Linux-Setup Digest #715, Volume #19 Thu, 28 Sep 00 03:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Diamond MonsterSound/original drivers? (Steve Bradley)
Re: Timeserver for RH 6.1 or 6.2 (David M. Cook)
Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Implications (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: How can I hide printers? ("David ..")
Orb 2.2gb Zip style removable disk drive. (schuetzen - RKBA!)
Re: it's official: GeForce GTS doesn't work with SuSE 7.0! (moonie;))
Re: HELP: SiteCom PCMCIA ethernet chip? (Donald Becker)
Re: LILO AND RAID0 (moonie;))
Re: NVIDIA GeForce 2MX (moonie;))
Re: What's the best Linux MP3 encode ? (moonie;))
Re: IBM T20/A20 ThkPd: mini-PCI Ethernet 100/10Mbps... supported?
Re: Mandrake Boot Problems (Eric Laffoon)
Re: Redhat6.1 -> Mandrake7.1 conversion? (Eric Laffoon)
Re: Install of SoundBlaster 64 AWE (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DSt=E9phane?= Lebrun)
Re: Orb 2.2gb Zip style removable disk drive. (E J)
Re: setuid problem? (Jack Kessler)
Re: HELP: How to use FTP or should I turn to Windows (Robert Kiesling)
Re: man and info pages in wrong language ("Kenan Esau")
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From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diamond MonsterSound/original drivers?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 04:06:26 GMT
Don Johnson wrote:
> Do they exist for linux?
>
If its the Monster Sound MX300 - No. There are drivers put out by a group
on Soucreforge that are really good (www.sourceforge.net, search for
aureal), but they have issues with some motherboard chipsets and/or
videocards. Mine kept locking up the computer when used with a VIA chipset
and NVIDIA video card.
--
Steve Bradley
Registered Linux User#187404
(register at www.linuxcounter.org)
ICQ#92564221
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Timeserver for RH 6.1 or 6.2
Date: 28 Sep 2000 04:15:49 GMT
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:04:08 -0400, jhuman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Does anyone know where I can find a timeserver (Redhat) for my internal LAN?
Look for xntp or ntp on your distro CD.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 04:12:06 GMT
Perhaps the best way to think about these implications I have raised is
to consider the nature of process based systems. Both computer systems
and life at the cellular level are process based.
* Every process has to have a distribution package of some sort.
* Successful processes will be sought out and displace less
successful ones. This results in more distribution packages
for the successful processes.
* Processes are very difficult to develop. Once one has been
developed, it benefits process based systems to acquire them
and propagate them.
* A large library of processes helps to support process based
systems, even if only a few of those processes are installed
at any one time.
Perhaps the biggest difference between cells and computer systems is
that cells don't have an operating system. Or is this really a
difference? After all, while we package software together and call it
an operating system, is there really any technological merit to the
term?
Drivers are programs that provide a uniform interface to a range of
hardware. Can I have drivers without an operating system? Sure.
Unless having drivers alone constitutes an operating system?
Multitasking is usually an operating system function. But many
computers with operating systems do not support multitasking, and many
applications support their own multitasking apart from that supplied by
the operating system.
Windows is proof that you can have an operating system without memory
management.
Likewise, the APIs provided by an operating system really amount to
libraries of software, and C compilers all provide code reuse without
having to have code supplied by an operating system.
Perhaps I am missing something, but ever since Microsoft "integrated" a
browser into their Operating System, the term has increasingly taken
the flavor of marketing bundle, a general term for whatever drivers,
libriaries, services, and applications one cares to tie together.
If operating systems don't really exist, perhaps we should examine how
we can break them up into even smaller pieces. Linux has naturally
moved that direction, but perhaps it can be taken even further. This
would allow better configuration management simply because there is
less code in the system in the first place. And less intersection
between code. Less code, more independence generally leads to faster,
more reliable systems.
Paul Snow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 04:25:20 GMT
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 04:12:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Perhaps the biggest difference between cells and computer systems is
>that cells don't have an operating system.
What is the nucleus all about then?
(The term `nucleus' is a even synonym for `kernel', by the way).
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I hide printers?
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:31:33 -0500
Jonathan Burgin wrote:
>
> I have a school network, WIN2k server, fibre gigabit backbone with 5
> classrooms each with 30 Win9x clients. The classrooms are not in the same
> building - 2 of them are 600 yards apart! Each classroom has a network
> printer, running off a JetDirect card.
