Linux-Setup Digest #380, Volume #19 Fri, 11 Aug 00 22:13:11 EDT
Contents:
mySQL cannot use ("Joey Yum")
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Problem including <limits.h> (Paul Kimoto)
How to install from a cd without a boot floppy disk? ("Paolo De Laurentiis")
small install query (Gerald Young)
Re: Apache vs. IIS 5 (Mateo)
Re: compatibility (Frank McMurray)
Re: Problem including <limits.h> (Kaz Kylheku)
New Linux hardware advice sought (Len Philpot)
Re: mySQL cannot use (Hoang Thinh)
Grub with 2 hard drives ("Sheldon D. Stokes")
Re: Partitionless Install (Catherine Somerton)
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From: "Joey Yum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mySQL cannot use
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:21:48 +0800
Hello, I am a fresh hand on linux and I want to setup a web server with
mySQL. I have installed the RH 6.1 and also installed the kernel and module
of MYSQL without any error message. But now when I want to set my
administrator password with the "mysqladmin" command, it said command not
found. What can I do ? I even can't sure where is this file presents.
Joe
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,gnu.misc.discuss,alt.fan.warlord
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:42:31 GMT
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> John Hasler wrote:
> >
> > Andrew Halliwell writes to the blowfish:
> > > Are you thick, or what?
> >
> > You can only play a fish for so long before you have to either gaff it or
> > release it. He's given some good sport, but he's getting tired now. Let's
> > let him go.
>
> 00000000 596f 7520 6172 6520 6a75 7374 2064 656e
> 00000010 7969 6e67 2074 6865 2072 6561 6c69 7479
> 00000020 2e20 556e 7769 6c6c 696e 6720 746f 2061
> 00000030 6363 6570 7420 7468 6520 7472 7565 2e0a
voltaire would defend your right to say this -- with his life if need be!
> --
> - Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer
> user.
> (Have Fun with geek's culture: Part-1.)
> --
> - If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
> hands,
> lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
> time.
> But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which
> takes
> Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
> - The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a
> geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
> geek + vi | ~/emacs
> ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
> newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
> EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSsssss!!! :-|
> - My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female
> deer.) RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
> Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A
> needle pulling thread.)
> lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That
> will bring us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh...
> (c)Copyrighted by Alex / blowfish. 2000.
a masterpiece signature like this could use some ascii art.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Problem including <limits.h>
Date: 11 Aug 2000 19:47:49 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Text slightly reorganized.]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Jaffe wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Seward) writes:
>> I thought that I had seen somewhere on the kernel list
>> that users should not have to have the kernel headers on their machine
>> in order to compile normal programs (i.e. programs that don't interact
>> directly with the kernel). So, I'm wondering if I'm remembering this
>> wrong or if there should be headers with glibc or if their should be
>> another RPM.
Sometimes user programs need to have information agreeing with what the
kernel uses; thus the existence of <linux/*.h> and <asm/*.h> files. In
the old days, you (the programmer) would just use the files in
/usr/src/linux/include/linux and /usr/src/linux/include/asm for this
purpose; hence the traditional symbolic links from /usr/include to those
directories.
After a while, the kernel programmers became weary of maintaining header
files for user programs. Since glibc2, it has been possible to apply the
rule "do not directly include <linux/*.h> or <asm/*h> files in user
programs". The glibc header files do refer to them when necessary, though,
so they are included indirectly.
It is still a problem that the kernel programmers like to make changes to
the kernel header files and would rather not worry about the needs of those
who write user programs: it is rare that a user program cares about the
kind of details that may change in everyday kernel releases. Thus many
(although not all) argue that /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm
should not be symbolic links into the kernel-source-code-of-the-day, but
rather be regular directories containing headers from some stable kernel.
As far as I know, only Debian (and derivatives) does this; these files are
part of the libc development package.
> I have a related problem. I have RH6.1, but I recently upgraded to
> kernel 2.2.16, using the instructions from the HOWTO (as well as all
> other recommended upgrades)
>
> Now, when I try to compile anything complicated (e.g. the kernel itself,
> or xemacs), I get error messages like
>
> In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
> from <whatever>
> /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
>
> that is, linux/errno.h doesn't exist (nor does any other linux/*.h that
> various *.h files try to include)
>
> I have tried getting the latest glibc libraries and headers, to no avail.
For the sake of user programs, (as I wrote above) you probably need
symbolic links
/usr/include/linux -> /usr/src/linux/include/linux
/usr/include/asm -> /usr/src/linux/include/asm
This doesn't explain the problem with compiling the kernel, though; I think
that the gcc commands request the "current" #include files (those in the
kernel source tree itself) via the appropriate -I flag.
--
Paul Kimoto
Disclaimer: Other than explicit citations of URLs, hyperlinks appearing
in this article have been inserted without the permission of the author.
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From: "Paolo De Laurentiis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to install from a cd without a boot floppy disk?
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:19:23 +0200
Hello All.
I'm tryng to install linux red hat 6.2 on a IBM thinkpad 760CD.
I have win95 running from the first partition and I want to install linux on
the second one.
