Linux-Setup Digest #379, Volume #19              Fri, 11 Aug 00 19:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How to Convert Document to Fax (brian)
  Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
  Re: Linux on AMD (blowfish)
  Re: Bootup Hangs at Sendmail ("Cindy Bartorillo")
  Re: ISDN 128K modem (sideband)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
  Re: Apache vs. IIS 5 (Glitch)
  Re: Apache vs. IIS 5 ("Brian")
  Re: Apache vs. IIS 5 (Bob Niederman)
  Re: Linux on AMD (David C.)
  Re: Linux on AMD (David C.)
  Red Hat installation: mount failed (Neil Zanella)
  Re: font size in Netscape menu (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: Problem including <limits.h> (Andrew Jaffe)

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From: brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to Convert Document to Fax
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:14:24 -0500

I found my own answer in a book, "Mastering Linux," by Arman Danesh. on
pages 566-567.  The page says how to set it up for the application, efax.
I had to make a few adjustments for mingetty+sendfax.  This is what I did:

edit    /etc/printcap    by adding the following:

fax:\
           :sd=/var/spool/fax:\
           :mx=#0:\
           :lp=/dev/null:\
           :if=/usr/bin/faxspool:

Explanation:

fax:\                                 sets the device name
:sd=/var/spool/fax:\        sets the fax spool directory
:mx=#0:\                          sets the file size limit to unlimited
:lp=/dev/null:\                  sets the lp device to the null device
:if=/usr/bin/faxspool:      activates the fax software

The book provides a "printtool" illustration for those who like RedHat,
Mandrake, or others using the application, printtool, to set up printers.

Hope this helps someone else.

brian wrote:

> I need someone to tell how to convert a document from an application
> (for example, like Star Office) to a file that I can fax using mingetty
> fax application.  I can't seem to find that in the man pages.  Man pages
> for g3cat seems to imply that GhostScript offers a digifax driver.
> Mingetty related man pages do tell me how to fax a file already in a
> facsimile format.  So, I only can receive faxes.  At the very least, I
> need something that can convert documents to a facismile format (without
> doing "snapshots" of my open documents in their applications).  My hope
> is to find a way to install a printer driver for a fax device.  Please
> teach me how to fax something in Linux.


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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:25:01 -0700

J Bland wrote:
> 
> >> >SuSE 6.4 have default K6-3DNow optimisation as well.
> >>
> >> Do they? Never seen it myself. I wonder how you get 3dnow optimisations in
> >> an i386 rpm...
> >
> >Yes SuSE does. It's in the kernel. You can chose AMD-3D support during
> >setup in YaST2. :-)
> 
> Heh, that's like saying if you choose a pentium optimised kernel the whole
> distro is pentium optimised.
> 
> The majority (everything apart from the kernel) of SuSE, even 6.4, is
> compiled for i386 (or ppc, apx etc) and does not use 3dnow. The kernel
> doesn't do enough maths for the 3dnow patch to make a significant
> difference. If you want 3dnow support in packages that will make real use of
> it you need to recompile them yourself (things like xmms/mpg123 spring to
> mind).
> 
> The kernel is optimised for it, everything else isn't.
> 
> Frinky
Oh Yeah!

Are you using SuSE?

I am. I've been using SuSE since 5.x

I'm posting from a SuSE 6.4 2.2.14 kernel, i586 with 3DNow activated.
;-)

You CAN choose the kernel option from YaST2 during installation. 

Only sucky-crappy distros like RH, Debian, etc. , and so on you need to
recompile for anything other than the generic stuff.

Even soundcard, SMP, pentium, ata/dma a bunch of scsi, GForce video, etc
runs right out of the box without any messing around.

- Alex / blowfish.

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:26:39 -0700

J Bland wrote:
> 
> >> >SuSE 6.4 have default K6-3DNow optimisation as well.
> >>
> >> Do they? Never seen it myself. I wonder how you get 3dnow optimisations in
> >> an i386 rpm...
> >
> >Yes SuSE does. It's in the kernel. You can chose AMD-3D support during
> >setup in YaST2. :-)
> 
> Heh, that's like saying if you choose a pentium optimised kernel the whole
> distro is pentium optimised.
> 
> The majority (everything apart from the kernel) of SuSE, even 6.4, is
> compiled for i386 (or ppc, apx etc) and does not use 3dnow. The kernel
> doesn't do enough maths for the 3dnow patch to make a significant
> difference. If you want 3dnow support in packages that will make real use of
> it you need to recompile them yourself (things like xmms/mpg123 spring to
> mind).
> 
> The kernel is optimised for it, everything else isn't.
> 
> Frinky
And I *ALWAYS* compile from source for the other stuff.


-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

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From: "Cindy Bartorillo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bootup Hangs at Sendmail
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:40:42 -0400

You're both right! And I'm very grateful for the help. Geez, that Linuxconf
can create a mess.

