Linux-Setup Digest #484, Volume #19              Sat, 26 Aug 00 21:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Bug in dynamic linker (Charles Ju)
  Re: modem reccomendations ("Tony Neville")
  Re: stupid simple question, please help ("ne...")
  Re: help with recompiling the kernel (Tom Pfeifer)
  Re: Stupid Question - 1 ("Tony Neville")
  Re: Help for newbie stuck with linux boot floppy (Tom Pfeifer)
  Re: basic, very basic (Tom Pfeifer)
  WIndows 98 & Linux ("VISHAL chadha")
  Re: suche x.400 MTA (Steen Suder)
  Re: WIndows 98 & Linux (Steen Suder)
  Re: kernel 2.2.16: no sound or parport "unresolved symbols" error. (Steen Suder)
  httpd hangs at boot ("ortius")
  modem i/o address conflict ("DoDO_DeViL(R)")
  Re: Stupid Question - 1 (PlzBeMine)
  Compile problem with errno.h ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Win 2000 installation prevents Linux boot? (Eric Laffoon)

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Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:18:50 -0400
From: Charles Ju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Bug in dynamic linker

Hi,
I have the following error when I tried to run an executable:

$ magrt -n mag1
BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-version.c: 210: _dl_check_map_versions:
Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed!
$

Can someone tell me how to fix this?

Regards,




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From: "Tony Neville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem reccomendations
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:36:34 +1200

Go for a good, solid external modem that attaches to a comms port.
1) Every OS supports them.
2) They can be used on non-pc clones, too.
3) The LEDs on the front panel allow one to quickly determine if
tranfers have stalled or are proceeding at reasonable pace, or act
as a reminder that the computer is still online which is why you're not
receiving any phone calls.
4)  When the lights are switched off, gives the room that extra
"starship enterprise" ambience.

"Mike Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o8lpf$adhhv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> If memory serves me correctly I am running an ISA now, I may be wrong.
> Everything I hear points at using a external modem for the best performance
> and compatiblity, but I have yet to make a decision.
>
> As far as Be goes I like it enough so far but have not used it enough to
> make a decision one way or the other. One thing for sure is that the install
> and setup is essentially mindless when compared tio a linux install.
>
> Hit install and you are off and running and it installs to a native Win
> partition. A good choice for newbs I think. But at the same time a fairly
> poweerful OS with a lot of nice add-ons.
>
> ~M~







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From: "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stupid simple question, please help
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:44:28 GMT

On Aug 26, 2000 at 18:39, Dan eloquently wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>
>I have:
>1) redhat 6.2 (just installed) on a hard drive
>2) win2000 (w/NTFS) installed on another hard drive
>
>I know how to configure LILO to do dual boot.
>
>But during the installation, I believe by default, the kernel is not
>configure to read NTFS.
>
>The question is, can I just load a module for that or do I have to
>recompile the kernel.
With RH, you probably have to load the module. Look in 
/lib/modules/<kernel version>/fs/ for the ntfs module.

>either way, how would I do it?
modprobe ntfs

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From: Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with recompiling the kernel
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:46:06 GMT

Your compile procedure looks OK to me.

The first thing I think of is that you did not compile the module(s) you
need for your network cards when you compiled 2.2.16. When you execute
"make modules_install", it copies the modules you compiled to
/lib/modules/2.2.XX. 

Since 2.2.12 works, have you compared the contents of
/lib/modules/2.2.16/net and /lib/modules/2.2.12/net? If 2.2.12 was your
original kernel, it could be that the NIC module(s) are there, but were
not compiled for 2.2.16, or the other kernels you tried.

This is assuming you are using modules for your NIC drivers, as opposed
to compiling them directly into the kernel. Just a suggestion as a place
to start looking if you haven't already.

