Linux-Setup Digest #488, Volume #19 Sun, 27 Aug 00 11:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Continuous support on preparations. (Mart Rootamm)
"su" in scripts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Slrn - SSL (Mike Cardwell)
Re: DUAL BOOT (TomG)
Re: Taking the plunge... (TomG)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Tad McClellan)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (Tad McClellan)
Re: IBM T20/A20 ThkPd: mini-PCI Ethernet 100/10Mbps... supported? (Valentin Guillen)
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From: Mart Rootamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Continuous support on preparations.
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 15:35:25 +0200
Hello.
I would like to have some continuous support on all the preparations
before I actually get to install Linux or any current distribution of
it. I can, however, provide any background information that would help
you help me.
I am mainly a PC user, very familiar with Windows 95 (more specifically
4.00.950, I did use later releases of it, but had no influence over the
computer), Windows 98 Service Pack 1 and I have pretty good user
experience with MS-DOS (I could configure it to display in different
colour and created a batch file with the help of which I could adjust
both MS-DOS 6 and Windows for Workgroups 3.11 visually better to
sunlight conditions, when strong sunlight reflected from my body to the
monitor's old filter).
I am right now stuck with the Linux checklist, which was first compiled
in India. I have a copy of it here. Anyone who feels that s/he could
help, please reply straight to [EMAIL PROTECTED], as I don't
follow the newsgroup periodically. I am sorry, if the file takes up a
little more space and looks a little less than a usual letter.
A. ABOUT YOU
1* Your Name _Mart Rootamm
2* Your contact phone numbers: _ (+37 2) 6 535 862
3* Your email adress _ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4* Have you used Linux before? What distribution? _I have not used
Linux throughly, but rather in some snapshots. Like browsing and
using exiting commands under the supervision of a person who know
Linux, but with whom I am not communicating anymore.
5* Have you used any version of Unix before? Which one?
On what hardware platform? _This one was Caldera Linux, I have
no knowledge of the kernel. The computer was a Pentium-based PC.
6* Is this an upgrade to an existing Linux distribution? _No.
7* What will be the end-use of this Linux installation? _Office
work, Internet-related stuff (e-mail, newsgroups), creating and
editing web pages, I would also like to have a possiblity to access
all the made-in-Windows files. Practically anything I could do with a
Windows 98-based PC.
8* Do you wish to retain DOS/Win/any other OS along with
Linux, on your system? _Yes (that is, with Dual Boot and that
I could use both operating systems - Windows 98 and Linux).
9* Any other detail you want to add:
_I'd like to have no problems with installation and running of
Linux, also double boot (LILO), which I have previously mentioned for
now.
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G. GENERAL
1* CPU type [i386, i486 DX2...]: _Intel Pentium MMX
2* Bus type [ISA, EISA, VESA, PCI, MCA ... ]: _PCI, I guess.
3* Processor speed (MHz)? _266
4* What size is your RAM (minimum 4 MB needed)? _64M
5* Do you want X Window System (i.e. Graphical User
Interface for Linux) to be installed on your system? _Yes
6* How many serial ports (COM ports) do you have on your PC? _2
7* Are you planning to add dumb terminals to your PC? _No.
How many? _None. Refer to the previous question.
8* Please mention below, any additional details you wish to
add: _I have no information on the motherboard. This is the
list of deviced I found from the Device Manager of Windows 98
(My Computer->Properties from the short-cut menu->"System Properties"
window->"Device Manager" tab->"System devices" thread):
-Direct memory access controller
-Intel 82371AB PCI to ICA bridge (ISA mode)
-Intel 82371AB Power Management Controller
-Intel 82439TX Pentium(r) Processor to PCI bridge
-IO read data port for ISA Plug and Play enumerator
-Motherboard resources
-Numeric data processor
-PCI bus
-Plug and Play BIOS
-Programmable interrupt controller
-System board
-System board extension for PnP BIOS
-System CMOS/real time clock
-System speaker
-System timer
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M. MOUSE
1* To which port is your mouse connected? What IRQ? _Don't know.
This question overall caused some confusion, because I could not find
the port name/address (identification sign) to which the mouse is
connected. This is where I initially got stuck.
2* What type of mouse are you using
[Microsoft, Busmouse, PS/2 ..]? _LogiTech Serial Mouse
3* How many buttons does the mouse have? _2
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C. CDROM
Useful tips: If you are not sure if your CDROM is bootable or
not, power on the machine and go to BIOS settings (do not let
the PC bootup). Look for bootable drive options in the BIOS
settings.
1* What is the make and type of CDROM drive
[e.g. IDE ATAPI, Sony, S-B Pro/Panasonic, SCSI, true
IDE ..]? _Possibly ATAPI, but not sure.
