Linux-Setup Digest #749, Volume #19 Mon, 2 Oct 00 21:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Implications (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: Mounting VFAT with read/write access (Shadow)
Re: Modem Problem, Please Help (Karl Heyes)
Re: WTF is up with LinuxConf under RH7?!!??! ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
Re: RH70: Gnome config tool not available using enlightenment windowmanager? (Bill)
Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Urgent! Really need help setting up dialup ISP service - DYNAMIC DNS!:-( (Walter
Dnes)
Lexmark 1100 printing but w/no ink. (AGS)
Re: Strange RPM error when upgrading gcc (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
Re: Dual Boot: WIN2K & Caldera eDESK2.4 or Redhat 6.2 Problem... ("L. Friedman")
Re: Modules, kernel compling, unresolved symbols (using kgcc) & RH7 (DP)
Re: Strange RPM error when upgrading gcc (Mike Oliver)
Re: dual boot with Win2K (not 98 or NT) ?? ("Arctic Storm")
Re: Modem Problem, Please Help (Clifford Kite)
Re: RH6.0 installs, but won't boot (Michael Mitchell)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:07:53 GMT
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 22:27:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[ snip of confused response]
>
>>
>> It's not the arrow I was pointing out, it was the fact that
>> your "equation" was unequal, i.e. unbalanced. Note the 2 in
>> front of the H2...
>>
>
>As stated in another post, the balanced form is impled by the
>unbalanced equation. The question still remains, is
The unbalanced equation is simply incorrect. If you wrote down the unbalanced
form in a highschool chemistry exam, you would get marks off---unless the
teacher was some moronic crackpot from Usenet. You are obviously wrong, and
just don't want to admit that you have no clue what an equation is, or that
your ideas about computer configuration are not only vague and useless, but
some of them border on deranged.
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From: Shadow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting VFAT with read/write access
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:14:48 GMT
D F wrote:
> Shadow wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if someone can help with a mount
> permissions problem.
> >
> > I mount a vfat drive manually with the following command.
> >
> > mount -t vfat -o users,uid=500,gid=500,umask=000 /dev/hda6
> /mnt/data
> >
> > I have also tried many similar versions of this command.
> >
> > root has read/write access to the drive but User 500 gets
> a permission
> > denied for any write operation.
> >
> > There has to be some way round this.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
>
> What are the permissions on the directory /mnt/data?
>
> Dave Fluri North Bay, Ontario Canada
>
> The opinions herein are mine. I do not speak for my employer
> unless expressly indicated otherwise.
/mnt/data shows up as drwxrwxrwx so it looks OK but I can't seem to
write to it.
I just tried it with only the umask option set to 000 which gives the
above permissions on the mount point and also gives -rwxrwxrwx on all
files. When i try to rename a file using mv I get
Cannot create regular file "xxxxxxx.xxx" :Permission denied
I have also tried msdos, umsdos and vfat all with the same results. It
looks like it should work but it doesn't, certainly got me stumped.
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From: Karl Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Modem Problem, Please Help
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 00:47:02 +0000
In article <8r8hig$19k8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Patrick Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I have been trying to configure a modem for far to longer than I am
> willing to admit. I have Suse 6.4, I have both a PCI modem, and ISA modem,
> neither from what I can tell are winmodems both pnp. When I execute
> 'lspci -tv' the pci modem is detected, when isadump my isa modem is
> detected. I have tried all possible configurations from docs that I have
> found and I cannot get either of these damn things to work. Comments,
> Suggestions, Criticism, greatly appreciated.
>
look at the /proc/pci or lspci output and determine the resources used by the
device. if it is IO port based then it's ok the configure but if it's memory
based (you'll see a large number) then the only option is to check out the
2.4 series kernels, which have some support for these.
If it is a winmodem then you are stuffed, really. check www.linmodem.org
karl.
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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: WTF is up with LinuxConf under RH7?!!??!
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 19:51:22 -0400
Jim wrote:
>
> hmm, I be a newbie and got it to work with no problems :P
>
> The Archimage wrote:
>
> > I lost DNS configuration, Apache configuration, Samba (although,
> > granted, I use SWAT), and service management (although that seems to be
> > covered now by ntsysv and xinetd).
> >
> > Why?!?! What the heck happened?!? The DNS config tool was actually
> > really ggod under 6.2! Going back to editing by hand sucks!
> >
> > What's up with THAT?!?!
