Linux-Setup Digest #715, Volume #20 Tue, 27 Feb 01 01:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2? (Ray Abbitt)
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Greg H.")
Re: Login via serial port ("Paul R. Woods")
Re: bulk changing of password ("Paul R. Woods")
Re: Dual Boot wiped out by Win98 (Alan Fried)
Re: Linux partitioning question ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Newbie question. ("ERix")
Re: Couple newbie questions (H.Bruijn)
Re: USB information ("Jimmy Snake")
Automatically unmount samba partitions at shutdown? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ethernet set up ("Tan, Li")
Mandrake 7.0 - cannot find screen?!? (DOKool)
Re: Severe X problem ("H.A.J. van Niekerk")
ipchains logging (Robert Davis)
Re: 12 minutes to load sendmail??? (Robert Davis)
HDD fail ("Kwong Kin")
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: how to make RAID card work in 2.4.2 after it worked in 2.2?
From: Ray Abbitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:58:18 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scott Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Have you tried the Promise ATA100 chipset support in the kernel (like
>>I suggested in my earlier post). It doesn't state specifically that the
>>FasTrak is supported, but since the Fastrak does it's own internal
>>volume translation I suspect that it will work just fine.
>
>Tried it--no go. I didn't really expect it to, because if that were
>the case, then the drivers for the Fastrak and the Ultra (the non-RAID
>version of the card) would be the same for all operating systems.
>
The only addition to the drivers for other operating systems is
the raid monitoring add on.
>>
>>Go back and find my earlier post. Read the section of the file
>>Configure.help that refers to Promise PDC20246/PDC20262/PDC20267
>>support. Recompile your 2.4.x kernel with this configured in. If
>>it doesn't work with the drives configured for RAID (I suspect it
>>will), use the Promise configuration to reconfigure them as individual
>>(non-RAID) drives.
>>
>I tried that, too, but the PDC202XX chipsets you mentioned are all for
>Promise chipsets that are installed on third-party motherboards, and
>difffer significantly from the add-on Fastrak cards both in BIOS and
>implementation. I discovered this the hard way when I had to re-flash
>the BIOS on my Fastrak and mistakenly chose the BIOS for one of the
>motherboard-base implementations.
That is because the bios is the main difference between the Fastrak
and the Ultra. The chipset is exactly the same. To convert an Ultra
card (or the onboard controller on the A7V or K7V) to a Fastrak you
add a couple of jumpers and re-flash the BIOS with the Fastrak BIO.
I've done it on both cards and motherboards.
The development of the kernel support was started before there were
any motherboards with ATA100 support.
> Lastly, If I'm going to configure the drives for a non-RAID
>configuration, I'll just do it with the onboard IDE controllers.
>They're only ATA-66, but even ATA-100 drives can't saturate an ATA-66
>interface just yet--at least not in real-world cases.
> I appreciate the help, and your earlier post inspired me to
>try things that I wouldn't have thought of otherwise. They didn't
>work, but the experience was worth it.
>
I'm going to try a few other things too. But first I'll have to get
another system to experiment with. I'm not planning on upgrading
the kernel yet on the machines I have using the Promise driver for
a while (they are production machines and have had a couple hundred
users keeping them busy since November of last year).
Another thought would be to do a little digging in the 2.4.x driver
source and see if you can find either the maintainer of the code or
a site with some information. I still suspect that it should support
the RAID configuration--minus the support for logging the RAID errors.
(Darn it, now you've got my curiosity going again--as if I didn't
already have enough to do. Did anybody warn you that this Linux stuff
could be addictive?)
-ray
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From: "Greg H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:12:42 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (ignorance is NOT a good reason for doing something ..=)
> If you don't know, then plainly you should go and find out. Check the
> HOWTO.
There's nothing wrong with what he said and most will agree. Besides,
that HOWTO is intended for servers and multi-user systems, not casual
home users.
With all the distros and their races to pump out whatever is not bleeding
edge (and even then that's not out of the question), plus the incredibly
fast and easy installs, it's not worth the time or effort to lay out several
partitions. With the exception of /home and /boot (if you suffer from the
1024 cylinder problem), / and swap can get you by just fine. In 6+ years
of use, this was all I ever needed. I've screwed around with different
partitioning schemes and found it to be a waste when I am the only user.