2* On which drive interface [1st IDE, 2nd IDE, 3rd IDE,
4th IDE, SCSI, proprietary interface] and which drive
[drive 1 , drive 2, SCSI-ID 5] is the CDROM connected
(e.g. drive 2 of 1st IDE, SCSI-ID 5 of built-in SCSI
interface)? _Don't know.
3* Is your CDROM a bootable drive? _Can be made bootable through
chaning the BIOS setup settings.
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F. FLOPPY DRIVES
1* Do you have a 3 1/2" floppy drive? _Yes.
2* Is the 3 1/2" floppy drive a bootable drive? _Can be made
bootable through chaning the BIOS setup settings.
The next two questions asked about 5 1/4" disk drives, which I
have not.
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This section asked about tape drives. Since I have none, I'm not
going to present this question/answer section.
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D. DISK
Useful tips: At this point, you must be clear about how your
Linux will be installed and on which disk etc. You must also
be clear how your Linux will be booted (there are different
possibilities).
Read the installation HOWTO before you answer the following
questions.
1* What type of drive do you have [IDE, SCSI, RLL, MFM ....]? _I
am not sure. Possibly IDE or EIDE.
2* How many partitions are there on your first disk drive?
Name, type, size? Collect these details also for other
disk drives you may have on this machine. _There is one
partition for the whole drive.
3* On which drive are you planning to install Linux (e.g. drive
2 of first IDE, or SCSI-ID 5 of built-in SCSI interface)? _I am
planning to install Linux to the primary master drive, where Windows
98 lies in.
4* Can we re-partition your disk (All existing data
will be lost)? _No. Since this is not formally my computer,
though I have great influence over it, I can't risk losing any
previously stored information.
5* Which partitions can be reformatted to become Linux
partitions? Note: All information recorded in this
partition will be erased. _There, I don't know again.
6* How much of disk space can you give for Linux
[50 MB minimum]? The hard drive has full of 3,01 Gb, of which
approximately 1,85 Gb is used and 1,16 Gb is free. To specify, the
Windows 98 partition has a 32-bit file system.
7* What is your second hard disk (if any)? _I currently don't have
a second hard disk, though I am tentatively planning to have one (once
I get the money).
8* What is your third hard disk (if any)? _Refer to question #7.
9* What is your fourth hard disk (if any)? _Refer to question #7.
10* Do you have any SCSI device? Which SCSI controller do
you have (if any)? _It is possible, that I might have one or
two. I don't know much of the computer's hardware, I am specialized in
its software.
11* Do you plan to boot from your hard disk or floppy? _I plan to
boot from the hard disk.
12* On which hard disk partition do you want LILO boot
loader to reside? _LILO boot loader has to reside on the
primary master drive. I need the space that Windows 98 and all its
files relative to it (including data files that were later included
and created there). Since I don't right now have a second hard drive,
I suspect I have to keep it on the first one.
13* Do you wish to retain the original boot sector/master
boot record that is currently on your hard disk? _Yes. I need
Windows 98 alonside Linux.
14* On which disk partitions will your Linux root reside? _On the
partition separated from the main Windows 98 partition.
15* Do you access the IDE drive in LBA mode (check your BIOS
settings)? ---Have to access BIOS settings.
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V. Video Display Unit (Monitor and controller)
Useful tips: If you do not have good documentation on your
VDU, try to look at the sticker (nameplate) on the back of
your VDU, you may find the answers to some of the questions
given below.
1* What kind of monitor do you have [Monochrome, Colour]
[EGA, VGA, CGA ..]? What make? _It is a ViewSonic E655 SVGA
high-resolution monitor.
2* Size of screen [14", 15", 19"]? Is it an interlaced monitor?
_The monitor size is 15". What is an interlaced monitor?
3* What are the resolutions, and number of colours possible on
this monitor [600x480, 800x600, 1024x768]? _The normal
resolution has to be 800x600 with a 32-bit color resolution.
4* What is your monitor's vertical refresh rate / vertical
sync. frequency (could be a range)? _Don't know.
5* What is your monitor's horizontal refresh rate / horizontal
sync. frquency (could be a range)? _Don't know.
6* Monitor's bandwidth? _Don't understand the meaning of the
question.
7* Video RAM size? _More that 1Mb, but not sure again.
8* VDU Control card: make and model? _ATI Rage II+ PCI (ati_m64)
9* Chip set used in VDU control card? _Don't know.
10* What RAMDAC do you have? _What is a RAMDAC?
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N. NETWORKING
1* Are you using an internal modem/external modem? _I am using
none right now.