> >
> > The Linux Archimage
> > Austin, Texas
> >
> > Red Hat Certified Engineer
> > TurboLinux Certified Trainer
> > Certified NetWare Engineer
> > Microsoft Certified Trainer
Anyone really interested can read all about it in the
muc.lists.linux-kernel news group. I wouldn't subscribe unless I had a
very large mail box.
--
Rinaldi]$
"The federal government has taken too much tax money from the people,
too much authority from the states, and too much liberty with the
Constitution." --Ronald Reagan
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From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH70: Gnome config tool not available using enlightenment windowmanager?
Date: 02 Oct 2000 19:10:56 -0500
Bernhard Mogens Ege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
When you say it won't start, what happens? Is the menu item gone?
Have you tried running gnomecc from a terminal? I am using RH7 with
Enlightenment 16.4 and gnomecc works fine.
bill
> I was just trying the enlightenment windowmanager but now the Gnome
> Configuartion Center (gnomecc) wont start anymore.gnomecc is needed to
> change windowmanager, so I interpret this as a trap (select
> enlightenment and you will never use another windowmanager anymore).
>
> Any ideas to how I can make gnomecc run under the enlightenment
> windowmanager?
>
> I did file a bugreport already for RedHat 7.0 beta
> (bugzilla.redhat.com) but it was apparently never read.
>
> regards,
>
> Bernhard Ege
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:58:51 GMT
> The unbalanced equation is simply incorrect.
> If you wrote down the unbalanced
> form in a highschool chemistry exam,
> you would get marks off---unless the
> teacher was some moronic crackpot from Usenet.
> You are obviously wrong, and
> just don't want to admit that you have no clue
> what an equation is, or that
> your ideas about computer configuration
> are not only vague and useless, but
> some of them border on deranged.
Okay. I am obviously wrong, and have demonstrated that
I have no idea what an equation is.
I am deranged for noticing how often I configure computer systems by
taking a set of installation disks and CDs over to a system, and
feeding them into the machine. I wasn't thinking clearly, so I called
this set of stuff X.
I am also deranged for thinking that this process results in
configuring something that I might think of as a program store on some
computer system (usually its hard drive). I think of this construction
as P.
And I am deranged for thinking that program store P (the hard drive)
defines the execution enviornment on a computer system. Most people
would call the results an operating system, or a set of applications,
or a server, or maybe even a client. In my deranged state, I called it
E.
Buried in the excesses of my deranged thinking, I wrote down something
that looks like this:
X --> P --> E
How amazingly deranged.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter Dnes)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Urgent! Really need help setting up dialup ISP service - DYNAMIC DNS!:-(
Date: 3 Oct 2000 00:13:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 01 Oct 2000 21:46:03 GMT, Jan Johansson, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Standard dialup ISP setup. The DHCP protocol takes care of this.
>
> Actually DHCP has nothing to do with PPP connects.
Sorry, I was thinking of IPCP.
--
Walter Dnes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: AGS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lexmark 1100 printing but w/no ink.
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 00:12:36 GMT
Hello
Is there any command out there, in addition to LPR, that I can make the
ink output of my printer increase?
I have a Lexmark 1100 and have managed to get the printer to work under
Mandrake 7.0...but the only problem is, no ink is coming out of the
cartridge. I have setup my printer using the latest driver for it and
using printtool.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
-Amir
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange RPM error when upgrading gcc
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 02:43:38 +0200
On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Mike Oliver wrote:
> Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Mike Oliver wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
> > > > Also, you could upgrade to rpm 4 by the same procedure. Thereafter you
> > > > will be able to use .rpm-3 packages (if you run rpm --rebuilddb
> > > > first). But then you won't be able to change back to the old version.
> > >
> > > But I will still be able to install .rpm-2 packages, I hope?
> >
> > It should be backwards compatible. That is - you should be able to install
> > older packages.
> >
> > So the answer is yes.
>
> Unfortunately it didn't work. I got the same error as for all the
> other new-format RPMs.
>
> Someone suggested a two-step upgrade, first to rpm version 3. Where
> would I find that? I was able to locate only the current versions.
I just checked it out. You will have to upgrade to rpm 3.0.5. It is
available from redhat's webpage. With it, you will be able to read the
newer format.
Then you would be able to upgrade gcc.
Rasmus B�g Hansen
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From: "L. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: Dual Boot: WIN2K & Caldera eDESK2.4 or Redhat 6.2 Problem...
