Linux-Setup Digest #332, Volume #19               Sat, 5 Aug 00 21:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 Installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: newbie: Caldera won't install from ATAPI CDR ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Lee Hollaar)
  Unresolved symbols in filesystem modules  (Rob McMillin)
  Re: Using KPPP as a user (Scott Prigan)
  Re: Two USB radios possible on 1 computer? (Jan Johansson)
  Modem doesn't work (and it's not a WinModem) ("Kristofor Wiklund")
  Re: Why does lp.0 module show "not used" with lsmod? (Paul Kimoto)
  how to restrict users to their respective home directories ?? ("nilesh bhala")
  DHCP works for a while then stops ... (Alex Tchhailo)
  Re: Why does lp.0 module show "not used" with lsmod? (Albert Wagner)
  Re: Modem doesn't work (and it's not a WinModem) (Rob Clark)
  Re: DHCP works for a while then stops ... (Bit Twister)
  Re: how to restrict users to their respective home directories ?? (Adam Smith)
  Re: Getting a Boot Floppy (Bit Twister)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 Installation
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:55:34 GMT

I'm having trouble creating a dual boot system....

I can get linux to install but only by having it take over the hard
drive. If I use partition magic and try to install from the cdrom,
durring the boot it skips the cdrom installation and freezes on NFS. I
dont know what I'm doing wrong... can anyone help me?

System Specs:
Cyrix M2 300
Epox-MVP3C MotherBoard
96 megs of RAM
2.5 gig HD
STB Velocity 128 Video Card
Sound Blaster 16 ISA
Generic CDROM


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: newbie: Caldera won't install from ATAPI CDR
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 21:01:21 GMT

I am having the exact same problem.... it's like the cd is is only
reading durring the boot and doesnt exist later


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Hollaar)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 5 Aug 2000 21:21:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(phil hunt) writes:
>But I could make a house that's an exact copy of 10 downing street, and
>sell that!

But not in the United States, for a house that was designed after
December 1, 1990, when the Copyright Act was amended to include
"architectural works."

    An "architectural work" is the design of a building as embodied
    in any tangible medium of expression, including a building,
    architectural plans, or drawings.  The work includes the overall
    form as well as the arrangement and composition of spaces and
    elements in the design, but does not include individual standard
    features.
17 USC 101.

When you construct the building, you are reproducing the architectural
plans and infringing their copyright.  But you can modify the building
without infringing the right to make derivative works because of the
special rule in 17 USC 120(b), and can make pictures of the building
if it is ordinarily visable by the public under 17 USC 120(a).

You can build a house that is an exact copy of the White House, but
that's because it was constructed before the amendment to the Copyright
Act.

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From: Rob McMillin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unresolved symbols in filesystem modules 
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:06:05 -0700

For the purposes of this message, I'm running RedHat 6.2 with the
2.2.16-3 kernel source RPM.

I built the kernel the usual way:

    make xconfig
    make clean
    make dep
    make bzImage
    rm /lib/modules/2.2.16-3
    make modules
    make modules_install
    lilo

and rebooted. The kernel boots okay EXCEPT that depmod gives me errors
for a bunch of filesystem modules:

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Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/fs/lockd.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/fs/coda.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/fs/nfs.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/fs/nfsd.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/fs/smbfs.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/fs/ncpfs.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/ppp.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/shaper.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/slip.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/strip.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/bonding.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/wavelan.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/eql.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/sbni.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy rc.sysinit: Finding module dependencies succeeded
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/ipv4/ipip.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/ipv4/ip_gre.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/ipv4/rarp.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/ipv4/ip_masq_portfw.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/ipv4/ip_masq_mfw.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/ipv4/ip_masq_user.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/video/mdacon.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/agpgart.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/appletalk.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/generic_serial.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/lp.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/nvram.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/parport.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/parport_pc.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/rio.o
Aug  5 11:52:34 raggy depmod: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/misc/sunrpc.o

=====

Any idea why this happens? What can I do to correct it?

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From: Scott Prigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using KPPP as a user
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:04:04 -0400

UPDATE:
Scott Prigan wrote:

> I have been having this problem also.  Initially I could use kppp as non-root,
> and it demanded root password, after which kppp would come up and proceed ok.
> ....
>
> Then it did same, but after I supply root pw, it just vanishes.

I noticed that if I do not properly enter root pw, this prompt re-appears? Is this
a clue as to when process forks?

>
>
> I then tried "ifup ppp0" -- it doens't find it for non-root, and the only way I
> can get ppp going is via  "ifup ppp0" as root, then switching to a different
> user in a different terminal.

/sbin/ifup ppp0  works (That's where ifup script is...NOT /usr/sbin/ifup ppp0). The
reason simply ifup ppp0 didn't work is because /sbin is not in user's default
path?!


