Linux-Setup Digest #401, Volume #19              Mon, 14 Aug 00 22:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Problem with modem (Kiran Hegde)
  Before I install XFree 4.01..... (Michael Prowell)
  Re: Linux on AMD (Bob Hauck)
  3C905-TX NIC (Herb Stein)
  Re: Bootable cdrom (Frank Hahn)
  Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (Bill Vermillion)
  Re: Linux on AMD (Craig Bingman)
  Install Problems (B+Dcouple)
  Cant FDISK ("Fastpoint")
  Re: Partition Size Advice (Craig Bingman)
  Re: Before I install XFree 4.01..... ("Ingemar Lundin")
  Making Linux to recognize more than 64MB of RAM (Tan Kian Chye)
  Re: New Linux hardware advice sought ("Dennis J. Tuchler")
  Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD (Bill Vermillion)
  Re: pcmcia include file clash 2.4.0-test6 & pcmcia-3.1.19 (Alastair Neil)
  Re: nameserver, server slow when disconnected ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Kiran Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem with modem
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:21:01 -0400

I have installed Redhat Linux 6.0 on my PC which has a built-in modem.
The PC is configured to be a triple-boot system with Win 98, Win NT and
Linux.  The modem works fine on both Win 98 and Win NT.  It used to work
fine on Linux too when I installed the system a year ago.   But
recently, I have encountered a problem.  Whenever I try to use Kppp to
connect, I get a "Sorry, Modem is busy" message.  I know for certain
that no other program is using the modem.  I have rebooted the machine
several times but to no avail.
Has anybody come across this problem?  Any help in this matter would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks
-Kiran


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From: Michael Prowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Before I install XFree 4.01.....
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:12:54 GMT

Are there any issues I should know about first?

I am running Slackware 7.1
Linux 2.2.16
libc 6.1
KDE 1.1.2
XFree86 3.3.6

NVidia TNT video card

Does the Xinstall.sh script cause any problems?

I would like to try out the NVidia GL Drivers but don't want to mess up
a
system that has taken a bit of effort to get running properly.

Thanks.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:43:42 GMT

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:29:24 -0700, blowfish
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Bob Hauck wrote:
>> 

>> >Do you think Linux distro like Redhat really any better than Windoz?
>> 
>> Why are you here, instead of one of the advocacy groups where this crap
>> belongs?
>> 
>Ouch. A RedHead gets hurt.

I don't use Red Hat, and I'm tired of your trolling.

*PLONK*


-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein)
Subject: 3C905-TX NIC
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:55:31 GMT

I'm on a short fuse with this one and RH 6.0 doesn't like the 3C905-TX card.
Is there a simple answer? /etc/conf.modules shows a 3C59x at eth0.

--
Herb Stein
The Herb Stein Group
www.herbstein.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314 215-3584

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: Bootable cdrom
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:09:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:42:35 +0200, Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Now I boot my Linux-machine with a diskette, But I want to boot it from
>cdrom insted. My question is how do I make that cdrom.
>I would like to create a (bootable) ISO-file which I then move to my
>"cd-burner PC", shall I use the program mkisofs to make that, if so how ?
>
This may or may not help but it was taken from the Slackware 7.1
disk which is bootable (at least on my system).  This is from the
README file in the /.eltorito/ directory:

===========START===================================================

To make a bootable Slackware CD, get into the top level Slackware directory
(The one with ChangeLog.txt in it) and issue a command like this to build
the ISO image in /tmp:

mkisofs -o /tmp/slack.iso -R -V "Slackware Install" -v -a \
-T -d -D -N \
-b .eltorito/eltorito.img \
-c .eltorito/eltorito.boot \
-A "Slackware Linux" .

(this command will create the '.eltorito/eltorito.boot' boot record)

The use 'cdrecord' to burn it.  (See 'man cdrecord')

----
notes:
  If you want to master/burn the ISO image under Windows, you're on your own.

===========END=====================================================

Other than that, a search of http://www.deja.com may also prove beneficial.