Tom

Hung Ngoc Lai wrote:
> 
> Hello to all the Linux Gurus out there:
> 
> First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to all of you for helping with
> learning Linux.  I am progressing nicely.  For the past wee, I have been able
> to implementing IPCHAINS and IP Masquerading with success.  However,
> I have a problem that I am hoping someone out there can help me.
> 
> I try to recompile the kernel (I am currently RH version 6.1 with kernel
> version 2.2.12-20.  I would like to upgrade the kernel to version 2.2.16
> because I have been told that version 2.2.16 will fix some security issues.
> Anyhow, I have been successfully recompile the kernel doing the following
> tasks:
> 
> gzunip linux-2.2.16.tar.gz
> tar linux-2.2.16.tar
> in the /usr/src/linux directory, perform:  make mrproper
> in the /usr/src/linux directory, perform:  make menuconfig
> make dep
> make clean
> make modules
> make modules_install
> make bzImage
> 
> Everything seems OK at this point.  Next, I copy the bzImage to the /boot
> directory and rename it to vmlinuz-2.2.16.  Follow that, I also edit (append)
> the following  lines to the /etc/lilo.conf file:
> 
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16
> label=new-kernel
> read-only
> root=/dev/hda1
> (I tried to use linuxconf; however, when I used /dev/hda1, it tells me that
> this is an invalid partition.  Therefore, I can only edit the /etc/lilo.conf file).
> I have absolutely no idea why.
> 
> After that, I perform /sbin/lilo and reboot.  After the boot: appears, I type
> new-kernel, the problem is that the system boots up to a new kernel;
> however, I lose all my network connectivity (I have 3 NICs card on this
> linux machine).  At this point, I have to no choice but to reboot the
> machine and roll back to my old kernel.  I thought I must be configured
> something wrong in the "make menuconfig" so I decide to recompile
> the kernel version 2.2.12-20 with the same parameters I used in version
> 2.2.16. Guess what, the version 2.2.12-20 comes up clean with out any
> Problems.  I can not, for the life of me, figure out why 2.2.16 does not
> work on my system (I am running Pentium III 500Mhz, 128 RAM,
> 3com 3c905XL and matrox video card).
> 
> Last, I thought that I only have problem with version 2.2.16 but I am
> also having problems with version 2.2.14, 2.2.15 and 2.2.16.  Please
> help..
> 
> By the way, X-win32 is working beautifully on my network.. Thank
> You very much for your help...
> 
> Sincerely,
> David
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Tony Neville" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid Question - 1
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:07:16 +1200


"PlzBeMine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8o8t6c$tif$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Linux Gurus,
>
> I have almost similar problem with Bing. I have a 20Gb HDD with pre-
> installed Win98 and now I want to install Redhat Linux as well.
>
> I have this Partition Magix but I really dont know what the software
> can do aside from partitioning your hard drive withour destroying your
> current setup.

You can use it to resize one partition to make room for another.

> Question : Is Partition Magic applicable to dos and linux os as well? I
> am assuming that Partition Magic will just partition the drive on the
> Win98 system.

I've created Linux native and swap partitions with PM v4, too.

> If I use Partition Magic will Linux installation recognize the
> partitioned space? Please advise...

Yes.

Cheers,
            Tony




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From: Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help for newbie stuck with linux boot floppy
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:09:36 GMT

Leonard Evens wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Thank you,....i will tried it!!
> >
> > TongEng Chiah wrote:
> >
> > > i think ur hardisk is bigger than 8.4Mb, and linux may have problem
> > > accessing beyond 1024 cylinders.
> > >
> > > to solve the problem, boot up using ur floppy
> > >     edit the file /etc/lilo.conf
> > >
> > > there should be a option linear in the file, change it to lba32
> > > if not, just added lba32 in
> > > after that, do a
> > >     /sbin/lilo
> > >
> > > reboot after that.
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Hi, any help appreciated.......
> > > >
> > > > I'm currently using Gentus Linux GPL v3.0 with a dual Celeron ABIT BP-6
> > > > motherboard. I am using a boot floppy to boot into the system. My
> > > > regular LILO gets stuck at LI....and died. I'm using ATA66 harddisks
> > > > (and they are detected properly once we pass the initial boot sequence),
> > > > and i believe the kernel is already specially compiled in the CD to run
> > > > with ATA66.
> > > >
> > > > Am I missing something? There is also a problem when i use upgrade
> > > > option in the Gentus CD to upgrade to a higher version Linux(such as
> > > > from Gentus v1.0 to Gentus v3.0). It always get stuck, i suspect the
> > > > installer was unable to properly read the harddisk geometry.....and i
> > > > have to install as fresh.    :-(
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for any help.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Damon
> > > >
> > > > P.S. - Gentus distro is very similar  to RedHat distro(actually i
> > > > believe it's exactly alike except with kernel compiled to handle UDMA
> > > > and some other special drivers).
> 
> For the lba32 option to work, you have to be sure you have the
> latest version of lilo.  There is a good chance your distribution
> didn't come with that version.
> 


Yes, and just to be more specific, Lilo v21.4 and later support the
lba32 option, while v21.3 and earlier do not. The most recent version is
21.5 I believe.

Tom

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From: Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: basic, very basic
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:28:05 GMT

Linux can boot from any drive, as long as it's a drive that is detected
by the BIOS. For example, I am currently running Linux from my 3rd drive
(secondary master). I also have other Linux installs on my primary slave
and primary master drives. 