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 20:52:51 -0400
Ergophobe wrote:
> > 4. booted up Caldera, and did dd if=/dev/hda7 of=bootsect.lnx bs=512
> count=1
> > 5. copied bootsect.lnx to my boot partition ( cp bootsect.lnx /dev/hda )
>
> I think this may be the error. The safe thing, if you're using NTLDR is to
> put it on a floppy and boot up in NT and then write it to C: I assume C: is
> your /dev/hda1, whereas by writing to /dev/hda like that, I'm guessing you
> blew away your boot sector and that's why NT er.. Win2K doesn't boot
> anymore. Hopefully someone a bit more expert will chime in and either
> confirm or contradict this.
Yes, writing to /dev/hda is the MBR. I can't comment on what W2k needs,
as I've never used it, and hopefully never will.
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The alt.os.linux.caldera FAQ:
http://netllama.ipfox.com/COL_FAQ.html
Step-by-step help for COL problems:
http://netllama.ipfox.com/stepbystep.htm
8:50pm up 2 min, 1 user, load average: 0.77, 0.38, 0.14
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From: DP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Modules, kernel compling, unresolved symbols (using kgcc) & RH7
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 00:51:55 GMT
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 12:56:35 GMT, "ne..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>RH7 comes with 2.2.16. You make modules_install overwrote what
>was in /lib/modules/2.2.16 but did not delete the stuff you
>do not need. Also your /lib/modules/2.2.16/modules.dep is
>for the kernel that came with RH7, not what you compiled.
>If you have no intention of using the RH7 kernel, delete
>/lib/modules/2.2.16 and do make modules_install again.
>Then reboot and do a depmod -a. This should clear things up.
Thanks for the follow-up. Actually, I did what you suggested, and it
didn't solve the problem, BUT, for some reason switching to a clean
2.2.17 kernel (rather than 2.2.16) did the trick. I don't know why,
or what was causing the modules to be thrown off, but this seemed to
do the trick.
Thanks for the help,
David
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From: Mike Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange RPM error when upgrading gcc
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2000 17:53:53 -0700
Rasmus B�g Hansen wrote:
> I just checked it out. You will have to upgrade to rpm 3.0.5. It is
> available from redhat's webpage.
It is? All I can find there are current versions (i.e. rpm-4.0.4).
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From: "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual boot with Win2K (not 98 or NT) ??
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 01:02:30 GMT
You may have to do something drastic.
Will you be using only Win2K & Linux? Not Win98?
Create a DOS boot disk; be sure that it contains format.exe, fdisk.exe, and
the CD driver.
Boot using the floppy. Delete all partitions on your hard drive, using
fdisk.
Now, your hard drive has no partitions.
Pick a number for the size of your Win2K partition, e.g. 50%.
While in fdisk, choose to create a partition of size 32 MB; make this
partition the active partition.
Now, choose to create a partition of size 50%, or what ever size you want
for Win2K.
There's no need to format the partition for Win2K, however, you must format
the first partion, which is 32 MB; this will most likely have the drive
letter C:.
Now, install either Win2K or RedHat Linux; the order in which you install
them is immaterial.
Install Win2K as you would normally; you'll be given an option to format the
newly created partition during installation; Win2K done.
Install RedHat Linux 7.0; creating a RedHat Linux install-floppy makes
things easier, because you boot using the install-floppy and load from the
CD.
You must choose "custom install" option, when presented with choices like
GNOME, KDE, etc. Only if you choose "custom install", will you be presented
with LILO configuration. When you get to the point of LILO, choose to
install LILO, not in the MBR (master boot record), but in the boot
partition; this is *very* important, and may be one of the most important
steps in the dual boot setup.
Win2K installs the NT Loader in the MBR, which allows you to choose the boot
OS. You must add the Linux partition to the NT Loader menu.
There's a software called BootPart that will allow you to add the Linux
partition to the NT Loader menu.
Do a search in Yahoo for BootPart, and go to the website for information.
====================================================================
"Phil Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ram46$q7m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Lots of information out there about dual-booting with 98 or NT, but I
don't
> see anything about using Lose2K. Other than that people seem to be doing
> it scuccessfully.
>
> And before you say, "You idiot, W2K acts just like Windows<foo> in this
> respect," well, I have zero experience with Win95, Win98, and Win2K.
> All I know about it is that I'm about to be forced to switch to it from
NT.
>
> The last time I did dual-booting, it was with DOS 3.3 and LOADLIN.EXE.
> And that was about half a decade ago. I've never used lilo in my life.
>
>
> (Right now I use NT as a nice X-terminal for some other *nix systems.
