Linux-Setup Digest #330, Volume #19 Sat, 5 Aug 00 15:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Dual boot ("RS")
Re: Dual boot (The Contact)
Multiple screens (Nicolas Rinaudo)
Re: USR 56K (id 5685) does not respont to init string (Michael Prowell)
[PROXY-SUITE] ftp-proxy problem ("Michel Emming")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Jonathan Thornburg)
Re: FTP Problem with 7.1 (Scott Weber)
Re: 3com 3c509b driver (chipper)
Linux cd drivers (Chris H)
Re: exceed client for linux ("Kai Uwe Schmidt")
Re: Camera Application software run on Linux PC (Edsko de Vries)
Kingston EtheRx VP 10/100 ethernet with RH 6.2 problem? (William Lee)
Re: Will do almost anything for help (Gary Basin)
new to linux :kernal error...not syncing (party offive)
Re: Partiton Problem ("Julio C. Rincon")
Re: Kingston EtheRx VP 10/100 ethernet with RH 6.2 problem? ("poepping")
Re: How to change the permissions on a readonly mounted filesystem? (Bartek
Kostrzewa)
Re: X monitor settings durring installation ("Jack Kessler")
Re: Win NT + Linux in a 20GB HD ("Julio C. Rincon")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
Re: The Rage Fury Xpert2000 is not yet supported with Red Hat 6.2, ("Jack Kessler")
Getting a Boot Floppy ("Terry Smerling")
Re: The Rage Fury Xpert2000 is not yet supported with Red Hat 6.2, ("Jack Kessler")
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From: "RS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual boot
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 14:16:05 GMT
I am going to attempt to install win98 and linux red hat 6.2 on a 8.4 WD
HDD. I have split the WD and made 2 partitions. If I let linux go into the
MBR..... If i decide I don't want a dual boot then is it easy to get LILO
out of the mbr? what actions would have to be taken to remove it? Thanks for
your time in advance, boiski
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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 14:18:30 GMT
RS wrote:
>
> I am going to attempt to install win98 and linux red hat 6.2 on a 8.4 WD
> HDD. I have split the WD and made 2 partitions. If I let linux go into the
> MBR..... If i decide I don't want a dual boot then is it easy to get LILO
> out of the mbr? what actions would have to be taken to remove it? Thanks for
> your time in advance, boiski
Under DOS (or Windows):
fdisk /mbr
This resets the mbr and thus removes LILO.
--
The Contact
"Information is everywhere.
You just need to know where to find it..."
[- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -]
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From: Nicolas Rinaudo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Multiple screens
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 16:30:01 +0200
Okay, I've spent the afternoon trying to get my multi screen setup to
work, but it just will not.
Individually, each of my video cards and screens are working just
fine. Whenever I try to boot with the two of them enabled tho,
everything locks up (no keyboard, no mouse, ...) and I can see a
beautifull dump of my last screen.
I've installed Enlightenment 'xinerama aware', and always start x with
startx -- +xinerama, and configured my XF86Config in the proper
fashion. Anybody knows what's going wrong? Is there some kind of
conflict between GeForce and Matrox Millenium2? Or is that line wrong:
Screen "Screen0"
Screen "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
?
If anybody has any insights, I'd really like to hear from you.
Nicolas Rinaudo
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From: Michael Prowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USR 56K (id 5685) does not respont to init string
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:02:16 GMT
Rob Clark wrote:
> If you need to use COM3 for the modem because you already have COM1 &
> COM2, you can
> allocate another IRQ (e.g. 5) if you don't have a sound card on IRQ 5.
>
> Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks - that took care of it.
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From: "Michel Emming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [PROXY-SUITE] ftp-proxy problem
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:22:15 +0200
Hello everyone,
I have problems getting the ftp-proxy V 1.5 started.