>
>
> I have tried all kinds of things with permissions and suids for consolehelper /
> kppp  ....
>
> ????
>
> Any answers will be appreciated.  I'm about ready to do the "Windows-style
> cure" (re-install)
>
> Scott
>
> David Stackis wrote:
>
> > I have RedHat 6.2...I love it and all, except for the fact that I cannot
> > access KPPP as a regular user.
> >
> > This is a workstation at home running KDE as my windows manager. Every time
> > I try to access KPPP as a user, I get prompted for the roots
> > password....funny thing is, is that the root password does not work to open
> > KPPP either. The only way I can get to KPPP is to be logged in as root.
> >
> > How can I correct this?
> >
> > Cheers!
> > TIA!
> > David Stackis
> > http://www.stackis.com
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From: Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Two USB radios possible on 1 computer?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 22:14:30 GMT

>Will linux be able to help me?  Thanks.

Naw., not really (or atleast not yet)

1. USB is very underdeveloped
2. Even when usb gets support, you will still have to write a driver
for the USB device in question
3. Linux doesnt handle >2Gbyte (2.4 kernels does tho)

But part from that, you could do what you wish to do.

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From: "Kristofor Wiklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Modem doesn't work (and it's not a WinModem)
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 22:57:53 GMT

    I've just installed Slackware 7.0 on my new computer.  I have found that
my modem does not respond under Linux, but it does under Windows.  As I have
stated it is not a WinModem.  It is 3Com 56K modem that I have used on my
old computer.  On my old computer the modem worked fine under Linux and
Windows.  Any ideas what the problem could be?



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Why does lp.0 module show "not used" with lsmod?
Date: 5 Aug 2000 19:15:34 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Albert Wagner wrote:
> I have thrashed thru lsmod, insmod, etc., trying to get my printer to
> work.  It worked right after I first used insmod for parport.o,
> parport_probe, and lp.0.  But it doesn't work after reboot.  Why does lp
> below show unused?  How do I get it "used"?
>
> $ lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> parport_probe           2980   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> lp                      4476   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> parport                 7124   0  (autoclean) [parport_probe lp]

"Unused" just means that nothing in the kernel is currently using lp or
parport*, and so these modules can be safely removed.  (Actually, the
parport module is needed by the parport_probe and lp modules, so they would
have to be removed first.)  They would be "used" when sending data to the
printer.

(Aside: A long time ago I had such trouble getting the parport* stuff to
work as modules that now I always build them into the kernel, although I
have no trouble with lp.o as a module.  I don't know whether anyone else is
having this sort of problem these days.)

-- 
Paul Kimoto
Disclaimer: Other than explicit citations of URLs, hyperlinks appearing
in this article have been inserted without the permission of the author.

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From: "nilesh bhala" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: how to restrict users to their respective home directories ??
Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 05:20:19 +0530

hello !
i am using RedHat linux 6.1 in my office & i have some user accounts created
on my system with their respective home directories in /home directory.
whenever user logs in to his account , he lands into his home
directory..that's o.k. but what's bad is that after that he is able to
change directory and can go upto root (/) level that he is able to see all
other folders other than his home one.i want to restrict user's to their
respective home folders, how can i do that ?? users should not be able to
browse outside their respective home directories ??
thank's.
regards---nilesh bhala





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From: Alex Tchhailo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DHCP works for a while then stops ...
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 00:13:01 GMT

Hi
I've asked this question before but did not get a clear answer, so I try
again.
Living in Calgary (of province Alberta in Canada) I signed up for show
cable service form "shaw@home".  My NIC is detected (RealTek 8139). So I
installed DHCPCD. /etc/resolv.conf is linked to /etc/dhcpc/resolv.conf.
With the right information in it (two DNS adresses and domain name). I'm
using Debian Linux, so DHCPCD installs without having to be configured
(or so it says). One theory proposed to me was that lease time expires
for me, so I should use static IP addresses, just edit my
/etc/netork/interfaces for eth0. But I would really like to get DHCPCD
to work. So my theory is when I configured kernel (2.2.17) one of the
options set off to yes by me in netwoking confilicts with DHCP. I'm
thinking it can be Firewalling or Masqurading or something else I really
don't know. The thing is that DHCP in my Windows98 works, so there is no
way Linux's DHCP can not be fixed. If you need more info on my kernel
configuration I'll provide I just don't know what you need. Since I'm
new to linux be as specific as possible, general phrases will not help
and I don't have netcfg and linconf, Debian does not use that stuff.

thanks Alex.


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From: Albert Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why does lp.0 module show "not used" with lsmod?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 19:23:10 -0600

Paul Kimoto wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Albert Wagner wrote:
> > I have thrashed thru lsmod, insmod, etc., trying to get my printer to
> > work.  It worked right after I first used insmod for parport.o,
> > parport_probe, and lp.0.  But it doesn't work after reboot.  Why does lp
> > below show unused?  How do I get it "used"?
> >
> > $ lsmod
> > Module                  Size  Used by
> > parport_probe           2980   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> > lp                      4476   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> > parport                 7124   0  (autoclean) [parport_probe lp]
> 
> "Unused" just means that nothing in the kernel is currently using lp or
> parport*, and so these modules can be safely removed.  (Actually, the
> parport module is needed by the parport_probe and lp modules, so they would
> have to be removed first.)  They would be "used" when sending data to the
> printer.

