Linux-Setup Digest #473, Volume #19 Fri, 25 Aug 00 13:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: a (Tommy =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F6gren?=)
Re: TkRat Leaving Mail System Internal Message (Karl B)
NEED SOME HELP! ("Alex")
Re: mirroring an hd (-ljl-)
Pentium III 600+Red Hat Linux 6.1=Math bug, I Need help ("Oliver Martinez")
Re: problem with phprc4 (Kevin Maloney)
hfs+ support under linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: a (The Contact)
i810 audio ("Servicios de proyectos")
Re: mirroring an hd (The Contact)
Newbie and ncr53c8xx (ld)
Re: mirroring an hd (hac)
Re: laptop and linux (Kevin Croxen)
help with Redhat and Raid ("Peter de B. Harrington")
how to install XF86 4.0.1 to a Slackware 7.1 system ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Associate File Types? ("Steve Brennan")
Re: Firewall for Linux ("Steve Brennan")
Re: Debian Potato 1.2 root floppy problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Witch Linux version/setup should I choose ? ("M.Voncken")
bot floppy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
do I have to reboot to change network settings (Peter Bismuti)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
pcmcia install: Failed to connect to server (Mandrake 7.1)
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From: Tommy =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sj=F6gren?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: a
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:18:24 +0200
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl B)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: TkRat Leaving Mail System Internal Message
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:54:38 +0200
Cory Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not
a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system
software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be
re-created with the data reset to initial values.
Is ther something wrong with this explanation?
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From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEED SOME HELP!
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:54:36 +0400
I would be very grateful to receive some help concerning the next questions
on Linux slackware installation:
I have prepared the hard drive and have successfully installed Linux 3.1
slackware on it.
The Linux installation program was able to see CD-ROM during the
installation process (I have installed it from CD-ROM).
After finished with the installation, I set up the LILO program to start
either Windows 98 or Linux, depending on what I chose. Then I tried to go to
configuratoin section and set up my hardware. I gave the system all the
specifications of my mouse and CD-ROM, but after the rebooting - it would
not find nerither CD-ROM nor the mouse. It looks strange, because it saw the
CD-ROM during the installation.
What should I do to make the CD-ROM and mouse work properly!!!???
I configured the XF86Config file for the X Windows system, and after I type
startx and pres @Enter@ it gives the graphically lookoing interface with the
light blue screen background and the small window in the left upper corner
of the screeen. And nothing works then, even the mouse pointer doesn't move
at all!? But when I press ctrl+alt+backspace - it quits the this module!
What should I do to fix this stuff!!!???
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!
ALEXEI
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: mirroring an hd
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:54:45 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hac wrote:
...
> Aren't there problems concerning the System.map-file?
System.map is a kernel thing, see:
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/oops-tracing.txt
Don't see where it enters into the picture of moving files.
Now lilo's 'map' needs to be updated when the kernel and
certain other files used by lilo are altered in any way.
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From: "Oliver Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pentium III 600+Red Hat Linux 6.1=Math bug, I Need help
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:09:50 -0400
I can't install Red Hat Linux 6.1 on my Pentium III 600 Mhz.
I got the message: Trying to reset 387 coprocessor.
Anyone can help me?
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From: Kevin Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with phprc4
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:29:21 GMT
Hey again!
> when i start the apache with the newly compiled php4rc1, i get:
> Cannot load /usr/local/apache/libexec/libphp4.so into server:
> libmysqlclient.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
> directory
I have no idea why this error occurred, but I fixed it by adding
/usr/local/lib/mysql to my /etc/ld.so.conf file, and executing ldconfig as
root.
I assume that my latest php compile somehow 'lost' it's knowledge of where
this library is when it made libphp4.so.
Hope this helps.
km
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: hfs+ support under linux
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 13:29:05 GMT
i have an iMac (on which i run the mac os on an hfs+ formatted drive). i
also have a hitachi portable on which i run linux. i would like to be
able to transfer files between them (specifically mount the hfs+ drive
on my linux comp.). is there support yet for hfs+? is there someone
working on hfs+ support? and what are the reasons this is not happening
(if it's not)?
thanks-
owen washburn
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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: a
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:02:13 GMT
Novice wrote:
> a
Does it hurt?
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The Contact
"Knowledge should be free; appliance not."
