Linux-Setup Digest #423, Volume #19 Fri, 18 Aug 00 09:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Gnome or KDE (Rasputin)
Re: Computer hangs when switching console or starting X ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: installing lilo after setup (Tom Pfeifer)
vertical line on X screen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
starting on NIS & DNS ("b.misra")
Re: Sound Config? (Glitch)
Re: MACH64, VESA, Quake (Matan Ziv-Av)
Re: Apache vs. IIS 5 ("Paul Wollner")
Installing Linux on a 40 Gb Maxtor UDMA66 ("Ian Nicholls")
Re: LRP vs. squid ipchains socks (Anthony)
Re: 3C905-TX NIC ("Jesus M. Salvo Jr.")
remote telnet logins ("Andreas Frisch")
Parallel ZIP drive problems (John Wilkinson)
Re: 3C905-TX NIC (Kenneth 'Redhead' Nielsen)
Re: can't reboot or halt! (Kenneth 'Redhead' Nielsen)
Re: Installing Linux on a 40 Gb Maxtor UDMA66 (Henri Fallon)
Re: Runlevel 1/S and passwords. (Lew Pitcher)
Re: mail server...... ("Brian W. Pascal")
RedHat 6.0 on a HP LC2000 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Cottalorda)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Gnome or KDE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:17:32 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Jim Richardson> wrote:
>On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 01:58:20 GMT,
> Tim Hanson, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> brought forth the following words...:
>
>>"Donal K. Fellows" wrote:
>>>
>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>> The Ghost In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> >>>> You had ones? All we had was zeros.
>>> >>> You were lucky.
>>> >>> We had to bang two rocks together to get the zeros...
>>> >> I had to walk 10 miles, uphill, in the snow just to get the rocks!
>>>
>>> You young whippersnappers had it easy! We had to quarry the rocks out
>>> of the ground at the bottom of a frozen swamp using only our noses.
>>> In the middle of a blizzard. And we were glad of it! You've never
>>> had it so good...
>>>
>>> > Both ways? :-)
>>>
>>> All three of them!
>>>
>>> Donal.
>>
>>Oh yeah? When we had done all that we had to put it all into a card
>>reader and write about it, using vi!!
>
>you were lucky, we didn't have vi, all we had was iii :)
Text editors? Pah!
Round these parts, we edit the inodes directly on the disk
with bar magnets.
--
Rasputin.
Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Computer hangs when switching console or starting X
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:07:55 GMT
In article <Pine.Debi.4.21.0008172025520.2697-100000@digriz>,
Alexander Clouter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > The box is a Celeron 500 128Mb RAM 20Gb drive with an ATI Rage 128
GL
> > AGP graphics card.
> > NT is installed on the first 7.5Gb of the drive and linux on the
rest.
> >
> > The odd thing is that a co-worker has Mandrake installed on an
identical
> > box and it works just fine.
> >
> > Thoughts any one? Broken hardware? Maybe I should try another
machine?
> > I tried an older kernel (2.2.16) but the result was the same.
> >
> I would be surprised if this was the case.
>
> This sounds like a badly setup X windows system. Did you ever get it
to
> work? Have you been manually playing with /etc/X11/XF86Config? Run
> xf86config and carefully select what you need, try slightly different
> options. I would imagine your Chipset options are wrong, however it
could
> be anything.
>
> I'm 99% sure the problem lies in /etc/X11/XF86Config. You could
uninstall
> the XFree86 deb packages and then reinstall them if you get
> desperate. How? at the lilo prompt type 'linux single'.
>
> Alex
>
>
Yes I did, almost, get it to work after the install. X started fine but
I could not switch to any virtual console (ctrl-alt-F?). After a reboot
the system froze when X started.
Tried to remove and reinstall the xfree86 debs but no luck...
I don't think this is a X problem since the setup froze a couple of
times. And it stops when I'm switching virtual consoles.
My guess is that it's something with the kernel. 2.0 kernels work (tried
debian-2.1 rescue and tomsrtbt-1.7.205), 2.2 kernels don't work and
yesterday I compiled 2.4.0-test6 and it works.
