Linux-Setup Digest #344, Volume #21 Thu, 31 May 01 21:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Monitor Shutdown Question (Butch Hinton)
Re: Monitor Shutdown Question (FlyingLow)
Re: Delaying eth0 initialization (Butch Hinton)
2GB File size limitation ("Justus")
Re: Monitor Shutdown Question (Juergen Heinzl)
Dial to ISP (George Trapkov)
Re: ADSL and linux ?? (Rod Smith)
Re: Postscript print netatalk samba (Rod Smith)
slooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!! ("Liverpool_fc")
Re: HELP PLEASE ("John E")
Re: slooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!! ("D. Stimits")
Re: slooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!! (Bob Martin)
Re: Red Hat 7.1 MultiBoot Problem (Michel Catudal)
Re: Dual booting and mp3 sharing (Dave Uhring)
Re: looking for a text base user interface programming editer for C (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: [Q] Redhat 7.1 and Sygate (Dean Thompson)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Butch Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monitor Shutdown Question
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:14:36 -0400
Hi All,
I recently installed Redhat 7.0 and have a question. What
file is it that tell the monitor when to shutdown? I want to
adjust the time as to when the monitor will shut off.
Thanks
Butch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: FlyingLow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Monitor Shutdown Question
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:27:10 -0500
I have the same problem with RH 7.0 and 7.1.
The Gnome control panel has an apm power management setting but it does
not seem to work.
I am still trying to figure it out myself.
Jeff Moore
Butch Hinton wrote:
> Hi All,
> I recently installed Redhat 7.0 and have a question. What
> file is it that tell the monitor when to shutdown? I want to
> adjust the time as to when the monitor will shut off.
>
> Thanks
> Butch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
------------------------------
From: Butch Hinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delaying eth0 initialization
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:27:51 -0400
Steve Martin wrote:
> Richard Young wrote:
> >
> > I have the same problem with RedHat 7.0. I have discovered that if I run
> > "insmod 3c509" after boot then startx and activate the module in netcfg then my
> > network works ok. My /etc/modules.conf looks like it has the correct enteries. But
> > it won't load the module at boot. Anybody have any ideas....Thanks....Rich
>
> Under 7.0/7.1, you should be able to build a file called /etc/rc.modules
> in which you can manually modprobe your modules, and it'll be run at
> startup from /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. Be sure to put execute permission
> on rc.modules.
I had the same problem when I installed Redhat 7.0 in two systems with 3c509 cards.
What I found out was in the modules.conf file if I put:
alias eth0 3c509
options 3c509 io=0x300 irq=10
I would get the delaying eth0 initialization
I kept playing and found out if I just put the line "alias eth0 3c509" and
dropped the options line, eth0 initializes every time I boot
------------------------------
From: "Justus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: 2GB File size limitation
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:34:41 -0400
I am running Redhat 6.2 with kernel 2.4.2 on a Dell Power Edge 6400 I am
using ext2 file system. Is there a way to remove the 2GB file size
limitation and how if so? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Justus
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Monitor Shutdown Question
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:34:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Butch Hinton wrote:
>Hi All,
>I recently installed Redhat 7.0 and have a question. What
>file is it that tell the monitor when to shutdown? I want to
>adjust the time as to when the monitor will shut off.
[-]
Can't tell whether RH does it via a configuration file,
still just typing ...
setterm
... and ...
xset
... is bound to reveal something.
I'd try a ...
find /etc -exec egrep -l "(setterm|xset)" {} \; 2>/dev/null
... then since /etc is the directory where most of the setup
related files reside.
Hope it can help a bit,
Juergen
--
\ Real name : Juergen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
------------------------------
From: George Trapkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dial to ISP
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:38:52 -0400
Hi
I setup my connection and I can dial and I go to Internet Setup. Where
can I put a shortcut or make it to dial into my ISP when I click on
Netscape?
Thanks
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: ADSL and linux ??
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:46:28 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sasan Iman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Rod Smith wrote:
>
>> 2) IP address assignment method. Many low-end DSL providers in the
>> United States now use PPPoE, which is what Roaring Penguin is for.
