Linux-Setup Digest #438, Volume #19 Sun, 20 Aug 00 21:13:11 EDT
Contents:
caddy-fying hard drives: later also easy? ("Dan Jacobson")
MBR [Re: I will unplug windows drive before installing mandrake] ("Dan Jacobson")
Re: CD writer setup question (Carlos Moreno)
Monitor blinks when running X (Clive Bostock)
Free ISP's servicing Northern California? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: remove the start up programs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Problems loading Mandrake Linux ("Stephen Banner")
Any upgrade for Intel i810 chipset? ("Rafael Zabar")
Re: How do I get Num Lock on automatically in X? (Fabian Gebhardt)
Re: How do I get Num Lock on automatically in X? (Fabian Gebhardt)
Re: Setting up a RAM disk? (Marc Andre Selig)
Re: Monitor blinks when running X ("Philo")
Re: Linux Bargain at CompUSA! (Rod Smith)
Re: Setting up a RAM disk? (Carlos Moreno)
Re: CD writer setup question ("Gene Heskett")
Re: No sound - kmpg, kmidi | Yes sound - kscd | Why? (Florian Schmidt)
How to run WM on remote display? ("Jon Davis")
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: caddy-fying hard drives: later also easy?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:04:40 +0800
Can one at any time caddy-fy their hard drive[s], e.g., I'm hot to install Linux, and
don't want to make the trip to town first to
buy the caddy... can I install now and caddy-fy later? [I guess: yes; but are there
fine points?]
"Bradley A. Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ????? news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dan;
> Before you start opening the case etc. to switch hard drives, what i did was get a
>hard disk caddy and an extra tray.
> When i play with windows, i stick that disk in, and vice-versa for linux. If you
>start playing with switching drives in the bios,
> win 98 had a problem with drive letters changing for the cd and cdrw that i have,
>and it locked up a couple times. now i just
> quickly swap drives, the bios stays on autodetect, and it works. plus the drive
>caddys aren't expensive ~$10.00. just
> be sure to power down before changing!
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: MBR [Re: I will unplug windows drive before installing mandrake]
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 05:57:29 +0800
"Chem-R-Us" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ????? news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dan Jacobson wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I'm about to install Mandrake 7.0 + Chinese Language Extensions 0.9
> > I will unplug my windows 15GB drive during installation so as not to have any
>accidents [IDE primary]
> > I will put Mandrake on IDE secondary 26GB drive and intend to boot each time into
>either via a BIOS choice. Perhaps someone
might
> > elaborate on what choices to make during this process.
>
> This is really a lot of hardware manipulation to go through to alleviate
> some unfounded fears.
Indeed it would involve me running over to hit the DEL key in time each time I turned
on the power ... ugh.
> If windows is on the primary master (/dev/hda), then just make sure that
> Linux does not touch the /dev/hda device. This will leave windows <<**
> intact. If Linux is to be installed on primary slave (/dev/hdb), just
> make sure that all partitions and so forth only occur on /dev/hdb.
>
> The only thing you will need to concern yourself with is getting the
> bootloader installed. Normally it will reside in the Master Boot Record
> of /dev/hda, and will allow you to choose which system you want to boot <<**
> into (winders or Linux).
But this then involves messing with the contents of /dev/hda, where I thought the
whole drive could be left untouched ... which is
what was just [**] warned about, and I hear horror stories about.
Is the MBR a one-per-machine thing, or can /dev/hda have one (and when the BIOS boot
sequence is "C, A" it will go into windows as
usual)... but at the same time /dev/hdb can have a MBR too?, and that's where I can
put the lilo choice sequence, and then just
configure the BIOS for boot sequence "D, A" [the A is just from the choices my bios
gives me, not relevant to the current
discussion] and then the BIOS will upon power-up then go into the LILO choice list?
[which I can then simply configure any way I
want e.g., asking me which OS etc.]? If for some reason I'm not satisfied with
linux, I can just reconfigure BIOS to "C,A" and
then go back to the usual windows startup? Is all the above OK? I note that my BIOS
gives me choices of booting from C, D, E, F
hard drives... this must mean that it is just using these names as an easier way of
saying IDE primary master, slave; secondary
master, slave; and not that it is aware of what windows partitions etc. one has
currently made, or does it? e.g., my C: and E: are
on the same physical disk...
In [whatever distribution]'s installation sequence, when it talks about the MBR, will
it allow me to pick which physical disk
drive's MBR to alter, or do they just assume IDE primary==hda... [assuming each drive
can have their own MBR?]?