DestinationPort 21
DestinationTransferMode client
Group nogroup
Listen 192.168.1.20/192.168.1.200
PidFile /var/run/ftp-proxy.pid
Port 1021
ServerRoot /var/ftp-proxy/rundir
# (Here I get an error: TECH-ERR can't chroot to /var/ftp-proxy/rundir)
Well, that's right it's running as ftpproxy and not as root
ServerType standalone
TimeOut 900
User ftpproxy
ValidCommands ABOR,PASS,PASV,STOR,USER,MODE,QUIT,SYST
As Client I use WS-FTP Pro V6.01.
Here I enabled the firewall with the server as a host (192.168.1.2, Port
1021)
Whicht FirewallType should I take?
Any hints?
Michel.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Thornburg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 5 Aug 2000 17:35:58 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[[referring to Red Hat]]
>what difference does it make? At the end of the day,
>they're selling boxed sets containing a few CD's and a manual.
>Microsoft is selling boxed sets containing a few CD's and a manual.
>The difference is that Red Hat allows copying of said CD's and
>Microsoft doesn't.
I responded
| And that Red Hat allows you to use the same boxed set for more than
| one machine. (This makes a *big* difference in the cost when you have
| a network of N machines.)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, blowfish <..> commented
>The arguement of costs is not important at all.
>
>At least for any real businesses.
>
>You see. Business software is part of the business expenses, so, they're
>tax deductable.
As is business hardware, and you'll notice the computer hardware market
is rather price-sensitive!
Tax laws vary from one country to another, but in the ones I'm familiar
with, 100% of business expenses are tax deductible, and typical marginal
corporate tax rates are around 50%, so the public at large ends up paying
50% of the cost (as a tax deduction from govt revenue), and the business
ends up paying the other 50% of the cost. 50% of the cost difference
between (say) a fully loaded-up Microsoft Windows 2000, and Red Hat
GNU/Linux, multiplied by the number of computers in a large corporation,
is a rather substantial chunk of cash.
That said, the cost advantages of free software are even more dramatic
for small users. Having worked around a number of small businesses as
both employee and contractor, I can assure you that tight cash-flow
positions are _very_ common, so the difference between
(a) cheap PC + free software, and
(b) cheap PC + Microsoft software,
matters a lot.
>It only matters to the free beer drunken college geeks who zero real
>income, and too much free time on his/her hands.
To switch every university-owned PC in the building in which I'm sitting,
from Red Hat GNU/Linux to (say) Microsoft Windows 2000, would cost
considerably more than our annual computer hardware budget.
You might also consider non-profit organizations, and those in countries
less wealthy than your own, for whom $200 for software may be a _huge_
cost.
--
-- Jonathan Thornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.thp.univie.ac.at/~jthorn/home.html
Universitaet Wien (Vienna, Austria) / Institut fuer Theoretische Physik
Q: Only 5 countries have the death penalty for children. Which are they?
A: Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, United States
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From: Scott Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: FTP Problem with 7.1
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:45:35 GMT
Closer. But not quiet yet...
I installed Bero on both slackware machines, and almost everything
is working.
I can ftp from Windows to either machine.
I can ftp from the old slackware 3.5 to 7.1
I CANNOT ftp to the older slackware 3.5 box. Same problem.
It says connected, but never shows the splash message.
Then it times out.
It MAY have something to do with the FTPACCESS file, but
I can't find out what "their" interpretation of an "addrglob" is.
I've fed it
192.168.2.0
192.168.2.
0.0.0.0
*
*.*.*.*
etc...
It doesn't seem to make any difference.
Can anybody contribute, or point me in the right direction
-Scott
Phillip Kimble wrote:
>
> Scott,
> To start off with, do yourself a favor and get rid of wu-ftpd and grab
> BeroFTPD! It is much easier to set up and includes a small script to check
> for missing links and security violations! wu-ftpd is full of holes and has
> several patches out that need to be added to prevent attacks!
>
> > I just installed 7.1.
> >
> > I already have running: NT, '95, Slackware 3.5. All on a single
> > hub, all in a 192.168.2.x network.
