Linux-Setup Digest #344, Volume #19               Mon, 7 Aug 00 16:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Cannot use xconfig or menuconfig ("P. U. Psilanimous")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  bind question ("Ed Kommeren")
  Re: Cannot use xconfig or menuconfig ("ne...")
  Re: Which distribution for file server? (Alex Alegado)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  reclaiming master boo block? (Peter Bismuti)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)

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From: "P. U. Psilanimous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Cannot use xconfig or menuconfig
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 19:17:26 GMT

I have installed RedHat 6.2 as a KDE workstation and now want to
configure ide-scsi emulation in the kernel.  When I cd to /usr/src/linux
and type "make xconfig" or "make menuconfig" I get  "No rule to make
xconfig (or menuconfig)".

I have installed Tcl and Tk but still get the same result.  I am, of
course, new at this so I am at a loss.

Can anyone help?

Thanks


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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 07 Aug 2000 15:32:52 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Zebee Johnstone wrote:

> > Which isn't what you said.  You said that the money went either to the
> > software company or the taxman.
> > 
> Gosh!
> 
> If you pay the money to the software company, and, as a result, you can
> pay less tax.
> Isn't that you still end up paying less?

Yes, but you still pay more than zero.

> > Clearly only half (at a marginal rate of 50%) goes to the taxman.
> > 
> Then, deduct the other half as business loss. Talk to your tax
> accountant/bean counter.

Well, not quite.  As a business expense, it has already been taken out
of your income.  You can't (legally) deduct it twice.

> Take Boeing as an example.  If they go the free software route, they can
> save millions in software costs, but they decided against it, because
> it's not practical for such a big international corp to switch
> everything, tens of thousands of employees in numourous countries, and,
> the trainning costs and time loss will far outcosted the cost saving in
> free software.

That's quite a different issue.
-- 
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

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From: "Ed Kommeren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bind question
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:28:58 +0200

I have compiled a DNS Server with Bind 8 on a Caldera e-business version.
Everything seems to work well on the host itself (0.0.0.0), but I can't get
the other workstations on the network to listen to the DNS-Server.
I can ping all of the other hosts as well, so there is a network connection.
And I configured the resolve.conf file on all of the hosts as well.
Is it because I don't have a direct internet connection yet?
This compiling is to prepare the network to host sites on the internet soon.
Can anybody tell me what I do wrong????

Thanks
Ed




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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot use xconfig or menuconfig
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 19:27:23 GMT

On Aug 7, 2000 at 19:17, P. U. Psilanimous eloquently wrote:

>I have installed RedHat 6.2 as a KDE workstation and now want to
>configure ide-scsi emulation in the kernel.  When I cd to /usr/src/linux
>and type "make xconfig" or "make menuconfig" I get  "No rule to make
>xconfig (or menuconfig)".
>
>I have installed Tcl and Tk but still get the same result.  I am, of
>course, new at this so I am at a loss.
It is pretty hard to to compile the kernel if you
have not installed the source.

-- 
Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
BOFH excuse #29:

It works the way the Wang did, what's the problem
  3:26pm  up 28 days, 18:31,  9 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.02, 0.00


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From: Alex Alegado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which distribution for file server?
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 19:30:06 GMT

Try the "Netmax FileServer" which is built on the Red Hat distro. Netmax 
provides a web GUI to configure the file and printer server functions. It 
supports both Mac and Window networking if you have either. The catch is 
that it is fairly closed and you can't hack around like you could in a 
regular Red Hat distro. You can buy their Firewall product which simply 
"unlocks" features already present and you can use your Netmax box for 
fileservice AND Cable Modem/DSL routing.

A little pricey tho': $80 or so for each module depending on where you buy 
it.


