Linux-Setup Digest #343, Volume #19 Mon, 7 Aug 00 15:13:12 EDT
Contents:
reclaiming the master boot record? (Peter Bismuti)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: How do I move filesystem from ide to scsi drive (Hartmann Schaffer)
Pseudo color graphics card not detected? (smyoo)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: Trade Mandrake 7.1 for equivilant ("Ryan Stark")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: pppd rejects "auth chap MD5" (Bill Unruh)
Re: Tip for installing RedHat 6.2 on an 8meg PC (E J)
Help with Printer (Paul Koch)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: reclaiming the master boot record?
Date: 7 Aug 2000 18:06:12 GMT
I tried running lilo as root but it still is trying to boot into
Win98, apparently I did more than overwrite the MBR.
What can I do now if anything?
Thanks
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:19:40 -0700
Zebee Johnstone wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.setup on Fri, 04 Aug 2000 17:17:24 -0700
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> >>
> >> Here, you deduct it from your taxable income, not the tax you pay.
> >>
> >So. If you can deduct it from your taxable income, you're than paying
> >less tax. Isn't it? Mate!?
> >
>
> Which isn't what you said. You said that the money went either to the
> software company or the taxman.
>
Gosh!
If you pay the money to the software company, and, as a result, you can
pay less tax.
Isn't that you still end up paying less?
> Clearly only half (at a marginal rate of 50%) goes to the taxman.
>
Then, deduct the other half as business loss. Talk to your tax
accountant/bean counter.
> And if company tax is lower - in some places it may be as low as 30% -
> then the reward for buying and tax-deducting is not attractive.
>
Put it on business loss.
Find a good accountant.
I am not an accountant. Or tax consultant. But business loss is legit
deduction.
> BIg companies have been pirating for years. I've worked for several
> and a lot of software was dodgy. Wasn't until FASA started getting
> real aggro and knocking off people like MLC Insurance that they
> tightened up.
>
Take Boeing as an example. If they go the free software route, they can
save millions in software costs, but they decided against it, because
it's not practical for such a big international corp to switch
everything, tens of thousands of employees in numourous countries, and,
the trainning costs and time loss will far outcosted the cost saving in
free software.
Most GNU-GPL stuff are fits for those college geeks with too much free
time on their hands. In the business world, time is money.
> However, small business and home users are not peanuts in the software
> world. If they were, places like OfficeWorks wouldn't be selling
> software.
>
No, I'm not saying home users and small biz are peanuts. But NOT
everybody has the knowledge, and time to tinker.
> Zebee
--
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
------------------------------
From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:23:26 -0700
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
> >Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> >>
> >> In comp.os.linux.setup on Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:54:24 -0700
> >> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >The arguement of costs is not important at all.
> >> >
> >> >At least for any real businesses.
> >> >
> >> >You see. Business software is part of the business expenses, so, they're
> >> >tax deductable.
> >> >
> >> >The money has got to go, either to the software companies, or to the tax
> >> >collectors.
> >> >
> >> >So. Tell me where's the *real* saving!!!???
> >> >
> >>
> >> Does tax deductability work differently in the US?
> >>
> >I don't know. I'll have to ask my cousin in Australia.
> >
> >> Here, you deduct it from your taxable income, not the tax you pay.
> >>
> >So. If you can deduct it from your taxable income, you're than paying
> >less tax. Isn't it? Mate!?
>
> If the corporate tax rate is 30%, then for every dollar spent on
> expenses, you get to deduct $0.30 from the tax bill.
>
> That means that while there is a tax "benefit," you're still behind
> by $0.70 on the dollar, or, in other words, are sitting on a net
> loss of money.
>
> I used to do tax work (in Canada; higher rates, not ludicrously different
> principles), and was fairly amazed at the number of doctors that
> were quite happy to throw their money away on frivolous "tax shelter"
> investments. I think they felt happy about it because they got to keep
> from paying the government a bunch of money. It was nonetheless quite
> irrational from an economic standpoint since for them to save $10,000 on
> their tax bill, they had to throw $20,000 into the "toilet" of "stupid
> tax shelter."
