Linux-Setup Digest #679, Volume #19              Fri, 22 Sep 00 20:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  sound in debian ("Christopher Fonnesbeck")
  Re: Installing Win98, Win2000 and Linux on one PC?! ("Chris Arcand")
  Re: Installing Win98, Win2000 and Linux on one PC?! ("Chris Arcand")
  Re: No Idea why this lilo.conf works! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Ram Problem ("John D. Cassidy")
  Re: Linux having trouble with Athlon/Thunderdbird? (Mike Oliver)
  Re: Master Boot Record (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: Installing Win98, Win2000 and Linux on one PC?! (Bob Barker)

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From: "Christopher Fonnesbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound in debian
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:18:26 -0500

Hello,

I've installed Debian 2.2 (Potato) on my machine, and have been generally
successful at it, except for sound.  Despite loading the sound drivers
successfully either as a module or in the kernel, I am unable to get any
sound.  If I try and open the mixer, I get a message saying that the
haredware is not found, same for realplayer.  If I cat a sound straight to
/dev/dsp, there is just distortion.  Here is my dmesg:

Sound initialization started
<Sound Blaster 16 (4.16)> at 0x220 irq 10 dma 1,5
Sound initialization complete

And here is my /dev/sndstat

Installed drivers: 
Type 26: MPU-401 (UART)
Type 2: Sound Blaster
Type 29: Sound Blaster PnP
Type 7: SB MPU-401

Card config: 
Sound Blaster at 0x220 irq 10 drq 1,5
(SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 10 drq 0)

Audio devices:
0: Sound Blaster 16 (4.16) (DUPLEX)

Synth devices:

Midi devices:

Timers:
0: System clock

Mixers:
0: Sound Blaster




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From: "Chris Arcand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.os.linux,microsoft.public.win2000.applications
Subject: Re: Installing Win98, Win2000 and Linux on one PC?!
Date: 22 Sep 2000 23:17:14 GMT

Oh, and I want 98 so that I can play games on it.

Chris

"Chris Arcand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8qgp6t$9ci$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Can install W2K with 98 and Linux already installed?  I'm a comp sci
student
> who wants to use linux for programing, but can't find a c++ program for
> linux(Have one for Java) and I want something more stabel than 98 to
program
> in.
>
> Chris
>
> "Rootman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:8qdmap$fvb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I've been ignoring this thread but thought I'd chime in.  I have almost
> > what you want setup on my PC, I have WIn 95, Win2k, Win ME and Linux
> > all running on the same box and able to multiboot.  I also have Windows
> > 98 running under the Linux box using Win4Lin.  Before you ask I am an
> > IT professional and need to support all these platforms - thats why I
> > need them all.
> >
> > Some hints:
> >
> > You should make 2 primary partitions, one for Win 98 and one for Win
> > 2k.  This is not possible using DOS fdisk, you can do it using the
> > most recent Freedos version of Fdisk ( FREE http://www.freedos.org/ ),
> > Partition Magic ( COMMERCIAL http://www.powerquest.com/ )or Ranish
> > Partition Manager ( FREE http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/ )
> > Don't worry if anything complains about this just make 2 NON hidden
> > PRIMARY FAT32 partitions, activate the first one. I suggest make them 2
> > or 3 gigs.  Format them both as FAT32.
> >
> > Install Windows 98 on the first partition.
> >
> > Get this application XOSL ( FREE http://www.xosl.org/ ) , it is one of
> > the best multiboot loaders out there. I've been having problems getting
> > to this site but keep trying - it is EXCELLANT.
> >
> > Use fdisk or Partition Magic to make the 2nd primary partition active,
> > this will swap the drive letter, the first primary becomes D: and the
> > second C:. Reboot with the WIN 2K install disk.  Be sure to install it
> > on the C: drive which the second primary partition has now become.
> >
> > Use FDISk or Pmagic and make the FIRST primary partition active again.
> >  Boot to a COMMAND PROMPT ONLY is Windows 98 by stabbing the F8 key to
> > bring the menu up when the PC first boots. Now install XOSL and reboot.
> > When it comes up go to SETUP and ADD your 2 OS's.  It is fairly easy to
> > figure out so I won't go in to it here.
> >
> > After you get XOSL working reboot to the Linux CD or Install disk and
> > install Linux to a portion of the remaining HD.  Make the partition the
> > size you want.  When it comes time to set up LILO tell it to put it in
> > the FIRST SECTOR of the PARTITION and NOT the MBR.  Reboot and add
> > Linux to the XOSL menu.  You are in effect passing the boot from XOSL
> > to LILO to make Linux boot.
> >
> > Now for the rest of the disk.  I would go ahead and make it all one big
> > partition, Linux can easily read FAT32 and so can 98 and 2k, so why
> > chop it up any more than you have to?  Use FDISK, PMAGIC or Linux to
> > make it so.
> >
> > Good luck :)
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >   Shicheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello there,
> > > We would like to install Win98, Win2000 and linux (redhat 6.0)
> > > three OSs onto our PC. The PC has a 30 GB hard disk, 128 MB memory
> > > and a 700 MHz CPU.
> > >
> > > We would like to have the above three OSs installed; after the
> > > installation, we could select one of the three OSs during the boot
> > time,
> > > otherwise, the PC will be booted automatically to the default
> > > OS (Win 2000 is the default one). Each OS would use one partition,
> > > so the three OSs would need three partitions.
> > > Apart from these three OS partitions, we may also need to create
> > > two more partitions using the remaining space of the disk:
> > > one such a partition would be for the storage of linux's data and the
> > > other one would be for the data storage for both the Win98 and
> > Win2000
> > > OSs; so the last data partition needs to be seen by both the 98 and
> > the
> > > 2000 OSs.
> > >
> > > We would be grateful you could give us some advice on the above.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Shicheng
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>