Staffan Emren wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > I'm setting up a file server at home, and this will basically be my first full out 
>install with Linux in this sort of setup
> > (I'm never installed Linux for a server before, only on my workstation for fun).
> 
> Welcome to the brave new world! Actually, it's not that much different
> from a workstation setup.
> 
> > The computer will be a P166MMX, 48MB RAM, 4MB ATI Video Card, 10 or 15GB Hard 
>Drive.
> 
> Enough for a "simple" server with only a few users attatched. However
> you should consider adding more RAM. The graphic card is not important,
> since you don't run graphics on a file server, unless your stuck with
> the M$ thing... :-)
> 
> > I was thinking about installing Mandrake 7.2 because I have experience installing 
>it.  However I know it comes with KDE loaded
> > by default.. is this a mistake? I've heard KDE is a memory pig, and I'm not sure 
>how it will do on 48MB of RAM.
> 
> X itself is a "memory pig", and whatever window manager you run will not
> change that. But it's as simple to avoid as not starting X (boot into
> runlevel 3, don't run startx).
> The most popular distribution for server use is Red Hat, although the
> NFS have been quite a pain in the ass since they switched fron nfsd to
> kernel nfs in 6.0 and upwards (I think this have to do with the kernel
> development however, and can not be blamed on Red Hat. Probably other
> distributions have the same problem). Since Mandrake is more or less a
> Red Hat with a little different "look and feel", I recomend you use it
> as you have dealt with it before.
> > 
> > ANy advice appreciated!
> 
> Hope the above was of some use. :-)
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Staffan Emren


--
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:40:16 -0700

Phillip Lord wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "blowfish" == blowfish  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   blowfish> Phillip Lord wrote:
> 
>   blowfish> Oh Boy!
> 
>   blowfish> From Penguin to world politics, economic and philosophy
>   blowfish> all in one thread... Woo Wee! :P
> 
>         Yeah sorry 'bout this. I have never been able to keep to one
> argument for long, before I go off rambling on politics. Its one of my
> vices.
> 
No, That alright. :-)

More interest this way. As tech stuff are dry and boring anyway.

It's nice to include the human factors in any discussion/debate.

>   blowfish> I've created a MONSTER thread here. :-0
> 
>   blowfish> Oil has been the major income for Indonesia for ages.
> 
>   blowfish> According to my friends in Indonesia (native people, not
>   blowfish> "foreigner.").  The situation is more complex than what
>   blowfish> you've described here.
> 
>         Always is.
> 
>   blowfish> Then, the natives in E. Timor got tired of being ruled by
>   blowfish> "outsider.", and tired of the Chinese-Indosians
>   blowfish> controlling much of the economy. They rebelled.
> 
>         I don't think that it was a question of rebellion. The
> Indonesia army invaded E.Timor. This would be about 28 years ago now,
> about 2 years after Suharto came to power in E.Timor. And funnily
> enough about 8 hours after Gerald Ford's plane left the tarmac on
> Jakarta, on the first official visit to Indonesia since Suharto.
> 
My Indonesian friend who told me the story is sixty some years old.  Her
family witnessed the whole thing.

Resources have always been a good reason to invade others.

China invaded others through out history, and China had been invaded by
the others through out history as well. That's why we had the warings
between the Grece, the Spatants, the Persians, the Macedonians...  The
Vikings vs the Dans...the Moss invades Europe in the 12th Century, then,
the revenge by the crusaders, WW1, WW2, Sino-Japanese War, the northern
Ireland and the Brits, Rhodesia- now South Africa, Mozambique, the
outer-Mongolia, the Bosnia mess, you name it... it's the same old
shits...

I guess the power trip thingy is very important to a lots of people
through out history.

Remember the attempted coup Chili in the '70s.? For copper.

Vietnam? Because of her rubber. The Chinese invaded Vietnam thousands of
years ago. .. The French, then the Japanese... Rubber was very important
to the war machines before the synthetic materials started replacing
natural rubber at low costs...

The European colonies in Africa, Latin America, Asia (China-the opium
war, etc). For gold, diamond, slaves, ivory, etc., etc.

There are lots of reasons why all these invasions are taken place. I
guess it's part of human nature, the greed factor, or some hugh power
ego trip.

>   blowfish> As far as the weapon goes. If the U.S., U.K. didn't sell
>   blowfish> the Indonesian military the weapon. I'm sure France and
>   blowfish> Brazil, or Cz would surely happy to fill the orders. It's
>   blowfish> not a moral issue to the weapon trade.  It's just another
>   blowfish> business contract.
> 
>         This is a facetious argument. I would not get far in a court
> if I tried "well okay so I mugged the guy but if I didn't someone else
> would". Nor do I hear this argument from the US government when the
> send in the marines to burn out the poppy fields of the peasant
> farmers of Central America.
> 
You won't get far in the court because you are just a "commoner" like me
and most others. :-)
Most in the arms trades have the blessing from their own government.

