Linux-Setup Digest #604, Volume #19              Mon, 11 Sep 00 22:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Lilo trouble ("Tom Jalbert")
  GNOME Keeps Locking Up... Help! ("Ed")
  Re: Helixcode and FREE space! ("Ez-Aton")
  Re: Help, my keyboard is possesed! (James Lothian)
  Re: Large HD, Linux and Win2k ("Manoj M. Prabhakaran")
  Re: Help with apache, perl, and cgi (Peter Greenwood)
  Re: setting up a router ("Stuart Herd")
  Re: Helixcode and FREE space! ("ascii_superstar")
  Re: Pls Help! Internet Problem on Linux (Karl Heyes)
  Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning) ("Ez-Aton")
  Re: Helixcode and FREE space! (Bob Martin)
  not able to get a ftp session ("Armando (Andy) Stirpe")
  Can't Alter My Path, Can't Find My Path ("Ric")
  Re: ppp not quite working (Topher Cawlfield)

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From: "Tom Jalbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo trouble
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 16:34:28 -0800

There's a mini-howto article on how to use NT Loader w/ lilo.  You'll need
to peel lilo off your MBR record first by running lilo w/ the -u argument.

here's where you can find the article ...

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/Linux+NT-Loader.html



In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I've got a working Red Hat 6.2, but I boot from a floppy.
> 
> My partitions:
> 
> hda
>   hda1 13gb fat  with win98 and win2000
> 
> hdd
>   hdd1 28gb fat hdd2 8mb linux native  /boot hdd3 256mb linux swap hdd4
>   ~2gb linux native /root
> 
> I'm trying to get the NT bootloader to boot Linux but it keeps failing.=
> 
> I've even tried to install Lilo on the MBR on hda but then I get 'Li 01
> =
> 
> 01 01 ....'
> 
> I've got the latest version of Lilo.
> 
> Any sugestions?
> 
> 
> <johan>


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From: "Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GNOME Keeps Locking Up... Help!
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:34:07 GMT


I have RH 6.2 with Helix GNOME and Sawfish window manager.  I am having
major problems with GNOME locking up.  Sometimes I can Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
out of GNOME, but other times I need to turn off the computer.  I run
Win98 on the same machine with no problems, and Gnome crashes in just 2
minutes sometimes and other times in 2 hours, so I doubt that it's
overheating or anything like that. 

Any ideas?  Are there logs that I could look at that might help me figure
this out... I've been using Linux for ~2 weeks, so I'm a bit clueless...
THANKS!

-Ed


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From: "Ez-Aton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Helixcode and FREE space!
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 02:49:25 +0200

All I can think of is permissions.
 When it can't write, it might think it is space problem, but we all know
that computers often lie, and that it might be just a simple permissions
problem.

Do you install it as a root?

Ez.

"ascii_superstar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Fydv5.10363$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
> I just downloaded Helix Gnome and all the packages in windows as I have a
> winmodem :-(
> Well, I copied them across to linux and when to run the install program
> which immidiately pops up to tell me that I dont have enought free space
to
> download the packages to /var/cache/helix-code.
> I have pleanty of free space (about 4 GB)
> I have one large root partition (about 6 GB) and a swap
> I have tried using the -d switch to specify a different directory, but I
> always get the same message.
> I am using mandrake 7.1 with xfree 4.01 on a 6 GB hard drive
>
> Any ideas??
>
> thanks
> sergio
>
>
>
>
>
>



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From: James Lothian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help, my keyboard is possesed!
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:55:47 +0100

Yes, it's the ` (back-quote?) character. It tends to occur after
pauses in typing. I type a bit, I stop to think, I start again
and I get a free back-quote, courtesy of Linux. 

What's your motherboard?

James

Skip wrote:
> 
> Interesting.  Is yours the same "`" key???  And mine only does it in
> x.  Someone out there must have a solution to this....  We must be
> missing something obvious....
> 
> Skip
> 
> James Lothian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >My machine (based on a supermicro P6DBS) has been doing this for the
> >past
> >couple of years, with every Linux distro I've tried, both in X
> >(v3.something)
> >and at the console. If you come up with a solution, I'd love to hear
> >about it.
> >
> >James
> >
> >Skip wrote:
> >>
> >> I installed XFree86 4.0 this weekend, and now my keyboard types a
> >> single ` (the un-shifted tilde key) character about every minute into
> >> whatever application I am running.  It only happens in x, no matter
> >> what window manager I am using, and it seemes to happen in every
> >> application, text editor, console, whatever.  I didn't see anything
> >> strange in XF86Config, but I tried making some changes to the keyboard
> >> pertinent things in there, but nothing changed.  I have a Dell
> >> Keyboard (Model SK-6000 E) that is split down the middle, but for the
> >> most part, it is a standard keyboard.  I did not have this problem
> >> before installing the new XFree86.  Someone please help!
> >>
> >> Skip