------------------------------

From: "Chris Arcand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.os.linux,microsoft.public.win2000.applications
Subject: Re: Installing Win98, Win2000 and Linux on one PC?!
Date: 22 Sep 2000 23:15:41 GMT

Can install W2K with 98 and Linux already installed?  I'm a comp sci student
who wants to use linux for programing, but can't find a c++ program for
linux(Have one for Java) and I want something more stabel than 98 to program
in.

Chris

"Rootman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8qdmap$fvb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've been ignoring this thread but thought I'd chime in.  I have almost
> what you want setup on my PC, I have WIn 95, Win2k, Win ME and Linux
> all running on the same box and able to multiboot.  I also have Windows
> 98 running under the Linux box using Win4Lin.  Before you ask I am an
> IT professional and need to support all these platforms - thats why I
> need them all.
>
> Some hints:
>
> You should make 2 primary partitions, one for Win 98 and one for Win
> 2k.  This is not possible using DOS fdisk, you can do it using the
> most recent Freedos version of Fdisk ( FREE http://www.freedos.org/ ),
> Partition Magic ( COMMERCIAL http://www.powerquest.com/ )or Ranish
> Partition Manager ( FREE http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/ )
> Don't worry if anything complains about this just make 2 NON hidden
> PRIMARY FAT32 partitions, activate the first one. I suggest make them 2
> or 3 gigs.  Format them both as FAT32.
>
> Install Windows 98 on the first partition.
>
> Get this application XOSL ( FREE http://www.xosl.org/ ) , it is one of
> the best multiboot loaders out there. I've been having problems getting
> to this site but keep trying - it is EXCELLANT.
>
> Use fdisk or Partition Magic to make the 2nd primary partition active,
> this will swap the drive letter, the first primary becomes D: and the
> second C:. Reboot with the WIN 2K install disk.  Be sure to install it
> on the C: drive which the second primary partition has now become.
>
> Use FDISk or Pmagic and make the FIRST primary partition active again.
>  Boot to a COMMAND PROMPT ONLY is Windows 98 by stabbing the F8 key to
> bring the menu up when the PC first boots. Now install XOSL and reboot.
> When it comes up go to SETUP and ADD your 2 OS's.  It is fairly easy to
> figure out so I won't go in to it here.
>
> After you get XOSL working reboot to the Linux CD or Install disk and
> install Linux to a portion of the remaining HD.  Make the partition the
> size you want.  When it comes time to set up LILO tell it to put it in
> the FIRST SECTOR of the PARTITION and NOT the MBR.  Reboot and add
> Linux to the XOSL menu.  You are in effect passing the boot from XOSL
> to LILO to make Linux boot.
>
> Now for the rest of the disk.  I would go ahead and make it all one big
> partition, Linux can easily read FAT32 and so can 98 and 2k, so why
> chop it up any more than you have to?  Use FDISK, PMAGIC or Linux to
> make it so.
>
> Good luck :)
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>   Shicheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello there,
> > We would like to install Win98, Win2000 and linux (redhat 6.0)
> > three OSs onto our PC. The PC has a 30 GB hard disk, 128 MB memory
> > and a 700 MHz CPU.
> >
> > We would like to have the above three OSs installed; after the
> > installation, we could select one of the three OSs during the boot
> time,
> > otherwise, the PC will be booted automatically to the default
> > OS (Win 2000 is the default one). Each OS would use one partition,
> > so the three OSs would need three partitions.
> > Apart from these three OS partitions, we may also need to create
> > two more partitions using the remaining space of the disk:
> > one such a partition would be for the storage of linux's data and the
> > other one would be for the data storage for both the Win98 and
> Win2000
> > OSs; so the last data partition needs to be seen by both the 98 and
> the
> > 2000 OSs.
> >
> > We would be grateful you could give us some advice on the above.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Shicheng
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
> >
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.



