Linux-Setup Digest #580, Volume #19 Fri, 8 Sep 00 05:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: new mail from "Cron" ("Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]")
Re: Can't mount my Win98 drive (Eric)
Help Needed Configuring Remote Printer on SUSE 6.4 ("Tom Millington")
Re: Can't mount my Win98 drive (Eric)
WRONG HEADING - should be " Installing SUSE 6.4 on SCSI hard drives from SCSI CD"
("Tom Millington")
Re: HELP!!!!! Need help on linux installation!!!!!!!!! Linux Newbie question!!!!
(Eric)
Re: Helppp!! X-window-configuration problem (Eric)
Re: super mounting not working (John Travis)
Re: Linux GUI refresh rate/res (Eric)
Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning) (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
Linux Wont install!!!!Help!!! Newbie question!!!! ("glico")
Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning) (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
Re: HELP!! Linux Hangs during boot (Eric)
Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning) (Bernhard Mogens Ege)
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From: "Quiney, Philip [HAL02:HH00:EXCH]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: new mail from "Cron"
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 07:59:56 +0100
Devon Harding wrote:
Hi,
>
> Why do I keep getting this mail from the cron daemon:
>
Cron is getting upset - the last bit may reveal something...
> /usr/bin/news.daily: /var/lib/news/.news.daily: Permission denied
Check permissions on this file....
On my system...
[root@phard1e0 /root]# ls /var/lib/news -al
total 24
drwxrwxr-x 2 news news 4096 Jun 4 18:08 .
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Jun 5 04:02 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 0 Mar 2 2000 .news.daily
<snip>
It would appear to be present on my machine although zero length.
> error: bad top line in state file /var/lib/logrotate.status
>
...so check the file /var/lib/logrotate.status
For reference mine looks like...
logrotate state -- version 1
/var/log/cron 2000-9-3
/var/log/messages 2000-9-3
/var/log/secure 2000-9-3
/var/log/maillog 2000-9-3
/var/log/spooler 2000-9-3
/var/log/boot.log 2000-9-3
/var/log/htmlaccess.log 2000-6-5
/var/log/netconf.log 2000-9-1
/var/log/xferlog 2000-9-3
/var/log/wtmp 2000-9-1
/var/log/samba/log.nmb 2000-6-28
/var/log/samba/log.smb 2000-6-28
/var/log/httpd/access_log 2000-9-3
/var/log/httpd/error_log 2000-9-3
Regards
Phil Q
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't mount my Win98 drive
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:19:56 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don Mided wrote:
>
> > > No, the first disk contains Win98 and, according to fdisk, is formatted
> as
> >
> > This is a mistake, fdisk does NOT tell you how a partition is formatted,
> > it can only tell you a partition ID. It could just as well be entirely
> > unformatted what fdisk concerns.
>
> I don't understand. Here's a snip from my original post showing the results
> of running "fdisk /dev/hda" and pressing p to print the partition table:
>
> **fdisk reports my boot drive as follows:
> **Disk /dev/hda: 64 heads, 63 sectors, 623 cylinders
> **Units = cylinders of 4032 * 512 bytes
> **
> ** Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> **/dev/hda1 * 1 622 1253920+ b Win95 FAT32
> **
> It shows hda1 as a Win95 FAT32 partition. Is this fdisk report wrong? The
> man fdisk pages say "If possible, fdisk will obtain the disk geometry
> automatically." It then goes on to clarify that it is not the physical
> geometry "...but is the disk geometry MS-DOS uses for the partition table."
I'll try to explain this more clearly. You can create a partition table
for your harddisk, and label each partition with a partition ID. Windows
eg, uses this ID to identify drives/partitions that should contain a FS
that windows understands. Unfortunately it's a bad approach of windows.
After creating the partitions, they need to be "formatted" or more
correctly they need to have a filesystem placed on them. You can put any
filesystem on a partition you want, so if you create a partition with a
partition ID of "b" (=Win95 FAT32) then you can still run mke2fs on that
partition. The partition ID will remain to be "b", but the actual FS on
it is ext2. So fdisk can only show you the partition ID, not the actual
FS-type on that partition.
Eric
> > But if it's supposed to be a FAT FS, try to find out if the vfat module
> > is correct. Try to mount a floppy with a FAT FS on it (either format in
> > linux with "mkdosfs /dev/fd0" or format a floppy in windows) try if you
> > can mount that. mount command is: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> Hooray! This works, so now we know that the vfat module is correct. I think
> (I'm not really sure) that floppies are always FAT16 and, if that's true,
> then we still don't know whether FAT32 is causing the problem or if it is
> something specific to the drive and/or its format.
