Linux-Setup Digest #849, Volume #19              Tue, 17 Oct 00 20:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: ***how to burn mandrake 7.1 to CD*** ("Peter van Eerten")
  Re: Partition help (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: ADSL won't work on RH7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: I need a help (Stanislaw Flatto)
  replacing 2-button with 3-button mouse (Jeffrey J. Hallman)
  Re: ADSL won't work on RH7 (Bill Pringlemeir)
  RH 7 - full of bugs ?? (Mikkel Heisterberg)
  Compiling kernel problem (Rafael - LumesITSupport)
  How to upgrade RedHat linux (Rafael - LumesITSupport)
  Re: alpha XP1000 and compaq poerstorm 300/350 graphics ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Redhat 6.2 Killing processes ("Peter van Dam")
  Re: Compiling kernel problem (Vilmos Soti)
  Shutdown equivalent to rc.local ("Scott Watson")
  Re: RH 7 - full of bugs ?? ("David ....")
  Redhat FTP install on disk manager IDE drives? ("Mike Stilado")
  Re: Problems compiling tulip module on RH 7.0 (msume97)
  Re: How to upgrade RedHat linux (Mickey Stein)
  Linux install on a X386? (me)
  Re: Partition help (Rich Grise)
  Re: Linux install on a X386? ("Philo")

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From: "Peter van Eerten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: ***how to burn mandrake 7.1 to CD***
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:12:05 GMT

In a Linux environment:

cdrecord -v -dev=6,0 -speed=4 ulysses-inst.i586.iso

...where the "dev" options specify the LUN to which your burner is attached.
Adapt the speed to the possibilities of your burner. The last file is the
ISO file to be burned.

P.

"Learner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:CUNG5.471213$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anyone know how to burn the mandrake 7.1 to CD?
> I downloaded Mandrake7.1 from the offical site, is a big file, 998 mb how
> can i make it into 2 cds
> i know there are two images that can download seperately, but i got the
full
> file, don't want to download the images again. can anyone help me please?
>
>



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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition help
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:24:20 +1000

Hi!
Just consider: S.u.S.E distribution on 6 CD's with umpteen editors, scores
of compilers for every imaginably computer language and thousands of
programs
says that when you instruct "install all" it may need < 5G.
On single user box you live luxuriosly in ~2G.
So install in part of the drive and leave part unassigned. You can always
hang
additional space later for any partition that gets crowded.
For Swap 100M will serve fine. And you can have multiple swap partitions.
Stanislaw.

Brian osborne wrote:

> Hi
>
> I need some advice on partitioning my harddrive.  I have a 15g drive
> just for linux.  I'm thinking about making seperate partitions for
>
> swap
> /var
> /home
> /usr
> /boot
>
> and /
>
> I just dont know how big I should make each of them.  I have 128m of ram
> so what size should I make my swap partition?
>
> Thank
>
> greg


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ADSL won't work on RH7
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:13:57 GMT



> PPPoE is still fairly immature. Sometimes one PPPoE implementation
works
> and another doesn't. If I'm not mistaken, RH 7 comes with the Roaring
> Penguin PPPoE client, which is fairly popular; but there are others.
> Check http://www.rodsbooks.com/network/network-dsl.html for a few
links.
> If you continue to have problems, please post some more details --
most
> importantly, what DSL provider you're using. Also, be sure that your
DSL
> provider actually USES PPPoE. Not all do.
>

I wouldn't have asked the question if I didn't know that my provider
uses PPPoE.  I know that my provider does.  I'm using the RH7 RP
(roaring penguin) PPPoE client.  This same client worked fine with Red
Hat 6.2 and Mandrake 7.1, this is why I'm baffeled that it won't work
with RedHat 7.  I'm using Southwestern Bell (SBC) as my DSL Provider.  I
have a Kingston NIC.

Michael Mucciarone


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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need a help
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 08:26:45 +1000



toutatis wrote:

> Ho installato su un disco ( comperato apposta ) di 20G prima W98 ( su 15 G
> dell'hard disc ) poi successivamente ho installato sui restanti 5 G liberi
> Corel Linux, tutto bene durante l'installazione poi al riavvio non mi carica
> LILO, al suo posto ( chiaramente poich� ha spostato la partizione attiva )
> mi compare la scritta " nessun OS ".
> Sono andato a vedere con FDISK se era stato installato Linux ... positivo! e
> allora dopo averci provato venti volte non so pi� che pensare, boh!
> Quando l'ho installato senza W98 a bordo andava a meraviglia perch� adesso
> non carica ?
> Se qualcuno mi pu� aiutare sarei grato
>
> G.CARLO

Nie zrozumialem! A teraz co zrobic?
Stanislaw.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey J. Hallman)
Subject: replacing 2-button with 3-button mouse
Date: 17 Oct 2000 17:38:18 -0400

Two mouse questions:

1.)  I am running Storm Linux 2000, which is based on Debian 2.2. When I
installed Linux, I had a 2-button serial mouse on the machine, and it worked
fine. Recently I obtained a 3-button serial mouse and hooked it up in place of
the 2-button mouse.  The left and right buttons work, the middle one doesn't.
What do I need to do to get all 3 buttons working? 