Anyways I'm imagining that being all into non-violence, etc., Linux will allow me to
leave the entire windows physical drive
unscathed... at the same time according to its freedom-of-choice philosophy, it will
allow me via lilo on [MBR of?] /dev/hdb do a '5
seconds and will start linux' query setup, etc.
Sorry to be so longwinded, but you see us fearful new recruits see somewhat
conflicting advice [you have to admit I spotted one
(**)], not to criticize your helpfulness, which I'm very thankful for [only 2 news and
1 mail response], but stuff which seems so
natural for those who've already installed, seems so worryful for those of us who are
just about to. Thanks. Sorry for bad
formatting... this will improve one I get back to GNUS which I used to use 8 years ago.
> See `man lilo' to understand how to setup the bootloader.
Hmmm... must apparently install my Linux diskette before being able to see this
manpage for my distibution[?]
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From: Carlos Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD writer setup question
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:46:19 -0400
Kyle Parfrey wrote:
>
> I think there is a marker for an easy to use program that automatically
> takes your ide device and configs all to make your system think its scsi.
> Hint hint.
And that's exactly what you achieve when recompiling the kernel -- you
enable SCSI emulation; the IDE devices are now seen as SCSI devices,
so the software (xcdroast, in this case) that deals with SCSI only,
will work without telling the difference. (well, it didn't work for
me, but then again, it could have been some problem when I installed
it or configured it...)
Carlos
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From: Clive Bostock <cbostock@=antispamremove=btinternet.com>
Subject: Monitor blinks when running X
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:56:09 +0100
I wonder if anyone out there can help me. I have recently installed
Mandrake 7.0 on my new PC:
Athlon 600
ASUS K7M Motherboard
G400 Graphics card (32Mb)
Mitsubishi Pro 710 monitor
The problem is that that periodically, possibly anywhere between 30
seconds to several minutes, my screen blinks. That is it goes blank
for about a second after which the desktop display returns. I have
tried upgrading to 7.1 of Mandrake, but that did not help. I am
running KDE, but the same problem also manifests itself when I switch
to Gnome. I did notice that when I try to configure my graphics card,
specifying 32M, that when I go back in to configure it again it seems
to reset it to a 16M G400, though I don't know whether this is an
issue.
This is a really anoying bug that's driving me up the wall so any help
would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Clive.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Free ISP's servicing Northern California?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:06:17 GMT
Any free ISP's servicing Northern California?
I read the list at:
http://www.freedomlist.com/global/USA.php3
but did not find one in Northern Calif.
freewwweb.com was the old one, but it is gone now.
Any suggestions?
If no free ones, how about a suggestion for
a low cost one that supports linux?
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: remove the start up programs
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:08:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rewur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> How to remove the start up programs ( like File Manger. ) that starts
up
> automatically after Linux is loaded.
> Please Help
>
> -Rewur
>
>
If you mean the programs that automaticly loads after you've either
logged in from X or just started X from command prompt ?
Just set the "save desktop settings" option when you logout.
The warning if you've logged in as root won't go away.
/Fredrik
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Before you buy.
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From: "Stephen Banner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems loading Mandrake Linux
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:36:12 GMT
Ok, I had removed the primary hard drive and then tried to install the Linuk
Mandrake 7.0 onto the secondary slave disc drive.
Once the installation was completed and re-booted the screen filled up with
loads of characters endlessly.
Tried loading from floppy but this only returned the kernel panic error. It
must now only be my system set up that is causing the conflict, where do I
start to look, or is it best to clean the hard drive of its contents then
re-install??
Stephen Banner
"Stephen Banner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:1WVn5.4373$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello
>
> I wonder if anyone can help.
>
> I am getting frustrated and sure someone can help me overcome this
> situation.
>
> I have the following set-up:
> CPU - Pentium III 500
> hard drive Windows 98se
> hard drive 2 - here Mandrake 7.0 was installed
> cd rom drive
> cd re-write drive
>
> During installation the following was shown
> /boot (hdd1)
> /(hdd5)
> /linux swap hdd6
> /home hdd7
>
> After the making the boot disk and lilo install to rebooting the system
the
> screen showed loads of l1 0101010....endlessly
> and so on .