>
> The man fdisk pages contain a section titled "DOS 6.x WARNING" which I read
> but I could not make much sense out of it. It is possible that the drive
> was formatted by DOS 6.x before Win98 was installed on it, but I don't know
> that for a fact. But, it seems to me that the first thing that the Win98
> setup does is to reformat the drive anyway, so it shouldn't matter, should
> it?
>
> What now?
>
> Thanks,
> Don
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From: "Tom Millington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Help Needed Configuring Remote Printer on SUSE 6.4
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:21:48 +0100
I am a newbie trying to put Linux on another server, namely an old P133
(Altos) that has 3 x 4.5Gb SCSI hard drives and a SCSI CDROM. The machine is
currently loaded with an old copy of SCO UNIX. I have tried to use the Linux
boot floppy but neither the hard drives nor the CD are seen - in other words
it says I have no hard drives or CD player.
Where do I go from here? Help! I am a newbie so simple steps please.
Many thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't mount my Win98 drive
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:32:43 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don Mided wrote:
>
> "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Oh yeah, I just realized, you said that you didn't make a default
> > install.
> > You did not by any chance leave out support for msdos or fat, did you?
> I didn't think so, but judging by what I found below, I must have...
>
> > If you only have the vfat module, you will not be able to mount a fat
> > FS, because this uses the fat.o module, which in turn uses the msdos.o
> > module.
> > you'll need at least msdos.o to mount the FAT32 FS, but if you want more
> > functionality (long filenames eg.) you should get fat.o and vfat.o
> > I'm not sure what is exactly where in these modules.
> A "find / -iname v*.o" gave me several lines including:
> /lib/modules/2.0.36-0.7/fs/vfat.o
You're aware that you're running an old linux kernel?
At the moment 2.2 kernels are available. (even 2.4 pre-releases can be
tried)
> So, I do have that and that explains the ability to mount the floppy drive.
>
> But then when I did "find / -iname m*.o", msdos.o was not found! And
> similarly, when I did "find / -iname f*.o", fat.o was not found!
They should be there though, look at what you can find in
/usr/src/linux/fs
(might not be there if you don't have the kernel sources installed)
They must be compiled in the kernel, 'cause you can mount a fat floppy.
Oh just a hint, run updatedb once, than you can find these files more
easily with "locate" afterwards (you need to be root to run updatedb)
> So, it looks like you've figured out the problem. Thanks!!!
>
> Now, where/how do I get msdos.o and fat.o? Do I just try to find them on my
> Linux CD-ROM and copy them to /lib/modules/2.0.36-0.7/fs, or do I have to do
> some sort of install? Or is the easiest/best thing to simply re-install
> Linux from scratch and hope that I get it right this time?
As you are a beginner, I would suggest a reinstall as the easiest
option, but recompiling the kernel is much more fun :-) besides
that,you'll learn linux by doing this. Read the kernel compiling howto
(don't know the exact name) before starting. (ofcourse you'd need the
kernel-source for this)
Eric
> Thanks again for the help,
> Don
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From: "Tom Millington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: WRONG HEADING - should be " Installing SUSE 6.4 on SCSI hard drives from SCSI
CD"
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:29:13 +0100
Sorry - sent two messages and got the titles mixed up!
"Tom Millington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:...
> I am a newbie trying to put Linux on another server, namely an old P133
> (Altos) that has 3 x 4.5Gb SCSI hard drives and a SCSI CDROM. The machine
is
> currently loaded with an old copy of SCO UNIX. I have tried to use the
Linux
> boot floppy but neither the hard drives nor the CD are seen - in other
words
> it says I have no hard drives or CD player.
>
> Where do I go from here? Help! I am a newbie so simple steps please.
>
> Many thanks
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!! Need help on linux installation!!!!!!!!! Linux Newbie
question!!!!
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:37:21 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
M. Buchenrieder wrote:
>
> Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> >BTW connect the 2nd HDD as /dev/hdb (slave drive on the first IDE
> >controller),
> > because some bios'es aren't able to boot from the second controller.
>
> [...]
>
> That's not needed. As long as LILO is in the MBR of the first drive
> on the first channel, the /boot partition may reside wherever you want.
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
> Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
> Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
That sounds odd to me.
If that were true, then why can't you boot from other locations
inaccesible by the BIOS, like beyond cyl. 1024. It may be possible if
you remap drives, but I don't see any other way for LILO to contain a
valid address for /boot that the BIOS can interpret correctly. And
remapping causes more problems like wrong entries in fstab that you'll
need to resolve afterwards.
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Helppp!! X-window-configuration problem
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:46:58 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rafke wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've got Linux Redhat 6.0 .
> When I run Gnome or kde, or an other X-window program, I got resolution
> that is wrong : I see only a third of the screen, everything much to
> large. (my mouse pointer for example is three times as big as normal).
>
> I tried to use Xconfigurator, but it won't work.
>
> Can anybody help me to set this up?
