Linux-Setup Digest #789, Volume #19               Sun, 8 Oct 00 20:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Second FAT32 partition can't be mounted (Urs Vollmer)
  Re: install vmware-tools w/o floppy drive? ("rude")
  Teles 16.0 / Suse 7 trouble ("Heiko Goette")
  Boca MV.34E setup (Tom McBride)
  Re: Second FAT32 partition can't be mounted (infamis.at.programmer.net)
  Re: TELNET (Rob Ristroph)
  Remote esd connection question (Benjamin Han)
  X server bails when installing, Red Hat 7.0 (arif)
  Re: licq (Colin Watson)
  Re: Second FAT32 partition can't be mounted (Urs Vollmer)
  Re: SCSI support in RH 6.2, kernel 2.2.14-5.0 ("Michael Jones")
  Re: various LILO vga settings/tux images (alex k)
  Re: Second FAT32 partition can't be mounted (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  Re: downloading and running programs help ("David ..")
  Kppp modem commands (Gene Hopp)
  Re: Which shell to use, sh, csh, tcsh or bash? (Rob Ristroph)
  Re: DSL with a Nortel Modem on Linuxppc (Bill Pringlemeir)

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From: Urs Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Second FAT32 partition can't be mounted
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 16:15:09 -0400

I'm having a problem with my FAT32-Partitions (all on one disk):
One can be mounted, one can't. The error message for the second is

[root@myhost urs]# mount /mnt/win2
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda12,
       or too many mounted file systems

However, both partitions are of the same type, and the first one
is mounted without a problem:

[urs@myhost urs]$ df
Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda7               497829     32349    439778   7% /
/dev/hda2                23333      2878     19251  13% /boot
/dev/hda6              2016016    126616   1786988   7% /home
/dev/hda1              8178784   2923936   5254848  36% /mnt/win1
(...etc...)

The corresponding /etc/fstab entries are identical:

[urs@hirschj-pc1 urs]$ cat /etc/fstab 
(...)
/dev/hda1               /mnt/win1         vfat    defaults     0 0
/dev/hda12              /mnt/win2         vfat    defaults     0 0
(...etc...)

Also, Windows sees them both fine, as C: and D:.

The drive is divided into partitions (/sbin/fdisk output) as follows:

(...)

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *         1      1020   8193118+   c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/hda2          1021      1023     24097+  83  Linux
/dev/hda3          1024      3649  21093345    5  Extended
/dev/hda5          1024      1278   2048256   83  Linux
/dev/hda6          1279      1533   2048256   83  Linux
/dev/hda7          1534      1597    514048+  83  Linux
/dev/hda8          1598      1661    514048+  83  Linux
/dev/hda9          1662      1678    136521   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda10         1679      1695    136521   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda11         1696      1712    136521   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda12         1713      3649  15558921    c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

Could anyone point me to a possible cause and solution? 

It couldn't have anything to do with /dev/hda12 starting at a 
cylinder >1024, could it? Isn't it strange that Win does see the
second partition? Is the partition ID the problem? Or maybe the
order of the partitions?

Thanks for any help.

Urs

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From: "rude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: install vmware-tools w/o floppy drive?
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:12:59 +0100

I did follow them a few dozen times.
I also tried setting the virtual floppy up as these 3 files:
/usr/lib/vmware/floppies/linux.flp
/usr/lib/vmware/floppies/windows.flp
/usr/lib/vmware/floppy.nvr

I then also symlinked /dev/fd0 to a writable file, but failed pitifully.

No matter if I select device (/dev/fd0) or file (see above), I cannot 
access drive A: in the Windows client.
I tried it with and without connecting the drives/files in the config editor.

It really seems I cannot install the tools w/o a floppy drive.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Pfeifer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I don't think you need a real floppy drive to do that. The vmware-tools
> install from a virtual floppy drive. Just follow the procedure, and it
> should work:
> 
> http://www.vmware.com/support/linux/doc/quickstart_2_rpm_linux/install_tools.html
> 
> Tom
> 
>> I spent the last night with installing & configuring vmware 2.0, Suse 7
>> as host and win98 as guest system.
>> 
>> I cannot however install the vmware-tools required for completing the
>> win98 setup, as the tools need to be installed from a floppy drive which
>> I don't have. Floppy drives simply don't work on my machine, most likely
>> a floppy controller malfunction on my mobo. Anyway, until now I didn't
>> miss the floppy drive.
>> 
>> Any idea to bypass the need of a floppy drive for installing the
>> vmware-tools?
>> 
>> All hints are greatly appreciated! Cheers, rude



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From: "Heiko Goette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Teles 16.0 / Suse 7 trouble
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:21:08 +0200

Yast2 seems to recognize and setup my Teles 16.0 ISA-card
correctly -  but the dialin procedure to any preconfigured
internet-provider fails. Did anybody else have the same problem
or knows a workaround?