Actually, lp is what I need.  I am trying to get my printer to work. 
But, it is not even being detected.

> 
> (Aside: A long time ago I had such trouble getting the parport* stuff to
> work as modules that now I always build them into the kernel, although I
> have no trouble with lp.o as a module.  I don't know whether anyone else is
> having this sort of problem these days.)
> 
> --
> Paul Kimoto
> Disclaimer: Other than explicit citations of URLs, hyperlinks appearing
> in this article have been inserted without the permission of the author.

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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Modem doesn't work (and it's not a WinModem)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Clark)
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 00:22:55 GMT

In article <RZ0j5.14269$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kristofor Wiklund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    I've just installed Slackware 7.0 on my new computer.  I have found that
>my modem does not respond under Linux, but it does under Windows.  As I have
>stated it is not a WinModem.  It is 3Com 56K modem that I have used on my
>old computer.  On my old computer the modem worked fine under Linux and
>Windows.  Any ideas what the problem could be?

No, we need some hints. 

ISA or PCI?
Jumpers or PnP?
/dev/ttyS?  IRQ?

Did you use the Slackware setup program to point /dev/modem at your modem?

Rob Clark, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: DHCP works for a while then stops ...
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 01:01:18 GMT

I have Mandarake Linux install, no compiles.
Running a firewall and masqurading.

To help narrow the field of possible problems;
1) lease expires
spin up your winbox on the cable modem, then click
Start  -> Run  winipcfg    then click MoreInfo
This should tell you when the dhcp lease will expire.

2) firewall
This built me a tight ipchain firewall rule set and allows dhcp.
   http://linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/firewall/index.html
I used DENY, hardcoded external addresses, logged everything.

As part of the instruction and if you read the script, it will
give suggestions as to where you install the firewall.

The dhcpc server just broadcasts a lease request and the values
returned are used by the ipup code to set the values, no configuration
required except for setting the ethx as dhcp.


On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 00:13:01 GMT, Alex Tchhailo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>I've asked this question before but did not get a clear answer, so I try
>again.
>Living in Calgary (of province Alberta in Canada) I signed up for show
>cable service form "shaw@home".  My NIC is detected (RealTek 8139). So I
>installed DHCPCD. /etc/resolv.conf is linked to /etc/dhcpc/resolv.conf.
>With the right information in it (two DNS adresses and domain name). I'm
>using Debian Linux, so DHCPCD installs without having to be configured
>(or so it says). One theory proposed to me was that lease time expires
>for me, so I should use static IP addresses, just edit my
>/etc/netork/interfaces for eth0. But I would really like to get DHCPCD
>to work. So my theory is when I configured kernel (2.2.17) one of the
>options set off to yes by me in netwoking confilicts with DHCP. I'm
>thinking it can be Firewalling or Masqurading or something else I really
>don't know. The thing is that DHCP in my Windows98 works, so there is no
>way Linux's DHCP can not be fixed. If you need more info on my kernel
>configuration I'll provide I just don't know what you need. Since I'm
>new to linux be as specific as possible, general phrases will not help
>and I don't have netcfg and linconf, Debian does not use that stuff.
>
>thanks Alex.
>


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From: Adam Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: how to restrict users to their respective home directories ??
Date: 6 Aug 2000 01:03:05 GMT

In comp.os.linux.help nilesh bhala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello !
> i am using RedHat linux 6.1 in my office & i have some user accounts created
> on my system with their respective home directories in /home directory.
> whenever user logs in to his account , he lands into his home
> directory..that's o.k. but what's bad is that after that he is able to
> change directory and can go upto root (/) level that he is able to see all
> other folders other than his home one.i want to restrict user's to their
> respective home folders, how can i do that ?? users should not be able to
> browse outside their respective home directories ??
> thank's.

The "chmod" command can be used to change permissions on files and
directories.  Read the man page ("man chmod") for details.

However, in most cases the default settings will be fine.  There's no
danger in allowing users to have read access to things outside their
home directory; in fact, they're going to _need_ to have access to a
lot of directories outside their home in order to use the software on
the system.

If you want your users to have private data, you can set their home
directories to be unreadable to other users, e.g., 

chmod o-rxw ~jerry

will make jerry's home directory inaccessible to anyone but himself
(and root, of course).  But in general, your users will need to have
read access to almost everything on the system if they're going to be
able to do anything useful.

-- 
Adam Smith
Boston University
Department of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering 

"In theory there's no difference between theory and practice, but in
practice there is."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: Getting a Boot Floppy
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 01:06:28 GMT

Kinda helps if you tell us your distro/release  (rh, slack, suse,..)

So for Mandrake 7.x and Redhat 6.x      mkbootdisk $(uname -r)
or
http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html

On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 18:51:20 GMT, Terry Smerling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    Anyone know of an easy way to either obtain or create a boot floppy for
>Linux?
>
>


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