Linux-Setup Digest #352, Volume #19 Tue, 8 Aug 00 16:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
How to extract iso file into harddrive? (Krish Mohan)
Re: Yes, I know - RTFM, but SMB OK but not NMB ? (Staffan Emren)
Re: Kernel compile fails early at main.c (Rasputin)
Re: Promise ultra66 ("Fredericv")
Re: Help installing Linksys EtherFast 10/100 card (siva)
Re: How to extract iso file into harddrive? (Gernot Fink)
Frame Buffer And Resolution Changse ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Maximum Linux (WAS Re: Trade Mandrake 7.1 for equivilant) ("Alan Murrell")
alternating between networking settings (Peter Bismuti)
Re: Can Redhat 6.2 run on Umsdos filesystems(FAT32)?Answer to my E-mail PLEASE.
(MPeh)
Re: Promise ultra66 (Michael Kelly)
Rehat Linux 6.1 Installation ("Andy Yap Wei Heong")
Re: Tip for installing RedHat 6.2 on an 8meg PC ("Newid")
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 08 Aug 2000 09:17:54 -0400
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Robert Krawitz wrote:
> >
> > > > The claim at hand is that copyright interferes with the workings of a
> > > > truly free market by forbidding others from making copies and selling
> > > > them (giving one person an artificial monopoly in the good).
> > > >
> > > If you are not the owner/creator of that object. Then, you have no right
> > > to sell, modify or do anything with it without the owner/creator's
> > > permission. Period.
> >
> > but an idea is *not* an object. period.
> >
> Agree.
>
> > why should an idea be owned? can an idea be owned? sometimes not.
> > e.g., mathematics cannot be patented or copyrighted. the square root
> > of two is a concept free for anyone's taking -- yet it is created.
>
> Please re-read my posts carefully. I said when the idea had became a
> tangible object/item. Then, that object, as based on the "once was only
> an idea" can then be owned.
is software tangible? you cannot touch it. the disk or medium it
came upon, yes. but the software itself, no. therefore, the answer
to my first question is -- no, by definition of tangible.
ideas like software differ from objects in that they have the copy
property. you can copy and share an idea and not lose its intrisic
utility. e.g., if i know how to solve a certain equation and explain
to you how to solve it, i do not lose my ability. we both would have
it.
furthermore, ideas are often made *more* valuable by sharing. e.g.,
if i know how to read and write english it helps to have many more
people who also know how to read and write english since they will
produce text in english for me to read.
this is different from objects. if i loan you my car, i lose the use
of the car for as long as you have it. you can copy the software on
the cd-rom, but not the cd-rom in and of itself.
because ideas act very differently from objects, i have a hard time
seeing why the law should treat them the same. i don't understand why
the government should try to artificially force it into the mold of a
object when the closest they can come is a mercantilist patent or
license rather than a capitalistic commodity.
> An idea before being materialised cannot really be owned. I have to
> agree on that. Even it's debatable to a certain extents. I'm not a
> bonehead like some blind faith wroshipper of the GNU-GPL.
ad hominem will get you no where. it's as worthless as your strawmen.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
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sysengr
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From: Krish Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to extract iso file into harddrive?
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 09:48:28 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a way to extract the iso file into a harddrive. I do not have a
CDROM burner.
regards
krish mohan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Staffan Emren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yes, I know - RTFM, but SMB OK but not NMB ?
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 18:32:32 +0200
Ian Turnbui wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
> I installed Mandrake 7.0 and it now starts and stops (on shutdown) both SMB
> & NMB, I didn't install it, that was done automatically by the Linux
> installation - nice of it, but it doesn't seem to work!. That is ti say that
> on booting Linux it starts both SMB and NMB and reports OK status. On
> shutdown its OK status for SMB but [FAILED] for NMB. Is there a simple
> answer to this. Here's the crunch tho'
> I can't see anything on my Desktop which refers to Samba except one thing
> that says "Samba status" ? What should I be looking for. The tons of reading
> I've done doesn't say this is the icon etc, I mean I know that in the
> startup scripts you put the SMB and NMB bits bu where does it appear so you
> can look at it??
If your computer is networked, and you have files that windows-based
comptuters in that network need to access, then you use samba (SMB) to
create a "windows-like" file sharing service. Samba relies heavily on
name resolving to work properly, and this is what nmbd does. Probably
the reason for nmbd dying is a problem with the name resolving.
If you need this service, start reading the docs, configure your
smb.conf and smb.users and make shure your name resolving is working
(DNS, /etc/hosts and so on). If you don't need to share your files with
windows mashines, you can safely ignore all about samba, or you can even
disable it by renaming the links in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d and rc5.d from
S35smb to K35smb (exchange 35 for the numbers that are actually there in
your installation).