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From: Tom McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boca MV.34E setup
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 16:08:17 -0500

Does anyone have a dialup script for a Boca 28,800 MV.34E modem?

Any help would be appreciated, been working on this for some time and
I'm doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.

Thanks,

Tom

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (infamis.at.programmer.net)
Date: 08 Oct 2000 21:09:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Second FAT32 partition can't be mounted

try doing 

# mount /dev/hda12 

first and if that doesn't work, 

# mount -t vfat /dev/hda12 /mnt/win2

and tell what happens

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Ristroph)
Subject: Re: TELNET
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:27:59 GMT


Michel,

        Your problem is most likely not a missing rpm.  Rather, you
        probably need to edit one or all of these files:

/etc/inetd.conf
/etc/hosts.allow
/etc/hosts.deny

        You can get to some basic information on those files with
        these man commands (presuming you installed man pages -- if
        you didn't, and don't want to for some reason, they are online
        at www.linuxdoc.org):

man inetd.conf
man hosts.allow
man hosts.deny

        Most likely it is a matter of uncommenting the telnet line in
        /etc/inetd.conf.

        I've had this problem whenever I install redhat on a new
        machine, but I always forget what I did to fix it and revisit
        that documentation to find the answer again.

        You may also want to consult these HOWTOs:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ISP-Setup-RedHat-4.html
(Because this section:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ISP-Setup-RedHat-4.html#ss4.4 mentions
the inetd.conf thing, and this section:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/ISP-Setup-RedHat-4.html#ss4.13 has a
hosts.allow file -- note that you want a line in your hosts.allow
similar to the in.ftp line in that one.)

        It would be a good idea to read through this one while you are
        doing all this stuff:

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO.html

        As a final comment, I'd like to suggest that if you are
        connecting over the open internet, leaving telnet non-working
        and installing ssh instead is probably a good idea.

--Rob



>>>>> "Michel" == Michel Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Michel> 
Michel> Hy,
Michel> I installed a RedHat 6.2, like a workstation. 
Michel> 
Michel> But I can't connect with it, trought TELNET. So, I installed
Michel> several RPM, but it's may be that I missed one. Note that the
Michel> FTP is working good.  And more I don't know where I could find
Michel> the RPM of FTPserver.
Michel> 
Michel> Someone hass help.
Michel> 
Michel> Thanks Michel








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From: Benjamin Han <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Remote esd connection question
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 17:42:17 -0400

I'd like to play xmms on a remote machine and have the sound transfer back to
the esd running on my local box. In my /etc/esd.conf I have:

[esd]
auto_spawn=1
spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 2 -tcp -public -port 16001
spawn_wait_ms=100

After starting Gnome+Enlightenment 0.16.5 the sound played fine on local box,
but not from the remote xmms (yes I did set it up right - pointed it back to
my local box at port 16001).

The strange thing is if I didn't start X (on run level 3), I can execute

esd -nobeeps -as 2 -tcp -public -port 16001

and on the remote box successfully played sound *repeatedly*:

export ESPEAKER=the.local.box.ip:16001
esdplay sound.wav

I guess something in X/Gnome must blocked port 16001 from remote machines?

I'd appreciate any comment on this, thank you,

Ben

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From: arif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X server bails when installing, Red Hat 7.0
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 17:55:56 -0400

Anyone have any ideas on this:

I'm trying to upgrade from RH 6.2 to RH 7.0, and in the process of
starting up the graphical installation, the X server dies.
System is:
AMD K6-2 400 Mhz
EPOX motherboard (EP-MVP3G2)
Voodoo 3 pci
Generic Monitor

has anyone else experienced this?  Any ideas on how to solve it (aside
from using the text based install option).

I'm planning on proceeding with the upgrade using the text based
installation, but I'm wondering why this happened, and whether it will
effect my ability to run X -- I suppose I'll find out.

any help would be appreciated

-arif


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: licq
Date: 8 Oct 2000 22:05:26 GMT

Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone tell me where the hell to get qt-devel-2.1 or higher in
>tar.gz format so I can use licq?  
>
> I got the rpm and when I try to install the rpm it complains that I
>already have version 1.44 installed.