Good luck.

-- 
Frank Hahn

Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:48:00 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tony Lawrence  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>However, I think the purchase could mean very good things
>for Caldera- they pick up a lot of engineering talent, and
>of course source code for things Linux currently doesn't
>have -

Well part of this is exactly why Love left Novell and founded
Caldera.  He believed in Unixware, and He couldn't get those who were
so enamored of the Novell way to use the Unixware material they acquired
from USL to even look at it, so he started Caldera.   That makes Calerda
one of the early players in the Linux world - and the plus is that
it was founded by those who believed in Unixware

Love left in 1994.  It was a year later, 1995, when Novell sold the
USL to SCO.  More than a few left Novell when the Netware side came
on so strong against Unixare.

This is just my opinion/speculation, but given Love's past like of
Unixware and the fight's he fought for it at Novell, I suspect he's
had his eye on CSO for a while. I don't know if he was part of the
group that casued Novell acquire USL in the first place, but I
wouldn't be surprised.   THere's more to Caldera than 'just another
Linux company'.

I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
web page that came up eariler today.   This has to be confusing for
all concerned.

>As to being broken, I have had contrary  ...

I had the impression from the other poster that he meant 'broke' in
terms of no money.  Ah - such is this language we call English.


-- 
Bill Vermillion -   bv @ wjv . com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Bingman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Date: 14 Aug 2000 21:23:55 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, blowfish  <..> wrote:
>You know what?
>
>Actually it's very easy to show a newbie how to build from source.

Your comment presumes that there is someone to show the newbie how to 
build from source.   In many cases, there isn't.  There certainly wasn't
anyone holding my hand when I first installed it, several years ago.

Craig 


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   <  New Primary E-Mail Address
http://fpage1.ba.best.com/~cbingman


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Subject: Install Problems
From: B+Dcouple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:18:56 -0700

I've been trying to install Linux/Caldera on a 486. It's been
getting stuck on
"Calibrating delay loop.." and goes no further.

any ideas?



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From: "Fastpoint" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cant FDISK
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:34:00 -0700

Greetings,
     I have RH6.2 installed on my intel box. I'm trying to convert to NT on
this disk. I boot from DOS floppy, and then try and run DOS fdisk but it
just won't work.
            Thanks in advance.
                            J. Terheun



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Bingman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Size Advice
Date: 14 Aug 2000 21:38:11 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Beardmore  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>><swap> 128MB
>
>What's the rationale for sizing swap partitions ?

>How sensible would it be on say a 512 meg ram Linux box to have a mere
>64 or 128 meg swap partition ? 

In the older kernel versions, swap partitions were limited to a useful
size of 128 meg.  They could be larger than that, but only 128 megs was
used.  One could, however, have multiple swap partitions.  In more recent
kernels, this is no longer an issue and swap partitions can be larger.
If you have multiple drives, in most cases it makes more sense to 
distribute smaller swap partitions to several drives than having one big
swap partition on one drive.

How large a swap partition needs to be depends entirely on what one
wants to do, so there is no universal rule for sizing them.  I set mine up
to give me about 1 GB of total memory space, because very infrequently,
I run applications that call for almost that much memory.

Having even a smallish swap partion makes sense in almost all cases.  When
you are running out of physical memory, the system should start to swap.
Even if you aren't paying much attention, you should notice that.  

Craig



-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   <  New Primary E-Mail Address
http://fpage1.ba.best.com/~cbingman


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From: "Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Before I install XFree 4.01.....
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:40:51 GMT

I've tried xfree 4.0 on SuSE 6.4 with a Nvidia Riva TNT 2, and i got a withe
screen for a couple of seconds before the logon sign showed, kind of
annoying if you ask me.

keep in mind that xfree 4.0 is still very much a beta product.