Unless you actually take the time to perform backups and carry out true
administrative measures regarding your box and several partitions, then it's
all for naught. I am willing to bet that less than half of those who actually
feel compelled to use any of the partitioning schemes described in the HOWTO
never back up anything except their personal user files. If you're going to
apply the concepts of the Partitioning HOWTO, then make damn sure you take
heed of the Backup HOWTO and the SAG so you truly understand why you're
doing what you're doing and if you really, truly need it.
I'm not trying to slam anyone, but I think it's pretty unfair to call
someone ignorant about an issue when there's no supporting reason behind
it, especially when there are quite a few posts here countering it.
Greg
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From: "Paul R. Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Login via serial port
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:22:18 GMT
Russ Housley wrote:
>
> I have Linux (Red Hat 7.0) set up to provide a firewall between my
> home network and the Internet (connected via ADSL). I am trying to
> avoid buying another monitor since the firewall requires very little
> care and feeding. I would like to connect the serial port on the
> firewall machine to the serial port on one of the protected machines.
> Clearly, I need a null-modem cable. What else do I need to do?
>
> The serial port on the firewall machine is ttyS1. How do I configure
> it to allow output the banner and permit login? I thik that the
> setserial command will allow me to set the baud rate, parity, and so
> forth.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Russ
I have done this, but it's been too long ago for me to remember the
particulars. I do remember that it was fairly simple. Have you checked
for the relevant docs. I believe there is a serial-console-HOWTO.
--
Paul R. Woods This machine powered by Linux!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org
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From: "Paul R. Woods" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bulk changing of password
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:32:54 GMT
Don Stewart wrote:
>
> Am adding a couple hundred users to a linux network, I can copy the passwd
> file from another network - but is there a way to batch the setting of the
> passwords?
> I can have an ascii file with login & password, but I don't know how to
> interface with the passwd program. is there another way?
I don't know if this is exactly what you want, but check out the 'crypt'
function built in to Perl. Do a 'perldoc perlfunc' then search for
'crypt'. It seems to me that if passwd and crypt are using the same
encryption algorithm, you should be able to write a password generatin'
Perl script.
Failing that, check out the 'expect' language, which is billed as
"programmed dialogue with interactive programs", according to the man
page.
--
Paul R. Woods This machine powered by Linux!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Fried)
Subject: Re: Dual Boot wiped out by Win98
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:32:46 GMT
"Randy Park" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm new to Linux, so please be patient.
>
>A month ago I install Mandrake Linux 7.1 on my PC that
>also had Win-98SE. The system would load grub and then
>boot to either Linux or Win98 depending upon what I
>chose. This worked fine until I was forced to reinstall
>Win98 due to Win98 problems. (I chose Mandrake because
>it looked most likely to support my Sanyo CD drive.)
>
>The system no longer loads grub, and boots directly to
>Win98. Thanks Microsoft :-( I can boot to Linux only
>if I insert my lilo floppy before booting. I tried
>using the drakeboot (or is that bootdrake?) utility
>but it fails with a message something like 'cylinder
>is too large'.
>
>My goal is to eventually elminate Win98. Could someone
>help advise me on how to restore my dual boot capability.
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
Did you make a recovery disk during install!!!!
If you did use it and then enter lilo. If not I don't know
what to tell you.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux partitioning question
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:39:26 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Greg H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.hardware Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> (ignorance is NOT a good reason for doing something ..=)
>> If you don't know, then plainly you should go and find out. Check the
>> HOWTO.
> There's nothing wrong with what he said and most will agree. Besides,
No, some will agree. And there is plenty wrong with what he said. For
one thing, it's only relevant to relatively lazy people who don't care
about the condition of their disk, its recoverability, or a mound of
other considerations that are discussed in the HOWTO ...
> that HOWTO is intended for servers and multi-user systems, not casual
Nonsense. It tells you about the issues.
> home users.