You want 'rpm -U' (upgrade), not 'rpm -i' (install).

(What a pointless and confusing set of command-line switches. -i is
*never* necessary, as far as I can tell: -U will install the package
anyway if it isn't installed already.)

>So I force the installation

Try not to do that - read the man page instead. Forcing things tends to
be bad karma later on (if it doesn't work, there's probably a good
reason).

>but have no clue where the files were placed.

  rpm -ql name-of-package

>I verify the install and I'm told it wasn't installed but yet when I
>did the install the hard drive was being accessed for probably 20
>seconds while I thought the files were being extracted from the rpm.

You sure you aren't falling into the standard trap with rpm? When you
use 'rpm -i' or 'rpm -U', you have to give the filename of the package
file (e.g. licq-0.85-1.i386.rpm or whatever naming scheme they use at
Red Hat); when you use other rpm functions you have to give just the
name of the package (e.g. licq). This is the single most common
confusion I see, especially as it bit me as well a couple of years ago.

>As of yet I can't find any damn website that has the tar.gz version of
>qt-devel so i can compile and install it myself.

The Debian copyright file says that the sources came from ftp.troll.no,
or you could get the Red Hat source package from ftp.redhat.com or one
of its mirrors.

>This is a must as obviously the rpm won't work. 
>Actually when i used linux a couple years ago rpm didn't work then
>either so no surprise it wouldnt work today even though it was telling
>me everything was fine ( no error messages once I forced the
>installation).

Sounds like you were confused about rpm then too, if you'll forgive me
for saying so ...

>Unfortunately the new version of licq uses the newest version of qt
>which forces me to upgrade qt as well. Why can't they keep using the
>same version of qt? geez

Because presumably the newer version fixed some bugs and improved some
things, or I imagine it wouldn't have been released.

As an aside, if you used Debian you could just do 'apt-get install licq'
and everything would be upgraded automatically. </advertisement> :)

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
If I had mayonnaise I'd be dangerous.

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From: Urs Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Second FAT32 partition can't be mounted
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:20:15 -0400

"infamis.at.programmer.net" wrote:
> 
> try doing
> 
> # mount /dev/hda12
> 
> first and if that doesn't work,
> 
> # mount -t vfat /dev/hda12 /mnt/win2
> 
> and tell what happens

In both cases, the output is the same:

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda12,
       or too many mounted file systems

However, when the command is executed from a text mode shell rather 
than from an X Window Terminal, there is additional output:

[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12, FAT 0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap]
[me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,ts=0,ls=0,rc=0,fc=4294967295]
Transaction block size = 512
VFS: Can't find a valid MSDOS filesystem on dev 03:0c.
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda12,
       or too many mounted file systems

The additional output is the same in both cases. 

(Strangely, this more detailed output cannot be redirected with 
">" or "2>" as usual. Does anybody know why? Isn't it standard error?)

Does this give anybody any clue?

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From: "Michael Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI support in RH 6.2, kernel 2.2.14-5.0
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:27:51 GMT

Thanks David and Gary.  I may have enough information to work though
this  :-).  If additional guidance is required to solve this matter, I
will post a follow-up reply to this message.

Mike




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From: alex k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: various LILO vga settings/tux images
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:32:35 GMT

man lilo.conf
seriously...

kernel optons section
vga=...

i chose ask. then tried a few options,
and when i had decided i could put that in
the lilo.conf instead.

extract:
# vga = 791
# vga = normal
vga = 5


the tux image?
AFAIK its something about compiling the kernel with
framebuffersupport.
do a search.



In article <TK1E5.4803$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  JC Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> Can someone tell me what would be the valid settings for vga= in
> /etc/lilo.conf.  What are the different tux images/resolutions
available?
>
> --
>        JC VOLLMER  TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD    DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]  SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK  DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
> CONSOLIDATED LINT  IGNORE FULLWISE               DOWN WITH BIG BROTHER
>

--
. 
. 
...: [ ~~~~~~~ ] :...