> >
> > From 7.1, I type FTP <3.5 box>... it says connected, then it hangs
> > CTRL-C doesn't even do anything.
> > From WIN NT, I FTP to <3.5 box>, everything is fine.
> >
> > From WIN NT I ftp to <7.1 box>, it hangs until timeout.
> >
> > In _ALL_ cases, ftp says "Connected to blah-blah" but stops there,
> > and doesn't show the splash screen.
> >
> > In short, I can't FTP into or out of the new box., but it does say
> > that connections are made.
> >
> > The ..log/messages file just shows me:
> > FTP Connection from 192.168.2.1...
> > Timeout on 192.168.2.1 Dropped...
> > (i.e. It doesn't actually show me anything useful)
> >
> > Yes, I can telnet in/out, ping, and samba is working.
> >
> > I am finding this rather annoying. Can ANYONE shed some light
> > on this?
> >
> > -Scott Weber
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (chipper)
Subject: Re: 3com 3c509b driver
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:49:33 GMT
Thanks for the info
I'll try that!!!
On Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:20:24 +0100, "Stuart Nuttall"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Compile the kernel?? Boy I have a lot to learn :)
>
>Yup you have!
>
>I've installed RedHat 6.0 and 6.2 on both 509b and 509c cards. I seem to
>remember having teething troubles with 6.0, but 6.2 worked like a dream -
>probably only because of a later kernel. If you have 6.0 you could get the
>latest kernel (2.2.16) and customise to support only the card you have (they
>are referred to as 3com 509x I think). Should work like a dream after that!
>
>
>Stu
>
>
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From: Chris H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux cd drivers
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:44:19 GMT
Hello everybody,
I'm looking for a cdrom driver for a MKE (panasonic) Model: CR-563-B.
I've looked at linhardware.com and panasonic's website and have found
nothing. Is there an alternative driver that can be used? Or a way to
copy the install program onto diskettes? I start a Linux admin class in
a couple of weeks and would really like to get this setup.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Kai Uwe Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: exceed client for linux
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 17:57:05 +0100
"sylvain hutchison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi, I need to find out if any of you know how what the command line is
> for setting up an exceed client for linux is!!
> Instead of operating on a Solaris server, I need to operate on a linux
> server.
> I have absolutely no idea, and I have to get this done as soon as
> possible. My start method is REXEC (TCP/IP), and the program type is X
> Windows, dunno if that helps. Thank you for any help, I gladly
> appreciate it!!!
>
> Sly.
>
When you want to run some X-Software on another UNIX machine, you shouldn't
have any problems. Try starting up X on your client. Open a xterm and enter
the following line:
xhost +<fully qualified domain name of the server>
This enables the server to connect to the client.
Now switch to the server (e.g. using ssh or telnet). There you have to type
<name of the program> -display <ip of the client>:0.0
Now your program should start on your client machine. Remember: X is a
network-transparent architecture!
Hope to have helped you.
Kai Uwe
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From: Edsko de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.dev.c-programming
Subject: Re: Camera Application software run on Linux PC
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:00:39 +0200
sllai wrote:
>
> I would like to know whether currently their is application software that
> can make use of the PC camera (either uing USB or serial port) in Linux
> system.
> It is like conduct a video conference using the PC camera and both PC is
> running he Linux OS.
>
> Any idea or info on this is highly appreciated
> sllai
I personally use "vic" ("The MBONE VIdeo Conferencing tool"); it
supports several video standards, and multiple connections...
Look for "video conferencing Linux" in altavista, you'll probably run
into it. Try to find a binary (I didn't manage to compile the source
code - a lot of C errors (after I solved a bunch of 'em I gave up...)
and even some missing files - maybe I had an incorrect package, dunno).
The binary is easier anyway.
Edsko
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From: William Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Kingston EtheRx VP 10/100 ethernet with RH 6.2 problem?