/IL

"Michael Prowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Are there any issues I should know about first?
>
> I am running Slackware 7.1
> Linux 2.2.16
> libc 6.1
> KDE 1.1.2
> XFree86 3.3.6
>
> NVidia TNT video card
>
> Does the Xinstall.sh script cause any problems?
>
> I would like to try out the NVidia GL Drivers but don't want to mess up
> a
> system that has taken a bit of effort to get running properly.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>



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From: Tan Kian Chye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Making Linux to recognize more than 64MB of RAM
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:32:21 +0800

Hi ,

I have this problem of making the OS to recognize more than 64MB of RAM
in the system. I have some research from the WWW and some say that I
should  append  "mem=128MB" into /etc/lilo.conf

I tried that and yet the system still only read 64MB of RAM (By looking
at the startup procedures). Can any one please let me know how to do it.
I'm using Mandrake Linux 7.0 on a machine running a AMD processor.


Many thanks in advance...






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From: "Dennis J. Tuchler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: New Linux hardware advice sought
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:43:32 GMT


Indellible Blue builds machines to order and loads Linux on them.  Try
the web site:

http://www.indelible-blue.com/ibapps/hardware.nsf/nav/home+page



Len Philpot wrote:

> First off - I've been lurking for a few days, but haven't seen a
> reference to a FAQ. If there is one I've missed, please excuse
> this post and direct me there.
>
> I'd like to get some advice (lots, really! :) ...
>
> When I replace my current setup, I plan to make Linux the
> primary, but not only, OS on the new system (most likely RH61 or
> 62, operating under KDE). I want to make sure I choose hardware
> wisely and get 'stuff' that will work well with Linux. I've also
> got some legacy stuff I'll want to attach if at all possible.
>
> Here's my current system, presently running W95:
>
> P5/133, combo PCI/ISA slots
> Epson ActionLaser 1500
> UMAX Astra 1200S SCSI scanner
> ISA SCSI-1 adapter
> (2) ISA NE2000 compatible NICs
> Colorado 250 QIC80 tape drive
> 28.8 faxmodem
> etc...
>
> I realize I'll want/need to replace the NICs and SCSI adapter
> with PCI cards, no huge deal. The only thing about the scanner is
> that it's got the HP-style DB25 connection on the scanner and the
> SCSI-1 connection on the adapter. Are there hybrid cables around
> that will give me the DB25 on one end and SCSI-2/3 on the other?
> Or can you even get SCSI-1 on PCI? I don't see anything else
> being attached to the SCSI chain, BTW. Or, would I be better off
> just getting a totally SCSI system with no IDE drives at all?
>
> The tape drive is history and will stay with the old system. It's
> floppy-connected and WAY too low capacity for serious use. I'll
> do backups some other way, to be determined (hopefully,
> networkable and schedulable). I'm currently using a cable modem
> and will continue to do so, but I'll need a regular modem for
> other things. Is a (PCI) internal or external modem preferred? I
> know to stay away from Winmodems. I should have no problems with
> the laser printer - In fact, I print to it right now from a
> network-attached Linux box via SAMBA.
>
> I know most of what I want to use will work fine, but I'd like to
> avoid any well-known gotchas when I buy. Any rules of thumb,
> specific hardware to avoid or seek out? So far, I've been
> attracted to the Dell Dimension series, but I'm open to
> alternatives. Huge multimedia capabilities are no major
> attraction for me. Just basic sound with little dinky speakers
> are fine with me.
>
> For minimum desired basic hardware, I'd say:
> * 700+ mHz
> * 128+ MB RAM
> * 20+ GB HD
> * 17" monitor
> * 10-baseT is fine for network, but I'll not go out of my way to
>   avoid 100mbs (this is a home network with other 10mbs hosts)
> * 8MB video RAM (I WON'T be playing any games beyond 'solitaire'
>   types); I might well be running The Gimp, though.
>
> All that said, I'd like to keep it at/under $2000. I _think_ I
> can do this, but it might be challenging...
>
> I need to contact Dell to find out their policy on OS media: Do
> you get it, or just a recovery CD? Can I get Linux pre-installed
> with a partition set aside for <my secondary OS>?, etc., etc. If
> anyone knows of specific vendors who do / don't, please let me
> know.
>
> Is AMD a better bet than Intel? Do I need to avoid Cyrix? Are
> there any known issues with non-Intel CPUs? With Intel, do I need
> to stay away from Celerons?
>
> Of course, there's the whole process of nailing down new Linux
> software to (better) do what I'm currently doing under W95, but
> one thing at a time...  :)
>
> Thanks for any and all advice.
>
>  -- Len Philpot -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]     (personal) <--
>  ----------------> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   (work) <--
>  ------ ><> -----> http://philpot.org/      (web) <--