When you kill one person.  You are a murderer.

When you kill a million people. Especially "to protect" your national
interests.  You are than , a hero. A conqueror. :-)


>         To argue that the arms trade, or indeed most "business" is
> separate from politics, and worse still morality is something that I
> feel is profoundly wrong.
> 
Trades of any kind and politics always goes hand in hand.

Morality is entirly a seperate issue.

>         Phil

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: reclaiming master boo block?
Date: 7 Aug 2000 19:44:38 GMT


I tried installing win98 on a dos partition and overwrote
the MBR, I booted using a floppy and then ran lilo as root, but it
still wants to boot into win98. 

Is there any way of reclaiming it without reinstalling?

Thanks


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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:54:01 -0700

Robert Krawitz wrote:
> 
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > John Hasler wrote:
> > >
> > > blowfish writes:
> > > > Copyright does not interfers with free market.
> > >
> > > The express purpose of copyright is to suppress the free market in copies
> > > of copyrighted works.
> >
> > Here we go again!
> >
> > The express purpose of copyright is to keep the *FREE LOADERS* away. So,
> > the copyright owner can sell his/her work in the FREE MARKET, or allow
> > it to be used under their own FREE will.
> >
> > Kapish!
> 
> No, because the definition of a "free market" says nothing about "free
> loaders" one way or the other.
> 
Free market means just that: The Freedom to Trade with who ever and
whatever (within legal limits) you want.

It does not mean *MONEY FREE*.

> Everyone's a free loader to some extent, in that they use the
> infrastructure that exists.  People free load from the day they're
> born -- it couldn't be otherwise, a human infant cannot take care of
> itself.  We don't as individuals all have to go out and grow our own
> food, hunt our own meat, build our own tools to chop down our own
> trees to build our own houses.
> 
C'mon. You're on your twisty thinking again.

An infant can never be classify as a free-loader, because the infant
didn't asked to be born.
So. Whoever give birth to the infant have the responsibility and duty to
care for the infant until the infant can be on his/her own.

Even wild animals take care of their babies better than some human
parents.

No. You don't have to hunt animal for meat if you don't want to. But you
can do that too if you decided so.

You don't have to build tools to chop down trees to build your own
house, but you can do that too if you wanted to.

But you have to make money (that is, creating, working on something for
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) so you can have somebody else to do those work for
you.


> There are a lot of people who seem more concerned about people free
> loading than they are about simply living comfortably themselves.  I
> honestly believe that a lot of people would willingly reduce their own
> standard of living if only it would get rid of "free loaders".  That's
> the theory behind a lot of silly tax shelters: people would rather
> reduce their after-tax income if it means paying less taxes to begin
> with.
> 
I've no problem with living comfortably... but I do have problems with
free loaders, because their "free stuff" are partially supported by my
tax dollars. 

I don't mind to donate to causes that I believe in. But *NOT* to support
those damned free loaders.

They're just a bunch of parasites.
> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
> 
> Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
> 
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...

------------------------------

From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:56:17 -0700

phil hunt wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:16:22 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >phil hunt wrote:
> >> > No. You're incorrect.
> >> >
> >> >Copyright does not interfers with free market.  In fact, copy rights
> >> >support free market.  Because the copyrights owner can sell his/her work
> >> >any which ways s/he wants.
> >>
> >> Yes, and other people can't. So it isn't free. A free market implies lots
> >> of independent buyers asnd sellers. The *whole* point of copyright is to
> >> give someone an artificial monopoly in a good.
> >>
> >Yes. A free market implies lots of buyers and sellers.
> >
> >BUT.......
> >
> >It never implies that anybody can sell anything which they don't own, or
> >created, or have legal title to.
> >
> >That's why you cannot sell stolen property in Harrod's, or set up shop
> >on Union Street, or the Piccadily Square; or put up a booth right
> >outside of 10, Downing Street, in London.
> 
> But I could make a house that's an exact copy of 10 downing street, and
> sell that!
> 
No. You can't. At least not in the US.

> Assume copyright doesn't exist: Then if I, on media that I do own, make a
> copy of some information, then I am selling something I do own.
> 
Yes, you can sell as many copies, or give them away for free if you're
the creator of that thingy.