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 09:29:07 -0700
I can't seem to get my Kingston EtheRx VP 10/100 ethnet card to work
with my RH 6.2 distribution. It seems like the autoprobe doesn't work
too well when the machine first started up. I tried running the network
script in the /etc/rc.d/... directory (I forgot exactly) and run the
"S10network start" (or something like that) and it seems like it fails
to recognize my eth0. What can be wrong?
Thanks in advance.
Will
PS: the kingston card is the one that comes with PacBell ADSL modem, it
used to work in RH 6.0 but not in 6.2. Is the tulip.o any difference?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Basin)
Date: 05 Aug 2000 16:36:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Will do almost anything for help
the problem is that I was gonna try this (or something similar) and I didn't
have a system disk laying around anywhere so I put it any old disk (thinking
that if it gave an error that the disk isnt a valid system disk than im fine)
but it never checked the floppy drive or anything like that, I guess i'll try
it though
- Gary Basin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (party offive)
Subject: new to linux :kernal error...not syncing
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:45:02 -0400 (EDT)
I am new to Linux. I partioned using partion magic. I have windows
installed. I added
linux. (have boot magic installed) Upon booting
(first boot after installation) LILO starts, a page
full of stuff appears then the warning: Kernel
Panic: attempted to kill the idle task! In swapper task ----not
syncing. What's wrong?
Is linux salvagable? How do I uninstall if I need to? thank you if
anyone could possibly help
paul
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From: "Julio C. Rincon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Partiton Problem
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:37:36 GMT
I was using Partition Magic 3.xx and couldn't setup Linux logical
partitions. I upgraded the software from their website to version 5.0
and easily setup my Linux logical partitions. I'm not sure this will
help you but the latest version of the software appears to handle
non-windows partitions better then the old version.
Julio.
Martin Racette wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I've installed Mandrake 7.1, and since I
> let it create it's own partitions
> instead of creating them with Partition
> Magic, I have a problem with the other
> partition on that same disk. I can't
> access them with Partition Magic, nor
> with OS/2's FDISK.
>
> The error message I have with Partition
> Magic is as follow:
>
> "This error occurs under some operating
> systems when logical partitions are not
> chained together in the expected order.
> DOS, OS/2, Windows 95, Windows 98, and
> Windows NT require that logical
> partitions be chained together in
> ascending order. Some other operating
> systems do not require this. For
> example, some versions of the Linux
> FDISK utility chain logical partitions
> together in the order they are created.
> This error message identifies a very
> dangerous situation; using the DOS FDISK
> in this situation can cause loss of one
> or more partitions. "
>
> I need to resize some of the partitions
> that are access with OS/2, and WIN98
>
> If you have any advise how to correct
> this I would appreciate
>
> //-------------------------
> Thank you in advance
>
> Merci a l'avance
>
> Martin
>
> ICQ #48552954
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From: "poepping" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kingston EtheRx VP 10/100 ethernet with RH 6.2 problem?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 17:38:41 GMT
I had problems with my kingston card being found on any linux distro, works in solaris
though.
To fix it, I just download the DOS software for the card, found out what the DMA and IO
were for the card, and then plugged those into the module options. Then it worked
fine.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, William Lee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can't seem to get my Kingston EtheRx VP 10/100 ethnet card to work
> with my RH 6.2 distribution. It seems like the autoprobe doesn't work
> too well when the machine first started up. I tried running the network
> script in the /etc/rc.d/... directory (I forgot exactly) and run the
> "S10network start" (or something like that) and it seems like it fails
> to recognize my eth0. What can be wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Will
>
> PS: the kingston card is the one that comes with PacBell ADSL modem, it
> used to work in RH 6.0 but not in 6.2. Is the tulip.o any difference?
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Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 19:54:01 +0200
From: Bartek Kostrzewa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: How to change the permissions on a readonly mounted filesystem?
Ted Sariyski wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I messed with /etc/fstab and instead of /dev/sda1 I typed /dev/hda1. Now
> at boot time the system is trying to mount /dev/hda1 that doesn't exist.