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Caldera and SCO, was Linux on AMD
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:02:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Vermillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I just went to check something and see the SCO Web site has
>reverted to what it was last week instead of the SCO/Caldera
>web page that came up eariler today.   This has to be confusing for
>all concerned.

Ah.  The page I saw this AM as the default is now linked on the 
original home page as "New Web Sites".   That was a surprise when I
was trying to hunt for something and it had all changed.


-- 
Bill Vermillion -   bv @ wjv . com

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Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 02:03:27 +0100
From: Alastair Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: pcmcia include file clash 2.4.0-test6 & pcmcia-3.1.19

David Hinds wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.portable Alastair Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Hmm I just noticed that there is a problem building the pcmcia cardmgr
> : utilities with the  above mentioned sources.
> 
> Get the beta from projects.sourceforge.net in /pub/pcmcia-cs/NEW.
> 
> -- Dave

Same problem:

if [ "$CONFIG_PCMCIA" = "y" ] ; then
    # Use our kernel config, then kernel headers, then our headers
    CPPFLAGS="-I../include/static -I\$(LINUX)/include -I../include"
else
    # Use our kernel config and headers, then kernel headers
    CPPFLAGS="-I../include -I\$(LINUX)/include"
fi

Above is a part of the Configure script from the beta version. Now if I
have CONFIG_PCMCIA set in my kernel config it merrily sets up the
includes so that the kernel include file versions are hit first.  Thus
with my kernel sources 2.4.0-test6 I get an incorrect version.h and
goodness knows what else.  I tried compiling with the CPPFLAGS set to:

CPPFLAGS=-I../include/static -I../include -I$(LINUX)/include

and all seems to build ok.  I can see that if I don't have CONFIG_PCMCIA
set in my kernel config I would be ok - but why  would I be compiling
card services if I don't have PCMCIA support enabled?

Confused - 


--
Those who are mentally and emotionally healthy are those who have
learned when to say yes, when to say no and when to say whoopee. -- W.S.
Krabill
Alastair Neil

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: nameserver, server slow when disconnected
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 01:49:05 GMT

ok, two nights of research brought us the following:

(8) might be the version of 'man', our named reacts to changes in
named.boot, thus likely beeing somthing with 4.X.

most of the experts writing along this theme are not very sure whats
right, finally fighting for different opinions about the zones to set
up.

we did somthing half of them recommended, other half not. we installed
additional zone records for localhost and reverse 127.0.0.1, and a
reverse zone for our domain. additional we added some known machines to
our host file, and do a trick to copy an empty file root.cache.fake
over our root.cache when offline to avoid timeouts. this works, for the
moment, but we'd like to learn about the real way.

so where to find:
what to put in host file, exactly!,
what to put in network file, exactly!,
what to put in resolv.conf,specially when behind a firewall,
what to put in route.conf,specially when behind a firewall,
which zones to set up, which reverse,
where above to put loopback, localnet,
use or don't use cache,
which of above to change when firewalling,
how to configure the firewal to let outside secondary-dns get zone
transfers, how to configure dns for forwarding, .........

at least, if nobody knows, a checklist as started in many white papers,
'telnet localhost, ok if you can log in,
telnet 127.0.0.1, ok if you can log in,'
continued with points to check if wrong.