>
> some details :
> Redhat 6.0
> Screen : Highscreen (vobis) MS 1595P
> refreshrates: 30-69khz and 47-120hz
> Videocard : a Creative 3Dblaster RivaTNT2 Ultra (agp)
>
> Please help ...
>
> Tnx
>
> Rafke
try <ALT> + or <ALT> - to switch between different virtual screen
resolutions
The right one is probably there. After you found the resolution you
want, make that the only resolution in the XF86Config file (located in
/etc/X11).
In there, there are parts like
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24 <---there are more parts, all
containing
<---a different colordepth value
<---there are probably more servers
listed <---too ,but you only need to
change the <---one you're using
(accel probably)
Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
if there's a virtual screen part, remove that
and change the line Modes to
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
or
Modes "1024x768"
Then all will be okay again.
Eric
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From: John Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: super mounting not working
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 08:19:18 GMT
In alt.os.linux.mandrake ascii_superstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>right...
>sorry to sound stupid but how would i go about rebuilding?
>do you mean recompile the supermount code under my new kernel?
Yep ;-). Just recompile and build in supermount support (either modular or
directly in if you feel like it). It is in the same dialog as the autofs
support was.
jt
--
Debian GNU/Linux
Storm [Hail]
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux GUI refresh rate/res
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:50:45 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have a dual boot Linux/win machine. On the linux side the GUI (GNOME
> or KDE) has rounded edges and is a bit off to the right of the monitor.
> Also it doesn't cover the whole monitor screen. I can change some of
> that with the monitor button settings. The resolution doesn't appear to
> be correct either as Netscape and other apps have strange colors. I sure
> I set it up for 32 bit true color at 800x600 during the install. Also my
> mouse runs kind of crazy in the speed. Is there a way to tweak the
> monitor settings and mouse settings without going through the setup
> process again? I tried the GUI xfree86 and my mouse will not land on
> anything. It goes from one side to the other or does not move at all (at
> the speed of light) with just a minor movement. So I can't click on any
> of the buttons there. I tried using the "script" but it is hard to get X
> to work if you make a mistake. I am running RH 6.2 on a AMD 333 with a
> Viloscity 128 vid card. the mouse is a three wheel MS intelli mouse.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Than you probably have the wrong protocol in use.
go to /etc/X11 and open XF86Config there with an editor.
change the mouse protocol from PS/2 to IMPS/2 and then your mouse will
work.
You can also manually edit the resolutions here, just give it a try,
though you may end up with X not starting, so back-up XF86Config first
Eric
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning)
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 08:55:52 GMT
>>>>> "Andre" == Andre van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> Understand you're pissed about this. But which card do you have exactly? I
> have a Dimand Viper 770 (TNT2 chipset) and have no problems whatsoever with
> the 0.9.4 drivers! In fact Quake 3 runs very smoothly.
> Since I started to poke around with these drivers i have the Magic SysRQ
> key compiled in my kernel. And i used it a couple of times to unmount my
> partitions before resetting while X crashed.
Glad for you that SysRQ works. My machine usually crashes so hard,
that nothing works. The only thing the machine reacts on is hardware
reset and poweroff (WinFast TNT2).
When the nvidia drivers work, it is fast and smooth. When not, pray
you dont loose anything when having to press hard reset.
regards,
Bernhard Ege
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From: "glico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Wont install!!!!Help!!! Newbie question!!!!
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:01:00 +0100
Hi, I tried to install my RH linux 6.2 for the first time this morning. I
booted using the CD-rom and and I arrived at the option screen, where it
asks you to install linux in text mode and expert mode and things like that.
Then I followed the onscreen instruction and pressed the "Enter" key and
then this comes up and my computer got locked up and hung:
Partition Check:
hda: hda1 hda2 <hda5>
hdb: hdb: set_multimode: status=0X51 {DriverReady Seekcomplete Error}
hdb: set_multimode: error=0X04 {Drive status Error}
hdb1 hdb2 <hdb5>
Ramdisk: Compressed image found at block 0
crc error VFS: cannot open root device 08:34
kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:34
and then the process stoped... I have to press ctrl+alt+del to terminate
the process and reboot.
What is it mean by Unable to mount root fs on 08:34??? and what is <hdb5>???
i only got 2 HD!!!! and how do I install linux??? sorry i am a newbie to
linux..
-HANS
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning)
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:02:22 GMT
>>>>> "Stuart" == Stuart Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would be very carefull with these new nvidia drivers (version 0.9-5)
>> as I have just lost my ext2 partition due to a crash caused by these
>> drivers. I am reinstalling redhat as I type this.
> [...]
> Do you enable DMA on your hard disk? If so, don't!
No DMA enabled. AMD chipset not recognized in RedHat kernels.