2* What make? _Refer to question #1.
3* On which COM port is the modem connected? What IRQ? _Refer to
question #1.
4* What is the speed of the modem [bps]? _Refer to question #1.
5* What serial interface chip does your computer use (e.g.
8450, 16550C)? _Refer to question #1.
6* Is it a "Windows only" modem [WIN-MODEM...]? _Refer to question
#1.
7* Which ethernet card do you have [10base2 or 10baseT;
NONE for none]? What type? _The network adapter: Novell/Anthem
NE2000 Compatible.
8* Will this machine be a part of Internet or any Intranet? _It
will be a part of a Local Area Network, which is connected to the
Internet. Basically, the Internet is accessed through the LAN, which
in its respect is accessed through the network adapter.
9* Will this machine use a dialup connection / PPP connection
to an Internet/Intranet server? _Not it does not and it will
not use such a connection.
10* Will this machine be used as an Internet or Intranet server?
_This machine is sometimes only used as an FTP server.
11* What will be the hostname of your computer (e.g. penguin)?
_The computer's individual Internet address name is
http://vastus.vastus.ee .
12* What will be the domain name, if any, of your computer
(e.g. family_name.city.country). _The domain name of the
computer is vastus.vastus.ee. But it is acting as a client.
12* What will be the IP address, if any, of your computer
(e.g. 123.1.2.3)? 195.50.196.105
13* What is the IP address of the DNS server (can be none)? _Don't
know.
14* What is the IP address of the default router (can be none)?
_Don't know.
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P. PRINTER
1* Have you connected any printer on the parallel port of
your PC? _Yes.
2* What is the type, make of the printer? _HP LaserJet 6L PCL
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No laptop device.
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X. MISCELLANEOUS
Useful tip: Try to make a consolidated hardcopy list of I/O
addresses, IRQs, DMA-addresses used by the different devices
in your machine. Take care to find out the configuration
details of your VDU-driver card, Ethernet card, SCSI card etc.
1* Does your keyboard use a round connector (DIN-5) or
PS/2 connector? _It is using a round connector.
2* Do you plan to use keyboard mapping to any non-US
keyboards [French, Greek, Cyrillic, ..]? _Yes, specifically,
Estonian.
3* Are you using any Plug&Play devices? _Yes. Unable to specify.
4* Are you using any sound card? What card? What I/O, IRQ, DMA
does it use? _No.
5* How many ISA spare slots do you have? _Don't know. |Where can I
6* How many EISA spare slots do you have? _Don't know.|find these
7* How many VESA spare slots do you have? _Don't know.|slots at?
8* How many PCI spare slots do you have? _Don't know. |
9* How many other (describe) spare slots? _Don't know.|
10* What kind of other removable media do you have (can
be NONE)? _There are only the CD-ROM and 3 1/2" diskette
drive. No more.
11* Do you have any other interesting hardware? _Don't know.
12* Please add any details you wish to highlight:
__________________________________________________
__________________________________________________
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Did you find this form clear? Any suggestions for improvement? _I did
not find this form to be very clear.
__________________________________________________
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===================================================================
That is all. Thanks for filling out the form.
Please crosscheck the above responses, and keep the checklist
handy at the time of installation.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
Algologic acknowledges with gratitude the useful suggestions
and inputs from many members of the Linux community, for
preparation of this checklist. This checklist is proof of the
cooperation and goodwill which exists between Linux users.
Algologic submits this checklist to the Linux community, as a
humble tribute to the "spirit of Linux".
********Endchecklist
-Mart.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "su" in scripts
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:44:12 GMT
I'm trying to set up Lotus Domino to start automatically in an init.d
script, and I'm running into a problem.
The notes server only runs properly if it is in its own user name, i.e.
notes. As such, I need to include in a script an "su" command to change
to the notes user, then execute the startup command.
However, when I try to do this, it doesn't really change the user. In
fact, if I write a little script like this:
#!/bin/sh
su - -c "`who am i`" notes
you'd think I would get something like "machine!notes ..." but instead
I get "machine!root..."
What's going on? I've read the man pages, but I can't figure out how to
make this work!
Thanks for any responses!
Matt
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Cardwell)
Subject: Slrn - SSL
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:11:12 GMT
Could anyone tell me if there is a way to make slrn use ssl
connections to a news server, or if there are any other
news readers that can. It'd also be useful if you told me
how to go about doing it. ;) Of course assuming the server
accepts ssl connections.
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From: TomG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DUAL BOOT
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:29:16 GMT
Mark Messiha wrote:
>
> I have recently insalled Linux RedHat 6.2 GNOME on a partition on my
> harddrive.