I can get a 2.2 kernel to boot into text mode but switching console
freezes the system.
Sebastian
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing lilo after setup
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:04:08 GMT
This HOWTO covers how to do it manually:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html
Tom
Andrew Chapman wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I installed Mandrake recently, and skipped the lilo installation during
> setup (I've been using a boot floppy).
>
> Now, I'd like to get linux happening from the NT boot loader, so I need
> LILO installed on the linux partition (not MBR!), but I'm not sure how
> to do this after the main installation.
>
> One of those dead simple things you just can't find docs for...
>
> Thanks.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: vertical line on X screen
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Aug 2000 12:06:54 +0200
Hi all!
On my X screen, I get a vertical stippled line. This line appears
even if I start the server without any arguments at all, i.e. without
loading any clients or window managers.
This is not visible in low-resolution modes, but appears at 1024x768,
1152x864, and 1280x1024. It is at different positions: as the
resolution increases, it moves to the right and upward, and space
between stipples increases.
The line is not just a display artifact, but actually appears in video
memory: If I make a screenshot, it is present in the screenshot file.
If part of the screen with the line scrolls, or if I move a window
across it, all pixels that come in contact with the line get "tainted"
and stay violet until redrawn by the application.
I am running on a new K6-2 500 with a new Matrox MGA G400 board, using
XFree86 3.3.6 and the utah-glx drivers. If I comment out the Modules
section from XF86Config, thus not loading the utah-glx drivers but
using the SVGA driver, nothing changes. The system is continuously
on, and the problem first appeared after two days running in high-res
mode.
I am a bit stuck at this point and would appreciate any help.
TIA,
Marc Andre
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From: "b.misra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.os.linux.admin,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,
Subject: starting on NIS & DNS
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:25:04 +0400
hi ..
i'll like to learn about setting up DNS & NIS servers . i'm using
RH6.0 & i have 6 linux m/c in my place
with one m/c connected to internet using PPP.
could someone give a starting point. I'll like to involved more in
practical use than learning
theoretical concepts.I 've a sound knowledge in networking & i've setup
clients for these services.
thanking u in advance.
BM
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Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:25:54 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Config?
try ALSA
Don Belmore wrote:
>
> Well, it seems that I have solved my 'directory problem' already,
> now I have to solve the sound problem.
>
> Ok, I run sndconfig and it runs fine, plays the sample.au(but it
> does sound quite muffled).
>
> Specs: SB Pro clone card (yes it does work fine with many other
> programs, including my DOS CD-player one). RedHat 5.2 (kernel
> 2.0.36-0.7). I have tried both the SB setting and SB Pro settings and it
> sounds the same.
>
> io=0x220
> irq=7
> dma=1
>
> --
> Dragon Don
>
> The Dragon's Claw - http://www.hwcn.org/~ad095/Claw.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matan Ziv-Av)
Subject: Re: MACH64, VESA, Quake
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:57:37 GMT
On 18 Aug 2000 01:04:00 GMT, J Bland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> My X server is running fine, ta. It's SVGAlib and VESA support on Mach64
> >> that I'm wondering about.
> >
> >The start of this thread did not reach my newsserver.
> >
> >If your Mach64 is recent, it should work with svgalib, with the
> >rage driver. The vesa driver of svgalib usually does not work with
> >Mach64 cards.
>
> Yes, it does work. Otherwise things like squake and lsdoom etc wouldn't
> work. I was simply wondering as to the support of anything more than ModeX 8
> (in Quake) with SVGALib. Mach64 appears to be deprecated with SVGALib, which
> is a shame as I can't get anything more than VGA in any console application
> I've tried.
As I said, newer mach64 should work with the rage driver. You can test if your
card is supported by using svgalib program vgatest, or by trying to set any
high resolution mode in quake. If you have a Mach64 card bewer than Mach64CT,
and it does not work in high res, please contact me by email.