------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No Idea why this lilo.conf works!
Date: 22 Sep 2000 23:20:31 GMT

Thanks very much Bill. This was VERY helpful and informative.


Bill Pringlemeir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: I was very confused by this concept as well.  It might do well to
: explain what lilo is doing when you run it in the documents.  I had
: looks at the LILO mini faq, info and man pages for lilo and lilo.conf
: and the /usr/doc/lilo-xxxx/ pages.  I still didn't understand how I
: was suppose to tell lilo where the boot files were.

: The revelation finally came to me that the lilo program using the
: active linux file system to look up the sector where the kernel is
: stored.  It then stores the sector information in the lilo code which
: resides in the the boot sector (of a partition) or the master boot
: record of the partition table itself.  This means that moving stuff
: around on the /boot partition could theoretically screw up the boot
: process.  You should always do an `lilo' after manipulating files
: here.  There are explanations of what `LI' and `LIL-' etc mean when a
: boot fails.  These are in /usr/doc/lilo-xxx/doc/tech.dvi (I believe).

: This is what I think Bill is trying to say.  `boot=/dev/hda' is the
: MBR and `boot=/dev/hda1' is in the boot sector of the first partition.
: I had trouble getting my system to work because I wanted to do
: something fairly bizarre.  My current linux /boot and / (root) are on
: a removeable hard drive.  I move this hard drive around to different
: machines and it can't be the /hda device.  Anyways, I hope that helps
: a little.

: The 1024 cylinder limit is where the boot files must reside in order
: that the BIOS calls can access them.  You can actually have one big
: partition, but then there is no guarantee that the /boot directory
: will remain in the first part of the drive... or at least that is how
: I understand the story at this moment.  I think the lilo code should
: say something better than 1024 cylinder limit.  It could look at the
: disk geometry and determine what the maximum size for a boot partition
: was and say something to this effect.  Like "The maximum boot
: partition is 1.4 GB for this hard drive".  That might be more
: friendly.

: fwiw,
: Bill

:>>>>> "Bill" == Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

:  Bill> boot= tells it where to put the bootup little program, not
:  Bill> where the kernel is located. Thus the first time you put it
:  Bill> onto the partition.  You must also have installed it into
:  Bill> /dev/hda as well. When you rewrote your system, things got
:  Bill> moved slightly and suddenly the boot loader in the MBR could
:  Bill> not find your system.

:  Bill> /dev/hda means put the boot up stuff into the MBR. hda1 says
:  Bill> something else will take care of booting up the system, and it
:  Bill> should look for the linux loader on hda1 partition ( needed to
:  Bill> for example uncompress the kernel.)

-- 

-T.

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From: "John D. Cassidy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ram Problem
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:25:46 -0400

I have just installed linux, and it will only recognize 64 of my 256 mb's of
ram.  Anybody have any ideas of what to do.  Remember, I am a new user, so
please be as detailed as possble.



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From: Mike Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux having trouble with Athlon/Thunderdbird?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:42:50 -0700

Carlos Moreno wrote:
> 
> Please tell me that this is just another stupid
> propaganda/rumour!
> 
> I heard from a friend of mine that I always thought
> was knowledgeable in Linux, that the Athlon CPU does
> not work properly with Linux? (well, Linux doesn't
> work properly with the Athlon).

This has been discussed several times in comp.os.linux.hardware .
The most common problem seems to be that RH6.2 thinks a T-Bird
is a PentiumIII and tries to disable the CPUID, which doesn't
exist, so you get a crash on startup.

The workaround has something to do with the x86_serial_nr
kernel option.  Set it to 1, or maybe to 0; something like
that anyway.  Try a Deja search in comp.os.linux.hardware .