I have a bootable install cd of red hat 6.2, but my bios (already upgrade to
the latest version 1.3) does not allow the boot from the cd drive.
My notebook DO NOT permit to have both the floppy drive and the cd drive
inserted at the same time.
Note that I do not have enough room to copy the cd on the hard disk and make
the installation from there.
How can I install from the cd without a boot diskette?
Thank you in advance for any clue
Bye
Paolo
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From: Gerald Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: small install query
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 12:51:27 +1200
hello we would like to install linux with x and a browser on a network
of 386'3 in an educational centre.
can anyone help with suggestions for a distro to use that will fit on a
386 running as a dual boot with dos.
best wishes from new xealand
Gerald young
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From: Mateo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Apache vs. IIS 5
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:43:25 -0500
The real question is: Why would you want to? :)
Let Windows be the sole OS that has to be bitten by the ASP.
Bob Niederman wrote:
>
> ced wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Simple question: how to serve ASP pages with Apache?
> >
> > Thanks for help,
> >
> > ced
>
> Less simple, but open source (actually, I think it's Free):
>
> http://www.nodeworks.com/asp/
>
> --
> - Bob Niederman http://bob-n.com
> Fight UCITA! http://www.4cite.org, http://bob-n.com/ucita
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From: Frank McMurray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: compatibility
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:58:54 -0700
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> I have hp an pavillion 9694c. I can setup the nic card and assign it to
> eth0. But when I try to bring it up with ifconfig I get a "resources
> temporarily unavailable" error message. I ran rtl8139-diag on the board and
> it tells me the deviice does not have an irq assigned to it. According to
> what I've read so far I have to disable PNP and assigned the irq manually.
> The Phonenix Bios won't allow me to do this. Without an irq assigned , I
> cannot bringup the interface.
> >Frank McMurray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >I want to buy a machine that I know I'll be able to run Linux on.
> >I've given up trying to get the hp pavillion I have to work
>
> What kind of problems are you having with your pavillion? I have linux up
> and running on my old pavillion. Installed just fine with no trouble at
> all. In fact, it was the first machine I ever installed it on.
>
> Carl Thorpe
--
- Success is simply the ability to outrun failure -
Frank McMurray - Software Engineer
Cisco Systems - Aggregation BU
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I have hp an pavillion 9694c. I can setup the
nic card and assign it to eth0. But when I try to bring it up with
ifconfig I get a "resources temporarily unavailable" error message.
I ran rtl8139-diag on the board and it tells me the deviice does not have
an irq assigned to it. According to what I've read so far I have
to disable PNP and assigned the irq manually. The Phonenix Bios won't allow
me to do this. Without an irq assigned , I cannot bringup the interface.</blockquote>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>>Frank McMurray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message
<br>><a href="news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>...
<br>>I want to buy a machine that I know I'll be able to run Linux on.
<br>>I've given up trying to get the hp pavillion I have to work
<p>What kind of problems are you having with your pavillion? I have
linux up
<br>and running on my old pavillion. Installed just fine with no
trouble at
<br>all. In fact, it was the first machine I ever installed it on.
<p>Carl Thorpe</blockquote>
<pre>--
- Success is simply the ability to outrun failure
-
Frank McMurray - Software Engineer
Cisco Systems - Aggregation BU
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Problem including <limits.h>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:05:43 GMT
On 11 Aug 2000 14:53:13 -0700, Andrew Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In file included from /usr/include/errno.h:36,
> from <whatever>
>/usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory
You have broken /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm symbolic links.
Perhaps you have rooted your kernel source tree in a path other
than /usr/src/linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Len Philpot)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: New Linux hardware advice sought
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:05:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First off - I've been lurking for a few days, but haven't seen a
reference to a FAQ. If there is one I've missed, please excuse
this post and direct me there.
I'd like to get some advice (lots, really! :) ...
When I replace my current setup, I plan to make Linux the
primary, but not only, OS on the new system (most likely RH61 or
62, operating under KDE). I want to make sure I choose hardware
wisely and get 'stuff' that will work well with Linux. I've also
got some legacy stuff I'll want to attach if at all possible.
Here's my current system, presently running W95:
P5/133, combo PCI/ISA slots
Epson ActionLaser 1500
UMAX Astra 1200S SCSI scanner
ISA SCSI-1 adapter
(2) ISA NE2000 compatible NICs
Colorado 250 QIC80 tape drive
28.8 faxmodem
etc...
I realize I'll want/need to replace the NICs and SCSI adapter
with PCI cards, no huge deal. The only thing about the scanner is
that it's got the HP-style DB25 connection on the scanner and the
SCSI-1 connection on the adapter. Are there hybrid cables around
that will give me the DB25 on one end and SCSI-2/3 on the other?
Or can you even get SCSI-1 on PCI? I don't see anything else
being attached to the SCSI chain, BTW. Or, would I be better off
just getting a totally SCSI system with no IDE drives at all?