Good luck!
Staffan Emren
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Kernel compile fails early at main.c
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 16:58:04 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Adam Williams> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>
> I recently upgraded from RH 6.0 to 6.2 and am tying to recompile the
>kernel. The reason is that I had been having printing problems and
>learned thatinexplicably
>printer support had been disabled in the kernel. Once I re-enabled it, I
>attempted to recompile but got the following error:
I heard you the first time ;)
>
>gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.2.14/include -Wall
>-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
>-fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2
>-malign-functions=2 -DCPU=586 -c -o init/main.o init/main.c
>init/main.c: In function "start_kernel':
>init/main.c:1273: too few arguments to functon 'dcache_init'
>make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1
>
>This is the first "step" in the compilation process, but doesn't get
>past it.
No, 'make dep' is the first step. Have you done that?
List what steps you've taken so far...
> I run a pentium 120 w/ 64 megs of RAM and a relatively full 1.2
>Gig HD. I would imagine that something else was changed in the kernel
>configuration that I'm not aware of that's bringing this on.
>On a separate note, I was also wondering how to clean up my HD so that I can
>get rid of unneeded stuff that may have been left over since the
>upgrade. I have virtually NO data on the HD besides what's been put
>there by the RH
>installation CD's, but instead of taking up only ~ 800 MB of space, the
>system now takes up around a GB or so. I would appreciate any
>ideas.Thanks in advance.
>
>Adam
Ok, paste this into a file called '2hewge' (or whatever you like):
==========================================
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
## 2hewge: lists all installed RPMs with their sizes
## Rasputin , Aug 1999
## this code distributed with no warranty of any kind -
## - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces
@rpmlist = `rpm -qa`;
foreach $rpm (@rpmlist) {
$screen_of_crap = `rpm -qi $rpm`;
$screen_of_crap =~ m /Size\s+: ([0-9]+)/g;
print "$1 " . $rpm ;
}
==========================================
chmod +x it, and then run it like this:
./2hewge | sort -n
You'll get a list of all the installed RPMS,
along with their sizes (biggest at the bottom)
If it looks like you don't need any , "rpm -e" them out.
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: "Fredericv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Promise ultra66
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:10:50 GMT
I had the same problem...
Mandrake7.1 has applied the 2.3.x ide patches to the distribution
kernel wich solves the Promise ATA/66 problem.
I'm not sure, but I think I read somewhere that Suse6.3 supports
it too.
Frederic
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"The charm of knowledge would be small, were it not that
so much shame has to be overcome on the way to it..."
'Friedrich Nietzsche'
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"Stefaan Morbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8mocfh$q3b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if anyone could help me on this.
> I have a fair knowledge of linux but now I have put my
> hard disks on a Promise ultra66 controller, and when I want
> to install linux (redhat 6.2) it doesn't recognize the controller.
> Is it possible to make a setup disk for redhat 6.2 so it will
> also look for the promise controller, so I don't have to witch cables
> again ?
>
> thx
>
>
>
>
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From: siva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help installing Linksys EtherFast 10/100 card
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 17:29:59 GMT
Frank,
Get the tulip driver from the following site and follow the steps
mentioned below. It should work fine.
http://www.scyld.com/network/updates.html
Use the following commands to install and test the driver pack:
# Transfer the Scyld PCI Netdriver package
rpm -i ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/network/netdriver-2.0.src.rpm
# Build the binary version for your kernelcd /usr/src/{redhat,TurboLinux}/
rpm -bb SPECS/netdriver.spec# Now install it your newly built package.
rpm -i --force RPMS/i386/netdriver-2.0-*.i386.rpm
The --force option is needed because the new drivers may conflict with the
existing drivers installed by the kernel package. If this occurs you will
see a warning message for each driver that has been updated.
It recompiled all my drivers. When I restarted my network its working
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gernot Fink)
Subject: Re: How to extract iso file into harddrive?
Date: 8 Aug 2000 17:47:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Krish Mohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there a way to extract the iso file into a harddrive. I do not have a
> CDROM burner.
>
> regards
> krish mohan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Mount it as loop-device:
mount isofile /mnt -o loop
--
MFG G.Fink
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Frame Buffer And Resolution Changse
Date: 8 Aug 2000 17:49:16 GMT
Howdy all,
I have compiled my kernel, 2.2.16, with frame buffer by enabling the
following features :-
[*] Video mode selection support
[*] Support for frame buffer devices (EXPERIMENTAL)
[*] VESA VGA graphics console
<*> Virtual Frame Buffer support (ONLY FOR TESTING!)
All works fine, the penguin comes up etc.
