Linux-Setup Digest #522, Volume #19 Wed, 30 Aug 00 21:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Install Linux on IBM Netvista S40? (Ben Klausner)
why lots of bad hardware suddenly discovered upon linux installations? ("Dan
Jacobson")
Re: BIOS-->hdb-->LILO-->{linux(hdb);windows(hda)} ("Dan Jacobson")
Re: Boot Issue (Robert Price)
Re: Installing Mandrake over Caldera (Martin Racette)
Re: mount fails on hda2 (Rodney Loisel)
Re: Annoying X problem - PLEASE HHHHEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!!! (Bozzy)
Re: help a newbie(modem) ("Richard H. Reepe")
Obscure Sparq Drivers? ("Mike Patterson")
Re: why lots of bad hardware suddenly discovered upon linux (John Klaus)
Re: hummingbird exceed no login manager or anything (Tom Hoffmann)
Linux with CD Drive
Re: CGI Script - Web Feedback form? ("Andrew McCombe")
Help - CD-ROM won't play audio CDs. (Infamous Captain Potato)
Video woes (Jeremy Morris)
Re: Installing Mandrake on top of Caldera ? (Christopher Browne)
Re: tape drive help (bullwinkle)
Problems with c++ in new installation of RH 6.2 (john slimick)
Re: help setting up a DNS (Cory S. Moll)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (David Schreiber)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows (David Schreiber)
Re: help setting up a DNS (Black Dragon)
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From: Ben Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Install Linux on IBM Netvista S40?
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 20:55:49 GMT
Trying to install Linux on an IBM NetVista S40. Tried RedHat 6.1,
Mandrake 7.1, Debian, and Storm, but none could complete booting from
the CD.
According to one of the IBM web pages, several distributions are
supposedly supported, see
http://www.pc.ibm.com/europe/europeglobalnetvista/netvista_s40_the_tools
_you_nee.html. But there is no indication of special drivers, hints, or
anything else.
Has anyone solved this? Suggestions?
Thanks.
--
Ben Klausner
Redmond, WA
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Before you buy.
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: why lots of bad hardware suddenly discovered upon linux installations?
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 05:43:55 +0800
Often I see postings like
> > Well I am exhausted. I am forced to accept the reality, Mandrake 7.1
is
> > beyond my abilities. To those who have installed Mandrake 7.1 you have
> > my complete admiration. With more than 25 years of computer
experience,
> > much of it in Unix, I am totally defeated.
> What errors do you get? Signal 11 or 7 can mean you have a bad memory
chip
> in RAM or cache. Refusal of X to test/start can be an unfriendly video
> card. Do you get disk geometry errors? Are you using anything SCSI? Have
> you tried an install with the system stripped to the bare essentials?
True, good possibilities, but I still see a lot of postings where lots of
bad hardware is suddenly discovered upon Linux installations... One would
wonder why didn't these problems didn't appear before they changed from
other leading brand OS...
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BIOS-->hdb-->LILO-->{linux(hdb);windows(hda)}
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:50:04 +0800
Didn't work... Got "LI"<stall>
By the way, I notice when I change that part of lilo.conf, then do
dd if=/dev/hdb ...... | od -x -A x | diff ....
I see that the first part of the Master Boot Record of /dev/hdb
gets changed back and forth between the following two:
< 000010 0110 0000 b317 39a2 0221 0080 2201 8002
< 000020 0100 0220 0080 0101 00b6 0224 0080 2501
< 000030 8002 0100 0035 0680 3601 8000 0106 0037
---
> 000010 0110 0000 b317 39a2 0138 0f80 3901 8001
> 000020 010f 0137 0f80 0101 00b6 013b 0f80 3c01
> 000030 8001 010f 0035 0680 3601 8000 0106 0037
indeed, if I were to do lilo;lilo;lilo;lilo;lilo;lilo; not even touching
lilo.conf between steps, I would see the same alternation between these
two --- is lilo doing some kind of safety backup thing or serial flip
switch change differentiator? and why? I assume this early part of the
MBR is inconsequential to the whole operation.
By the way, can I or can't I leave /dev/hda totally unmodified [win98]?
Why can't I seem to switch control to it from lilo on hdb? [ASUS s97-v ;
award 4.51pg bios]
"Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ????? news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Okay, there's a solution for this too!
