Linux-Setup Digest #363, Volume #19 Wed, 9 Aug 00 19:13:14 EDT
Contents:
kernel: eth0: interrupt(s) dropped! / Reentering the interrupt handler! isr 0x0 imr
0x0 ???!!???!?*?*++_!?*** ("Ian Turnbui")
Re: Camera Application software run on Linux PC (bill davidsen)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: KDE: Setup Apps to run in virtual desktops. (Steven Carlson)
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From: "Ian Turnbui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel: eth0: interrupt(s) dropped! / Reentering the interrupt handler! isr
0x0 imr 0x0 ???!!???!?*?*++_!?***
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 23:26:11 +0100
Can someone tell me what this is all about and perhaps how I can stop it
happening. I found this in /var/log/messages file ?!?!?!?!? I believe this
is preventing me pinging Linux from W98SE ?!
TIA
Ian Turnbull
0961 931941
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web : www.turnbui.freeserve.co.uk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bill davidsen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Camera Application software run on Linux PC
Date: 9 Aug 2000 22:41:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jan Panteltje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Only on par port and with the Creative webcam II, that is what I wrote.
| And not so much conferencing, but just internet connection.
| http://www.panteltje.demon.nl/mcam/
Is the hardware still available? I have several webcams which I
ordered only to find that the model had changed, and by the time there
was Linux support the camera was out of production.
The latest is a something-webcam-VC from Logitek (IIRC) which I got
instead of what I ordered. Fortunately that stuff makes nice Christmas
presents.
--
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
"Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess."
-- Fat John (R.I.P.)
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:32:07 -0700
Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
>
> > Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when blowfish would say:
>
> > >So. They have to spend all the money. One way or the other.
> > >(I'm not talking about small business here. I'm talking about those that
> > >get tens of million of dollar, or more for IT budget every year.)
> >
> > If departments save money on one thing, that can allow them to spend
> > _more_ on other things. If they shovel less money into the pockets of
> > Microsoft, Oracle, and IBM, for license fees, this can let them spend
> > that money on _SOMETHING ELSE_.
> >
> > The principle might be called the "Law of Conservation of Spending,"
> > which means that "If you find yourself under budget due to something
> > costing less than expected, that provides the necessity to spend _more_
> > on something else."
>
> Actually, the Fishpot is somewhat correct about this, albeit probably
> through no fault of his own here. Departments don't simply get a
> budget, they get individual line items, and pretty much have to hit
> budget on every one of those line items or watch next year's
> allocation plummet.
>
> I worked for one major supercomputer vendor some years back, and a
> customer called me to ask whether a $100K front end to a $10M system
> should be configured with a really trashy disk drive and seriously
> insufficient memory vs. a merely trashy drive and woefully
> insufficient memory. When I noted that the front end should be
> configured with sufficient memory and a good drive, he explained that
> they had a big pot of money for purchase of the supercomputer and a
> much smaller pot for the front end system.
>
> So yes, a department with an IT budget of $1M for software may well
> feel compelled to buy more expensive software than they need just to
> hit their budget. That doesn't mean that every department operates
> under those constraints, but that sort of nonsense does happen.
>
Danke. Thank you. Gracias. Dor Mor. Merci. Well said.
:-)
> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
>
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:35:02 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.misc blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But with many, if not most major corperations. If they do not spend all
> > the money in the budget, then, they'll get less money for their
> > department on the next round of budgeting.
>
> > So. They have to spend all the money. One way or the other.
> > (I'm not talking about small business here. I'm talking about those that
> > get tens of million of dollar, or more for IT budget every year.)
>
> But still, it's a very rare occurrance that departments run UNDER budget.
> Saving money on software would release that money for a few home comforts or
> whatever, like an office redecoration/refit, hardware upgrades, extra staff
> traning and incentives, etc...
>
I've seen this happened before in real life. Even after hardware
upgrade, new office furniture and a new paint job on the wall.
> Or don't these managers have an imagination?
>
I guess not.
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a |
> | | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
> | in |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
> | Computer Science | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:42:05 -0700
phil hunt wrote:
>
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2000 19:52:57 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >But with many, if not most major corperations. If they do not spend all
> >the money in the budget, then, they'll get less money for their
> >department on the next round of budgeting.
>
> Stop trying to wriggle out, you stupid, offensive, wilfully ignorant troll.
>
Yes. I am stupid, offensive (but I'm fair, an equal opportunity
offender. ;-))
wilfully ignorant, and a lot more. You forgot to call me a dumb ass! How
could you forget that? Yike! Shame on you.
But troll? No. I'm the fish. Hehe. :P
> You were wrong. Admit it.
No. It's just a matter of opinion. Where you're looking from. Your
personal point of view and believe.
>
> *PLONK*
>
Plonked! Plonked!
Help! Help! Call the ambulance. I've been plonked! :P
The horror... The horror... The horror...
Plonks copied/acknowledged. (via scp. So nobody can spoof it. ;-))
> --
> *****[ Phil Hunt ]*****
> ** The RIAA want to ban Napster -- so boycott the music industry! **
> ** Don't buy CDs during August; see http://boycott-riaa.com/ **
> ** Spread the word: Put this message in your sig. **
>
>
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:43:39 -0700
Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >>
> >> > Free market means just that: The Freedom to Trade with who ever and
> >> > whatever (within legal limits) you want.