The tape drive is history and will stay with the old system. It's
floppy-connected and WAY too low capacity for serious use. I'll
do backups some other way, to be determined (hopefully,
networkable and schedulable). I'm currently using a cable modem
and will continue to do so, but I'll need a regular modem for
other things. Is a (PCI) internal or external modem preferred? I
know to stay away from Winmodems. I should have no problems with
the laser printer - In fact, I print to it right now from a
network-attached Linux box via SAMBA.
I know most of what I want to use will work fine, but I'd like to
avoid any well-known gotchas when I buy. Any rules of thumb,
specific hardware to avoid or seek out? So far, I've been
attracted to the Dell Dimension series, but I'm open to
alternatives. Huge multimedia capabilities are no major
attraction for me. Just basic sound with little dinky speakers
are fine with me.
For minimum desired basic hardware, I'd say:
* 700+ mHz
* 128+ MB RAM
* 20+ GB HD
* 17" monitor
* 10-baseT is fine for network, but I'll not go out of my way to
avoid 100mbs (this is a home network with other 10mbs hosts)
* 8MB video RAM (I WON'T be playing any games beyond 'solitaire'
types); I might well be running The Gimp, though.
All that said, I'd like to keep it at/under $2000. I _think_ I
can do this, but it might be challenging...
I need to contact Dell to find out their policy on OS media: Do
you get it, or just a recovery CD? Can I get Linux pre-installed
with a partition set aside for <my secondary OS>?, etc., etc. If
anyone knows of specific vendors who do / don't, please let me
know.
Is AMD a better bet than Intel? Do I need to avoid Cyrix? Are
there any known issues with non-Intel CPUs? With Intel, do I need
to stay away from Celerons?
Of course, there's the whole process of nailing down new Linux
software to (better) do what I'm currently doing under W95, but
one thing at a time... :)
Thanks for any and all advice.
-- Len Philpot -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) <--
----------------> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) <--
------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/ (web) <--
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Subject: Re: mySQL cannot use
From: Hoang Thinh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Aug 2000 11:37:11 +1000
"Joey Yum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hello, I am a fresh hand on linux and I want to setup a web server with
>mySQL. I have installed the RH 6.1 and also installed the kernel and module
>of MYSQL without any error message. But now when I want to set my
>administrator password with the "mysqladmin" command, it said command not
>found. What can I do ? I even can't sure where is this file presents.
>Joe
you may have to do ./mysqladmin instead.. and sometimes if you get permission
denied then you should chmod it as chmod 755 mysqladmin. For some strange
reasons, once I got permission denied when trying to use mysql.server stop
HTH.
Thinh
--
Nguyen Thai Hoang Thinh
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From: "Sheldon D. Stokes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Grub with 2 hard drives
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:39:31 -0600
I'm using mandrake 7.1 and a 40 gig and a 13 gig hard drive each
attached to a built in ata66 controller on my motherboard. Previously I
had my 40 gig drive partitioned up with windows 98 on the primary DOS
partiton, and 5 linux partitons after that. I would run grub and type:
find /boot/grub/stage1
and it would come back with (hd0,4)
I'd then type:
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)
and it would install just fine.
I got a great deal on the 13 gig drive and I have the 40 gig drive
dedicated to windoze, and the 13 gig is going to be all linux. I
installed mandrake 7.1 (for the built in ata66 support) and I can boot
into it jsut fine with the boot floppy. But I can't seem to get grub to
install. The 13 gig drive is all ext2 partitions.
I type: find /boot/grub/stage1
the floppy light comes on and nothing is returned but a prompt.
I then tried to force things using:
root (hdo,0) and it finds that this is a fat partition.
when I type: setup (hd0)
it says file not found.
I tried running grub without a floppy (grub --no-floppy) and I don't get
a floppy light then a do a "find" but it still doesn't find anything.
I tried a forced install using the "install" command without luck either.
I've been poking at the literature and searching dejanews and I haven't
found anyone describing a problem like this or a solution.
I'd love to hear what I'm doing wrong.
Thanks a bunch in advance.
Sheldon
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From: Catherine Somerton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Partitionless Install
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:59:39 GMT
This Email, received tonight appears to been sent to the wrong place.
Hopefully this problem can be corrected when the email is returned.
Harry Phillips wrote:
>
> On Wed, 03 May 2000 18:45:36 -0400, Samuel Irlapati
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I have installed RH6.2 on my computer. I have divided my hard drive into
> >partitions whic are
> >
> >/
> >/usr
> >/usr/local
> >/home
> >/opt
> >/swap
> >
> >I would like to able to convert all of the above partitons to one
> >partition which I think is an install feature in RH6.2. Can someone
> >please tell me how to do that without losing the data I already have on
> >it.
> >
> >The reason I want it in one huge partiton is so that I can install
> >progams like corel office2000 which now complains of insufficient space.
> >
>
> I don't understand you. You have several partitions that contain data.
> You want to keep all the data and place it in a merged partition.
>
> How does that free up any space? You still have the same size HDD and
> the same amount of data filling it = no extra space if you merged them
> together.
>
> They only way I can see to have more space in your situation:
> 1. Reduce the size of your swap partition by deleting it and createing
> a smaller one.
> 2. Delete some data.
> 3. Add another HDD and create a new partition.
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