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From: "Servicios de proyectos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: i810 audio
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:08:39 -0400
Hi:
I install the kernel 2.2.16-3, that include a module i810_audio.o, but I
don't find some like a HOWTO for to do that work.
hints please about of documentacion for this.
Thanks.
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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: mirroring an hd
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:10:08 GMT
-ljl- wrote:
> System.map is a kernel thing, see:
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/oops-tracing.txt
>
> Don't see where it enters into the picture of moving files.
My fault. I thought System.map was a sort of database where locations
were saved (from where till where the kernel is situated on the HD, f.i.
from block 15468 to block 54862). Therefor I assumed moving things
(which changes the block-locations) would've made the System.map-file
corrupt. After reading the oops-tracing.txt and the klogd-man-page, I
now know better.
> Now lilo's 'map' needs to be updated when the kernel and
> certain other files used by lilo are altered in any way.
Yes. Well, you made me a happy man (I now know a little more of Linux
:�) Thx!
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The Contact
"Knowledge should be free; appliance not."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ld)
Subject: Newbie and ncr53c8xx
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:27:29 GMT
Ok, I can't get past the "Loading aic7xxx driver" screen.
Here's what I have:
1) Adaptec 2940U2w SCSI card
1) Western Digital 9100
1) SCSI containment hot-swap box....
So the card plugs into this backboard that the drives plug into -
hence no cable actually goes to the hard drives...
Originally i had 2 cards with one WD drive attached, but that failed
so i wanted to get down to the basics....
Here's the results I get on the Alt-F3 screen
* probing buses
* finished probing uses
* found suggesstion of aic7xxx
* found aic7xxx device
* found suggesstion of ncr53c8xx
* found ncr53c8xx device
* found suggesstion of ncr53c8xx
* found ncr53c8xx device
* found devices justProbe is 0
* going to insmod aic7xxx.o (path is null)
On the ALT-F4 screen i get
<4> SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid7) timed out - trying harder
<4> SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0
this repeats over and over and over again...
Any suggesstions?
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From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: mirroring an hd
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:27:49 GMT
The Contact wrote:
>
>
> Aren't there problems concerning the System.map-file? If cpio just
> copies everything to a non-identical-partitioned,
> non-identically-geometried HD, then the kernel itself will complain,
> doesn't it? And rerunning lilo wouldn't help, because you just can't get
> to running lilo...
>
Lilo is the exception. It does keep track of absolute sectors. Rerun
lilo.
There are some details you need to pay attention to to make that work,
but it's not really very hard.
If you've booted from a rescue floppy/CD-ROM, you've mounted your hard
disk partitions in different places than they usually go. And you may
have put your new filesystems in different partitions on the new
disk. That means that you need to adjust the lilo.conf file to point
to the right location for the kernel, and that you need to tell lilo
where to find lilo.conf. This is also complicated if you've attached
your new disk as /dev/hdc, for example, but will change it to /dev/hda
once you've moved everything. It's simpler if you attach the new
drive where it will live, and move the old drive to a temporary
location.
I use a small /boot partition. Running from the rescue disk, there's
nothing to prevent me from mounting the new /boot as /boot. Other
partitions would be mounted in temporary locations for copying. So,
after copying the old filesystems to the new filesystems, I edit the
new /etc files that need to be changed. For example, I'll edit
/mnt/newroot/etc/fstab to reflect the partitions that the new
filesystems will live on. And I'll copy /mnt/newroot/etc/lilo.conf to
/etc/lilo.conf, and edit it if needed - probably not. Patch the
kernel with rdev, if needed. Run /sbin/lilo. It will find the blocks
used by the kernel on your /boot partition and write them to the MBR
on the first hard disk, assuming that's how you've configured lilo.
Another approach is to edit /etc/fstab (if needed), and boot from
floppy. Run lilo. If you used the same partitioning scheme, the same
floppy will work. If you've moved root or swap, you should use rdev
to patch the floppy, while running from the rescue disk. I'm talking
about a floppy with a copy of your normal kernel, created with "cp
/boot/vmlinuz /dev/fd0". I use a monolythic kernel, which keeps
things simple. If you use initrd, that may add additional steps.
If you understand how lilo works, this is not hard to do. It's harder
to describe than to do.
This also works for Windows 98 and NT partitions. Just edit the
boot.ini file if you've moved NT to a different partition.