> >> Does it? I think that's what usually called "Free Trade".
> >> "Free Market" means letting the interaction between people
> >> determine the price of goods.
> >>
> > It also means nothing to stop the seller to get the maximum amount of
> > profits they want, as long as the market can bears it.
> Which is exactly what I said, only using slightly more
> loaded words :-)
>
;-)
> --
> Stefaan
> --
> Ninety-Ninety Rule of Project Schedules:
> The first ninety percent of the task takes ninety percent of
> the time, and the last ten percent takes the other ninety percent.
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
------------------------------
From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:47:55 -0700
Robert Krawitz wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Stefaan A Eeckels wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >>
> > > > Free market means just that: The Freedom to Trade with who ever and
> > > > whatever (within legal limits) you want.
> > > Does it? I think that's what usually called "Free Trade".
> > > "Free Market" means letting the interaction between people
> > > determine the price of goods.
> > >
> > It also means nothing to stop the seller to get the maximum amount of
> > profits they want, as long as the market can bears it.
>
> And nothing to stop other sellers from sniffing profit, jumping in,
> and undercutting the first seller.
Correcto. But, then there's the legal issue of the origine of the
merchandise. Is it the real, authorised copies, or are those
counterfieted copies?
;-)
Give me a good, internationally legally acceptable reason why
counterfeits should be allowed.
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
>
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
------------------------------
From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 15:57:58 -0700
John Hasler wrote:
>
> blowfish writes:
> > Let's say:
>
> > Somebody stole your idea
>
> It is impossible to steal an idea.
>
> > of what you were going to contribute to Debian/GNU-GPL-whatever.
>
> Pppconfig will do as an example. Quite a few people have had the idea of a
> ppp configurator: it is not a particulary original concept. I don't think
> anyone else has implemented it quite as well as I have, but then I am not
> exactly unbiased.
>
Of course, very few ideas are really original. Nobody needs to reinvent
the wheel. Just trying to improve upon the basic designs.
It's perfectly okay to have your personal bias. Or else, the world would
be really dull.
When people disagree, then, a conflict is being created, then, dialogs
will open up to try to solve the differences, then, progress is made.
There's no progress in human without conflicts. As long as we can remain
relatively cool, and solve the involving issues with our brains, instead
of with muscles. ;-)
> > The same idea/codes that you got $25k as a reward from the Finnish
> > government.
>
> The last time I received any sort of "reward" from any government was when
> I collected my final pay from the US Army thirty years ago.
>
Salute. Rouuuu Raaawwwhhhh!!!
Do they do that in the Army too? Or just in the Marines?
I thpught you said the $25k came from a contribution/donation/payola
from the Finnish government. No!!!???
> > ...and submitted it to Debian, whoever ahead of you, but it's the same
> > copy of what you've got...
>
> If I had made pppconfig available before I packaged it and uploaded it,
> and another Debian developer had done so first, then he would have become
> the maintainer of the pppconfig package. He undoubtedly would have given
> the package to me as soon as I expressed interest in maintaining it though:
> as author I'm better qualified to maintain it then anyone else.
>
> > ...and now this person got the $25k reward...
>
> I was already a Debian developer when I wrote pppconfig. In order to
> upload it he would have to also be a Debian developer. All Debian
> developers had the same opportunity that I made $25k on. Thus your
> scenario falls apart.
>
So. You're hired hand for Debian. Or unofficial hired hand (or coder, if
you prefer.) No?
> >.. from the same Finnish govt.,
>
> From no government.
>
> > ...with a copy of the codes that you wrote.
>
> You can get a copy of "the codes I wrote" from the Debian archive any time
> you wish. You won't have much luck uploading the code to Debian, though.
> To begin with, you'd need to be a Debian developer. You'd never qualify.
>
> > Now. How would you feel about that!?
>
> Life is not a zero-sum game.
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
(c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
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From: Steven Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.kde,linux.help,linux.net,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: KDE: Setup Apps to run in virtual desktops.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 22:09:42 GMT
Also I have tried the -desktop x and it doesn't work.
steven
Steven Carlson wrote:
> What is the session management?
>
> thank you,
>
> Steven Carlson
>
> "ne..." wrote:
>
> > On Aug 9, 2000 at 02:24, Steven Carlson eloquently wrote:
> >
> > >I currently have four virtual desktops setup (Desktop, Telnet, Netscape,
> > >and Konsole) and have setup my box to execute all of the programs I want
> > >open when I boot (i.e. telnet connection, netscape, etc..). Now what I
> > >would like to know is how I can force these programs (and others I
> > >execute later on during my session) to go to a specific virtual desktop
> > >and if possible to load up the last location in which the program was
> > >previously at during last execution.
> > For KDE < 1.89 use kstart "/path/to/program" -desktop x
> > where x is the desktop number. Once they are up, resize
> > them and close. KDE should then use the last size if
> > session management is enabled.
> > [...]
> >
> > --
> > Registered Linux User # 125653 (http://counter.li.org)
> > That all men should be brothers is the dream of people who have no brothers.
> > -- Charles Chincholles, "Pensees de tout le monde"
> > 1:32pm up 30 days, 16:37, 9 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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