> With all the distros and their races to pump out whatever is not bleeding
> edge (and even then that's not out of the question), plus the incredibly
> fast and easy installs, it's not worth the time or effort to lay out several
Nonsense nonsense nonsense. I suppose I don't have the time and effort
to partition my debian slackware suse and redhat machines, eh? I mean,
I only have about a couple of hundred of them ...
> partitions. With the exception of /home and /boot (if you suffer from the
> 1024 cylinder problem), / and swap can get you by just fine. In 6+ years
EExcept that /var will be on your /root and/or /home partition, which
is an error of truly monumental proportions in either case.
> of use, this was all I ever needed. I've screwed around with different
> partitioning schemes and found it to be a waste when I am the only user.
Which is not the situation EVER in a multitasking o/s. Don't try and
apply dos/windows logic. You are NOT the only user on your disk, even
if you are the only user in your house.
> Unless you actually take the time to perform backups and carry out true
Like everyone.
> administrative measures regarding your box and several partitions, then it's
> all for naught. I am willing to bet that less than half of those who actually
> feel compelled to use any of the partitioning schemes described in the HOWTO
> never back up anything except their personal user files. If you're going to
Why would they back up anything else except that and /etc and parts of /var?
I don't! The rest just comes from a distro, which is replacable. This
is not the problem. The problem is when your machine breaks, which it
will do at frequencies of about once every three months to once every
two years, depending on luck or circumstance.
> apply the concepts of the Partitioning HOWTO, then make damn sure you take
> heed of the Backup HOWTO and the SAG so you truly understand why you're
> doing what you're doing and if you really, truly need it.
Backup questions are orthogonal. Look .. the issue is whether you think
that having rooms in your house is a good thing or not. Sure, it saves
all kinds of thinking and planning if you don't have internal walls,
and it avoids the problem of not being able to fit the sofa in the
small room. But do you really want to cook in the living room? If not,
why not? What's wrong with washing your clothes in the bedroom?
> I'm not trying to slam anyone, but I think it's pretty unfair to call
> someone ignorant about an issue when there's no supporting reason behind
It sounds an entirely accurate description to me! And there are piles
of supporting reasons. Exactly the reasons for having walls in your house.
> it, especially when there are quite a few posts here countering it.
So what? Has the person read them? Has he read the howto? If not, he is
ignorant of the issues involved.
Peter
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From: "ERix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question.
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:05:36 -0800
How many computers do you have? Put dsl on the spare, set it up as a proxy
server/Internet connection sharing, and get to the Internet through you
spare.
"Mr. Kipling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:97dmhc$ggk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> HELP!
>
> I have installed Redhat 6.2, which is on a partitioned hard drive with
> Windows 98.
>
> I want to upgrade to Redhat 7 using my ADSL connection but the problem is
> that RH 6.2 doesn't support ADSL and i can only use it form windows.
>
> Can someone help please?
>
> Mr. Kipling
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Couple newbie questions
Date: 27 Feb 2001 05:22:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First it is customary to reply in between and below the text you include
in your replies. That will make the structure of the conversation much
clearer. An easy to follow Question -- Answer -- Clarification in stead of
reading something that vaguely makes sense, to scroll down to the bottom
of the message, to read the question, then to scroll up again read to look
and see what the answer was again.
Imagine my reply simply consisting of:
Good.
No, don't create /dev/hd2
Use the "id" command to get them.
Second, that will force you to cut in my original text, and will prevent
endlessly sending *ALL* previous remarks, as you did below.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Paul Folbrecht wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I need a little more detail on the second
> item- hope you can bear with me. I added the line to etc/fstab as instructed-
> I had to do a su to save it, though.
Of course it is a system file, owned by root.
> I then created /mnt/hd2 as instructed.
> And that's the first part I'm unsure about- do I create a dev/hd2 dir also?
> (You said "create the mount point"- I believe that's /mnt/hd2.)
The mount point is the place where the drive becomes visible in the
system, on DOS/windows that would have been a:\ b:\ for floppy drives, c:\
for the main hard disc, d:\ for the cddrive. On *nix each directory, and
or subdirectory can be on a different drive, for the file system there's
no difference. There is no specified name a mount point has to carry for the
system to recognise it as part of the file system.