>
> You seem to be suffering from the same delusion, namely that it's always
> good to diminish your tax bill. That's downright _false_; the more
> rational thing to do is to _maximize your net cash flows._ Paying an
> extra $50,000 in taxes is a _wonderful_ thing so long as you're receiving
> an amount significantly _more_ than $50,000. I'd rather like to have
Talk to your bean counter. Put in on business loss if possible.
> an income tax bill next year of $100,000; that would imply that I had
> a whopping lot more income than I had this year.
>
Hey, I don't even mind to have an income tax bill of a couple of
millions either. :-)
Oh well... It's only a day dream for now. :-)
> >> So at best you save the tax that would be paid on the amount, not the
> >> amount.
> >>
> >> The costs must count, else who would bother pirating? And plenty of
> >> businesses *do* pirate, ask any of the vendor's associations.
> >>
> >To a certain extend. Yes.
> >
> >For private end users, and very small shops, probably.
> >
> >But for medium size and up biz. Not really. A few thousands, or even a
> >million or two,
> >might just be the amount that they put in the monthly petty cash.
>
> ... And this betrays the _other_ misunderstanding of how people
> actually attain wealth. Moving from "rags" to "riches" comes, in
> great part, from careful attention to detail, which includes paying
> attention to those "few thousands" of dollars.
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
> Roses are red,
> Violets are blue,
> I'm schizophrenic...
> And I am too.
--
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: How do I move filesystem from ide to scsi drive
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Date: 7 Aug 2000 14:25:21 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Denzil Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've decided to install a scsi controller, and install scsi drives. What
> is the best way to go about moving the filesystem from the current ide
> drive to the scsi drive?
how is your system partitioned? (i believe there are some problems
moving /var; you might have to do it in single user mode). in
general, what i do is
cd <partition you want to copy>
tar cf - . | (cd <partition you want to copy to>; tar xf -)
then you probably have to edit /etc/fstab, /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo
--
Hartmann Schaffer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (smyoo)
Subject: Pseudo color graphics card not detected?
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 18:27:17 GMT
Pleae help
I installed redhat 6.2 and am trying to use software at my office.
I could use some graphic tools but when I tried to use CADENCE
I got this message:
CADENCE program disaster:
Pseudo color graphics card not detected.
Session aborts
How can I solve this problem?
thanks for any help
seung-moon
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:34:48 -0700
John Hasler wrote:
>
> blowfish writes:
> > You see. Business software is part of the business expenses, so, they're
> > tax deductable.
>
> > The money has got to go, either to the software companies, or to the tax
> > collectors.
>
> You know even less about accounting then you do about copyright, and you
> have clearly never operated a business.
No. Actually I know nothing about anything. Like I've said before. I'm
just a whimpy nobody. <grin>
Those are the jobs of my attorney and tax accountant. That's what
they're for. ;-)
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin
--
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
------------------------------
From: "Ryan Stark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Trade Mandrake 7.1 for equivilant
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:36:49 -0700
ack, make that MaximumLinux magazine, stupid outlook(autocorrect or
something), I miss netscape.....
Sorry,
Ryan Stark
Ryan Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You can get a Mandrake 7.1 CD for $5 by going to your local book store and
> picking up Maximum Magazine, the one with the article about XFree86 4
>
> TTYL,
> Ryan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Buschman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > If anyone has a copy of mandrake 7.1 and is willing to trade please
> > e-mail me.
> >
> > Buschman
>
>
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:38:23 -0700
Jonathan Thornburg wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [[referring to Red Hat]]
> >what difference does it make? At the end of the day,
> >they're selling boxed sets containing a few CD's and a manual.
> >Microsoft is selling boxed sets containing a few CD's and a manual.
> >The difference is that Red Hat allows copying of said CD's and
> >Microsoft doesn't.
>
> I responded
> | And that Red Hat allows you to use the same boxed set for more than
> | one machine. (This makes a *big* difference in the cost when you have
> | a network of N machines.)
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, blowfish <..> commented
> >The arguement of costs is not important at all.
> >
> >At least for any real businesses.
> >
> >You see. Business software is part of the business expenses, so, they're
> >tax deductable.