I boot Linux by:
1) installing Lilo in the partition boot sector of each Linux
installation
2) use a boot manager called Bootit Direct in the MBR to select the OS

Lilo is the boot loader that comes with Linux, and is quite versatile.
As a quick primer in it's use, you can take a look at this HOWTO
document:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/LILO.html

Tom

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> This IS a very basic question, but 30 years in computing has learned me
> one thing : If in doubt, ask before you do anything.
> My home PC has 2  2GB drives and a CD. Primary EDI controller hosts 1 HD
> 
> and the CD. Second EDI controller hosts the other HD, which is empty and
> 
> HPFS. The HW is fairly new, IBM PC365, pentium 2 and 250 MB ram, nothing
> 
> exotic installed apart from an EICON Diva ISDN adapter, which isn't
> really exotic.
> On the first HD resides NT4.0 on a 500 MB NTFS volume, thats for working
> 
> from home via dial-in. Also it has a 1.5GB OS/2 partition, HPFS format
> of course. Thats for everything else, I just love OS/2. The HPFS format
> is because NT can't make any sense out of it and leaves it alone.
> Booting is via OS/2 bootmanager(on HD1), and works with no fuss at all.
> In a move to phase out OS/2, I want to give Linux a try. I just hate
> Microsoft and their lousy OS's.
> From the manuals I get the impression that Linux must reside on the
> first disk on the primary EDI controller, correct ?. Any way to install
> Linux on a set-up like mine?.
> Please reply to my mailadress too. My newsreader forgets the newsgroups
> I subscribe to now and then, and it would be a shame to loose any
> replies.
> rgds
> Peter

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From: "VISHAL chadha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WIndows 98 & Linux
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:39:06 GMT

I have 2 hard drives. (  C & D ) Windows 98 is my primary partition.(Drive
C )
I want to install Red-hat Linux 6.1 on Drive D.
How do I set up dual mode boot up.



Vishal









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From: Steen Suder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suche x.400 MTA
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 01:41:27 +0200

Rene Schmidt wrote:
> 
> Hallo,
> 
> ich brauche einen X.400 MTA. Also einen Server der Mail per X.400 sendet und
> annimmt.

http://www.openone.com/software/MailOne/index.htm


-- 
Best regards / Mvh.,
Steen Suder, sysadm kollegie6400.dk -|- OpenSource --- Sign of the time

Scan-Aqua ADVARSEL WARNING http://www.uk.k64.dk/sfs/Scan-Aqua/

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From: Steen Suder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WIndows 98 & Linux
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 01:44:20 +0200

VISHAL chadha wrote:
> 
> I have 2 hard drives. (  C & D ) Windows 98 is my primary partition.(Drive
> C )
> I want to install Red-hat Linux 6.1 on Drive D.
> How do I set up dual mode boot up.
> 
> Vishal

Don't do RH61, it's so buggy. Try RH62 or Mandrake 7.1 instead.
If you use a modern distro, it's all more or less automatic... just read
on-screen instructions.

-- 
Best regards / Mvh.,
Steen Suder, sysadm kollegie6400.dk -|- OpenSource --- Sign of the time

Scan-Aqua ADVARSEL WARNING http://www.uk.k64.dk/sfs/Scan-Aqua/

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From: Steen Suder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2.16: no sound or parport "unresolved symbols" error.
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 01:48:22 +0200

"Richard M. Denney" wrote:
> 
> Well, I am doing what I know I shouldn't do, attempting to upgrade a
> kernel when everything is working OK. Nevertheless, here is the
> situation.
> 
> Currently running RH 6.0 with a previous kernel upgrade to 2.2.14.
> Everything works fine.
> Attempting to update the kernel to 2.2.16 (from a kernel.org mirror
> site). Everything compiles fine with no evidence of errors.
> 
> When the new kernel boots, the sound fails to come up and the parallel
> port fails to operate. Both these are compiled as modules (with kernel
> module loader compiled into the kernel). (Other modules, the ethernet
> ne.o for example, automatically configure and appear with lsmod.)
> Attempting to load any sound-related or parport-related module results
> in the message "unresolved symbols". I have compared the modules in
> /lib/modules/2.2.X/misc directory for kernels 2.2.14 and 2.2.16
> (generated at compile time).  For sound, they seem to all be there
> (soundcore.o, sound.o, uart401,  awe_wave.o, mpu401.o, opl3.o, v_midi.o,
> and sb.o.  For the parallel port, they are parport.o, parport_pc.o and
> lp.o. (Not sure about the function of uart6850.o, but it is present in
> both versions.) None of these modules can be manually loaded with
> modprobe without the "unresolved symbols" error.
> 
> I have tried recompiling a couple of times on the possibility that a
> random error made these modules unusable, but to no avail. Any adeas?
> 
> I am NOT in dire straights because I am using LILO so that I can boot
> either the new or the old kernel. Nevertheless, this problem has me
> baffled.
> 
> Rick

Sounds like you haven't installed the corresponding System.map in /boot.
You'll find it in /usr/src/linux.
Copy it to /boot/System.map-kernelversion and make a symlink to
/boot/System.map.