Traditionally the mount points would be in the /mnt/ branch of the file-
system, for temporary drives. /mnt/floppy, /mnt/cdrom /mnt/tape etc. But
if you fancy you can access the floppy just as easily in /home/paul/floppy
It is the device entry which tells the system which driver to use, which
distinguishes between hardware, etc. From the mount point all programs
just see files and directories, and aren't bothered what makes them tick.
To answer your question, you need to create the mount point yourself,
/mnt/hd2 is sufficient, but I would suggest a more descriptive name, like
/mnt/windows, as it is the fat32 drive which has windows installed on it,
using device name style entries get confusing on larger systems, but that's
just semantics. The device entry in /dev/ should already exist.
Device entries under Linux IDE disks under Linux use the following
scheme to name the hard disks:
/dev/hd[drive][partition]
Each IDE drive is lettered starting from a. So the primary disk
on the first chain is a; the slave on the first chain is b; the
primary on the secondary chain is c; and so on. Each disk's
partition is referenced by number. For example, the third
partition of the slave drive on the first chain is /dev/hdb3.
SCSI disks use the same scheme except instead of using /dev/hd
as the prefix, /dev/sd is used. So to refer to the
second partition of the first disk on the SCSI chain, you would
use /dev/sda2.
To refer to the entire disk, specify all the information except
the partition. For example, to refer to the entire primary disk
on the first IDE chain, you would use /dev/hda.
>
> But, the main thing I did not follow was your discussion of the meaning of
> guid and uid, and what values I'm supposed to use for them. I know enough
> about Unix to know that these must mean "group id" and "user id", and I
> suppose you're saying I should change them to the values of the account I'm
> using, but I don't know where do get that info (though I'm sure it's right
> under my nose).
the command "id" gives the numerical values for your login name, as well
as for the group(s) you belong to.
Otherwise you can look them up in the /etc/passwd and /etc/groups files.
> > >- Is there a simple way with Gnome File Manager to see your FAT32
> > >partitions on the drive? (I previously used Corel Linux a bit which did
> > >this by default.)
> >
> > edit /etc/fstab and add a line like:
> > /dev/hda5 /mnt/win vfat auto,uid=1001,guid=501,exec,umask=002 0 0
[ snip explanation ]
> >
> > --
[ snip *MY* signature ]
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
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The Netherlands website: http://hermanbruijn.com
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From: "Jimmy Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: USB information
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:20:47 GMT
tnx all
found out that my mouse was put on /dev/input/mouse0
turned on the usb info with the kernel recompile
"Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:DNAm6.5727$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i think www.linux-usb.org is about the best you're going to get.
>
> "Jimmy Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:oMtm6.27264$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Where can i find detailed Howto's or docs about USB devices under linux
?
> >
> > having trouble getting my iFeelMouseMan USB to work and tried nearly all
> the
> > doc's/Howto's I could find.
> >
> > tnx
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Automatically unmount samba partitions at shutdown?
Date: 27 Feb 2001 04:37:37 GMT
(Please CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Hi all,
How can I, in RH 6.2, make it so that my network mounts, in
this case samba, are automatically unmounted during shutdown/reboot?
Right now the standard /etc/rc.d/... scripts DO attempt to unmount
them but by the time this happens the network has already been shut-
down so that the samba connections can not be properly disconnected.
Any tips would be appreciated.
--Rainer
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Reply-To: "Tan, Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Tan, Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ethernet set up
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:32:03 -0800
I am setting up Intel 52559ER in red Hat 6.2, I download the driver, but it
seems not working. what I should reconfigure
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From: DOKool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mandrake 7.0 - cannot find screen?!?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:34:25 GMT
I have an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 pro, and a MaxTech XT7861 monitor.
DrakX is fine up to the monitor configuration for X... then, no matter
what I do, it can't find the damn screen. Is there anything that can
fix it?
