Linux-Setup Digest #505, Volume #19 Tue, 29 Aug 00 05:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: GTK/GLIB not working!!!! ("Gene Heskett")
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Unable to detect modem ("Aaron Burton")
USB Mouse doesn't work for Linux 6.2 ("pgrimm")
Really annoying X problem - HHHHEEEEELLLPPPPPPPP!!!! (Bozzy)
Re: triple boot ("C. Pagan")
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Which is best? Red Hat Linux or Corel Linux? ("Tomas Kroown")
cvs check out problems..cannot check out files into the repository itself. ("Peter
Huang")
Re: triple boot (-Art-)
SuSE6.4 & Veritas ?? ("Daniel Pfuhl")
Re: cvs check out problems..cannot check out files into the repository ("Quiney,
Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
Re: Get rid of LILO in the MBR (Villy Kruse)
SuSE 7.0 install worse than 6.x ... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
"weird" partitioning - how to make Suse 6.3 bootable? GeForce?
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Date: 28 Aug 2000 23:56:17 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GTK/GLIB not working!!!!
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Matt ;
> i just installed linux, and when trying to install something, i
> think GAIM, it kept saying that i needed to install GTK 1.2.8 or
> better, so went to www.gtk.org and downloaded, and tried installing
> it, but it asked for GLIB
> 1.2.8 or better, so i went back to www.gtk.org noticing that they
> also had GLIB. i installed it, and no error messages. so then
> getting back to installing GTK, it still said that GLIB 1.2.8 or
> better was needed. i am confused, because i had just installed
> GLIB, and tried reinstalling many times, but it still has the same
> error messages. please help. thanks.
The tar.gz from the GTK site puts it in a different directory. So the
old one isn't overwritten, and its being found first. I chased that one
around for a couple of months before I got brave and killed one whole
directory, and that fixed it right up.
Cheers, Gene
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:09:42 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:CHGq5.21149$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Suppose the hard disk crashes. I can buy another, and assuming I can lay
my
> hands on all my CDs, I can rebuild my machine yet again (losing only my
> unqiue work, if I failed to transfer it too to some external storage).
And
> I supply all the answers to all the decision points yet one more time.
Are you in the habit of discarding you installation media when you may still
need it in the future?
Once you have everything installed the way you want it just make a backup
copy of the installation and you are all set. Under unix we already have a
couple of very complex and capable programs that can take care of the
situation that you have painted here. They can work on a local host or with
the assistance of a couple of other very complex programs they can work
across the network even with multiple hosts on opposite sides of the planet
from each other. They can backup any filesystem and any storage device, not
just the harddrive. They can be used on non-unix hosts by using a floppy
based mini-unix installations. What are these two programs? They are "cat"
and "dd". So do you really think preventing repeated reinstallations is so
complex?
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From: "Aaron Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unable to detect modem
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:23:40 -0700
I'm a having a major problem trying to install my modem using Red Hat 6.1
The error message I receive is "Application rp3-config (process 849) fatal
error segmentation fault". The message also refers to the Gnome Application
Crash
Page. I've spent two days searching for this crash page. I really need
help...
Thanks.
A. Burton
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From: "pgrimm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB Mouse doesn't work for Linux 6.2
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:59:13 -0700
Help!
I partitioned my HD, installed Linux 6.2, everything was groovy, including
LILO dual boot. Mouse will not work under any circumstances! I have an
Acer box with as SIS 620 chipset motherboard (no PS2 ports to be found). I
tried installing an additional PCI serial port with a USB to PS2 to serial
adapter (duct tape), but even windows can't find the mouse that way. What
if anything can I do to get this thing going?
Peter Grimm
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From: Bozzy <cbostock@=antispamremove=btinternet.com>
Subject: Really annoying X problem - HHHHEEEEELLLPPPPPPPP!!!!
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:11:49 +0100
I have recently installed Mandrake 7.0 on my new PC:
Athlon 600
ASUS K7M Motherboard
G400 Graphics card (32Mb)
Mitsubishi Pro 710 monitor
The problem is that that periodically, possibly anywhere between 30
seconds to several minutes, my screen blinks. That is it goes blank
for about a second after which the desktop display returns. I have
tried upgrading to 7.1 of Mandrake, but that did not help. I am
running KDE, but the same problem also manifests itself when I switch
to Gnome. I did notice that when I try to configure my graphics card,
specifying 32M, that when I go back in to configure it again it seems
to reset it to a 16M G400, though I don't know whether this is an
issue.
Since upgrading to 7.1 I have selected my monitor from the list
provided by the X-config utility and the Vertical and Horizontal sync
rates match between my monitor manual and the XF86Config file.
This is a really anoying bug that's driving me up the wall so any help
would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Clive.
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From: "C. Pagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: triple boot
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:14:38 GMT
Edward:
I agree that Mandrake is the easiest of the distributions to install and
configure.
Based on my experience with Windows dual boot machines, NT (and it's
successor W2K) require you install it first before installing Win98, or any
other "open" (not secure, real mode) OS's. My suggestion is to install W2K,
WinX, then Linux. The reason for this suggestion is that Windows has a
nasty habit of overwriting the boot sector of a drive. My guess is Bill
Gates figured no one would want to use anything other something of his
creation (so to speak).