> Students can 'see' all the printers and so, of course, they sometimes print
> to the wrong one (not always by accident, I guess!!). I've been told that
> the only way to hide printers is to run WIN2k clients - that means 150 WIN2k
> licences plus more RAM in each pc. (So that's how Gates got so rich!!).
>
> If I install a Linux server with Samba, can I configure it so that each
> classroom is a group and can see only the printer in that room? Or is there
> anohter way....
> TIA
Yes just don't give permissions for each different classroom or group to
have access to the other printers. You can do what you want for free if
you want to download linux. Welcome to Open-Source!
Best of luck!
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: schuetzen - RKBA! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Orb 2.2gb Zip style removable disk drive.
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:49:25 -0500
I have obtained one of these but am hearing all kinds of horror stories about
their dependability and lack of support by Linux.
Anyone with experience in these and any suggestions?
Helluva good idea and beats the heck out of my Zip 100.
But,...
thanks
chas
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: it's official: GeForce GTS doesn't work with SuSE 7.0!
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:16:07 -0400
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>after 4 weeks of installation, the SuSE support told me that the
>current SuSE Linux 7.0 version does not support my graphics card (ELSA
>Gladiac). On their website, they say the opposite
>(http://www.suse.de/de/produkte/susesoft/linux/neuheiten.html).
>
>EIther the support team doesn't feel like helping me anymore or they
>announcements of supported hardware is simply wrong. :-(
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Try this, it works if you follow it to the letter:
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/distros/mandrake/mdk_nvidia.html
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald Becker)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: HELP: SiteCom PCMCIA ethernet chip?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 05:18:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
McManus Leo Root DSP Consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a SiteCom PCMCIA 10/100 ethernet card on my TravelMate 4000M.
>
>I have contacted SiteCom in the Netherlands, but get no reply so am
>unable to find out what ethernet chip it is using. There is seemingly no
>information in the manual or on the card itself.
There are only a handful of CardBus 10/100 chips, and only two PCMCIA 10/100
chips, both NE2000 clones.
>It has a Redhat 6.0 driver and has a module called lna100.o but I am
>running SuSE6.3. I have tried to use the module, but I get no reports on
>the detection taking place and if I try an INSMOD, it reports it cannot
>find the module. If I do an IFCONGIG I see no eth0.
Hmmm, only a *.o file? That's almost certainly a license violation.
Does it include a copy of the GPL and an offer for the source code at
nominal cost? If not, do 'strings lna100.o' to see what driver it is, and
post a report. I do defend the GPL (even if slashdot always gets the story
wrong).
--
Donald Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Scyld Computing Corporation http://www.scyld.com
410 Severn Ave. Suite 210 Beowulf Clusters / Linux Installations
Annapolis MD 21403
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: LILO AND RAID0
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:20:20 -0400
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Emilio Federici wrote:
>Hi everybody! Since I installed software RAID0 on my system I've been
>booting with Win98 and Linux with loadlin. But now I'd like to upgrade
>to Win2000 and so I have to use LILO wich seems not able to install on
>the RAID0:
>
>LILO version 21.5-1, Copyright (C) 1992-1998 Werner Almesberger
>Extensions beyond version 21 Copyright (C) 1999-2000 John Coffman
>Released 24-Aug-2000 and compiled at 16:25:00 on Sep 7 2000.
>Reading boot sector from current root. Merging with /boot/boot.b Fatal:
>Only RAID1 devices are supported for boot images
>
>Can anybody help me?
>--
>Emilio Federici
>NUOVO INDIRIZZO-> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <- NUOVO INDIRIZZO
>ICQ:27013758
Try this how-to:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Boot+Root+Raid+LILO.html
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NVIDIA GeForce 2MX
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:21:57 -0400
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Simon Tatum wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I am having problems getting my GeForce 2 MX video card to work under
>Mandrake
>7.1. The installation program selects the GeForce 256 card and does not have
>a listing for mine. Each time I try to configure the card through
>XConfigurator
>or Xfdrake it just crashes as soon as I try to test the config. Has anyone
>else
>succeeded in using this card????
>
>Thank you
>Si.
Yes try this:
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/distros/mandrake/mdk_nvidia.html
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's the best Linux MP3 encode ?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:24:07 -0400
On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, John Beardmore wrote:
>In article <8qd3tq$bnm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Martin Ruckert
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>>lame !
>
>Why ? And does it do vbr encoding ?
>
>
>Cheers, J/.