>
> this part:
>
> other=/dev/hda
> label=win98
>
> should be:
>
> other=/dev/hda
> label=win98
> map-drive = 0x81
> to = 0x80
> map-drive = 0x80
> to = 0x81
> table = /dev/hda
>
> (I'm not sure if you'll need the last line, but it doesn't hurt either)
> And again, don't forget to run lilo!
>
> Eric
>
>
> Dan Jacobson wrote:
> >
> > "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ????? news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, I now have BIOS set to boot from IDE Primary slave (hdb),
where I
> > have
> > > > a Linux native disk drive with Linux MBR where I'm hoping to have
it
> > ask
> > > > me the windows or Linux choice.
> > > Just add the following to /etc/lilo.conf:
> > >
> > > other=/dev/hda
> > > label=win98
> > >
> > > and don't forget to run lilo afterwards.
> > Doesn't work... must be something about me making the boot sequence in
> > BIOS now "D, A" [primary slave, floppy] causes windows98 to think it's
not
> > on primary master IDE...
> >
> > Anyway, it seems that indeed there is no other way than to tamper with
MBR
> > of hda, is that true?
> >
> > here's my lilo.conf
> >
> > boot=/dev/hdb
> > map=/boot/map
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > default=linux
> > keytable=/boot/us.klt
> > disk=/dev/hdb bios=0x80 <--is this a clue that it's a special case?
> > prompt
> > timeout=130 <--one or the other .. havent studyed up yet, never mind
> > delay=150
> > message=/boot/message
> > other=/dev/fd0
> > label=floppy
> > unsafe
> > #other=/dev/hda none of these worked anyway... at most just
hangs...
> > other=/dev/hda1
> > label=win
> > table=/dev/hda use this or not still no go
> > # unsafe
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hdb5
> > append="hdc=ide-scsi"
> > read-only
> > --
> > www.geocities.com/jidanni ... fix e-mail address to reply; ???
> > Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Price)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.slakware,alt.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Boot Issue
Date: 30 Aug 2000 21:26:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Use loadlin instead of lilo. Never heard of loadlin? That's because it
works so well there are far fewer questions about it.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:31:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm attempting to run Slackware 7.0 on a Celeron 667 with 64MB RAM and a
>15GB drive. I've used FIPS to create a 13MB win98-FAT32 partition and a
>2MB linux partition. The root linux partition is 700MB and is set to be
>bootable, the swap partition is 128MB, with the remaining free space
>left over for the \usr partition. The problem is that after completing
>setup and rebooting, immediately after the BIOS prompt I get a "Missing
>Operating System" error. Also, the creation of my LILO boot disk fails
>repeatedly with "not enough space" errors, even after formatting the
>disks for linux. Further, LILO itself fails during setup. I've tried to
>configure it manually and that seems to work, but I still get the
>missing operating system error.
>What am I doing wrong?
>
>
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>Before you buy.
--
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======================
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From: Martin Racette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Mandrake over Caldera
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:33:53 GMT
Ok guys,
I checked, and the "/home" directory is on another partition, but when
I'll install Mandrake, should I tell it to mount that partition as
"/home" or should I wait after the install is completed ?
BTW. I also put "/tmp" on it's own partition, should I mount it as
well or wait ?
Thank you in advance
Merci a l'avance
Martin
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From: Rodney Loisel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mount fails on hda2
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:34:49 -0400
Colin Watson wrote:
> Rodney Loisel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >physical C:drive is msdos (vfat) - Linux - msdos (vfat)
> >shows up on boot as hda1 hda2 <hda5..6...7.....8>
> > = (C:) (data:) (Linux /boot /root
> >/swap etc)
>
> [...]
>
> >[root@localhost zip]# mount -t msdos /dev/hda2 /mnt/dat
> >[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap]
> >[me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,
> > ts=0,ls=0,rc=0,fc=4294967295]
> >Transaction block size = 512
> >VFS: Can't find a valid MSDOS filesystem on dev 03:02.
> >mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2,
> > or too many mounted file systems
> > (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
> > instead of some logical partition inside?)
>
> Like it says - hda2 is an extended partition, according to the output
> above. You need to mount hda5, ..., hda8 separately. If you think you
> have another DOS-based partition, maybe it's somewhere else?