>> This usage is *NOT* universal, though, and I've no idea what's
>> prevalent outside the U.S. Some distributions now ship with PPPoE
>> support, but I don't know offhand if Red Hat 7.1 is one of these.
>> Aside from PPPoE, the most common methods are static IP addresses
>> and DHCP, both of which work just as if you were connecting to a
>> LAN. This will also be the case if you use an external broadband
>> router/firewall device.
>
> As far as I know, how your ethernet interface get's initialized (static
> IP, DHCP) is a separate issue from using PPPOE. I have
> Earthlink/Mindspring which is one of the largest ISPs and they use
> PPPOE. They also use DHCP since they keep static IPs for business
> accounts where they can charge more. As far as I can tell, PPPOE is used
> by most.
Any given ISP might conceivably use one, two, or all three of these IP
address assignment methods on different accounts, but they're largely
mutually exclusive. (There are ways to use PPPoE or DHCP to assign the
same IP address to a customer time after time, which is a sort of
pseudo-static configuration; and you CAN configure a static IP address
on a DHCP network, but that could cause problems if/when the DHCP
server assigns that address to another system.) Certainly it's not a
matter of running DHCP or conventional static IP address assignment
methods atop PPPoE. For any given account, an ISP will support
precisely one of those three methods (or possibly something else, like
PPPoA or some proprietary protocol). If an ISP supports more than one
method, it'll be on different accounts.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Postscript print netatalk samba
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:55:02 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Using these drivers I can print from RedHat and Win98 but not from the mac.
If Linux can print using PostScript-producing programs (like Netscape
and most others that can print using different fonts, graphics, etc.),
then the problem isn't with the Ghostscript configuration.
> Starting lpd I get this error:
> cant locate module char-major-180
I believe that's an unimportant error message. Certainly it is if the
thing prints.
> When I print from the mac i get this error:
> lp_init: lock: No such file or directory
> lp_open failed
I don't know offhand what printing system ships with RH 7.1, but if it's
LPRng, you can probably fix it by changing your papd.conf file contents.
Try something akin to this:
hp4000:\
:pr=|/usr/bin/lpr -Php4000:op=mac:\
:pd=/etc/atalk/ppds/hp4000-mac.ppd:
You'll need to make changes for your printer name, PPD filename, etc.
I've got a little more information on this at:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/network/network-netatalk.html
One other possibility: Netatalk doesn't get along well with PPD files
that use Mac-style end-of-line characters. If you've transferred your
PPD files from a Mac, you may need to convert them using a utility like
mac2unix, various text editors, etc.
If you still have problems, post the contents of your papd.conf file.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
------------------------------
From: "Liverpool_fc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: slooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:55:06 -0400
Reply-To: "Liverpool_fc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hello,
i got a rh6.2 box that boots and runs extremely slow at the console.
if i telnet into the box from a win98 client, it runs ok.
but netscape, control panel or any gui app launched through gnome takes
30 -60 minutes to start. on boot half way through it stops and freezes at
startting sendmail. well it appears to freeze. but if a few hours go by it
will eventually come up. i am able to ping it while it boots.
i tried "top". this does not tell me much.
thank you for any input.
------------------------------
From: "John E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:04:51 +1000
The linux installation disk (available at most newsagents and computer
stores) has an fdisk utitilty as part of setup. This will recognise linux
partitions. Change your BIOS to scan for a CD first, then run the linux
setup until you arrive at fdisk, select advanced users, delete the linux
partition(s), write to disk and then cntrl/alt/delete out of setup.
An alternative would be to use a third party utility like Partition Magic or
Paragon Partition Manager. A free demo of Paragon Partition Manager can be
downloaded from ZDnet:
http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/stories/info/0,10615,56682,00.html
Being a demo, you are limited in what you can do with paragon, but it does
allow you to delete partitions. With the linux partiton gone, you could
then use dos fdisk to tidy up your drive. If you have been messing around
with fdisk, you probably don't have an operating system on your drive, so
getting Paragons onto your hd might be a bit tricky. Or you could burin it
onto a cd and run it that way.
"TechSupport" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9f6aa8$abf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I started a new job, and the PC they gave me previously had linux
installed
> on it. when i format and FDISK, it doesn't show the linux partition at
all,
> but a 6 gig hard drive is still only showing 3 gig. can someone please
tell
> me how to remove the linux partition?