>
> As is business hardware, and you'll notice the computer hardware market
> is rather price-sensitive!
>
> Tax laws vary from one country to another, but in the ones I'm familiar
> with, 100% of business expenses are tax deductible, and typical marginal
> corporate tax rates are around 50%, so the public at large ends up paying
> 50% of the cost (as a tax deduction from govt revenue), and the business
> ends up paying the other 50% of the cost. 50% of the cost difference
> between (say) a fully loaded-up Microsoft Windows 2000, and Red Hat
> GNU/Linux, multiplied by the number of computers in a large corporation,
> is a rather substantial chunk of cash.
>
> That said, the cost advantages of free software are even more dramatic
> for small users. Having worked around a number of small businesses as
> both employee and contractor, I can assure you that tight cash-flow
> positions are _very_ common, so the difference between
> (a) cheap PC + free software, and
> (b) cheap PC + Microsoft software,
> matters a lot.
>
> >It only matters to the free beer drunken college geeks who zero real
> >income, and too much free time on his/her hands.
>
> To switch every university-owned PC in the building in which I'm sitting,
> from Red Hat GNU/Linux to (say) Microsoft Windows 2000, would cost
> considerably more than our annual computer hardware budget.
>
Academia world has all the free time in the world though, time is money
in the biz world.
If they have to retrain employees. The time loss might very well costs
more than the costs of software.
> You might also consider non-profit organizations, and those in countries
> less wealthy than your own, for whom $200 for software may be a _huge_
> cost.
>
> --
> -- Jonathan Thornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> http://www.thp.univie.ac.at/~jthorn/home.html
> Universitaet Wien (Vienna, Austria) / Institut fuer Theoretische Physik
> Q: Only 5 countries have the death penalty for children. Which are they?
> A: Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, United States
--
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: pppd rejects "auth chap MD5"
Date: 7 Aug 2000 18:40:08 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Guy White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]In comp.os.linux.networking Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
]> You either forgot to fill /etc/ppp/chap-secrets with your
]> username * password *
]> or you forgot to give pppd the
]> user username
]> option.
]Are you sure that option isn't supposed to be;
]name username
](not)
]user username
]??
Yes. name is a priviledged option, and can only be used either by root
or inserted into the /etc/ppp/options file. user is an unprivildged
option, which works fine with chap and pap.
I have not figured out yet why there are two commands, one priviledged
and one not, but perhaps name overrides user, allowing the sysadmin to
restrict signons.
]Earthlink uses chap and that's what I have in my /etc/ppp/options. I
]checked the pppd manpage and it states that too, at least on the
]version I use. Sorry about the nitpick but the details make all the
]difference in config files.
Yes, you are fine, as you put it into the options file. You would have
found it did nto work had you put it into the pppd command line. So
either works-- name is just more restrictive.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Tip for installing RedHat 6.2 on an 8meg PC
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 11:53:11 -0700
I got a tip for you: BUY MORE MEMORY!!!! You can't install RH6.2 on a
PC with 8M of RAM.
http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/62/rh6.2-hcl-i.ld-2.html#ss2.6
2.6 RAM (memory)
16 MB minimum for the text install (requires 32 MB swap space). 24 MB or
more is recommended for better performance and for the
GUI installer. If you wish to run GNOME and Enlightenment or KDE, it is
recommended that you have 48 MB or more RAM.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Have you tried installing RedHat 6.2 on an old 486 with only 8M RAM? I
> did, and it didn't work. Nowhere on the box or in the docs did it
> say "minimum requirement: more than 8meg RAM", nor did it actually tell
> me that's why it was "terminating abnormally" after finding the CDROM.
> Even when I gave it the kernel parameter "linux mem=8M expert" that
> still made no difference.