>
> I now wish to have a Dual Boot process to allow me to select which O?S I
> wish to load.
>
> I know Linux has aDual Boot Manager in it but I do not know where it is.
>
> I downloaded BootIT &when I tried to boot up Linux with it, it told me
> that the Partition I have installed LInux on is not Bootable.
>
> I use a boot disk to boot up Linux for now.
>
> Please tel me where the Dual Boot Manager is is in Linux & how to fix
this
> problem of making my Linux Partition Bootable.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
You need to install LILO (the LInux LOader)into the master boot record.
Read the RedHat manual, as they probably provide a utility to help you do
this. LILO can then be configured to boot your other OS, again, read the
manual.
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: TomG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Taking the plunge...
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:29:17 GMT
Edward wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been running win2k for a while now, and I'd like to see what linux
is
> all about.
>
> I got the Redhat6 distribution CD from a friend (burned, no manual or
> anything). How would I go about installing? I haven't tried anythign
yet. I
> have a 5 gb partition (is this enough?) reserved for linux....
>
> Does redhat automatically install a interface like Gnome KDE or E?
>
> For me, someone who has no experience with Unix/Linux, is this the best
> version for me? I've read of Caldera commandless type? I want to start
slow
> but slowly learn... I dont' mind paying a few bucks for a boxed
distribution
> that comes with a good manual.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Edward
>
>
5gb is plenty.
Your best bet is to borrow the manual from your friend. And get a good
book. I've found Linux Complete, published by Sybex, $20, ISBN 0-7821-
2567-0 to be very useful. It tells you most things you need to know.
Incidentally, what's Win2K like?
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tad McClellan)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 09:59:30 -0400
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 19:27:47 +1000, Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> It seems that too many people are so worked up about the XML format that
>> they are crediting it with magical properties.
>
>Yeh, there seems to be a lot of hype. I guess it's the new toy syndrome.
^^^^^^^
Structured markup is not new. It is (at least) 20 *years* old.
I am dumbfounded that most everybody thinks that XML is
"something new"...
So it isn't really "new toy" syndrome, it is more like
"a very old toy that I just now discovered" syndrome :-)
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tad McClellan)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:02:04 -0400
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:17:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:52:59 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Clearly, you *aren't* a developer.
>
>And that give him the perfect qualifications to determine what developers
>should be doing. Read a little about the latest fad, like XML,
>understanding less than half of the information, credit it with magical
>properties to solve all ills and then direct developers to make it work
>somehow. Sounds familiar?
Someone (name Scott, perhaps?) could get rich from a
comic strip that characterized that situation :-)
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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From: Valentin Guillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: IBM T20/A20 ThkPd: mini-PCI Ethernet 100/10Mbps... supported?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:57:02 GMT
John,
Perhaps another poster will have salient info more to the specific point
of your post but I'll add:
I am using Intel EtherEx Pro/100B PCI LAN adapters in a couple of boxes
on my home network and they come up automatically in any version of
Linux I've tried on those boxes, and I've had several distros over the
last 5 years on some of these network cards.
These cards are now out of production. They contain the INTEL S82557
chip as the main controller on the card.
On another topic:
I've had my laptop for 2 1/2 years now and have been quite pleased with
it. It's a Hitachi VisionBook Pro. Here's why. This laptop has built
in CD-ROM, Floppy, AMD PC-NET Pro 10BaseT adapter, USB port, 56K V.90 US
Robotics REAL modem, track pad, and then all of the stuff you expect
like TFT color screen, ports, IR and all the rest. My point here is
that IT'S all built in, required NO DONGLES, and it's all directly
supported by OS/2, and LINUX.
>From day one, I've been running OS/2 and first REDHat 5.0, then SuSE 6.X
on this laptop.
Why settle on a laptop which will require dongles, adapters, etc, and
still might give you installation and configuration grief. By shopping
around, you can find a box which will support everything you need to do
in linux, and support it easily and with everything built in.
I did have to put 80mb additional ram because it came with only 16mb,
and of course, I got a much larger replacement drive right away, so I
could put away the nasty m$ winx crap, and install the OS/2 and
GNU/Linux. I've been happier than a fly in *hit with this box. It's
only a 133MMX, but with the additional memory and a 100mb swap file, it
performs. I use it mostly for surfing and for giving slide
presentations in Star Office. Anyone who uses star office can attest
that if you can use it, your box can do anything. Only thing I wouldn't
try on this laptop is VMWARE. I simply don't have the horsepower for
running that.
My message headers will attest to that fact that it's still running and
that's what I'm writing on currently.
Good Luck with your upcomming purchase!
Regards,
Valentin
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