> With earlier NVidia drivers (0.92), I did experience lockups,
> and if I had DMA enabled on my IDE system drive, my filesystem
> would be corrupted (chunks of i-node control information replaced
> by junk) at essentially every lockup. With DMA off -- using slower
> PIO for disk I/O -- I still got lockups, but never any filesystem
> corruption.
Good for you (not loosing data). I did get filesystem corruption with
DMA off. It is less likely to appear with DMA off, I believe, but not
impossible.
> I haven't tried any of the more recent NVidia drivers (0.93-0.95)
> though maybe I'll try again now -- but with DMA disabled, for sure.
I did not have problems with DMA enabled and XFree86-4.0 and the 0.92
drivers. Only the later ones posed problems.
> I did report the above to NVidia and to this newsgroup. I never heard
> back from NVidia, but did see a reference from there to a web page
> I'd mentioned with a screen snapshot of an opengl rendering defect,
> so somebody *was* paying attention to bug reports.
I also reported some of my experiences and files bugreports to nvidia
without ever hearing from them.
> For free software, I don't expect help-line support. Sounds good to me.
I don't expect help-line support, just a feedback on bugreports. I can
live without that feedback if only I knew they were working that much
harder on removing the cause for the crashes instead of fixing minor
problems.
> Stuart Levy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bernhard Ege
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: HELP!! Linux Hangs during boot
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:03:16 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jesse wrote:
>
> Hi, I have installed RedHat Linux 6.0 on my pc. It has been working fine
> (for about a year now) without sound (I didn't bother setting it up) until
> recently, when I decided to try to configure my sound card. I used the
> 'sndconfig' program, and during setup I decided it was too much trouble (for
> now) to set up, so I cancelled. Everything worked fine until I tried to
> reboot Linux again. It tries to load the midi module (which it didn't do
> before) and just stops...I can't get into Linux!
>
> I just need to get into linux...can anyone help me? is there a way of
> disabling some of what it tries to load? I have a boot disk, but all that
> does is boot into linux, and still gets stuck while loading the midi
> module...I don't think I have a rescue disk...please, any suggestions will
> be greatly appreciated. Please send all your solutions/suggestions to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] asap. Thanks in advance.
I'm not sure about RH 6.0 , but at least later versions offer you the
interactive mode during boot (hit i IIRC). Then you can choose not to
load the modules.
Eric
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning)
From: Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 09:06:02 GMT
>>>>> "S" == S Umar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Did you compile the kernel module from source rpm? I have no problems
> using ANY of the nvidia drivers with my GeForce 256 and 2.2.16 kernel.
> I don't think using your ext2 partition had anything to do with these
> drivers....I think NVIDIA has done a great job putting together a
> install FAQ....As I said I have been using 0.92 through 0.95 WITH NO
> PROBLEMS!!! Let's be more fair.
I am as fair as I can be. Loosing my filesystem really wasn't what I
needed. Nowhere in the FAQ does it say that you could potientially
loose your filesystem, now does it.
I dont know what went wrong. I am not able to debug these drivers. I
have to disable Agp support using the nvidia drivers, and why is that?
Nvidia even doesn't know, but in Windows, it works. With agp, X hangs
and any attemt to kill it freezes my machine.
The FAQ doesn't mention any problems with the GeForce card, only
TNT1/2 cards. I am using a TNT2 card, which I might have forgotten to
write.
Neither of this changes my point. I lost my filesystem trying to make
the nvidia driver work. Why I lost it, I dont know. I did an rpm -ivh
on both rpm files, compiled with rpm -ba SPECS/NV... and installed the
resulting package.
The FAQ says nothing about the /usr/lib/libGL.a file which needs to be
removed. Nor does it check that the /usr/lib/libGL.so link actually
points to libGL.so.1.0.5 (which it does not if Mesa is installed).
So the rpm installation does not install properly and one need to
remove both /usr/lib/libGL.a and /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2.030300 (or
whatever the name).
Not doing so will cause a wrong GL library to be loaded and errorneous
communication with NVdriver results. This again can crash X and the
kernel (whatever it might be doing at that point, e.g. update the
filesystem).
I have now reinstalled redhat (necessary) and installed the 0.9-5
nvidia drivers, being very careful about what files I left behind and
what files I deleted/moved and managed to get an image on
screen (first after adding NvAGP 0). I am not using the 2.2.17 kernel
this time but am using the 2.2.16-21 kernel from rawhide.
As I managed to loose my filesystem easily in connection with
upgrading to nvidia drivers, I felt I had to share my bad
experience. This might cause people to check again to see if they have
done their upgrade right before starting X.
I will now test nvidia driver a bit, but am expecting it to crash my
machine. But if not, hey, great, to finally made it (except for agp
support, have to mail them about that).
Besides, you having no problems with the drivers only means that your
cpu/motherboard/graphic card combo is better supported than my
combo. We can't all be using GeForce cards.
regards,
Bernhard Ege
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