our named.boot now contains:
cache         .                     root.cache
primary   localhost                 pz/localhost
primary   127.in-adr.arpa           pz/localhost.rev
primary   ourdomain.de              pz/ourdomain.de
primary   ouripnumber.in.addr.arpa  pz/ourdomain.de.rev

in the first file giving name to ip mappings, in the *.rev file ip to
name mappings.

just besides, if one machine, with one ip number has multiple names
(www, mail, hostname, domain name) where to put them, how to guarantee
that reserve resolution brings the right name of the plenty?

which address to take as nameserver in resolv.conf? localhost or www-
addr? and so on, and so on, questions as in the windows world..........

frustrated and confused, Bernhard S. )-:, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8muu3s$2ep$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> ok, we'll come back to the others later, for the first we know we have
> named running, but don't know wich version.
> on the top of our man pages 'man named' it is written 'NAMED (8)', so
> one would think version is 8.
> In the DNS_HOWTO we find 'If the named man page talks about (at the
very
> end, the FILES section) named.conf you have bind 8, if it talks about
> named.boot you have bind 4.' our manpages talk about named.boot, so
one
> could think it's named version 4.
> From the setup of the box and configuration of the nameserver i
remember
> something that he did not work according to some settings in
named.boot,
> so that some settings in the zone records must be set to default
values
> before the zone was accepted. named.boot exists on our box, named.conf
> is an empty file.
> I find it useless to work any further before i know wich version we
are
> running in real. since the box bears functions in a working
> productive environment i can not just get bind 8 and give it a try,
> first i have to check the basics and decide what to do.
>
> Any suggestions?? TIA Berhard S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Wed, 09 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >we have a configuring problem with a suse 6.3 libox, wich is the
> > >internet-gateway and firewal for a small lan, permanent internet
> access.
> > >It also is the nameserver and mailserver for our domain,
secondlevel
> > >domain with fixed official ip.
> > >it shows up that all access to the server is very slow when it has
no
> > >access to the internet. during setup there was a similar problem, a
> > >consultant said something about name resolution by root dns server
> and
> > >reverse resolution. the prob disappeared when our domain finally
was
> > >registered with the denic.
> > >i do not understand why a server has to do dns lookups and reverse
> > >lookups to perform simple local tasks, also i don't know exactly
what
> > >reverse resolution is, how it is implemented and configured.
> >
> > Linux wants a hostname (or second opinion) for any IP connecting to
it
> > (for security reasons) even if that name is fictional and provided
by
> > Linux itself (/etc/hosts or local DNS).
> >
> > If you don't know what reverse lookup is, maybe you should read the
> > DNS_HOWTO and get that working locally.  My LAN DNS is fully
> functional
> > for forward and reverse lookup of local boxes whether I am online or
> > offline (since I only connect with ppp when necessary).
> >
> > >isn't it possible to configure the nameserver in a way that he
> > >- does everything local that can be done local,
> > >- works in the same manner as a isolated server when being isolated
> from
> > >the internet,
> > >- is capable serving all functions when conected to the web?
> >
> > Generally it should be able to work on its own for zones it is
> configured
> > for, but I am not sure what it does about secondary functions when
it
> > cannot connect to the master.  If that is a problem, you could
always
> set
> > up a different configuration file to use for standalone operation if
> > offline for an extended period.
> >
> > >can a caching nameserver help anything, can we configured it
> additional
> > >to the other?
> >
> > If you have DNS, you already have a caching nameserver.  It is just
> that a
> > plain caching nameserver is not set as an authority for any other
> zones.
> > A caching nameserver would not do you any good at all if you are not
> > connected and the cache has expired.
> >
> > >we don not want to cut the line for fun, but had real problems when
> the
> > >router on telco side was broken and we not only missed web access,
> but
> > >took 30 minutes to read the folder list into our imap clients,
which
> is
> > >similar to no mail access.
> > >
> > >Thanks, Bernhard S. <test1test>@deja.com
> >
> > --
> > David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
> > http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> > http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
> >
> >
>
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> Before you buy.
>


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