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From: "H.A.J. van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config,redhat.general
Subject: Re: Severe X problem
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:42:16 +0100
Hi,
In fact: I'm using XFree86 3.3.6 on RH 6.2. Yesterday I edited/hacked
XF86Condig in which I outcommented the path-lines. Started startx and
everything works fine now., both by just starting startx and from system-boot
into X. So while I still don't know what exactly caused it, it's over.
Huub
Hilkiah Lavinier wrote:
> I'm not sure if this'll help, but I had exactly the same problem today.
> Earlier on the system crashed and fsck went through ok (though I had to
> run it from runlevel 1). After that I just couldn't get into X windows.
> Tonight I discovered a file called:
>
> [hilkiah@assasin] Mon Feb 26 10:07:37
> pwd: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc
> $ l
> total 0
> brw---s--t 1 60 18 0, 1 Feb 15 1970 12x24.pcf.gz
>
> This is part of the XFree86-4.0.1-1 package. Now I couldn't delete this
> file (even posted in a diff group). Therefore I renamed the misc dir to
> just m and reinstalled a XFree86-4.0.1-1 rpm. Everything works fine now.
>
> Except the bloody file is still here:
>
> [root@assasin] Mon Feb 26 09:57:14
> pwd: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/m
> # rm 12x24.pcf.gz
> rm: cannot unlink `12x24.pcf.gz': Operation not permitted
>
> Anyone reading this, if they have any ideas on how to get rid of the above
> file, pls lemme know.
>
> Hope this helps.
> HL
>
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Peter T. Breuer
> wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:40:51 +0100
> > From: Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Newsgroups: redhat.config, redhat.general, comp.os.linux.setup
> > Subject: Re: Severe X problem
> >
> > H.A.J. van Niekerk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
> > > failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
> >
> > Well, remove it from your font path then! (or start up the xfm
> > server that is supposed to supply that path component).
> >
> > This is a faq. Your variant appears to arise in connection with xfree86
> > version 4, however, so be sure to check that you are just not failing
> > by virtue of trying to apply version 3.6 concepts to version 4 .. I am
> > not even certain that there is a font server facility in version 4.
> >
> > > Fatal server error:
> > > could not open default font 'fixed'
> >
> > yeah, well, obviously. Fix your font path.
> >
> > Peter
> >
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From: Robert Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ipchains logging
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:48:17 -0500
I have my firewall setup.
I have logging on where I want it.
The only way I can see the logging is by dmesg.
Is there a way I can get this to be sent to a file?
Also dmesg doesnt show any time. How do I get a timestamp.
I have read the ipchains how-to and ipchains man but I cant seem to find this doc.
thanks
bob
--
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the presence of intelligence in space.
It just shows how rare it is here on the earth.
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From: Robert Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 12 minutes to load sendmail???
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:55:04 -0500
It cant find your local host name. I fixed this by putting a host name in
/etc/sysconfig/network.
Also I put entries in /etc/hosts.
It is trying to do a dns on your local system.
Anytime you see long waits like this it usually is a dns lookup that is timing out.
How about that for a sweeping generalization!
I had another long wait everytime I telnet'ed to the linux box. It was dns again. This
time fixed by putting the clients ip and name in /etc/hosts
HTH
bob
ERix wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm a novitiate, but am working on improving. Here's a question for
> which I have been unable to locate an answer. Whenever I boot Linux (RH6.0)
> everything loads fine, but when I get to sendmail, it literally takes 12-15
> minutes to load--it just sits there--I don't even here processor activity.
> What is it doing? The LinuxBox is attached to a hub, and the hub is
> attached to another workstation that acts as a server. This "server" has a
> WinProxy via ADSL connection to the Internet. LinuxBox is set to
> 192.168.1.9/24, with a gateway of 192.168.1.1/24, and the server is set to
> 192.168.1.1/24. Could someone offer a suggestion as to how to fix this?
> Thank you much.
>
> Erix
--
The phenomenon of UFO doesn't say anything about
the presence of intelligence in space.
It just shows how rare it is here on the earth.
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From: "Kwong Kin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HDD fail
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:58:53 +0800
Hi Everybody
My harddisk failed after installing linux redhat 6.2+CLE0.9p1, two hd suffer
the same problem, pls help!!!!!!!!!
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