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From: "Manoj M. Prabhakaran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Large HD, Linux and Win2k
Date: 11 Sep 2000 23:52:56 GMT

Thanks for all the helpful mails. So the 1023 barrier is indeed broken.
I first installed win2k (in the process creating an unused 20gig partition
for linux) and then linux. Initially I had some trouble (lilo didn't get
installed), but then I booted off the flopp, edited lilo.conf and
replaced "linear" with "lba32". it works.

mp.

In comp.os.linux.setup Manoj M. Prabhakaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>       I am getting a new PC with a 40 gig HDD. I am planning to install
>       linux (redhat 7beta) and win2k on it. I would like to know the
>       best way I should go about doing this. I am aware that there is a
>       1024 cylinder limit associated with LILO. So I would appreciate it
>       very much if someone could tell me how to partition my disk
>       (suppposing I give 20GB each to windows and linux). Also should I
>       first install win2k or Linux? And, do I use LILO or some
>       bootmanager of windows?  (I haven't used win2k before and am a
>       complete newbie there).

>       The configuration includes: Motherboard - Intel CA810E,
>     Hard Drive - Maxtor 40 GB EIDE Ultra DMA/66 Model # MXT-94098U8 

> tia,
> Manoj.

> -- 
> The program isn't debugged until the last user is dead.
-- 
An ounce of clear truth is worth a pound of obfuscation.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Greenwood)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help with apache, perl, and cgi
Date: 11 Sep 2000 23:18:57 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I'm running Mandrake 7.1:
>
>1.) there are two cgi-bin, which one is the right one ???
>
>/usr/lib/cgi-bin 
>
>and 
>
>/home/httpd/cgi-bin

If it's like RedHat, probably the latter.

>2.) I've chmod the XXXX.cgi files to 755, is this correct ?

It should work.

>3) I've tried a few counters and they don't work, either they do
>nothing, or I don't have permission.  I've tried counters that use SSI
>and others that don't.

Looks to me like an Apache configuration problem, maybe to do with having
a .htaccess file in the cgi-bin directory preventing access to it, or
more likely something in httpd.conf.

If you post the bits of httpd.conf that relate to your cgi-bin directory,
someone may be able to spot the problem.

As another poster says, check the logs (again if it's like RedHat, probably
in /var/log/httpd).

Good luck

-- 
        Peter Greenwood         [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Stuart Herd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: setting up a router
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 00:17:28 GMT

check out
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/network/

read the basic routing, and firewall doc's, should set you in the right
direction.

Good luck


"Darren Welson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8pjck6$qkr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am setting up a router/firewall on my home LAN.  I have a Linux box
acting
> as the router and windows boxes going through the linux box.  On my
windows
> boxes which NIC should I point to as my gateway, the internal LAN NIC, or
> the external (internet) NIC?
>
>
>



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Reply-To: "ascii_superstar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "ascii_superstar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Helixcode and FREE space!
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:18:58 +0100

yep
Logged in as root
Doesnt worked.
I have searched a load of newsgroups and no one seems to have had this
problem.
Its strange.
I have re-installed mandrake so its as fresh as its going to be.

Im clueless.....

thanks
sergio




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From: Karl Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Pls Help! Internet Problem on Linux
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:23:31 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I installed my Lan card (rtl8139) in Linux  tried  to use broadband in my
> linux. But it doesn't work. I use ifconfig eth0 to check it whether my config
> works or not. Linus doesn't show me the inet addr, Bcast, Mask and the
> interrupt for lan card. In netconf, I enter eth0 in device and rtl8139 as
> module, leaving irq and i/o blank. Also, dhcp is chosen.
> 

lsmod   - show modules loaded.
dmesg -  show system messages.
cat /proc/pci - show pci information

Check to see if pump or dhcpcd is installed.  

> In win 98, my card configuration is Irq is 11, i/o is 1400. How can I config
> it in Linux? irq=11, i/o=1400?
> 

Things to try out.

set a dummy ip address instead dhcp 192.168.1.1  should be ok to get the
interface to show up.  if it works then its a problem relating to the dhcp side
of things.

For a dhcp server  to give IP addresses  then it needs to know your MAC address.
 
karl.
  