--
Howard Christeller Irvine, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Subject: Re: laptop and linux
Date: 25 Aug 2000 14:24:12 GMT
All laptops have quirks that will bite you in installing and configuring
Linux on them for the first time. So do a bit of research first. Check out
your particular model in the Linux on Laptops page:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
so that you can benefit from how others solved Linux-related difficulties
on your particular laptop model.
--Kevin
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sami k mossessian wrote:
>HI, I want to install linux on a 133MH/32MB with 1.5G hard drive and 56 k
>modem laptop but is this ok? will I have any problem?
>
>thanks
>sam
>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: "Peter de B. Harrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with Redhat and Raid
Reply-To: "Peter de B. Harrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:18:12 GMT
Hi:
We are attempting to install Linux Redhat 6.2 on a Dell Web server. We have
installed the device driver from Dell, but there is not much documentation
that we could find to assist us in configuring the drivers.
We are having difficulty configuring the firmware to recognize the Dell Perc
2-Si Raid Controller (which actually is Adaptec). We would like to
configuring the RAID for mirroring (RAID 0). Has anyone succeeded? Are
there step by step instructions on the web or that could be sent by e-mail?
Please e-mail me a copy of any reply posts and I will forward them to the
people doing the install.
Thanks,
Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: how to install XF86 4.0.1 to a Slackware 7.1 system
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:40:36 GMT
i'm installing a minimalist system based on Slackware 7.1.
it doesn't have a CD-rom drive,
but have a network card,
so i've installed Package A from floppy,
and installed tcpip1.tgz, tcpip2.tgz,
to set up my network.
how then do i install XF86?
can pkgtool help?
which is the minimal set of packages to download?
hard disk space is a luxury i do not have...
(i tried following the instructions from xfree86.org,
but i ended up missing some files,
so wondering what is the slackware specific way.)
thanks in advance.
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From: "Steve Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Associate File Types?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:36:38 -0500
Hello,
I have a problem that I can't seem to figure out. I have loaded the latest
Citrix ICA client on my Linux box and it works great. I want to be able to
pass it an .ICA file through a web script and have it start and execute the
ICA file. I can do this on my M$ boxen but cant seem to get the association
correct in Liunx. Is this handled in Netscape? I've tried setting a MIME
(?) type like "application/x-ica" in Netscape but it still doesnt work.
When I pass the ICA file it brings up the typical open/save dialog box.
Any help would be appreciated.
Best,
Steve
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From: "Steve Brennan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Firewall for Linux
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:38:46 -0500
I use CyberNet's NetMax FireWall product. It costs approx $50 but it is
worth it in tech support; their's is great!
-Steve
"MH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jason Ng wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to install a firewall on my Linux box. Does anyone have any
> > suggestions?
> > I am a newbie for this and I want to know which one is good...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jason
>
> I've been using Seattle Firewall, aka "Seawall". Seems to do the job.
> It's GPL and it's easy to set up. You can get it at:
>
> http://seawall.sourceforge.net/
>
> --
> "The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal."
>
> --Aristotle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Debian Potato 1.2 root floppy problem
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:41:36 GMT
More information: the root image in question, still current AFAIK, is:
debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/2.2.16-2000-07-14/images-1.20/root.bin
-rw-rw-r-- 1 troup debadmin 1228800 Jul 5 14:18 root.bin
cf2ef71f4a9e90c2f6013ba3b2257ed2 ./images-1.200i/root.bin
Closer inspection (with od) reveals that the reason it doesn't work is
that it consists entirely of nulls. Nevertheless, it has the md5sum
listed above, which is from:
debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/md5sums.txt
Looks like there was a gap in the testing procedures. Maybe they
don't have any machines old enough to boot from 1.2M drives :-).
So the question remains: where to find a fixed Potato 1.2M i386
root image? (I don't have CVS.)
-David West dhw @ gamgee . acad . emich . edu
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From: "M.Voncken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Witch Linux version/setup should I choose ?
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:48:23 GMT
Witch Linux version and setup should I choose.
p100 32MB
I'd like to do do the following with this machine:
1-internetsharing(DHCP) + firewall
2-webserver (low traffic/test)
-apache
-php
-mySQL
Thanks,
Martijn.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bot floppy
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:56:05 GMT
I may have asked this in this forum before; if so I'm sorry. I boot my
system off a floppy created from bzisk when I upgraded my kernel to
2.2.16. I need some way to list the contents so I can create or update
lilo.conf to add parameters to enable my ide CDR/RW to emulate SCSI. I
have overwritten the boot floppy created from the linux original
installation.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti)
Subject: do I have to reboot to change network settings
Date: 25 Aug 2000 16:06:47 GMT
Right now I boot my machine, run netconf, and then reboot, is there a faster way?