>
> --
> Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> "... and by God I *KNOW* what this network is for, and you can't have
> it." - Russ Allbery (http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/writing/rant.html)
the Linux partitions are the ones above listed <hda5-8> . Phisically there
is
1 W98 2GB Linux 1gb VFat: data 1gb
I used the existing partition in the middle that I previously had Linux on
last
year. I am familiar with the concept of extended and logical partitions but
since I created this Linux setup with the RH disk druid I an not sure where
the third partition can be addressed i.e. dev/hd?
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From: Bozzy <cbostock@=antispamremove=btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Annoying X problem - PLEASE HHHHEEEELLLLLPPPPP!!!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:43:12 +0100
Greetings.
Are you installing Mandrake? If so which version? Note that I didn't
install straight to 7.1, but upgraded fom 7.0. I simply booted from
from the install disk and configured X as part of the install process.
At what point did you try to configure X?
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 23:38:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory) wrote:
>In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Bozzy
><cbostock@=antispamremove=btinternet.com> writes:
>:>
>:> I have recently installed Mandrake 7.0 on my new PC:
>:>
>:> Athlon 600
>:> ASUS K7M Motherboard
>:> G400 Graphics card (32Mb)
>:> Mitsubishi Pro 710 monitor
>:>
>:>The problem is that that periodically, possibly anywhere between 30
>:>seconds to several minutes, my screen blinks. That is it goes blank
>:>for about a second after which the desktop display returns. I have
>:>tried upgrading to 7.1 of Mandrake, but that did not help. I am
>:>running KDE, but the same problem also manifests itself when I switch
>:>to Gnome. I did notice that when I try to configure my graphics card,
>:>specifying 32M, that when I go back in to configure it again it seems
>:>to reset it to a 16M G400, though I don't know whether this is an
>:>issue.
>:>
>:>Since upgrading to 7.1 I have selected my monitor from the list
>:>provided by the X-config utility and the Vertical and Horizontal sync
>:>rates match between my monitor manual and the XF86Config file.
>:>
>:>This is a really anoying bug that's driving me up the wall so any help
>:>would be appreciated.
>:>
>:>Thanks in advance,
>:>
>:>Clive.
>
>
>
>I can't help with your problem but I would like to know how you got it
>installed. I have a similar system to yours, only diff is the speed of the
>cpu, mine is 750. I can't get X to configure....I get an error saying that it
>can't find the file for the server SVGA.......any help?
>
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From: "Richard H. Reepe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help a newbie(modem)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 22:55:00 +0100
In article <8ojl1e$1f5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>hello everyone!
>i have just installed the free linux-mandrake 7.1 (CD1) i got from
>maximum linux magazine. i chose to install lin4win just to give it a
>try. everything seems to work fine except the modem.
>here's the spec. of my system:
>cpu- cyrix MII-333
>sdram-64M
>video card- Matrox Mill. G200 AGP
>Sound card-Sound pro
>modem- SupraExpress 56i-Sp
Say no more squire! I had one of these modems last week. Didn't work
either. Although it is supposed to be a proper modem, it appears to
function like a winmodem or soft-modem of some sort and Linux cannot
cope with it. I temporarily swapped mine for the external serial version
(SupraExpress 56e-Pro) and it is now working in both Windows and Linux
Mandrake 7.0
I would recommend a Courier V-Everything but I'm still waiting for mine!
Happy modem hunting.....
--
........Regards R2 (Richard H. Reepe)
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web-site: http://www.r2.org.uk
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From: "Mike Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Obscure Sparq Drivers?
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:34:16 -0700
I have an IDE Sparq drive as the primary drive in a cheap computer.
Although the drives are no longer in production, I got a drives and several
disks inexpensively.
I was able to get Win98 loaded on it, but haven't had
the same luck loading Linux (on a different Sqarq Disk _not_ dual boot).
Anyone able to make this work? How? What version?
Thanks,
Mike
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From: John Klaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: why lots of bad hardware suddenly discovered upon linux
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:21:59 -0500
For pretty much the same reason Ferrai's have to be tuned up ten times mo=
re
often than Geo Metro's. Welcome to the bleeding edge pal... :)
JK
Dan Jacobson wrote:
>
> True, good possibilities, but I still see a lot of postings where lots =
of
> bad hardware is suddenly discovered upon Linux installations... One wou=
ld
> wonder why didn't these problems didn't appear before they changed from=
> other leading brand OS...