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From: "Ez-Aton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: NEW NVIDIA DRIVERS (Warning)
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 03:50:17 +0200


I have them installed and running on 4.0.1 and kernel 2.2.16, and it seems
fine, except few lockups.

The lockups are not caused by the drivers, as they happen to me all the time
since I bought that damn card. I think it is malefunctioned.
I'll replace it tomorrow, and hope for the best.

Ez.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:lp4v5.20102$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.x moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 07 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>In comp.os.linux.x S. Umar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Did you compile the kernel module from source rpm? I have no problems
> >>> using ANY of the nvidia drivers with my GeForce 256 and 2.2.16 kernel.
> >>> I don't think using your ext2 partition had anything to do with these
> >>> drivers....I think NVIDIA has done a great job putting together a
> >>> install FAQ....As I said I have been using 0.92 through 0.95 WITH NO
> >>> PROBLEMS!!! Let's be more fair.
> >>> --
> >>
> >>OK then... Let's be fair:
> >>
> >>I've used .92, .93, and .94 on my TNT2.  Within seconds of starting most
> >>3D apps, my computer has completely locked up on me.  Couldn't even ping
> >>it.  Forced a hard reboot.  Spent 30 minutes fsck my hard disk.  Once,
my
> >>home directory was so screwed I had to restore everything from tape.
Now,
> >>perhaps nVidia isn't responsible for the fact that my home partition was
> >>screwed up, but their drivers *did* cause the lock up that led to
hitting
> >>the power switch.
> >>
> >>Let's continue to be fair:
> >>
> >>I sent a couple messages to the e-mail address nVidia supplied,
describing
> >>the situation.  I never got a response.  Not *one* response to that
> >>problem.  So, I visit the irc channel for them.  Although there were
> >>plenty of nice people there, *none* of them were helpful.
> >>
> >>So, in the grand tradition of being fair, nVidia blows me off as
customer
> >>so I blow them of as a manufacturer.  They've lost a customer.  And
until
> >>they change their attitude, I will *not* be coming back.
> >>
> >>Adam
>
> > I have gotten the drivers working with the following:
>
> > TNT on an Intel C300a, TNT2 on a K6-III/450, and my 11 year olds Cyrix
PR233
> > with TNT2 M64 (PCI) even, with no problems (once they were up and
running,
> > getting them up and running correctly can be tough though).  I think
most
> > people just have trouble following the directions! (used kernels from
2.2.14
> > through 2.4.0-test5, haven't been able to get them to run on 2.2.17
though)
> > --
> > moonie ;)
>
> I have them installed correctly...  It's not rocket science.  The kernel
module
> compiled and loaded.  No other GL libraries around...  Renamed the glx and
GLCore
> libraries from XFree86.  Double checked the XFree86.0.log file to make
sure.
> Had hardware acceleration going on the gears demo.  Start almost any of
the GL
> xscreensaver modules and my machine locks up hard, and I know I'm not the
only
> one with this problem.
>
> Like it or not, there *is* a problem with their drivers.
>
> Adam
>
> > Registered Linux User #175104
> >    http://counter.li.org
>
> > KDE2
> > Kernel 2.4.0-test5
> > XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
> > RAID 0 Striped
> > Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
>



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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Helixcode and FREE space!
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:09:31 -0500

ascii_superstar wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I just downloaded Helix Gnome and all the packages in windows as I have a
> winmodem :-(
> Well, I copied them across to linux and when to run the install program
> which immidiately pops up to tell me that I dont have enought free space to
> download the packages to /var/cache/helix-code.
> I have pleanty of free space (about 4 GB)
> I have one large root partition (about 6 GB) and a swap
> I have tried using the -d switch to specify a different directory, but I
> always get the same message.
> I am using mandrake 7.1 with xfree 4.01 on a 6 GB hard drive
> 
> Any ideas??
> 
> thanks
> sergio

If you have downloaded the rpm packages you just use rpm to install them

rpm -Uvh *.rpm

You may need the --nodeps --force switches also.
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: "Armando (Andy) Stirpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.rdhat
Subject: not able to get a ftp session
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:13:59 GMT

Hi everyone...this may sound like a very stupid question, but here it
goes....

I have a linux workstation (Redhat 6.1) in which i am having trouble
FTPing to ( ...trying to get access to any user account).  The
worstation retuns a "connection failed" message.  I am able to FTP to
other computers from the workstation as well as surf until I'm blue.  As
for security on the workstation, there are no entries in the hosts.allow
or hosts.deny files and the service is enabled in the inetd.conf file.