> After typing the root password I am logged in a recovery mode where the
> root filesystem is mounted as readonly and I cannot edit /etc/fstab. How
> can I change the mode to rw?
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Ted
mount -o remount -w /
--
Bartek kostrzewa - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<< http://technoage.web.lu >>>
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From: "Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X monitor settings durring installation
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:16:27 -0700
Is Xconfigurator the same thing as /bin/xconf?
MaryP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > My monitor is not
> > specifically supported so a friend told me to use generic, which would
be
> > obvious. But when it does the tests and probes for X it screws up the
> > display and fails.
>
> Try posting the make and model of your monitor, maybe someone else has the
> same kind.
>
> My monitor was unlisted, just like yours. The probe failed for my monitor
> as well.
>
> So I started with the lowest possible settings. They worked but not
> properly (the picture was too large for the screen). Then I went up by
> little increments until I got an acceptable display.
>
> Xconfigurator is the program I used to change the settings by increments.
> I messed it up a whole bunch of times before I got it working right
> though.
>
> Mary P.
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From: "Julio C. Rincon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win NT + Linux in a 20GB HD
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:27:41 GMT
I'm new to this multi-boot situation, but here is what I have on my 15.3G
harddrive so far:
Partition Description
Dos/Win98 I setup a FAT partition of 1.5g using the DOS fdisk program
and first installed DOS and then installed Win98.
Afterwards I installed
Partition Magic 5.0. With PM I setup the remaining
partitions.
Spare This partitions is currently unnamed may use in the future
for
boot mgr and is only 10MB.
The following are logical partitions in an Extended Partition:
===================================================================
NT-Office This partition is for WinNT and the MS Office Pro suite.
This partition is 2G and was setup as a FAT format. I
booted the pc
to the DOS c:\ prompt and did the NT install to put the
boot files
to this partition. NT then changed the format to NTSF.
NT-Apps This partition is for WinNT and pc programming languages (3G).
I booted the pc to Win98 and in PM I copied the NT-Office
partition
to the NT-Apps partition. The partition was original
setup as 2G but
with PM I was able to resize it to 3G. Then back in Win98
I edited
the "Boot.ini" file to list the new partition.
NT-Web This partition is for WinNT and web programming languages (3G).
I repeated the steps for setting up the NT-Office
partition (the PM
copy feature did not work here, NT would not boot, I think
the
problem was that you had to replace the word "multi" with
"scsi"
in the "Boot.ini" file). After the setup was finished in
Win98 I
resized the partition to 3G.
I am using the Windows NT loader and I can boot to the following: DOS, Win 98 and
to the three different version of WinNT. Now I trying to figure out how to setup
Linux in the remaining space in the extended partition. Also with PM I pretty
sure you can setup your NT partition to be > 8G.
Hopes this helps.
Julio.
"Lawrence C. W. Tai" wrote:
> Kai Uwe Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > Yes, there's a way. I'm running Windows95, Windows NT 4.0 and SuSE Linux 6.3
> > on a 10GB HD (although my system just sees 8 GB), so why shouldn't it work
> > with a 20GB HD?
> > First you should install Windows NT 4.0. A little partition (around 500-750
> > MB) just for the \WINNT directory should be enough. Then boot up Linux and
> > create a little /boot partition (8 MB). This partition should be ENTIRELY
> > under the 1024. cylinder of your hard disk. Now create - running Windows NT
> > 4.0 - a partition where you want to store your Windows NT 4.0 software (e.g.
> > Visual C++). The rest sould be taken for / under Linux.
> > Boot strategy: DO NOT install Lilo into the MBR! It won't work! Install into
> > your /boot partition. Then you have to take out the lilo code of the first
> > 512 bytes of your /boot partition. This is done by the following line: "dd
> > if=/dev/<your /boot partition> bs=512 count=1 of=/bootsect.lin" Now copy the
> > file /bootsect.lin to your Windows NT 4.0 startup drive (e.g. via a floppy,
> > to a NTFS partition shouldn't be written via Linux). Boot up Windows NT 4.0
> > and modify the file boot.ini on your Windows NT 4.0 startup drive.