Happy Hunting,
"Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:yxHq5.112246$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> From my earlier post (taking the plunge) it seems that Mandrake is the
> easiest to install for a newbie like me. When I get my new comp, I plan to
> reformat and install Windows Me (for those games), Win2k, and Linux. What
> order should I install (i'm pretty sure it would matter). I'm guessing Me,
> 2k, linux?
>
> From Me-->2k I know that 2k automatically makes a dual boot. Would the
> mandrake installation autodetect those and make it's own bootloader?
>
> Also, if should I buy a boxed version of Mandrake, or should I download it
> somewhere (have cable) and buy a separate linux book?
>
> Thanks,
> Edward
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:10:45 GMT
There's nothing magic about xml, as others have pointed out. Despite
all the current hype, it's really just SMGL lite--25 year old
technology chopped down to a manageable size & warmed over. The only
reason people thinks it's hot is 'cause it has 'X' in its name.
Though it's got no technical advantage over other file formats, it does
have some value due to the hype--there's some consensus for it, so it's
a kind of lingua franca. A big disadvantage over other formats is that
it's so verbose--data files typically grow by an order of magnitude
when converted to xml format.
It's already being used for configuration files & deployment
descriptors--something like what you're describing. It's descriptive
enough & it works. I admit that I use xml frequently because, all else
being equal, it's what everybody else thinks is new & hot & sexy. So
people think our software is cool 'cause it use xml. & like I said,
it's no disadvantage that it works & you can get free parsers for it
from IBM & Sun & Oracle etc.
But it doesn't solve any new problems. The biggest pain in the ass in
installing new software on an existing system is the interaction with
the software & hardware configuration that is already there.
That's the tough part & xml doesn't help with that. That's the job
that install programs do.
In article <3q1p5.14319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is a few observations:
>
> Linux on the desktop (and as a server) requires it to beat Windows
XXX hands
> down for ease of configuration, security, and management.
>
> Installing software is simply the act of constructing in storage a
proper
> representation of the software. In other words, our talking about
> installing software on a computer is like a painter insisting she is
> installing a picture of a duck onto her painting. It doesn't matter
how she
> does it, she is rendering the duck, not installing it.
>
> We need to get rid of install programs, on all platforms. There isn't
> another single thing we do on computers that causes more in dollars
and time
> (Solitaire *is* a close second, however ;-).
>
> XML can be used to define a program in abstract. A single, separate
> Software Rendering Facility can be used to take a program's abstract
form in
> XML and render it to the target computer system.
>
> XML can be used to capture the options required for this rendering.
>
> XML can be used to refer to a group of programs in abstract (XML),
and their
> options (XML), in order to define a single definition that can be
expressed
> in different ways on different computer systems to construct an
operational,
> distributed application. (Unlike today, where we have to install
every web
> server, every firewall, every Java JDK, every etc. all from scratch,
with
> one mistake preventing any of it from working!)
>
> This discussion about how XML might be used along with Linux to
create a new
> concept in Operating Systems is beginning. We have the technology
and the
> know how. We just have to take our computer system, set it on its
side and
> view it a bit differently. This technology is going to completely
change
> the rules of software configuration, management, and security, and
you can
> make it happen.
>
> http://www.egroups.com/group/xmlos/
> http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/xmlos/
>
> Paul Snow
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: "Tomas Kroown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which is best? Red Hat Linux or Corel Linux?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:43:05 +1100
Mea culpa, hard disk is 6 GB and the partitions are 2 resp. 4 GB
"Tomas Kroown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:vaEq5.39800$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have the option of installing either one of these. I am interested in
> using it as a stand alone PC with Internet access, e-mail and browsing,
> using phone modem. I will also be doing word processing and similar office
> activities.
>
> My computer is a Pentium 166, 6 MB harddisk and 32 MB RAM, floppy, CD ROM
> and possible CD writer. I have partitioned it to be 2 MB Windows and the
> rest is 4 MB, empty for now.
>
>
>
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From: "Peter Huang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: cvs check out problems..cannot check out files into the repository itself.
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 23:38:54 -0700
I'm new at CVS. I started by set the CVSROOT environment variable.
than
cvs init
than
I create a directory called "cvsroot" in my home directory
I go into the directory containing the files I want to put in the repository
and type
cvs import cvsroot manu initialtag
in the directory cvsroot, it created the files plus ,v from the directory
that contain my files.
However, when I do cvs checkout CVSROOT/modules
the console print out
Cannot check out files into the repository itself.......
Can any one tell me what did I do wrong..
thanks
Peter
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From: -Art- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: triple boot
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:05:29 GMT
ME, Win2k then linux. Worked for me.
-Art-
Edward wrote:
> Hi,
>
> From my earlier post (taking the plunge) it seems that Mandrake is the
> easiest to install for a newbie like me. When I get my new comp, I plan to
> reformat and install Windows Me (for those games), Win2k, and Linux. What
> order should I install (i'm pretty sure it would matter). I'm guessing Me,
> 2k, linux?