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: Second FAT32 partition can't be mounted
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:41:51 GMT

Urs Vollmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3649 cylinders
>Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
>/dev/hda1   *         1      1020   8193118+   c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
>/dev/hda2          1021      1023     24097+  83  Linux
>/dev/hda3          1024      3649  21093345    5  Extended
>/dev/hda5          1024      1278   2048256   83  Linux
>/dev/hda6          1279      1533   2048256   83  Linux
>/dev/hda7          1534      1597    514048+  83  Linux
>/dev/hda8          1598      1661    514048+  83  Linux
>/dev/hda9          1662      1678    136521   82  Linux swap
>/dev/hda10         1679      1695    136521   82  Linux swap
>/dev/hda11         1696      1712    136521   82  Linux swap
>/dev/hda12         1713      3649  15558921    c  Win95 FAT32 (LBA)

The type of hda1 should be 0B.

The type of hda3 must be 0F.

The type of hda12 should be 0B.

The reason that you cannot mount hda12 may be that the data is written
to a location inside on of your other partitions.

Note that when you change the type of hda3 to the correct value,
Windows will attempt to read at the correct location. I.E. you may not
be able to see the data.
-- 
Svend Olaf

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: downloading and running programs help
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 17:30:41 -0500

Gaz wrote:
> 
> Im a complete newby to Linux..Have mandrake 7 and I was wondering how to
> download and install programs ..
> I have downloaded one but their is no set up to it how do I do this..
> thanks

What kind of file is it? .rpm  .bin  .tar.gz  .gz ????

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:40:07 -0500
From: Gene Hopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kppp modem commands

I am trying to get the modem commands on Kppp to slow the
dialing speed. Right it is configured at 70 ms according to
the query of the modem. I would like to slow it down to 150 ms
but everyplace that I try to insert the ATS11=150 doesn't seem
to work. Does anyone know where is the right place or an
alternate command to make this work? Thanks for your help.

By the way I am using Linux Mandrake 7.1 and Kde.

Gene



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Ristroph)
Subject: Re: Which shell to use, sh, csh, tcsh or bash?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 23:58:29 GMT

>>>>> "Justin" == Justin Dubs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Justin> 
Justin> switch to Bash and never look back!  :-)  i'm serious.  It has a lot of
Justin> wonderful features that will grow on you.  filename and directory name
Justin> completion via the TAB key.  a wonderful history.  a directory stack.
Justin> functions.  

All of these are available from a properly configured tcsh shell as
well, if you like the csh syntax.  I recommend bash above tcsh though.

Look into zsh.  The reasons why I prefer it above bash are:

1) Retrieving an entire multi-line command from history.  If I run the
   command:

for i in 1 2 3 ; do
echo $i
done

   then the up-arrow key in bash will successively return me "done",
   "echo $i", and "for i in 1 2 3 ; do".  But in zsh I get all three
   lines in an editable mode.

2) Command completion:

   If I put these lines in the appropriate file

# ftp takes hostnames
ftphosts=( mstargate.ast.external.lmco.com outsider.alphatech.com ext.rlab.cs.nyu.edu 
spee
dy.isotic.org hornet.hardlink.com pinto.hardlink.com bronco.hardlink.com )
compctl -k ftphosts ftp
compctl -k ftphosts telnet
compctl -v -S '=' -q declare export integer local readonly typeset

# ssh (secure shell)
compctl -k hosts \
        -x "c[-1,-l]" -u \
        - "c[-1,-i]" -f \
        - "c[-1,-e]" -k "(~ none)" \
        - "c[-1,-c]" -k "(idea des 3des tss arcfour none)" \
        - "c[-1,-p]" -k ports \
        - "c[-1,-L] c[-1,-R] c[-1,-o]" -k "()" \
        -- ssh

    Then when I type "ftp h" and then hit TAB, it completes to
    hornet.hardlink.com.  Same for telnet.  If I type "ssh -l " and
    then tab, it completes on usernames, and then after I set the
    username, TAB will complete on the machine name list.

    I also have it set up so "kill" will complete on the jobs.

    This is really useful when you get it set up right.

--Rob

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Subject: Re: DSL with a Nortel Modem on Linuxppc
From: Bill Pringlemeir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 00:09:44 GMT


 "http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/"

Made by a Canadian, it works like a charm. Bonne chance.

>>>>> "Alexandre" == Alexandre Binette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Alexandre> Hi!  I just installed Linuxppc on my iMac DV SE, and I'm
 Alexandre> not able to install correctly my DSL connection. It would
 Alexandre> be great if anybody could tell me all the steps to get the
 Alexandre> DSL working!

-- 
If Robert Di Niro assassinates Walter Slezak, will
 Jodie Foster marry Bonzo??

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