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Timothy Redus
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 18:15:42 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: slooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!
Liverpool_fc wrote:
>
> hello,
> i got a rh6.2 box that boots and runs extremely slow at the console.
> if i telnet into the box from a win98 client, it runs ok.
>
> but netscape, control panel or any gui app launched through gnome takes
> 30 -60 minutes to start. on boot half way through it stops and freezes at
> startting sendmail. well it appears to freeze. but if a few hours go by it
> will eventually come up. i am able to ping it while it boots.
>
> i tried "top". this does not tell me much.
> thank you for any input.
In the case of network applications, having a default route set up wrong
(or various other net setup issues) will cause this. I had one nasty
discovery when setting up a recent RH 7.1 box, that it had set up a
default route on eth0, which is only for 10.x.x.x internal networking,
whereas my DNS was pointed to machines through ppp0. Result: VERY slow
startup of netscape. Run ifconfig and see if there is a default route.
If that route should not really be default, run ifconfig to turn off
default, and try again.
D. Stimits, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: slooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:22:05 -0500
Liverpool_fc wrote:
>
> hello,
> i got a rh6.2 box that boots and runs extremely slow at the console.
> if i telnet into the box from a win98 client, it runs ok.
>
> but netscape, control panel or any gui app launched through gnome takes
> 30 -60 minutes to start. on boot half way through it stops and freezes at
> startting sendmail. well it appears to freeze. but if a few hours go by it
> will eventually come up. i am able to ping it while it boots.
>
> i tried "top". this does not tell me much.
> thank you for any input.
How much memory do you have ? check that linux sees all your memory and check
that your swap space is enabled.
Sendmail expects a fully qualified domain name entry for the host computer,
otherwise it tries to resolve and evetually gives up.
--
Bob Martin
------------------------------
From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 7.1 MultiBoot Problem
Date: 31 May 2001 19:27:06 -0500
> Milan Pavlovic a �crit :
>
> P P E P
>
>+-----+----------------+--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+
> | FAT | NTFS |+--------+-----+---------------------+| NTFS
> |
> | | || linux |linux| NTFS ||
> |
> | 1G | 4G || native | swap| 4G ||
> |
> |win98| win 2k system || 2G | 0.5G| win 2k programs || DATA
> |
> | DOS | |+--------+-----+---------------------+|
> |
>
>+-----+----------------+--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+
> 1 2 3 4 5 6
>
> I have disk structure as shown above (expand the message and turn off wordwrap to
>see the image correctly).
>
> PQ Boot Magic is master Boot Loader, and from it I can boot into Win 98/DOS or
>Windows 2k with no problem. But I can't boot into Linux (even though I have installed
>it correctly, placing LILO on the
> begining of Linux logical partition, which is between, 650 and 860 cylinder, so it
>is under 1023 boundary). I can boot into Red Hat 7.1 linux from the boot diskette I
>made during installation
> process, but when I add Linux partition in Boot Magic configuration (using BMCFG on
>FAT partition, where Boot Magic is Installed), afterI choose Linux in Boot Magic menu
>(during boot process), I
> receive, on a new, blank text mode screen, "Preparing to load Red Hat Linux 7.1...."
>and nothing else. Screen freezes, and only restart helps.
>
> I'm using Boot Magic since it should be the easiest way to boot into different
>operating systems even after changin partitions positions and sizes (which I do,
>using partition MAgic from time to
> time).
>
> I was using bootsect.lnx file and NT loader before, but it all fails when I change
>position of Linux partition.
>
> What am I doing wrong???
>
> greetings
> Milan
>
> P.S. Configuration
>
> 1 FAT partition (PRIMARY) with Win 98/DOS and Boot Magic 1Gb
> 2 NTFS Win 2k system (PRIMARY) with Win 2k 4Gb
> EXTENDED partition contains
> 3 Linux native (Logical) with Red HAt 7.1 installed and LILO on it 2Gb
> 4 Linux swap (Logical) 500Mb
> 5 NTFS (Logical) with program files for Win 2k 4Gb
> 6 NTFS partition (Primary) with data files (rest of the HDD space)
>
> I'm running PIII 500MHz on GigaByte GA-686BXC M/B
Too much space for NT. I found it amusing considering that the 3G I got
for winblows out of 60G seems to a big waste of space.