I tried booting into single user, running netconf, and then running init 3, but this
does not work.
Thx
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 09:08:14 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o5knh$t53$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> : How portable would this version of it be?
>
> : <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
> : <!DOCTYPE RST "http://localhost/fubar.dtd>
> : <RST>
> : <R ID="0" >
> : <F0>A</F0>
> : <F1>q20e3</F1>
> : <F2>e</F2>
> : <F3>lsm2</F3>
> : <F4>928l</F4>
> : <F5>pqke</F5>
> : <F6>2ksnfui</F6>
> : <F7>mpqw395hg</F6>
> : <F7>2</F7>
> : <F8>5</F8>
> : </R>
> : </RST>
>
> Equally, if it is valid (i.e., has a DTD, and conforms to it).
>
> But it does tremendously violate the *spirit* of XML. XML is supposed
> to be human-readable.
>
> And you do get portability advantages even if you don't fully
> understand the data. The structure and data are represented together.
> If you can reverse-engineer (determine the meaning of) all the tags
> except F2 and F6, then you can make confident use of these, even if in
> the next version of the format, they add a couple more fields (element
> types) and take away one or two of the ones you do understand.
>
> In a binary format, you'd always be at risk of problems due to
> variable field length. That can't happen with XML.
If a developer wanted the braging right of using XML for their data file
format but they still wanted to lock user in to using just their programs to
handle those files they could come up with something this bad. Consider
that the data in the fields are not just encoded but also ecrypted as my
example was offered to illustrate. Consider that the key or keys and the
encryption algorithm are not made public. Consider that with each release
of the software it can read the files created with all prior versions, and
each release uses a different key and maybe a slightly modified algorithm
for the encrytion to write their files. Consider that the contents of the
DTD could be no more portable than the data files. Consider that the first
two lines of these files could be for form only so that they can claim that
the data file format is in XML and that the URL is useless. Did you notice
the address of the URL in the DOCTYPE line?
Do you think that violating the spirit of XML would bother anyone who wanted
to claim that their programs use XML for their data files but still want to
lock the files into their programs. An ASCII based file format standard is
not the panacea of portability that you seem to assume that it is. There
have been many other ASCII based portable file formats and do you know who
many were servicable have not been abused and misused enough by enough
developers to prevent them from being in reality the univeral file formats
that were envisioned for them? Not one! Everyone of them have been
distorted and misused enough that generated non-portable portable files.
XML won't be any different.
Binary file formats are not any less portable than ASCII file formats so
long as the formats are documented and no attempt to encrypt them is made by
the developers. ASCII file formats are not any more portable thas binary
file format so long as the formats are not documented or he developers have
used encoding amd/or encryption, even if they don't admit to it.
Are you familiar with the PFA format of Postscipt Type-1 fonts? They are in
ASCII alone but the bulk of the files are encoded and encrypted and were
private to Abode until Bitstream learn how to decrypt and decode the
contents.
Every few years all old ideas the seemed to once be good are rediscovered
all over again they are renamed and reimplemented and they become the craze,
then they fail for the same old reasons as they did before. What I can not
understand is why so many people can't seems to remember what happened just
a few years before and keep gettin suckered in with the same promises, under
a new name, over and over again.
For it is the doom of men that they forget--Merlin in Excaliber.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misk
Subject: pcmcia install: Failed to connect to server (Mandrake 7.1)
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:53:25 GMT
i hooked up my laptop to the ethernet network and want to do a pcmcia
install. i use the mandrake 7.1 pcmcia boot floppy, the penguin image
comes up, i choose "HTTP" as install media, i choose "DHCP" as IP, enter
the download site and directory, and that's as far as i get. the
program writes "Retrieving base/mdkinst_stage2.gz..." and after 15
minutes (!) it finally decides that it does not work: "Unable to
retrieve the second stage ramdisk: Failed to connect to server".
the same problem occurs when choosing "FTP" instead of "HTTP" and
choosing an ftp server instead of an http server. in fact, the same
problem (and the same 15 minute wait!) occurs when i type a wrong ftp
directory. the network seems to be working though: when i mistype the
server name, i get an error message within seconds.
any ideas?
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