--
Matan Ziv-Av. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Paul Wollner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Apache vs. IIS 5
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:14:24 +0200
If you want ASP on linux, look into Chilli ASP
"ishpeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8neir9$7pq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> PHP! USE PHP, MORTAL!
>
> In article <399435b9$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "ced" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Simple question: how to serve ASP pages with Apache?
> >
> > Thanks for help,
> >
> > ced
> >
> >
>
> --
> I want my lemmrick, damnit!
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: "Ian Nicholls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Linux on a 40 Gb Maxtor UDMA66
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:22:22 +0100
Installing Redhat 6.1 on a 20 GB+ UDMA 66 HDD
Are the any problems setting this up as we have tried numerous times and
it. Installs fine (!?!) and then when we reboot it says try running E2FSCK
and will not boot.
What is E2FSCK and where can I get it?
Hard drives tried
40Gb Maxtor UDMA66
2x20GB IBM UDMA66
Any ideas welcome as this has to be ready Monday weekend or not!
Cheers Ian
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From: Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.security,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.security.general
Subject: Re: LRP vs. squid ipchains socks
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:30:39 +0800
In article <N1Gl5.84390$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Darren and
Marla Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to set up Linux as a router and a firewall when I ran across
> this Linux Router Project (LRP). I am new to this, so I do not know if
> it is as effective as using Squid/ipchains/SOCKS to do the same thing.
> Has anyone used this LRP and tested it to know whether or not it is
> worth my time, or should I just configure a Linux box with the said apps
> running instead?
>
>
> darren
I prefer ipchains+socks5+squid since I have exactly that. Any packet
filter, there may be a chance to by-pass it.
Things like LRP is easier to configure, if you read their manual. So
long as you keep your firewall running the minimal, your firewall should
be very tight (no telnet or ftp please).
With LRP, you will have to move DNS, Squid or any other servers to another
machine.
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From: "Jesus M. Salvo Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3C905-TX NIC
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:48:17 +0000
Herb,
Im using one at the office and had the same problem. My conclusion was
that:
* It uses the PROM to get the IP address (dual-booting with NT, the 3com
utility has the PROM enabled)
* pump (DHCP client) in linux does not work with such cards that uses
PROM to get its IP address
* Do not use DHCP on linux. Instead, assign a fixed IP address
* However, when dual-booting to NT, NT says "DHCP"
* Periodically check that the fixed-IP address on linux is the same as
the DHCP-assigned IP address on NT.
Unless someone (there must be someone out there) knows how to make DHCP
and the NIC's PROM behave properly in linux, this is the only way I can
make the 3com card to work.
John
Herb Stein wrote:
>
> I'm on a short fuse with this one and RH 6.0 doesn't like the 3C905-TX card.
> Is there a simple answer? /etc/conf.modules shows a 3C59x at eth0.
>
> --
> Herb Stein
> The Herb Stein Group
> www.herbstein.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 314 215-3584
--
Homepage: http://homepages.tig.com.au/~jmsalvo/
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From: "Andreas Frisch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: remote telnet logins
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:38:36 +0200
when i'm trying to connect through lan to my suse 6.4 server, it takes more
than one minute until the login screen appears.
as soon as i'm logged in, everything has normal speed and when i do telnet
localhost on the server, it's connecting at once, too.
are there maybe any security switches that shall prevent random logins or
stuff like that? i really need to connect to the server very often and so i
want to connect more quickly.
can anybody help me?
andreas frisch from germany
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From: John Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Parallel ZIP drive problems
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:39:20 GMT
Hi all,
I have an Iomega parallel ZIP drive and I can rum modprobe ppa and then
I cna mount the drive and all is OK.
If I reboot then Linux does not recognise the drive until I rerun
modprobe again.
What do I need to do to stop having to rerun modprobe.
Regards,
John
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From: Kenneth 'Redhead' Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3C905-TX NIC
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:59:59 +0200
I use the 3com 3c905-TX-C with the prom boot on, and its on a dhcp net,
thres no problems with that.. i told linux to use the 3c59x module instead
of the 3c9x but appart from that, its setup to use dhcp and theres no
problems with that..