CindyB

"Michael Nadler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If your system hangs while starting sendmail, it may be due to the
networking
> not being set up as you have said.  sendmail's attempts to do its name
> resolutions will eventually time out & the system should come up.  It may
take
> a few minutes, but it should eventually finish the boot up.
>
> RJ wrote:
>
> > Hi Cindy,
> >
> > You can boot your machine into single user mode to grab what you need or
to
> > fix the problem by typing "linux single" at the LILO: prompt.  You'll
get a
> > root shell and then you can do what you need to do.  You may have to
type
> > "mount -a" to make your filesystems accessible.
> >
> > As for moving files to a windows machine and then back to Linux... You
may
> > have problems if you have a long file names.  Windows doesn't do so well
> > with them.  It won't trash your files but it may wreck the names of
those
> > files.  I normally tar a directory structure into a single file and then
> > save that on some other machine until I can get it back to the target
Linux
> > box.  Something like "tar cvf mytarball.tar myDirOfFiles/".
> >
> > Good Luck,
> > RJ
> >
> > Cindy Bartorillo wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > After Linuxconf crashed in the middle of setting up networking, my
bootup
> > > (of my RedHat 6.1 system) hangs at the sendmail startup. I have a
> > bootdisk
> > > which the man page said could be used as a rescue disk, just type
> > 'rescue'
> > > at the LILO prompt. I did this, but a 'root disk' is also asked for.
> > Hitting
> > > enter at this point didn't work.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions about how I can get into my system to at least copy
off a
> > > few files before I install a new linux? I've ordered Mandrake 7.1
Deluxe.
> > > Also, will a linux file, copied onto a Windows disk, be usable later
> > (copied
> > > back to the new linux system)? In other words, will the Windows file
> > system
> > > hose the files?
> > >
> > > I've done considerable research on this, and nothing seems to fit my
> > case:
> > >
> > > Loadlin just bypasses LILO, which is not my problem. My problem is the
> > linux
> > > boot itself.
> > >
> > > I've looked for a 'root disk' on at least half a dozen linux ftp
sites,
> > but
> > > haven't found anything that looks right.
> > >
> > > I found a program called Explore2fs, but that is apparently unusable.
My
> > > linux is on a separate hard drive not recognized by Windows, and all
> > drives
> > > were partitioned with Partition Magic.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions will be appreciated.
> > >
> > > CindyB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
>



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From: sideband <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: ISDN 128K modem
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:59:53 -0400

C Schulz wrote:

> sideband wrote:
> >
> > "David .." wrote:
> >
> > > Looking for recommendations for a good stable 128K ISDN modem internal
> > > or external to use with linux. Will be used to give internet access to
> > > 24 users systems.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > --
> > > Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> > > Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> > > ID # 123538
> >
> > I've had good luck with the NETGEAR XM128 and a high speed serial card.
> > The modem's serial port is capable of 460.8Kbps, so get a serial card
> > capable of at least that.  The cost is nice too... $169 for the modem, and
> > $30 for a decent serial card that will handle the thruput.
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > -SSB
>
> Why not go for a PCI ISDN card, like an ASUS or AVM Fritz. They are
> capable of channel bonding and give you 128K access without the need of
> an additional serial card and are much cheaper: you should be able to
> get them for less than �50.
>
> Christian

Well, if you like having that much extra heat in your case, go for it.... I
guess it doesn't really make that much difference, unless you've got cooling
problems...

-SSB



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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:01:49 -0700

John Hasler wrote:
> 
> Andrew Halliwell writes to the blowfish:
> > Are you thick, or what?
> 
> You can only play a fish for so long before you have to either gaff it or
> release it.  He's given some good sport, but he's getting tired now.  Let's
> let him go.

00000000 596f 7520 6172 6520 6a75 7374 2064 656e
00000010 7969 6e67 2074 6865 2072 6561 6c69 7479
00000020 2e20 556e 7769 6c6c 696e 6720 746f 2061
00000030 6363 6570 7420 7468 6520 7472 7565 2e0a

> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

------------------------------

From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:03:39 -0700

Robert Krawitz wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
> 
> > I don't see any worms.  Of the Morris variety or otherwise...
> 
> I guess we've just discovered that worms can infect a blowfish, after
> all.

No. It's GNU-GPL did a core dump on its groupies. ;-)

> --
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
> 
> Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
> Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net
> 
> "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
> --Eric Crampton

-- 
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
user.
  (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
  lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
  But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
takes
  Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
  geek + vi | ~/emacs
==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
  newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
  Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
needle pulling thread.)
  lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
  (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:17:01 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Apache vs. IIS 5

you dont, ASP only works on NT with IIS.

I've heard someone is trying to port ASP to Apache don't its not done
yet and who knows how well it will workwhen it is done. You can try
doinga search for that on the Net and you might find out who is doing
it.  But for now it doesn't work.

ced wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Simple question: how to serve ASP pages with Apache?
> 
> Thanks for help,
> 
> ced

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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Apache vs. IIS 5
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:42:08 GMT

Hey Glitch:

Glitch wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>you dont, ASP only works on NT with IIS.