>
> From ms-dos I did fdisk/mbr
>
> I cannot use the floppy to boot into my secondary drive where Linux is
> installed as the error:-
> "VFS cannot open root device 16:41
> kernel panic VFS unable to mount rot fs on 16:41"
>
> I have tried loadlin by taking a copy of the vmlinuz-2.2....etc and
renaming
> it to bzimage and then running:-
> c:\linux\loadlin bzimage root=/dev/hdd5
> This also gives me an error same as above for kernel panic.
> I am very new to the Linux environment but very satisfactory with ms-dos
and
> windows. Is there any way to change the settings of the floppy/drive to
> correctly boot into the Linux environment?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Stephen Banner
>
>
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From: "Rafael Zabar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any upgrade for Intel i810 chipset?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:30:38 +0700
I don't have a card but I ignored the "configure card". It worked, anyway.
Any suggestions? Thank you.
Lemuel
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From: Fabian Gebhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How do I get Num Lock on automatically in X?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:45:05 +0200
My distribution (SuSE) turns the led off by default.
But there is an option for the keyboard driver (/etc/rc.config:
KBD_NUMLOCK="yes") which turns numlock on.
This works on every console, but in X numlock becomes disabled and back to the
console it's enabled.
I have an idea:
In /etc/rc.config you can set the tty for KBD_NUMLOCK and KBD_CAPSLOCK in
KBD_TTY. This is tty1-tty6 by default. But X runs in tty7. Perhaps thats why
numlock is disabled in X.
Try KBD_TTY="tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 tty6 tty7"
or KBD_TTY="" (for all tty's)
Give it a try and let me know if it works.
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E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Fabian Gebhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How do I get Num Lock on automatically in X?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:45:05 +0200
My distribution (SuSE) turns the led off by default.
But there is an option for the keyboard driver (/etc/rc.config:
KBD_NUMLOCK="yes") which turns numlock on.
This works on every console, but in X numlock becomes disabled and back to the
console it's enabled.
I have an idea:
In /etc/rc.config you can set the tty for KBD_NUMLOCK and KBD_CAPSLOCK in
KBD_TTY. This is tty1-tty6 by default. But X runs in tty7. Perhaps thats why
numlock is disabled in X.
Try KBD_TTY="tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 tty6 tty7"
or KBD_TTY="" (for all tty's)
Give it a try and let me know if it works.
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CU, Fabian Gebhardt
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Homepage: http://www.ki.tng.de/~gebhardt
Schul-Seite: http://www.ebg.org
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Subject: Re: Setting up a RAM disk?
From: Marc Andre Selig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 21 Aug 2000 00:56:51 +0200
Carlos Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm clueless about setting up a ramdisk on Linux (RedHat 6.2,
> in case it makes any difference).
If you really want to do this, try something like this:
# dd if=/dev/zero bs=1k count=2048 of=/dev/ram0
# mke2fs -m 0 /dev/ram0 2048
# mkdir /mnt/ramdisk
# mount /dev/ram0 /mnt/ramdisk
This will create a 2 MB ramdisk and mount it as /mnt/ramdisk, provided
that RAM disk support is compiled into your kernel.
Documentation for this can be found in the kernel documentation, as
ramdisk.txt.
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Monitor blinks when running X
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 19:01:48 -0500
try running in the command prompt mode (not terminal) just to eliminate the
possiblity of a bad monitor (yes i know you said *new*)
then once you are sure your monitor is ok...try your xconfig at minimum
default settings and if all is ok, increase incrimentally from there.
Philo
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux Bargain at CompUSA!
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:27:58 GMT
In article <8np1k3$mn7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) writes:
> DW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 20 Aug 2000 00:30:33 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
>>wrote:
>>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, DW wrote:
>>>> Looks like I am gonna get rid of my WinLinux and get Corel loaded next
>>>> week. Anyone have any comments on Corel Linux ?
>>>
>>>Obsolete version?
>>>http://linux.corel.com/products/linux_os/index.htm
>>
>>Yeah, but still a GOOD buy!
>
> I wouldn't really say so, to be honest; obsolescence is a major pain.
> Corel's current distribution is based on Debian 2.1, which is a year and
> a half old (an eternity in this business, at least judging from all the
> people complaining about how long 2.2 was taking :)).