> --
> *****[ Phil Hunt ]*****
> ** The RIAA want to ban Napster -- so boycott the music industry!   **
> ** Don't buy CDs during August; see http://boycott-riaa.com/        **
> ** Spread the word: Put this message in your sig.                   **
> 
> 

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...

------------------------------

From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:07:48 -0700

Robert Krawitz wrote:
> 
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > phil hunt wrote:
> 
> > > Yes, and other people can't. So it isn't free. A free market implies lots
> > > of independent buyers asnd sellers. The *whole* point of copyright is to
> > > give someone an artificial monopoly in a good.
> > >
> > Yes. A free market implies lots of buyers and sellers.
> >
> > BUT.......
> >
> > It never implies that anybody can sell anything which they don't own, or
> > created, or have legal title to.
> 
> This is a circular argument, and not really relevant to what we're
> talking about anyway.
> 
No. I'm not. It's all those "everything must be free" folks are going
round and round in circles.

> As for the relevance part: just because a market is illegal doesn't
> make it not fit the definition of a free market.
> 
> The claim at hand is that copyright interferes with the workings of a
> truly free market by forbidding others from making copies and selling
> them (giving one person an artificial monopoly in the good).
> 
If you are not the owner/creator of that object. Then, you have no right
to sell, modify or do anything with it without the owner/creator's
permission. Period.

> A free market implies free dealing among informed, competitive buyers
> and sellers, with freedom to enter and exit the market.  A copyright
> distorts this by forbidding other potential sellers from joining the
> market.  Therefore, there cannot be a competitive market for, say,
> Microsoft Windows, because only one entity is allowed to sell it.
> Someone else cannot (legally) enter the market selling their own
> copies of it.  Nor can someone enter the market for variants of
> Windows, because copyright covers derived works as well as original
> works.
> 
Oh you know what!? GNU-GPL and Micro$oft are not the only things that
matter in this world.

GNU-GPL-Linux and M$ are *ONLY* important issue to mostly the college
geeks. 

Nobody cares about either in the normal, human world.

People will use whatever is popular and convinent.

> So the argument that copyright doesn't destroy the free market because
> those potential other sellers cannot enter the market because it's not
> legal is circular: it's the presence of copyright law in the first
> place that forbids it.
> 
Free loaders *destroy* the free market, Not the copyrights law.

> That isn't in and of itself saying that copyright is bad, or that it's
> good.  I am not a libertarian; I don't believe that free markets are
> an end unto themselves.  Free markets tend to have problems where
> there are external effects not accountable for in the market.  For
> example, someone entering the chemical business sets up a plant that
> pollutes the air.  The market for chemicals doesn't take this into
> account.
> 
> The idea behind copyright is that the absence of this restriction the
> price that can be charged for the good in question is low enough so
> that it discourages the creation of new works, and that greater
> creation of new works outweighs the loss in freedom and the higher
> prices paid by buyers.  The marginal cost of production of another
> copy of a book (much less an MP3) is tiny, so in the absence of
> copyright, the original creators of a song or program would never be
> able to recover their investment.
> 
> The latter is surely true.  I'm never going to recover my investment
> in gimp-print (time, ink cartridges, paper).  But on the other hand,
> money isn't what motivated me to do it; having it available to allow
> people (not least of whom is myself) to print under Linux/UNIX is.  I
> think copyright goes too far in the other direction and ignores the
> inherent creativity that lurks in many people.
> 
All I can say is: Take your arguement to a *real* business person, and
to court... ;-)

You geeks are totally twisted... foo.bar.clueless.life!
> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
> 
> Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
> 
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...

------------------------------

From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 13:09:46 -0700

Phillip Lord wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "blowfish" == blowfish  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>   blowfish> If you try to set up a booth right outside of 10, Downing
>   blowfish> Street to sell stolen property. I'm sure Tony will have a
>   blowfish> few choiced words with you, and have you escorted away by
>   blowfish> Bobbies. ;-)
> 
>         Well Tony already did this inside number 10. The racism and
> bigotry he stole from Thatcher, the complete absence of any real
> policies from Major. The "third way" rhetoric may not be stolen, but
> as he appears to have found up his ass, I am not sure that this is
> anything to boast about.
> 
Yeah, sure.  But ?who? put Tony in office? ;-)

Same here with Billy. ;-)

>         Phil

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...

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