I now want to be able to dynamically change frame buffer
modes so I have created the file /etc/fb.modes and inseted
the following with the aid of fbset
mode "1"
# D: 78.653 MHz, H: 59.949 kHz, V: 75.694 Hz 1024x768
geometry 1024 768 1024 768 16
timings 12714 128 32 16 4 128 4
endmode
mode "2"
# D: 48.001 MHz, H: 46.876 kHz, V: 75.121 Hz 800x600
geometry 800 600 800 600 16
timings 20833 96 32 16 4 96 4
endmode
When I try and change to a different mode with fbset it complains
about an error - any ideas?
sylvester:/usr/src/linux# fbset -v 2
Linux Frame Buffer Device Configuration Version 2.1 (23/06/1999)
(C) Copyright 1995-1999 by Geert Uytterhoeven
Opening frame buffer device `/dev/fb0'
Reading mode database from file `/etc/fb.modes'
Using video mode `2'
Setting video mode to `/dev/fb0'
ioctl FBIOPUT_VSCREENINFO: Invalid argument
Thanx
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From: "Alan Murrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Maximum Linux (WAS Re: Trade Mandrake 7.1 for equivilant)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:51:04 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Stafford
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> never find it. That very first issue was the only one I ever saw.
>
> Do they ever put other distros on the CD, like Slackware?
Actually, about a month or so agao, I saw another issue of Maximum Linux,
and it had Red Hat 6.1 on the CD.
--
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http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Comet/1777
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: alternating between networking settings
Date: 8 Aug 2000 17:52:18 GMT
I have a laptop, at home and work I have different network settings.
I'm tired of having to go into netconf (etc) and changing the settings
by hand. Is there any way of doing this automatically?
I could write a Perl script, but I'm a little unclear on which files
need to be altered, scripts need to be run, etc.
Anyone figured this out?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MPeh)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Redhat 6.2 run on Umsdos filesystems(FAT32)?Answer to my E-mail
PLEASE.
Date: 8 Aug 2000 18:27:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:17:25 +0200, Aleksandar Antok wrote:
>Can Redhat 6.2 run on Umsdos filesystems(FAT32)?
>My hard-drive crashed when I maked Ext2 partition, so this time I want to go
>much easier way by installing Redhat 6.2 on FAT32 partition.
>
Yes, Red Hat 6.2 can be installed on Fat32 or Fat16 filesystem
and booted from there.
--
Not only is UNIX dead, it's starting to smell really bad.
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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Promise ultra66
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 14:43:23 -0400
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:22:30 +0200, "Stefaan Morbee"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I was wondering if anyone could help me on this.
>I have a fair knowledge of linux but now I have put my
>hard disks on a Promise ultra66 controller, and when I want
>to install linux (redhat 6.2) it doesn't recognize the controller.
>Is it possible to make a setup disk for redhat 6.2 so it will
>also look for the promise controller, so I don't have to witch cables
>again ?
>
>thx
>
Hi Stefaan. This link should get you started. Although where it says
"+2" on the second address to pass to Lilo I didn't add 2, just used
the 2 addresses as shown either from your Windows system info
in device manager or from the /proc/pci readout as shown in this
howto. Anyway, the way I got it to recognize the udma natively
without changing dist(I have TurboLinux 4.0 Workstation) was
to download a newer kernel and compile it with all the Promise
experimental udma options enabled. See one of the UDMA
howtos for details.
http://www.uni-erlangen.de/docs/RRZE/institut/sysadm/unix/linux/HOWTOS/mini/Ultra-DMA-5.html
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From: "Andy Yap Wei Heong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rehat Linux 6.1 Installation
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 03:33:19 +0800
Hi,
I am trying to install rehat Linux in a Pentium 100mhz 16M RAM 810MB
Hardisk, however, I keep encounter the following error message:
Disk Space
You don't appear to have enough disk space to install the package you've
selected. You need more space for the following filesystem:
MounPoint Space needed
/ 4M
But the fact is I am allocating 750MB for mounting point / , can anyone
enlighten me.
Thank you
Regards
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From: "Newid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Tip for installing RedHat 6.2 on an 8meg PC
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:33:26 +0100
Does it need to be RedHat - why not try one of the other distributions more
tailored to smaller memory machines... RedHat comes with a load of cruft.
Although you may not run RH6.2 on 8mb (huh?) Linux should run - because (and
I quote from Linux Complete) 4mb is the absolute minimum...
Have a dig around for other friendlier (for your needs anyway) distro's...
Slackware?