>
> From Me-->2k I know that 2k automatically makes a dual boot. Would the
> mandrake installation autodetect those and make it's own bootloader?
>
> Also, if should I buy a boxed version of Mandrake, or should I download it
> somewhere (have cable) and buy a separate linux book?
>
> Thanks,
> Edward
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From: "Daniel Pfuhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE6.4 & Veritas ??
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:22:59 +0200
Hi
Is there anybody outside who has experiences backing up
SuSE Linux 6.4 with any product from Veritas.
I have a Linux Server in a NT-domain wich should be backed
up to a NT-BackupExec from Veritas.
Until now I didn�t find some information about wich agent to
use for this purpose.
It would be great if somebody would help me out.
thanx daniel
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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: cvs check out problems..cannot check out files into the repository
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:32:50 +0100
Peter Huang wrote:
Hi,
>
> I'm new at CVS. I started by set the CVSROOT environment variable.
>
What did you set it to?
> I create a directory called "cvsroot" in my home directory
I wouldn't call it cvsroot as this may confuse cvs (& anyone else) - was
this what you set CVSROOT to (HOME/cvsroot)?
<snip>
> Cannot check out files into the repository itself.......
>
> Can any one tell me what did I do wrong..
Yes you set CVSROOT to something like /root (or your $HOME dir) or you
are trying to do a checkout whilst in a directory under the value of
CVSROOT (ie if CVSROOT is /home/user - you are in dir /home/user/work
you would get this error) Remember CVS is not like RCS in that the CVS
controlled files are not under the working directory (and may not even
be on the same machine!). This gives CVS far greater flexibility
especially in a multi-developer environment. Note that CVS shares a file
format with RCS but does not require RCS to be installed.
What you should have done is create a directory somewhere else on your
system...
...say /usr/local/CVS_Repository (set CVSROOT to this dir). Then do the
cvs init as before. If you don't have root access on your machine then
you will need the help of your sysadmin to do this.
If more than one user is going to use it then you will need to set up a
group (say cvsuser) and make sure the required users are in this group.
You may have to play with file permissions to get all users write access
If you haven't done this already - get hold of the tkinfo & tkcvs
packages. Use tkinfo for cvs documentation (ie tkinfo cvs - sorry but I
can't cope with the 'normal' info program ;-() and tkcvs to browse your
repository. tkcvs gives you the (IMHO) brilliant tkdiff program which
you can use directly to compare two files, as well as use it to browse
files in the cvs repository from within tkcvs.
Regards
Phil Q
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Get rid of LILO in the MBR
Date: 29 Aug 2000 08:08:55 GMT
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:21:01 -0500, joe flasch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ....... I wish most installs would not put LILO on the MBR it is
>always a source of much confusion.
>
So would I ...
The one exception is if you make a linux server which would never
ever boot anything else. Also, if a win9x partition occupies all
available space below the 1024 limit you won't have much of a choice
either.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SuSE 7.0 install worse than 6.x ...
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:14:34 GMT
i just received my SuSE 7.0 professional distribution and neither
booting from CD nor from DVD nor from boot floppy started YAST2. the
manual says that it starts in ASCII mode (YAST1) if the video adapter
is not recognized. well, two weeks before i installed SuSE 6.4 and it
worked flawlessly with YAST2 ... :-(
anyway, i tried installing it with YAST1 but after about 20 minutes of
disc access (that only ionstalled 10 packages...) installation broke up
with a red error message that the installation was not successful. no
further information.
now that's a great start - i intend to replace windows with linux ...
:-(
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "weird" partitioning - how to make Suse 6.3 bootable? GeForce?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:37:54 GMT
Hi,
a few days ago I failed to make my Suse 6.3 (german) Linux operate as
planned. Why? I have a 16GB HD with two NTFS5-Partitions, both
primary. The first (2GB) is my W2K-System-partition, the second (10GB)
is for data / apps. i habe about 4GB left at the end of the HD and no,
I don't want to re-partition.
During installation I had to read, that LILO cannot access partitions
above the magical 1024-cylinder-border. What I *wanted* to do was save
the first block of the linux-partition to file and include this file
in the W2K-bootmanager which has no problem with large drives.
Unfortunately I didn't have a manual, so I tried to find a reference
online. Nothing showed up.
The second problem, however, was that I couldn't make X-windows start
with anything other than standard-VGA, because unfortunately I have a
GeForce graphics-adapter (ELSE Erasor X2) for which there are no
drivers supplied with Suse 6.3. It wouldn't even run in SVGA (well, it
ran, but I couldn't decypher any of the weird pixels on my screen,
which seemed to be text-mode, though).
All I ever wanted was a C-compiler, and I was hoping to be able to use
GNU-C++. I know from early experiences with linux on a 386 years ago,
that the GNU-compiler can cross-compile for a multitude of platforms,
and indeed I wanted to compile something for Win32 again... so, If you
know a good, free C-compiler that doesn't have to support a GUI (the
application has to be _fast_, nit nice) and that runs under W2K that
would also help.... ;-)
Frank
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