>--
>John Beardmore
Just found out that yes, it will do vbr encoding, check out the readme files.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: IBM T20/A20 ThkPd: mini-PCI Ethernet 100/10Mbps... supported?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 05:30:04 -0000
I've also been looking at the T20,T21. The specs read that the card comes
with either 3Com ethernet/3Com modem or Intel ethernet/Lucent modem. I'm
wondering which would be better, and am not finding any info on it...
Any ideas?
Lynda
John Hovell wrote:
>
> Valentin --
>
> Valentin Guillen wrote:
>
> > I am using Intel EtherEx Pro/100B PCI LAN adapters in a couple of boxes
> > on my home network and they come up automatically in any version of
> > Linux I've tried on those boxes, and I've had several distros over the
> > last 5 years on some of these network cards.
> >
> > These cards are now out of production. They contain the INTEL S82557
> > chip as the main controller on the card.
>
> Hmm... I wonder if we are talking about the same chipset. This machine
is
> brand new and I thought it was the current Intel EtherExpress PRO 10/100.
> Maybe I'm wrong.
>
> > I've had my laptop for 2 1/2 years now and have been quite pleased with
> > it. It's a Hitachi VisionBook Pro. Here's why.
>
> <snip>
>
> Hmm... sounds a bit like a sales pitch to me :-). Well, the 25% employee
> discount with IBM really makes a bit of difference for me; not to
mention I
> think I'm fairly close to victory considering they sell the same machine
> with Caldera and the same NIC as an option... All I need to do is
confirm it
> actually works :-).
>
> > Good Luck with your upcomming purchase!
>
> Thanks... apparently, I'll need it :->.
>
> Thanks for the response...
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
--
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From: Eric Laffoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake Boot Problems
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:40:25 -0700
Diego Rivera wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I've recently installed Mandrake 7.1 on my Athlon 700MHz, 256MB @ my
> office.
I too am running this configurattion in my office.
>
> It used to be running Mandrake 6.0 (which I still have on a separate
> drive), but now some weird shit problems have arisen:
>
> 1) First installation went fine, but when booting Mandrake for the first
> time it died starting the hard drive optimizations for my second hard
> disk (mind you, I need it to move a lot of work and stuff to the new
> hard
> drive).
If they are on the same IDE channel you could be asking for trouble. I have
read that fast and slow drives can have lots of trouble togher and that it
is actually more a harware issue than a Linux issue.
>
> 2) Second installation went fine, and before booting, I copied the
> 2.2.16 kernel/modules/everything over and created the image for it in
> lilo. This installation booted fine (except some weird "missing
> symbols" problems) - even all the way to KDE, and I got to copy most of
> my stuff over from the old HD over to the new one. BUT (this is the
> kicker), I changed /etc/inittab to have 8 tty's active (Alt-F1 thru
> Alt-F8, Alt-F9 = X11 ). Now, it locks up when it tries to start httpd
> (apache) !!!!!! As if that wasn't weird enough, I try using Interactive
> startup, and skip httpd. After this, it boots "fine", but when it comes
> time to start X, it locks up again on a black screen!!
>
> Tomorrow I'm going to try removing the old hard drive and seeing if it
> boots correctly, but what gets me is: How can it be locking up while
> starting APACHE of all things!?!??!?!
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> BTW: Video card is an nVidia RIVA 128ZX (I know!!! but how can a
> programmer justify buying a bigger-badder-better video card when he's
> not supposed to be playing games??? :) )
>
> What's weird is that the first boot, X started fine!!!! NO PROBLEMS!!!
Welcome to 7.1. Wait till you install a compiled program in KDE and
/usr/bin/updatemenus wipes it from your menu because it is not a Debian
install... then you write Mandrake and they tell you that you are a dolt
and this is better and you Will like it.
If you have an apache boot problem and lost X... I can't believe how SH$TTY
and common this is with the new Mandrake... log on as root and do a df. If
your root partition holds /var and is full you are screwed and can't start
X. Look in /var/log/httpd with a du. If it is huge wipe your logs and
consider upgrading from the 7.1 beta, but not to the 7.2 beta because I
tried to remove the whacky KDE in in on my wife's machine and install KDE
from source to get rid of those menus that go 3 and 4 deep and look like
they were laid out by drunks... now it want's to boot GNOME. (Butt ugly in
my opinion compared to KDE 2) There is no /etc/X11/window-managers file in
mdk 7.2!!! I got KDE to come up but it still loads the GNOME window manager.
In my opinion the last good version of Mandrake was 7.0. 7.1 is reperable
and 7.2 is looking like they really went out of their way to enforce thier
way or the highway.