> --
> www.geocities.com/jidanni ... fix e-mail address to reply; =BFn=A4=A6=A5=
=A7
> Tel:+886-4-5854780; starting in year 2001: +886-4-25854780
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Hoffmann)
Subject: Re: hummingbird exceed no login manager or anything
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:22:21 GMT
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:35:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>I'm trying to get Exceed to work with a Linux machine. I have
>configured it to use XDMCP-Query and pointed it to the machine, which is
>running gdm. (I've also tried linking prefdm to kdm instead)
>
>When I start up Exceed I get a plain grey screen as if X is running with
>no manager and no means of starting other programs (and certainly no
>means of logging in)...
>
>Any suggestions?
Is your Linux box configured to listen/respond to xdm broadcasts?
Check it in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.
>
>I have Exceed working fine talking to a solaris machine.
>
>
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>Before you buy.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux with CD Drive
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:29:11 GMT
I have an old Mitsumi 12X CD-ROM (CRMC-FX120T), and am trying to install
Mandrake 7.1. I have tried all the CD drivers that came with it, and am
wondering what else I can do? Is there a way to get other drivers of what?
Thanks.
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From: "Andrew McCombe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CGI Script - Web Feedback form?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:42:55 +0100
Try Matts Script Archive for the formmail script. It's very versatile and is
available from http://www.worldmart.com.
"KingCobra" <([EMAIL PROTECTED])> wrote in message
news:Xudl5.25475$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I need a simple cgi script to send info from a web based form. (Mailto).
I
> have perl installed and have checked freshmeat.net for a solution. I have
> found webfeed which looks like it will do what I want but it is asking for
> "Perl-Mail-Sendmail". I am sure I am missing some type of install.
> Anyway perhaps there is a libary of cgi scripts I can just put in the
script
> directory. All I need is a Mailto function.
>
> OS: RedHat 6.2
> Mail: Sendmail
> Web: Apache
>
> Any help is greatly appriciated.
>
>
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From: Infamous Captain Potato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help - CD-ROM won't play audio CDs.
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:16:45 +0930
Hello,
I am having trouble getting Audio CDs working on my machine (K6-2 500,
running Mandrake 7.0). I can use CD-ROMs without a problem, and I can
play mp3 files without any problem either (so, yes, the sound is
conencted up). When I insert an audio CD the machine cannot find any
tracks on the CD, and so therefore cannot play the CD.
Using Win98 I can play audio CDs without any problem, so it must be a
software problem, right?
Any help appreciated.
Cheers,
Anthony.
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From: Jeremy Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Video woes
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:48:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyone got any ideas/suggestions about setting up the
video mode on an Acer Travelmate 522TX? This has
the ATI Rage Mobility graphics and a 14.1 TFT screen
which goes all white and shiny whenever I try to start
Linux.
And for some reason I can't get a text screen on the
system, so I can't disable KDE from starting every time.
Using Caldera 2.4. All help gratefully received....
Cheers, Jeremy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Installing Mandrake on top of Caldera ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:18:49 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Martin Racette would
say:
>I would like to know if it is possible to install Mandrake 7.1 without
>erasing Caldera, I mean replacing the OS but not losing all the
>information was already written to disk
>
>I don't have any possiblity to move my /home directory to any other
>part of the disk(s)
Your only realistic possibility is to move /home data somewhere else.
This is the reason why you should _always_ have /home as a separate
partition from "/" (root).
Alternatively, I'd think the obvious alternative to be to copy /home
off to your backup medium.
You _do_ take backups, don't you? Linux may eliminate most of those
annoying "blue screens of death," but has no way of resolving the "Oops,
the disk drive went bad" problem. The only resolution to _that_ is to
have some sort of backup regimen...
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celebration within my castle walls. Any event open to members of
the public will be held down the road in the festival pavilion.
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From: bullwinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tape drive help
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:29:29 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> I need help with setting up a HP5gb external tape drive.
>
> thanks
>
> Paul
>
>
Could you tell us more, such as what type interface (EIDE ?), what type
of tape (travan 4 ?), what distribution (redhat 6.2 ?), what trouble are
you having?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (john slimick)
Subject: Problems with c++ in new installation of RH 6.2
Date: 31 Aug 2000 00:31:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After installing RH 6.2 (Zoot) over RH 6.0
on an i686, I am having problems with
compiling C++ programs. Given the following
C++ program:
#include <iostream>
main() {
cout << "hi mom" << endl;
return(0);
}
I get the following error messages:
In file included from /usr/local/include/g++/streambuf.h:36
from /usr/local/include/iostream.h:31
from /usr/local/include/iostream:6
from program:4
/usr/local/include/g++/libio.h:270 Invalid exception specification
/usr/local/include/g++/libio.h:271 Invalid exception specification
/usr/local/include/g++/libio.h:272 Invalid exception specification
/usr/local/include/g++/libio.h:273 Invalid exception specification
I must have a path or a linkage
problem somewhere but I don't
know where to begin to look.