Check it out;

www.chilisoft.com/platforms/linux.asp

Best regards,

Brian



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From: Bob Niederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Apache vs. IIS 5
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:43:00 -0500

ced wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Simple question: how to serve ASP pages with Apache?
> 
> Thanks for help,
> 
> ced


Less simple, but open source (actually, I think it's Free):

http://www.nodeworks.com/asp/

-- 
- Bob Niederman http://bob-n.com
Fight UCITA! http://www.4cite.org, http://bob-n.com/ucita

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 11 Aug 2000 18:48:16 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> And I *ALWAYS* compile from source for the other stuff.

_everything_ else?  You actually bother to recompile ls, cat, bash, and
all the other common tools?

Why bother with a distribution at all, if you do that?

Somehow, I find that hard to believe.

-- David

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 11 Aug 2000 18:50:33 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Only sucky-crappy distros like RH, Debian, etc. , and so on you need to
> recompile for anything other than the generic stuff.

*sigh*

RedHat most certainly does release 586 and 686 kernel builds.  My PII
and PPro systems all run with an i686-built kernel.

> Even soundcard, SMP, pentium, ata/dma a bunch of scsi, GForce video,
> etc runs right out of the box without any messing around.

Congratulations.  Yours is not the only distribution that works "out of
the box".

But I'm surprised you are concerned with "messing around", since (as you
wrote in another post in this thread) you recompile everything anyway.

-- David

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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Red Hat installation: mount failed
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:21:08 -0230


Hello,

I had been running Red Hat for quite a long time when one day I decided
to reinstall. I deleted my Linux partitions with Linux fdisk. I also
deleted the PhoenixBIOS PHDISK partition with Linux fdisk. I rebooted
and deletd Windows with DOS fdisk. The I reinstalled Win98 after creating
an 800Mb FAT32 partition. This time I made no PHDISK partition and
tried to reinstall Linux on the rest of the hard drive. I tried several
times but both RHL 5.2 and 6.2 give me the same error after formatting
/dev/hda6 (after formatting /dev/hda7, /dev/hda8, /dev/hda9, /dev/hda2,
and /dev/hda5):

Error: Mount Failed: invalid argument

I really have no idea about what could be causing this but I suspect it
might be the old PHDISK partition. (???) Any ideas? Do I need to zero
the hard drive with dd before reintallting?

In one way I think it's fdisk's fault in the sense that it does not
reognize the partition table number 0x0a as a PHDISK partition and
it could well have messed up here.

Any feedback is very appreciated,

Thanks,

Neil Zanella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: font size in Netscape menu
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:51:57 GMT

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:20:55 +0200, Andrey Shipsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Does anyone know how to change the font size in the Netscape menu? 
>
>I am using Netscape 4.74. The font size in the menus and personal
>ToolBar is a bit large to me. I'd like to decrease it.
>
>Thanks for your replies.

Look for Netscape.ad on your system. Then find all the font stuff, and
paste that into Xdefaults/Xresources and modify as needed.

-- 
Hal B
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--

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From: Andrew Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Problem including <limits.h>
Date: 11 Aug 2000 14:53:13 -0700

Hi All-

I have a related problem. I have RH6.1, but I recently upgraded to
kernel 2.2.16, using the instructions from the HOWTO (as well as all
other recommended upgrades)

Now, when I try to compile anything complicated (e.g. the kernel itself,
or xemacs), I get error messages like

In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
                 from <whatever>
/usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory

that is, linux/errno.h doesn't exist (nor does any other linux/*.h that
various *.h files try to include)

I have tried getting the latest glibc libraries and headers, to no avail.

HELP!

Andrew

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Seward) writes:
> Right.  There's one in the kernel-headers RPM to which I set a
> symlink.  But I thought that I had seen somewhere on the kernel list
> that users should not have to have the kernel headers on their machine
> in order to compile normal programs (i.e. programs that don't interact
> directly with the kernel).  So, I'm wondering if I'm remembering this
> wrong or if there should be headers with glibc or if their should be
> another RPM.
> 
> Tony
> 
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, [iso-8859-1] Ren� M�ller Fonseca wrote:
> 
> > I think 'linux/limits.h' is generated when you configure and/or
> > compile the kernel.
> > 
> > Ren�
> > 
> > Tony Seward wrote:
> > > 
> > > When including <limits.h> I get the following traceback:
> <snip>
> > > 
> > > /usr/include/bits/local_lim.h says that it wants the kernel's
> > > limits.h.  IIR, this (requiring the kernel headers to compile user
> > > programs) is frowned upon by the kernel people.  Is this a problem
> > > with glibc, or the RPMs or me?
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Redhat-devel-list mailing list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list

-- 
Andrew Jaffe___________________________________________________________ 
Center for Particle Astrophysics                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
University of California, 301 LeConte Hall               (510) 642-7570
Berkeley, CA 94720                                        FAX    2-1756

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