Kenneth
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Jesus M. Salvo Jr. wrote:
> Herb,
>
> Im using one at the office and had the same problem. My conclusion was
> that:
>
> * It uses the PROM to get the IP address (dual-booting with NT, the 3com
> utility has the PROM enabled)
> * pump (DHCP client) in linux does not work with such cards that uses
> PROM to get its IP address
> * Do not use DHCP on linux. Instead, assign a fixed IP address
> * However, when dual-booting to NT, NT says "DHCP"
> * Periodically check that the fixed-IP address on linux is the same as
> the DHCP-assigned IP address on NT.
>
> Unless someone (there must be someone out there) knows how to make DHCP
> and the NIC's PROM behave properly in linux, this is the only way I can
> make the 3com card to work.
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> Herb Stein wrote:
> >
> > I'm on a short fuse with this one and RH 6.0 doesn't like the 3C905-TX card.
> > Is there a simple answer? /etc/conf.modules shows a 3C59x at eth0.
> >
> > --
> > Herb Stein
> > The Herb Stein Group
> > www.herbstein.com
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 314 215-3584
>
> --
> Homepage: http://homepages.tig.com.au/~jmsalvo/
>
---[ e ]--------- - - - - -
---[ "Freedom is not worth having if it doesn't include
---[ the freedom to make mistakes."
---[ -Gandhi
- - - - - ------------[ http://www.redhead.dk ]---
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From: Kenneth 'Redhead' Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't reboot or halt!
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:03:29 +0200
On 18 Aug 2000, Henri Fallon wrote:
Change teh settings in the /etc/security/consol.apps
where the files halt, shutdown, reboot, poweroff are located chec if
theres a setting:
USER=root
in those files, if there is, then its only root who is allowed to use
those programs, if you want all users to activate teh programs, tehn
remove that line from the files
Kenneth
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 Murray Eisenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >After upgrading some packages -- including pam -- to a Red Hat 6.2 Gnome
> >workstation installation, as an ordinary user I cannot execute "shutdown
> >-r" or "shutdown -h" from a console command line. And if I select "Log
> >out" from the Gnome taskbar, the log out dialog no longer presents the
> >choices of rebooting or shutting down.
>
> Is it really a bad thing that no normal user can shutdown the workstation ?
> Otherwise, check the user gmc runs as, and maybe put a suid on shutdwon for
> that group.
>
> --
> henri
>
---[ e ]--------- - - - - -
---[ "Freedom is not worth having if it doesn't include
---[ the freedom to make mistakes."
---[ -Gandhi
- - - - - ------------[ http://www.redhead.dk ]---
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Henri Fallon)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on a 40 Gb Maxtor UDMA66
Date: 18 Aug 2000 12:15:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:22:22 +0100, Ian Nicholls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What is E2FSCK and where can I get it?
E2FSCK stands for ext2 file system check
it's a scandisk utility, included in quite all distributions.
The problem may be you have UDMA66.
So try to disable it. Maybe boot from a floppy.
--
henri
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Runlevel 1/S and passwords.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:15:23 GMT
On 16 Aug 2000 20:46:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dusty) wrote:
>Hello. I want the system to ask for a password when I go into single user mode.
>After analyzing the setup scripts for init 1, I found the line init S. I know
>that puts tse system into single user mode, and I want the system to ask for
>the root password before proceeding. How can I do it?
Look through your /etc/inittab for the line that starts the singleuser
shell on /dev/console. It'll look something like:
r1:1:respawn:/bin/bash </dev/console >/dev/console 2>/dev/console
Comment out this line, and replace it with one that starts the sulogin
program on /dev/console. The new line will look something like:
co:s:respawn:/bin/sulogin /dev/console
Of course, you have to have sulogin installed, and you should read
man 8 sulogin first.
That's all you need
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: "Brian W. Pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail server......
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:05:18 GMT
Rod,
Thanks for taking the time to get back to me. Here's the story.....
1. Have a virtual website with an ISP with 6 mail accounts for remote
workers of mine. Workers have their own ISP's.