> Running MICROS~1 OSes is about to become prohibitively complicated at
> work, so I'm going to switch my primary work platform to dual-boot Win2K
> (required) and Linux (my choice). I don't really know what I'm doing
> (I hate PC hardware).)
>
> Pointers to W2K-related FAQs or tips would be muchly appreciated. I will
> buy a cup of expensive coffee for you if you ever happen to be in town.
:-)
>
>
> Phil
>
> --
> pedwards at disaster dot jaj dot com | pme at sources dot redhat dot com
> devphil at several other less interesting addresses in various dot domains
> The gods do not protect fools. Fools are protected by more capable fools.
>
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From: Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Modem Problem, Please Help
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:14:58 -0500
Patrick Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I have been trying to configure a modem for far to longer than
> I am willing to admit. I have Suse 6.4, I have both a PCI modem,
> and ISA modem, neither from what I can tell are winmodems both pnp.
> When I execute
There's a high probablity that the PCI modem is at least related to
the winmodem family. Check both modems with list at the URL given
in another post.
> 'lspci -tv' the pci modem is detected, when isadump my isa modem is
That's isapnp I'd guess.
> detected. I have tried all possible configurations from docs that
> I have found and I cannot get either of these damn things to work.
ISA Pnp modems (that are not related to Winmodems) usually have a way
of turning off PnP and setting an IRQ and port with jumpers or a MSDOS
configuration program. That's the best way to go with such modems.
Check the modem manual or the manufacturer's web site for how to do
this for your modem. If you have a PCI/ISA bus then there also may
be IRQ settings in the BIOS that need changing.
--
Clifford Kite <kite@inet%port.com> Not a guru. (tm)
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From: Michael Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.0 installs, but won't boot
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 01:09:32 GMT
I would think that "auto" should handle the bios setting for the hd. The
install
should have asked you where to install the lilo, which in this case your
choice
would have been the MBR. You should have been able to do all this
without ever
invoking win95. If you could type in: lilo = linux single /
you might
can find out through trouble shooting or linux /dev/hda1 it may boot
into
linux. I'm no expert but printing all the documentation that came with
my
installation and having trouble shooting sections to refer to has saved
me more
than once. I have installed linux on old stuff just for practice and
getting
video settings and old monitors configured correctly and/or trouble
shooting to
correct problems has paid off when I run into problems now.
Good luck
Most of the time, the answer is right in front of you
Murray Alexander wrote:
> The BIOS can use "Normal", "Large", "LBA", or "AUTO" mode to recognize the
> disk geometry. The first two give me 1647 cyls, 16 heads, 63 sectors. The
> other two give me 823 cyls, 32 heads, 63 sectors. The drive itself is marked
> with the first geometry, so I used Win95's fdisk to rewrite the MBR. Then, I
> partitioned as follows:
>
> Device Start End Mount Point
> ------------ -------- ------ ----------------
> /dev/hda1 1 131 /
> /dev/hda2 132 392 [swap]
> /dev/hda3 393 913 /var
> /dev/hda4 914 1647 /usr
>
> After formatting, and installing packages, I put LILO in the /dev/hda1
> partition, not the MBR. That got me to the situation I'm in now. The BIOS
> has PnP disabled, and I've manually configured the 3Com card to use IRQ10
> and I/O base 0x300.
>
> The silly machine will boot just fine from the RH6.0 install diskette, just
> not from the hard drive. Where do I look?
>
> "Michael Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You need to go into more detail. How did you format the disc, etc. Bios
> > settings should have pnp disabled.
> >
> > Murray Alexander wrote:
> >
> > > I've been tearing out what little hair I have left. I've got RH6.0, and
> I've
> > > installed it (several times, now) on an older box I bought just for this
> > > purpose (no other operating system on the machine, no dual-booting,...).
> > >
> > > It's a Pentium MMX 200MHz, on a GA-586AT motherboard (can't find doc
> > > _anywhere_) with 32MB of RAM, a 850MB Quantum drive, a Trident 8900CL
> VGA
> > > card, a 3Com 3C509 combo card, and your basic 3.5" floppy.
> > >
> > > After sorting out the disk geometry problems (another story in itself),
> LILO
> > > now seems to work. So, when I boot, I get this:
> > >
> > > LILO boot:
> > > Loading linux
> > >
> > > ...and then it freezes. I've disabled PnP on the 3C509, which didn't
> help at
> > > all.
> > >
> > > Any ideas, anyone? I haven't found any documentation that seems to apply
> to
> > > this situation.
> >
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