Good luck
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
Eric Laffoon
A member of the Quanta+ Web development team
http://quanta.sourceforge.net
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From: Eric Laffoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat6.1 -> Mandrake7.1 conversion?
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:44:09 -0700
Chris wrote:
> Since Redhat 6.1 works *so* well, I've been wanting to install Mandrake
> 7.1 instead. However, whenever I startup from the Mandrake floppy, it
> hangs at "Initializing CDROM". I was wondering if I could *CONVERT* my
> Redhat installation into a Mandrake installation by just installing the
> necessary packages from the CD. Has anyone ever tried this? Is it even
> possible?
>
> Chris
It's possible... probably, but look for about a 6-12 hour install. It seems
it is nobody's fault it takes so long. mdk 7.1 still takes nearly 2 hours
on my Athlon 700 with 256 MB RAM. Go figure.
In all likelihood this is a difficult and problematic upgrade. You can also
install and reformat your / and /usr partitions while leaving your home and
preserve all you data and settings for KDE and GNOME and such. You still
have to re-install your favorite programs that were not on the CD (like
Quanta ;) but it might be a better option depending.
--
Eric Laffoon
A member of the Quanta+ Web development team
http://quanta.sourceforge.net
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DSt=E9phane?= Lebrun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install of SoundBlaster 64 AWE
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:55:39 +0200
Really big thanks,
it works fine.
Jean-St�phane Lebrun
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Orb 2.2gb Zip style removable disk drive.
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:12:04 -0700
"schuetzen - RKBA!" wrote:
> I have obtained one of these but am hearing all kinds of horror stories about
> their dependability and lack of support by Linux.
> Anyone with experience in these and any suggestions?
> Helluva good idea and beats the heck out of my Zip 100.
> But,...
>
> thanks
> chas
http://www.nexuscomputing.com/~linuxorb/
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From: Jack Kessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setuid problem?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 00:00:35 -0700
Thanks very much. I followed the second part of your message about pppd and chat and
it
worked perfectly. This was a big step forward because I want to be able to share my
machine
with my housemates, and they have to be able to reach the ISP from their own accounts.
I also want them to be able to use Star Office from their accounts.
I am not sure I understood what you were telling me in the first part of your reply,
about
how to set up Star Office so it will run from non-root accounts.
Was I supposed to run soffice with -net option from root or from non-root? From an X
terminal or from the command line? None seemed to have any effect.
Running setup from either account from Gnome got me a screen which gave me options to
reinstall, uninstall or repair the installed StarOffice, but nothing about setting up
files
in my home directory. Neither the reinstall nor repair options did anything I could
discern.
Thanks again.
Bill Unruh wrote:
> In <8qrnh3$a9n$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jack Kessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>writes:
>
> ]I have installed StarOffice 5.1 (which is terrific software, by the way) but
> ]can only run it when logged in as root. The privileges on 'soffice' are set
> ]to provide execute privileges to everyone, but nothing happens when I click
> ]on the icon if I am not root.
>
> Perhaps you did not run soffice with the -net option? Thereafter each
> user has to run setup themselves to set up about 2MB in their home
> directory.
>
> ]I have found a similar result when I try to run the 'pppon' file (which I
> ]wrote as root, per the excellent Unruh HOWTO and also gives everyone execute
> ]privilege.). It calls pppd. When it does, the non-root user gets the error
> ]message, "pppd is not setuid=root". There are man pages for setuid and its
> ]friend getuid, but I don't see either command on my system anywhere (Red Hat
> ]6.2), not even with find.
>
> It is on that page
> cd /usr/sbin
> chmod a+rx pppd chat
> chmod u+s pppd --- this sets suid
> chmod a+rw /dev/ttyS?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Kiesling)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: How to use FTP or should I turn to Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Sep 2000 02:51:04 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sharon Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Symptom: I've never been able to login!
>I suspect teh ftp client sends some thing to the server
>which is misinterpreted by the sever as bad user
>name and/or password.
There should be a /etc/pam.d/ftp file on the server, since Red Hat
started adding pluggable authentication modules without documenting
them, the network services require them. I guess they decided you
don't need ftp. There's some documentation in /usr/doc/pam-<version/.
--
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Kenan Esau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: man and info pages in wrong language
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:09:40 +0200
> Check your environment with env for LANG-entry, change them in your
> .profile to the required language.
>
> Regards, Steffen
OK, and what are correct values for the LANG - environment variable.
Where are the correct values documented ???
Regards, Kenan
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