Any help or input will be greatly appreciated

Andy


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From: "Ric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't Alter My Path, Can't Find My Path
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 01:29:50 GMT

Here's the situation:

I'm a newbie logged in as root in KDE (I KNOW it's dangerous).  When I type
'echo $PATH' I get '/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin'.

In /etc/profile I found a path statement but it looks like it's part of a
sub-script and it doesn't match this path (it includes games).  I added a
'PATH=$PATH:/opt'  and an 'export PATH'.  I logged out and back in.  It made
no difference to my path statement.  I tried again with quote marks around
$PATH:/opt.  No difference.

I've checked the bash profile and bashrc.  I can't find where
'/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin' comes from.  I'm running Mandrake.

Where is the path hidden?  I've spent two days trying to find it on my own
following all the nice notes from LinuxNewbie.  I yield.  Help.

Thanks,
Ric





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From: Topher Cawlfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp not quite working
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:43:38 -0500

I agree that I don't have enough information to diagnose the problem, but I can
almost rule out the possibilities you mentioned.  How would I get further
information?  What would be helpful to know about?

I have selected an option with kppp to log in interactively, where I provide my
user name and password at the login prompt.  I can get authenticated that way,
and I can enter the command "ppp" at the prompt, and I get the usual string of
gibberish.  When I connect that way, the symptoms remain the same in both
cases.  On one dialup server I apparently connect but can't reach any computers
but my own, and on another dialup server I timeout after some message about an
unsupported appletalk protocol.  I'm not sure that appletalk has anything to do
with the problem, it may just be benign, coincidental message.  I've also tried
configuring ppp more "manually", using netconf instead of kppp.  I get the eaxct
same results with that method.

All of the HOWTOs, FAQs, etc. that I've read respond to questions of how to get
the modem working, all the way up until you get authenticated and enguage ppp.
I'm having problems _after_ that point, apparently, and I can't find any
information to help me out.

Any ideas?

 - Topher

Bill Unruh wrote:

> Modem incompatibility
> Wrong intialisation or authentication (eg trying to use login when they
> want pap or chap).
> Bad scripts.
>
> It is impossible to tell with the info you have given us.
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Topher Cawlfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]I'm having a problem with PPP on a computer using Mandrake 7.1.  I have
> ]about 4 modem pools to dial into at the U of I, and I can only reliably
> ]get into 1 of them (the one that's always busy at night, of course!).
>
> ]Two have had intermittent problems of one sort or another, where it
> ]sometimes connects but most of the time it dials in, modem connects,
> ]waits a long time "logging on", and then times out.  The diagnostic
> ]logs' last message (I'm using kppp) says something about being unable to
> ]negotiate an appletalk protocol.  It appears to have authenticated me by
> ]that point.
>
> ]The main number that I would like to use has never worked.  Okay, it
> ]worked once when I was trying all sorts of stuff with my hostname and so
> ]on, but I still have no idea why and I can't reproduce that.  I can dial
> ]in, and connect, but once connected I can't even ping any computers,
> ]including any DNS servers.  I am given a dynamic IP address that shows
> ]up with "route -n" (and the routing table looks fine to me).  When I
> ]ping my own address, I see packets transmited and received, and get a
> ]realistic round-trip time of 150ms or so.  But when I ping any other
> ]computer (by IP address since I can't reach any DNS servers), I only see
> ]packets transmitted every few seconds, and none received.
>
> ]All 4 of these modem pools are using the same ppp and PAP software,
> ]though the hardware is different.  I can boot into Windows 98 and
> ]connect to all of them without any problems.  I've never before seen any
> ]problems like the ones I'm having now, and have no idea how to even
> ]investigate them further.  I have another (older) computer at home
> ]running RedHat 6.2 and I have no problems with that one, either.   My
> ]new computer is using a 3COM PCI modem, which from what I hear is the
> ]only PCI modem that will work for Linux.  It took me some time to get it
> ]working, but it appears to me that the hardware works, at least.
>
> ]Has anyone seen problems at all like this, or even imagine what could
> ]cause such problems?  I imagine that I might have done something stupid
> ]when trying to get my computers set up over a little LAN here, using
> ]EtherFast ethernet cards and a hub.  But I pretty much did the same
> ]thing to both computers, and only one will connect to my favorite modem
> ]pool.  I'm at a loss.
>
> ]Any ideas?
>
> ]Thanks in advance,
>
> ]  Topher Cawlfield  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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