Any suggestions?
The equivalent C program compiles
and runs with no problems.
The C++ program compiles
and runs nicely on a RH 6.0 system.
john slimick
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Cory S. Moll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help setting up a DNS
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:29:28 GMT
Black Dragon wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:36:51 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Michael Herzog' said:
>
> >Hi all,
> >i have problems to set up a DNS. My problem is that i want to know how a
> >Linux-Box must be configured (not the bind8).
> >Everything could be helpfull for me!
> >
> >Thanx, Michael
>
> 1) To reslove internet names, your ISP's dns server IP addresses must be listed
> in /etc/reslov.conf
>
> =================================================================
> nameserver 192.168.1.1 # I use a caching DNS server
> nameserver 24.92.226.13 # my isp's primary domain name server
> nameserver 24.92.226.174 # my isp's secondary domain name server
>
> 2) To configure your own DNS server, refer to the DNS-HOWTO. It explains what
> to do, very well.
Psst. That's /etc/resolv.conf for those of you trying "reslov.conf". Just thought you
should know :-)
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From: David Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:31:13 GMT
In article <8o7p03$1mr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let's reexamine the long suffering example again. You are using an
office
> productivity application. You are working on a document that
consumes 5 Meg
> stored in a non-XML file. You are given the option of saving it in
either
> XML or the program's native format. You choose the XML file format.
When
> you examine the file you have just saved you find the XML the
following XML
> "tokens" the the start of the file.
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1" ?>
> <!DOCTYPE RST "http://localhost/fubar.dtd>
> <RST>
> <R ID="0" >
> <F0>
>
> Followed by 6.5Meg of data of the follow kind
>
> alahasdfnaxvc9qweafva8712345lkf0asdf
>
> Followed by the closing tags:
>
> </F0>
> </R>
> </RST>
>
> What have you gained?
I'd say you haven't gained anything. In fact I wouldn't even call that
marked-up, since all you have done is wrap a couple of meaningless tags
around it. Possibly if the ID attribute means something you have
gained the ability to parse the ID tag using a standard XML parser,
which isn't much.
XML is no use to anyone if it isn't actually used for markup. There
isn't much point having a document consisting of one element and a
CDATA section.
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From: David Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:39:21 GMT
In article <8oc1of$v4d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> XML is something "new"; but, it is just a new implementation of the
same old
> idea. Take an old idea reimplement it, give it a new name, throw in
a few
> new term and a lot of hype. That is all XML really is
I disagree. XML might be an new form of an old idea, but it's been
done well and this time it has a lot of support. There are XML tools
out there - a lot of them - available on a lot of platforms and in a
lot of languages.
SGML might well do the same job - but is there a standard API for
parsing SGML that has the support of major software companies? Is it
available as an OLE object a Java implementation, and C++ library?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Subject: Re: help setting up a DNS
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:50:01 GMT
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:29:28 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Cory S. Moll' said:
>Black Dragon wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:36:51 GMT in comp.os.linux.setup,
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `Michael Herzog' said:
>>
>> >Hi all,
>> >i have problems to set up a DNS. My problem is that i want to know how a
>> >Linux-Box must be configured (not the bind8).
>> >Everything could be helpfull for me!
>> >
>> >Thanx, Michael
>>
>> 1) To reslove internet names, your ISP's dns server IP addresses must be listed
>> in /etc/reslov.conf
>>
>> =================================================================
>> nameserver 192.168.1.1 # I use a caching DNS server
>> nameserver 24.92.226.13 # my isp's primary domain name server
>> nameserver 24.92.226.174 # my isp's secondary domain name server
>>
>> 2) To configure your own DNS server, refer to the DNS-HOWTO. It explains what
>> to do, very well.
>
>Psst. That's /etc/resolv.conf for those of you trying "reslov.conf". Just
>thought you should know :-)
Right. And internet names are not `resloved' they are `resolved'! :-)
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