2. I put in a commercial ASDL line here at the office and want to switch the
website and mail services to the Linux box here. Doing mail first. This was
done so that, at the present time, the remote workers are now getting mail
off my Linux box.
3. But they're still using the smtp from their various ISP's to get mail to
me. Would it be better if my box was the smtp sender as well or does it
really matter?
Brian
"Rod Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> In article <hs%m5.66503$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Brian W. Pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Trying to grasp a few things. I transferred my ISP's mail accounts to my
own
> > Linux box at the office and set up mail accounts successfully.
>
> I can think of at least two ways in which this statement can be
> interpreted:
>
> 1) You've been using an ISP to host a domain (call it example.com), and
> your ISP had been hosting several e-mail accounts ([EMAIL PROTECTED],
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.). You've now changed the MX record in
> example.com's DNS servers to point to an in-house system on which you
> have equivalent accounts (bob, carol, etc.). This works.
> 2) You're using the fetchmail program (or something similar) to transfer
> e-mail from one or more e-mail accounts at an ISP to a Linux system's
> local mail queue. (This isn't really "transferring mail ACCOUNTS" [my
> emphasis]; it's "transferring mail.")
>
> > But what
> > about smtp? People who have accounts on my Linux box are still using
their
> > own ISP's smtp to send mail to us.
>
> Interpreted literally, this means that [EMAIL PROTECTED], with his account
> on your Linux server, has configured his e-mail client software (pine,
> XCmail, whatever) to send mail via some off-site ISP (let's call it
> bigisp.net). Thus, when [EMAIL PROTECTED] e-mails [EMAIL PROTECTED], the
> mail passes through the mail server for bigisp.net. Given either
> interpretation of your first sentence, this should work, but it is
> inefficient. A better way is to simply configure the local mail client
> to send using the local mail server. This should work, too, but it's
> conceivable that your local mail server is misconfigured so that it
> doesn't work.
>
> Somehow, though, I suspect this isn't what you meant. If so, please
> clarify.
>
> > Don't I need smtp on my own box for their
> > outgoing mail? Or is it that it's normal for their own ISP to do this.
>
> Outgoing mail doesn't need a local SMTP mail server. After all, Windows
> boxes send mail via ISPs' mail servers all the time, without local SMTP
> mail servers. If you're running a Linux box that supports its own set of
> accounts and local mail delivery, though, it's possible to use your own
> local SMTP server (usually Sendmail, but sometimes Postfix, Exim, Qmail,
> or something else). Whether you SHOULD do this depends on your exact
> circumstances. Given the nature of your questions, I suspect that if
> what you're doing now works, you shouldn't mess with it. Running a mail
> server requires a certain amount of expertise. You don't need to be a
> guru to do it, but it's easy to misconfigure a mail server so that it's
> an open relay for spam or causes other problems.
>
> You might do well to post with some additional information, such as:
>
> 1) What sort of Internet connection do you have -- dialup, broadband,
> fixed IP address or static IP address, etc.?
> 2) How many local accounts do you have on your Linux box?
> 3) Are you using an external ISP to host your e-mail accounts? If so,
> how are you currently retrieving that mail? (Are you using Fetchmail,
> individual users' mail programs, etc?)
> 4) What distribution and mail server are you using?
> 5) Do you own your own domain name?
>
> The answers to these questions will at least serve as a starting point
> for better specific advice.
>
> --
> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.rodsbooks.com
> Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
> .
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= Cottalorda
Subject: RedHat 6.0 on a HP LC2000
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:01:48 +0200
Hi all,
I've just bought a HP Netserver LC2000 on which I plan to install RedHat
6.0
The Problem is that during the installation, the install program did not
see neither my SCSI Adapter ncr53c8xx nor the AMI MegaRaid Adapter
I can install anything.
I've tried with the RedHat6.1, but no way too.
May be it's a hardware problem because I've manage to set up a HP LH3
with those two cards (ncr53c8xx and AMI Megaraid) without any problem.
Do you know if this server as incompatibilities with Linux ??
Thanks in advance.
S�bastien
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