>From what I see, if your drive is setup as LBA you don't have a cylinder
problem. I do notice that you have winblows 2000 which may have messed up
the drive. I'm not sure that partition magic can handle the problem.
Check to see if this boot manager would work for you. You can put
it on a dos drive, on the MBR or on a partition of it's own.
http://www.xosl.org/
If the problem is not w2k it will fail as well.
The mapping done during the install may not match what Redhat did. You might
want to recreate it. Since you can boot with diskette that should not be
a problem. Did you let NT play with the hard disk? It had the nasty habit
with 3.5x and 4.0 to require to be able to put it's signature on the disk.
At least for me this request usually meant :"Can I wipe out your partition
table?"
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat
We are the Cybernetic Entomology Experts
------------------------------
From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual booting and mp3 sharing
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:48:03 -0500
john paul miller wrote:
>
> What's the best way to partition my hard drive for dual booting with win98
> and linux (either mandrake or redhat) if I want to keep all my mp3's on a
> separate partition? What file system should I use for the mp3 partition?
>
> I have a 14 gb hard drive, and was thinking of this:
>
> 2-3 gb for win98 and programs
> 6-8 gb for mp3s
> 2-3 gb for linux and programs
>
>
>
>
>
You don't need to have a separate partition for your mp3's. Linux will
quite happily mount the windoze partition and read and write on it. Make
your windoze partition 10-11 GB and use the rest for Linux. All newer
distros should boot OK from that far inward on the drive using LILO, if
your BIOS is reasonably recent.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: looking for a text base user interface programming editer for C
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 00:57:01 GMT
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 00:48:26 +0800, Lanzon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Matthew van de Werken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Lanzon"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry, but you don't get better then VIM!
>> >
>> > The true programmer's tool :)
>> >
>>
>> I guess the only downside is the OP doesn't want to learn "a bunch of
>> keyboard commands".
>
>Pfft, and miss out on the best charater editing tool around? I figure start
>of learning about ":" and "/" and you can trial and error the rest! I think
>i am always finding new niffty commands every day :)
It's easy to understand why people coming from a Wintel background would be
reluctant to learn ``a bunch of keyboard commands'' because applications in
that world tend to have key bindings that change with each release of a
program. Who wants to make an investment in acquiring a habit that they will
be forced to change? The keyboard commands in Windows applications are also
inherently obtuse in the sense that using them typically involves some mixture
of UI navigation (think of the ``hotkey'' for a menu item which just brings up
a dialog box, which you then have to ``tab around'' in and interact with
controls using the keyboard). Someone coming from that background probably
can't imagine that the keyboard can be effective for anything other than
entering text.
------------------------------
From: Dean Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: [Q] Redhat 7.1 and Sygate
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 11:00:39 +1000
Hi!,
> I have a server with Win 98 and Sygate, and a linux box (RH 7.1) is
> connected to it.
[...]
>
> The problem is, if the linux box is connected to the network, it's
> extremely slow .. sometimes programs don't even start.
>
> It's fast when it's not connected. Also, it doesn't get any internet
> connection from Sygate.
>
> I couldn't find any problems with Sygate because other windows systems on
> the network works fine.
>
> Does anyone have same problem?
What sort of network card do you have in your Linux box and what speed and
duplex mode is it set in?, it is quite possible that the network card in your
Linux machine is speaking full duplex or 100Mb/s while the Sygate machine may
be speaking ten.
Additionally, what is the output of your /sbin/ifconfig. Does it show a
considerable number of errors ?
See ya
Dean Thompson
--
+____________________________+____________________________________________+
| Dean Thompson | E-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
| Bach. Computing (Hons) | ICQ - 45191180 |
| PhD Student | Office - <Off-Campus> |
| School Comp.Sci & Soft.Eng | Phone - +61 3 9903 2787 (Gen. Office) |
| MONASH (Caulfield Campus) | Fax - +61 3 9903 1077 |
| Melbourne, Australia | |
+----------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.setup.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Setup Digest
******************************