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Master Boot Record
Date: 22 Sep 2000 23:51:04 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-Christophe FABRE wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Do you know how to re-initialize the Master Boot Record under Linux, as
>fdisk under Microsoft systems can do (fdisk /mbr)
[-]

If you've used lilo, then see man lilo. It backs up the MBR on
its first installation. You can just dd it too, no problem.

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl         \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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From: Bob Barker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.os.linux,microsoft.public.win2000.applications
Subject: Re: Installing Win98, Win2000 and Linux on one PC?!
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:03:44 GMT

every linux distro has a c++ compiler packaged with it.  you may just
have to install it...g++ comes to mind immediately..

On 22 Sep 2000 23:15:41 GMT, "Chris Arcand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Can install W2K with 98 and Linux already installed?  I'm a comp sci student
>who wants to use linux for programing, but can't find a c++ program for
>linux(Have one for Java) and I want something more stabel than 98 to program
>in.
>
>Chris
>
>"Rootman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8qdmap$fvb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I've been ignoring this thread but thought I'd chime in.  I have almost
>> what you want setup on my PC, I have WIn 95, Win2k, Win ME and Linux
>> all running on the same box and able to multiboot.  I also have Windows
>> 98 running under the Linux box using Win4Lin.  Before you ask I am an
>> IT professional and need to support all these platforms - thats why I
>> need them all.
>>
>> Some hints:
>>
>> You should make 2 primary partitions, one for Win 98 and one for Win
>> 2k.  This is not possible using DOS fdisk, you can do it using the
>> most recent Freedos version of Fdisk ( FREE http://www.freedos.org/ ),
>> Partition Magic ( COMMERCIAL http://www.powerquest.com/ )or Ranish
>> Partition Manager ( FREE http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/ )
>> Don't worry if anything complains about this just make 2 NON hidden
>> PRIMARY FAT32 partitions, activate the first one. I suggest make them 2
>> or 3 gigs.  Format them both as FAT32.
>>
>> Install Windows 98 on the first partition.
>>
>> Get this application XOSL ( FREE http://www.xosl.org/ ) , it is one of
>> the best multiboot loaders out there. I've been having problems getting
>> to this site but keep trying - it is EXCELLANT.
>>
>> Use fdisk or Partition Magic to make the 2nd primary partition active,
>> this will swap the drive letter, the first primary becomes D: and the
>> second C:. Reboot with the WIN 2K install disk.  Be sure to install it
>> on the C: drive which the second primary partition has now become.
>>
>> Use FDISk or Pmagic and make the FIRST primary partition active again.
>>  Boot to a COMMAND PROMPT ONLY is Windows 98 by stabbing the F8 key to
>> bring the menu up when the PC first boots. Now install XOSL and reboot.
>> When it comes up go to SETUP and ADD your 2 OS's.  It is fairly easy to
>> figure out so I won't go in to it here.
>>
>> After you get XOSL working reboot to the Linux CD or Install disk and
>> install Linux to a portion of the remaining HD.  Make the partition the
>> size you want.  When it comes time to set up LILO tell it to put it in
>> the FIRST SECTOR of the PARTITION and NOT the MBR.  Reboot and add
>> Linux to the XOSL menu.  You are in effect passing the boot from XOSL
>> to LILO to make Linux boot.
>>
>> Now for the rest of the disk.  I would go ahead and make it all one big
>> partition, Linux can easily read FAT32 and so can 98 and 2k, so why
>> chop it up any more than you have to?  Use FDISK, PMAGIC or Linux to
>> make it so.
>>
>> Good luck :)
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>   Shicheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hello there,
>> > We would like to install Win98, Win2000 and linux (redhat 6.0)
>> > three OSs onto our PC. The PC has a 30 GB hard disk, 128 MB memory
>> > and a 700 MHz CPU.
>> >
>> > We would like to have the above three OSs installed; after the
>> > installation, we could select one of the three OSs during the boot
>> time,
>> > otherwise, the PC will be booted automatically to the default
>> > OS (Win 2000 is the default one). Each OS would use one partition,
>> > so the three OSs would need three partitions.
>> > Apart from these three OS partitions, we may also need to create
>> > two more partitions using the remaining space of the disk:
>> > one such a partition would be for the storage of linux's data and the
>> > other one would be for the data storage for both the Win98 and
>> Win2000
>> > OSs; so the last data partition needs to be seen by both the 98 and
>> the
>> > 2000 OSs.
>> >
>> > We would be grateful you could give us some advice on the above.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Shicheng
>> >
>> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> > Before you buy.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.
>


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