> > Attention: This file is write-protected and hidden. Append the following
> > line: "<letter of your Windows NT 4.0 startup drive>\bootsect.lin=SuSE Linux
> > 6.3"
> > Reboot and your Windows NT 4.0 boot menu should have a new line called "SuSE
> > Linux 6.3" which boots up your Linux system.
> > Complicated, isn't it? But be careful! Danger of data loss! And: No
> > warranty, but my system works really fine!
> >
> > Kai Uwe
>
> Thank you for your suggestions. I have tried but it failed. I have
> another way to solve and want to share my experience.
>
> Four partitions were created by using fdisk in RedHat 6.2. hda1 (4GB)
> was FAT16 but unformatted; hda2 (16MB) => /boot; hda3 (~15GB) => /; and
> hda4 => swap (125MB).
>
> Linux was installed first in the last partitions. lilo was installed in
> MBR without problem. Then hda1 was formatted by MSDos 6.22 to FAT16 with
> system file (don't use Win98 because NT can't be installed). After
> reboot, the computer booted to Linux. The lilo.conf was modified by
> adding:
> other=/dev/hda1
> table=/dev/hda
> label=NT
>
> Unfortunately, you can't boot into dos although you selected 'NT'. But,
> forget it. The NT was installed from booting the NT CD-ROM. FAT16 was
> then converted to NTFS. After the first stage of installation, the
> computer was reboot. Again, it went to Linux. Many 00 01 or LI was
> displayed if you selected 'NT', because (I think) the boot image didn't
> match to the lilo.conf. Run lilo again to take the new boot information
> in hda1. Then reboot, you can boot into NT's OS loader by selecting
> 'NT'. Great! It works!!
>
> Other problems:
> 1) I can't make a partition for NT >4GB, (say 8GB, I've tried).
> 2) When I made another FAT16 partition, NT won't be installed and it
> warned that the partition was damaged although these are under 1024 cyl.
>
> Lawrence Tai.
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 05 Aug 2000 14:51:29 -0400
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
> > And that Red Hat allows you to use the same boxed set for more than
> > one machine. (This makes a *big* difference in the cost when you have
> > a network of N machines.)
> >
>
> The arguement of costs is not important at all.
>
> At least for any real businesses.
>
> You see. Business software is part of the business expenses, so, they're
> tax deductable.
Tax deductable does not mean tax credit. If a business pays tax at a
marginal rate of 30%, then even if this is true they still pay 70% of
the cost. But I suspect that this is fanciful anyway.
--
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton
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From: "Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Rage Fury Xpert2000 is not yet supported with Red Hat 6.2,
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:45:58 -0700
No it means you should upgrade to their even hotter model, the Annoyance
Irritation Newbie 1989
Maybe it's called the Rage Fury because that's what you'll be feeling after
trying to use it, and Xpert because you'll have to be to get it to work?
Dave Stacey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Does this mean there is no point in installing Linux?
>
>
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From: "Terry Smerling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Getting a Boot Floppy
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:51:20 GMT
Anyone know of an easy way to either obtain or create a boot floppy for
Linux?
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From: "Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Rage Fury Xpert2000 is not yet supported with Red Hat 6.2,
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 11:57:08 -0700
I just saw on the ATI website that they're also coming out with an even
higher-end model, the user-friendly Jock Itch XL12. I am going to wait in
the parking lot for CompUSA to open so I caqn be the first to get one.
Jack Kessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8mhnc0$vvh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> No it means you should upgrade to their even hotter model, the Annoyance
> Irritation Newbie 1989
>
> Maybe it's called the Rage Fury because that's what you'll be feeling
after
> trying to use it, and Xpert because you'll have to be to get it to work?
>
> Dave Stacey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9rqi5.2083$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Does this mean there is no point in installing Linux?
> >
> >
>
>
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