The try depmod -a or reboot if you will.


-- 
Best regards / Mvh.,
Steen Suder, sysadm kollegie6400.dk -|- OpenSource --- Sign of the time

Scan-Aqua ADVARSEL WARNING http://www.uk.k64.dk/sfs/Scan-Aqua/

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From: "ortius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: httpd hangs at boot
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:07:31 -0400

Anyone?

Moved one of our servers out of a co-lo. Wanted to check out the files on
the system before putting it back in service. It worked a-ok while at the
co-lo. It's here on a router/T1, cat5. Powered it up, LILO loads & inits the
following...

it starts mount local filesystems, turning on user and group quotas for
local filesystems,
enabling swap space, INIT: entering runlevel3, Entering non-interactive
startup, check for new hardware,
setting network parameters, bringing up interface lo, bringing up interface
eth0, initializing random number generator,
 sys logger, kernel logger, cron daemon, INET svcs, proftpd, antirelayd, ssl
service, starting exim, ALL OK, then
starting httpd

...  hangs...

tried control c,... tried control-d

How do I gain access , get around the httpd hang  ( i know the IP is
invalid... can't access to change, anyway ).




--
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese .



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From: "DoDO_DeViL(R)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem i/o address conflict
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:08:27 GMT

I'm having trouble installing an ISA PnP modem in my RH6.0 system.  It
works fine through windows.  This modem is an upgrade from my 33.6,
which was also an ISA PnP, and which i never had any problems with.  I
did the isapnp.conf stuff the same way as for my old modem, but for
some reason, i'm getting an i/o conflict.  when i check /proc/ioports
it says "serial(auto)" has already claimed the address i need.  I've
looked around for how to disable that, but to no avail.  Any help???

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From: PlzBeMine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid Question - 1
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:32:49 GMT

If this is so, will it still be correct if I just partition my HDD to 3
then let Linux do the rest of the partitioning?

thanks,
PlzBeMine


> Partition Magic from Power Quest will handle Linux very well.  The
initial
> out of the box 4.0 version of Partition Magic failed to correctly
format
> the ext2 partition and swap partition for Linux.  The upgrade works
fine.
> But, I simply let RedHat installation procedure go ahead and include
> reformating the ext2 partition.  Everything worked fine.  It does
handle
> switching partitions to different formats, too.  At least, I tried
with a
> partition for data storage and it worked fine to convert from ext2 to
> vfat32.
>
> Brian


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Compile problem with errno.h
Date: 27 Aug 2000 00:52:58 GMT


/usr/include/bits/errno.h:25: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory

I get the above error message usual accomanied by another error or two
whenever I try to compile a program (ntop, readline,  etc.)   Any ideas?

System has

RedHat 6.2 K 2.2.16 i686
perl-5.00503-10
perl-Errno-1.09-2





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From: Eric Laffoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win 2000 installation prevents Linux boot?
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:56:16 -0700

Michael Dahlinger wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I have a server (for test purposes) with NT 4.0 and Linux installed.
> In the MBR of the (only) SCSI disk was the NT Boot Manager, I used
> BOOTPART to create the boot-record for the linux partition and LILO in the
> superblock of the Linux partition to boot Linux.
> 
> This worked fine.
> 
> After the installation of Win 2000 on a third partition, the WINNNT
> Bootmanager seems to be replaced by something of Win 2000. I now only can
> boot the Win 2000 partition and the Win NT part, but no longer Linux.
> Seelecting teh Linux, it still switches to the Linux Boot Record and says
> only
> 
> LI
> 
> and thats it, stop, hang no LO or anything more.
> 
> However, I still can boot from my Linux boot disk.
> 
> Any ideas on
> a) how to recover from the Win 2000 boot manager and restore the original
> behaviour (NT Boot Manager)
> b) how can Linux and Win 2000 (and NT) can coexist?
> 
> My best regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> Michael Dahlinger
> GSI computing dept.
> Darmstadt / Germany
> 
> 
You can count on windoze re-writing your MBR. If you have a boot floppy I 
suggest you use either lilo or grub. With lilo edit your /etc/lilo.conf to 
include your windoze partitions as well as Linux. then run /sbin/lilo and 
you will be able to select by hitting the tab key. grub is more graphical 
but I have less experience with it. I have no idea how to make windoze play 
nice so I work and play with Linux only.
-- 
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http://virtualartisans.com      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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