Well, the CURRENT version of Corel Linux is 1.2, which Corel claims is
based on Debian 2.2 -- but given that Corel 1.2 was released 1 day
after Debian 2.2, it's likely that Corel used a prerelease version of
Debian 2.2 as the model. Anyhow, I just downloaded Corel 1.2 this
weekend and tried it. Unfortunately, it suffers from Arrogantitis --
the thing thinks it knows what's best for my computer, and insists on
"correcting" my "mistakes" (like my installation of System Commander as
a primary boot loader and my adjusting the XF86Config file so I can get
a decent refresh rate on my expensive 19" monitor). When I say it
"corrects" my "mistakes," I mean it does so REPEATEDLY -- with every
reboot, it changes the XF86Config file, etc., to undo my changes. I'm
sure these problems can be corrected, but there's no obvious way to do
it from the GUI configuration tools, and after several reboots to test
the thing, I started having eerie Windows flashbacks, so I'm ditching
THAT test installation. For all Corel Linux 1.0's problems, it didn't
try so hard to override my "mistakes."
Somebody else mentioned Corel's security flaws. I found Corel 1.0 to be
VERY insecure in its default configuration. 1.2 gives several options
that should affect this matter, but I didn't get around to testing them
(in part because the thing refused to work with my Linksys Tulip-clone
NIC). 1.2 still starts up with *NO* root or user password set by
default, though, which is completely inexcusable, IMHO.
Overall, I'm unimpressed. I'll be saying so on my Linux distribution
review page (http://www.rodsbooks.com/distribs/) as soon as I can get
around to updating it -- probably within a week.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: Carlos Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up a RAM disk?
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:35:20 -0400
Marc Andre Selig wrote:
>
> Carlos Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I'm clueless about setting up a ramdisk on Linux (RedHat 6.2,
> > in case it makes any difference).
>
> If you really want to do this, try something like this:
Well, at least I really want to give it a try and see if it makes
a (big) difference. :-)
> # dd if=/dev/zero bs=1k count=2048 of=/dev/ram0
> # mke2fs -m 0 /dev/ram0 2048
> # mkdir /mnt/ramdisk
> # mount /dev/ram0 /mnt/ramdisk
>
> This will create a 2 MB ramdisk and mount it as /mnt/ramdisk, provided
> that RAM disk support is compiled into your kernel.
>
> Documentation for this can be found in the kernel documentation, as
> ramdisk.txt.
Great!!! Thanks a lot for the info and the pointer!
Carlos
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Date: 20 Aug 2000 20:2:17 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD writer setup question
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Kyle Parfrey;
KP> Thanks, I don't think I will mess with kernel, its just that
KP> windows is now refusing to boot and the win cd burning was very
KP> unstable anyhow. It seems a bit strange that linux won't support
KP> an IDE cd-writer.
It works just fine, but you MUST compile in the ide-scsi emulation. To
say that its not supported when you are unwilling to "install the
drivers" that it takes to make it work is grossly unfair to linux.
Conversely, your windows box also has to get and install the drivers
before it can use it.
KP> I think there is a marker for an easy to use program that
KP> automatically takes your ide device and configs all to make your
KP> system think its scsi. Hint hint.
KP> Kyle
KP> Carlos Moreno wrote:
>> As far as I remember, yes, you would need to recompile your kernel,
>> unless you have a SCSI CD-Writer.
>>
>>
>> I hope xcdroast improves in the near future, or that some
>> replacements that do work appear... (well, maybe xcdroast does
>> work fine, but if you have to be a Linux guru to make it work, then
>> I don't consider that "working fine"...)
It is NOT XCDRoasts problem. I've burnt a dozen or more cd's with it
now, and once I was properly configured, its a (slow, my burner only
runs 2x) piece of cake.
Cheers, Gene
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Florian Schmidt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: No sound - kmpg, kmidi | Yes sound - kscd | Why?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 00:48:07 GMT
On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:57:13 +0000, dpace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ron Gaw wrote:
>> try to play anything using kmpg, kmidi, kmedia or x11amp, I get NO
>> SOUND. I've checked to see if the kernel modules are loaded, and they
>Maybe the /dev/ devices for midi, et cetera, are missing.
>Look for a script which creates these devices.
does the player programs actually report about not being able to
playback, or are they just quite? maybe they are muted by the mixer.
execute kmx and look..
--
Florian Schmidt
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From: "Jon Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: How to run WM on remote display?
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:05:17 GMT
I'm a newbie to Linux. I have Hummingbird Exceed and I have successfully
managed to get X programs running on my Linux computer to display on my
Windows 2000 computer.
Is there a way to run the whole HELIX GNOME window manager / desktop and
display it on the Windows 2000 computer? I've exported the DISPLAY property
to the IP of my Windows 2000 computer but when I run "startx" even from a
telnet session it loads up the WM on the Linux computer's display.
Thanks for any help
Jon
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