--
Adam Rykala
Communications Officer
Plaid Cymru, the Party of Wales in Blaenau Gwent
http://www.bgplaid.cymru.eu.org
"E J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I got a tip for you: BUY MORE MEMORY!!!! You can't install RH6.2 on a
> PC with 8M of RAM.
>
>
http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/intel/62/rh6.2-hcl-i.ld-2.html#ss2.6
>
> 2.6 RAM (memory)
>
> 16 MB minimum for the text install (requires 32 MB swap space). 24 MB or
> more is recommended for better performance and for the
> GUI installer. If you wish to run GNOME and Enlightenment or KDE, it is
> recommended that you have 48 MB or more RAM.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Have you tried installing RedHat 6.2 on an old 486 with only 8M RAM? I
> > did, and it didn't work. Nowhere on the box or in the docs did it
> > say "minimum requirement: more than 8meg RAM", nor did it actually tell
> > me that's why it was "terminating abnormally" after finding the CDROM.
> > Even when I gave it the kernel parameter "linux mem=8M expert" that
> > still made no difference.
> >
> > So, I rebooted and waited for it to get to the stage where it asks me
> > where the packages are coming from (options are Local CDROM or Hard
> > Drive, but I presume this method would work for the net install as
> > well, since that also crashed out on me). BEFORE pointing it to the CD
> > ROM, I switched to the root prompt (Alt-F2) and manually configured
> > some swap space. This is harder than it sounds:
> >
> > 1. "mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1" to create the dev entry for hda1
> > 2. "mkswap /dev/hda1" to prepare swapspace
> > 3. "mkdir /mnt/floppy" to prepare a mount point for a floppy, because
> > the swapon program is not part of the root system at this point
> > 4. "mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0" to create the dev entry for fd0
> > 5. "mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy" to mount an EXT2 floppy containing the
> > swapon binary (note that an msdos floppy will not work because FAT fs
> > support is also not part of the root system)
> > 6. "cp /mnt/floppy/swapon /sbin" to transfer swapon to the system
> > 7. "umount /mnt/floppy" to unmount the floppy and replace with the
> > RH6.2 boot disk
> > 8. "swapon /dev/hda1" to activate the swap space
> >
> > Now, the fun really starts. Continue with the install, pointing RedHat
> > to the CD or wherever the packages are (as I said, I presume this would
> > work for a net install too). After doing whatever you need to do with
> > Drisk Druid or fdisk, it will say "Low memory: we need to write your
> > partition table to disk now and turn swapping on, is this ok?".
> >
> > At this point you will discover, if you forged ahead without reading
> > the whole message, that it crashes out when it tries to activate swap
> > space which is already active. You need to make sure that the partition
> > you use for swapping above (/dev/hda1 in my example) is NOT a linux
> > swap partition (type 82) - otherwise the install program will try to
> > activate it and crash. I used a DOS partition, but you can in fact use
> > any type of partition for swapping, as long as it's not type 82.
> >
> > You may need to turn your original swap space off once the "real" linux
> > swap partition has been activated by the install program (especially if
> > you need to use the partition for part of your system!). Just switch
> > back to Alt-F2 and type
> >
> > 1. "ln -s /sbin/swapon /sbin/swapoff"
> > 2. "swapoff /dev/hda1"
> >
> > In fact it's probably a good idea to do this anyway, unless you've got
> > so little swap space that the install won't complete!
> >
> > In case anybody's interested, I did this because I have an old SX-25
> > which I have turned from a doorstop into a fairly useful printer/modem
> > server and firewall for my home LAN. I want to run a 2.4 kernel for
> > nice simple network address translation and packet forwarding (so that
> > both my other PCs can get onto the net via the same 56k modem), hence
> > my desire to install 6.2 (RedHat 5.0 installs cleanly first time in 8M
> > without any fannying around, but you then have a very tedious time
> > upgrading crucial packages etc.). The whole system fits into 165MB (5
> > for /boot, 55 for / and 105 for /usr) - though I could do with glibc
> > occupying less than 35MB with its pointless regional garbage
> > in /usr/share/locale. I am of course not running X on this machine.
> >
> > Happy to correspond with anyone else enjoying or having trouble with
> > RH6.2 on an old machine. If anyone from RedHat reads this I should like
> > to urge them to facilitate the switching on of swap space far earlier
> > in their install process in future versions, to assist installations on
> > low memory machines. It wouldn't hurt (although it does mean you have
> > to have the partitioning done properly with a boot disk before starting
> > the install - but that's good practice anyway!).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Chris
> > P.S. It's just occurred to me that if your CD-ROM is autodetected (eg.
> > on an EIDE/ATAPI interface), you might not get the chance to turn
> > swapping on manually at the same point that I did (I'm using a
> > Soundblaster CDROM). Oooops.
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
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