>
> So, I rebooted and waited for it to get to the stage where it asks me
> where the packages are coming from (options are Local CDROM or Hard
> Drive, but I presume this method would work for the net install as
> well, since that also crashed out on me). BEFORE pointing it to the CD
> ROM, I switched to the root prompt (Alt-F2) and manually configured
> some swap space. This is harder than it sounds:
>
> 1. "mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1" to create the dev entry for hda1
> 2. "mkswap /dev/hda1" to prepare swapspace
> 3. "mkdir /mnt/floppy" to prepare a mount point for a floppy, because
> the swapon program is not part of the root system at this point
> 4. "mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0" to create the dev entry for fd0
> 5. "mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy" to mount an EXT2 floppy containing the
> swapon binary (note that an msdos floppy will not work because FAT fs
> support is also not part of the root system)
> 6. "cp /mnt/floppy/swapon /sbin" to transfer swapon to the system
> 7. "umount /mnt/floppy" to unmount the floppy and replace with the
> RH6.2 boot disk
> 8. "swapon /dev/hda1" to activate the swap space
>
> Now, the fun really starts. Continue with the install, pointing RedHat
> to the CD or wherever the packages are (as I said, I presume this would
> work for a net install too). After doing whatever you need to do with
> Drisk Druid or fdisk, it will say "Low memory: we need to write your
> partition table to disk now and turn swapping on, is this ok?".
>
> At this point you will discover, if you forged ahead without reading
> the whole message, that it crashes out when it tries to activate swap
> space which is already active. You need to make sure that the partition
> you use for swapping above (/dev/hda1 in my example) is NOT a linux
> swap partition (type 82) - otherwise the install program will try to
> activate it and crash. I used a DOS partition, but you can in fact use
> any type of partition for swapping, as long as it's not type 82.
>
> You may need to turn your original swap space off once the "real" linux
> swap partition has been activated by the install program (especially if
> you need to use the partition for part of your system!). Just switch
> back to Alt-F2 and type
>
> 1. "ln -s /sbin/swapon /sbin/swapoff"
> 2. "swapoff /dev/hda1"
>
> In fact it's probably a good idea to do this anyway, unless you've got
> so little swap space that the install won't complete!
>
> In case anybody's interested, I did this because I have an old SX-25
> which I have turned from a doorstop into a fairly useful printer/modem
> server and firewall for my home LAN. I want to run a 2.4 kernel for
> nice simple network address translation and packet forwarding (so that
> both my other PCs can get onto the net via the same 56k modem), hence
> my desire to install 6.2 (RedHat 5.0 installs cleanly first time in 8M
> without any fannying around, but you then have a very tedious time
> upgrading crucial packages etc.). The whole system fits into 165MB (5
> for /boot, 55 for / and 105 for /usr) - though I could do with glibc
> occupying less than 35MB with its pointless regional garbage
> in /usr/share/locale. I am of course not running X on this machine.
>
> Happy to correspond with anyone else enjoying or having trouble with
> RH6.2 on an old machine. If anyone from RedHat reads this I should like
> to urge them to facilitate the switching on of swap space far earlier
> in their install process in future versions, to assist installations on
> low memory machines. It wouldn't hurt (although it does mean you have
> to have the partitioning done properly with a boot disk before starting
> the install - but that's good practice anyway!).
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
> P.S. It's just occurred to me that if your CD-ROM is autodetected (eg.
> on an EIDE/ATAPI interface), you might not get the chance to turn
> swapping on manually at the same point that I did (I'm using a
> Soundblaster CDROM). Oooops.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Paul Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Printer
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 15:00:56 -0400
I am trying to get a Xerox 4220 printer running in HP mode running over
ethernet using RedHat 6.2. We are able to get other HP printers
working, we must be missing something. Any help would be appreciated, we
are running out of things to try!!!
thanks
Paul
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 12:09:04 -0700
phil hunt wrote:
>
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:00:59 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Then, the natives in E. Timor got tired of being ruled by "outsider.",
> >and tired of the Chinese-Indosians controlling much of the economy. They
> >rebelled.
>
> This isn't quite true. East Timor was an independent country, which Indonesia
> invaded and occupied.
>
You can say that for a lot of countries.
> --
> *****[ Phil Hunt ]*****
> ** The RIAA want to ban Napster -- so boycott the music industry! **
> ** Don't buy CDs during August; see http://boycott-riaa.com/ **
> ** Spread the word: Put this message in your sig. **
>
>
--
- Alex / blowfish.(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
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