2.) During the Storm Linux installation, it ran a little mouse detection and
configuration program.  Where is that program, and can I run it now to set
things up?  If not, is anyone working on something like this?  One of the very
few nice things about Windows is that you can often add new hardware, and the
OS will recognize it on reboot, ask for driver disks, and so on.  Changing the
installed hardware on a Linux system seems much more complicated.

Feel free to reply via email or followups.

Thanks,
-- 
Jeff Hallman          [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Subject: Re: ADSL won't work on RH7
From: Bill Pringlemeir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:39:44 GMT


Run ifconfig and see if the eth0 (or whatever the ADSL modem is using)
has an IP assigned or not.  It maybe that some module loading
functions don't work with your newer distribution.  You might try the
install by hand or did Roaring Penguin's PPPoe come with RH7?

I saw some dlpi or something define in the newest PPPoE code.  I think
it is a different network interface; maybe it is for the 2.4 kernel.

Does adsl-start work?  Does `ifconfig' show your ethernet card?  
`ifconfig -a'?

Bill

>>>>> "mikemucc" == mikemucc  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 mikemucc> I wouldn't have asked the question if I didn't know that my
 mikemucc> provider uses PPPoE.  I know that my provider does.  I'm
 mikemucc> using the RH7 RP (roaring penguin) PPPoE client.  This same
 mikemucc> client worked fine with Red Hat 6.2 and Mandrake 7.1, this
 mikemucc> is why I'm baffeled that it won't work with RedHat 7.  I'm
 mikemucc> using Southwestern Bell (SBC) as my DSL Provider.  I have a
 mikemucc> Kingston NIC.

-- 
I'm receiving a coded message from EUBIE BLAKE!!

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From: Mikkel Heisterberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 7 - full of bugs ??
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:44:44 +0200

I finally decided to make our newest Linux box a Redhat 7 box, but while
downloading the iso-images I read a couple of postings on various Linux
web-sites that the Redhat 7 is filled with bugs - is this right ??
Should one refrain from version 7 and go with version 6.2 instead ??

Any suggestions welcome.

lekkim


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From: Rafael - LumesITSupport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compiling kernel problem
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 15:50:38 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was patching my kernel in RedHat 2.2.15 using patch 2.2.16.
I was trying to compile it but I gor errors. It was no problem before
patching to compile. How I can compile my kernel or which patch I should
use to patch my RedHat kernel. ???

Help

Rafael


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From: Rafael - LumesITSupport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to upgrade RedHat linux
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 20:21:21 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How to upgrade RedHat linux from 6.2 (with kernel 2.2.15-3.0) to RedHat
7.0 without upgrading kernel?
I would like to do this because RedHat 7.0 kernel do not support my
HPT370 chip.

Rafael


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: alpha XP1000 and compaq poerstorm 300/350 graphics
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:35:48 GMT

In article <8rkf12$a8r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "JJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is a TGA2 card and is not supported, replace it with an elsa
gloria
> Synergy..
>
> JJ
>

No, sorry, they are not TGA2's. They are Evans and Sutherland cards.
The PowerStorm 3D30 and 4D20 are TGA2 cards.

Jeff D


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Before you buy.

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From: "Peter van Dam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 6.2 Killing processes
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 00:06:57 +0200

Redhat 6.2

It is easy to add a Snnxxxx script to one of the rc<n>.d directories
but I have not yet seen one of my Knnxxxx scripts being executed
when the runlevel changes to 6 or 0.

I did study RH-DOCS\ref-guide\s1-sysadmin-boot.htm but that does
not explicitely explain how and when the K* scripts get executed.
It seems pretty straightforward but does not work as expected.

What am I missing?

-peter




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Subject: Re: Compiling kernel problem
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:57:52 GMT

Rafael - LumesITSupport <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was patching my kernel in RedHat 2.2.15 using patch 2.2.16.
> I was trying to compile it but I gor errors. It was no problem before
> patching to compile. How I can compile my kernel or which patch I should
> use to patch my RedHat kernel. ???

If you use a RedHat provided kernel, then don't patch. They are not the
official kernels.

Vilmos

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From: "Scott Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shutdown equivalent to rc.local
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:48:57 -0400

In rc.local I call some scripts I want run when my system boots, however, I
also need to run some scripts when the server is being shutdown.  What is
the equivalent script for shutdown procedures.


thanks
scott.



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From: "David ...." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 7 - full of bugs ??
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:46:25 -0500

Mikkel Heisterberg wrote:
> 
> I finally decided to make our newest Linux box a Redhat 7 box, but while
> downloading the iso-images I read a couple of postings on various Linux
> web-sites that the Redhat 7 is filled with bugs - is this right ??
> Should one refrain from version 7 and go with version 6.2 instead ??

I have been noticing the same thing. I have a stable 6.2 system and
don't want to mess it up. I will probably wait for 7.1 or even 7.2 to
come out and then upgrade maybe.

I think I would recommend 6.2 and the updates for it.

my .02 cents
-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: "Mike Stilado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat FTP install on disk manager IDE drives?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:01:13 -0700

I have an old pentium box running win.  It has disk manager on the drives or
else they wouldn't boot (large HDs not supported by BIOS).

I am considering doing a Redhat FTP internet install.  Can I just put in the
redhat install floppies and will it let me use and reformat these drives
without disk manager like software? Will it detect the drives OK?








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From: msume97 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems compiling tulip module on RH 7.0
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:10:06 -0000

One suggestion that I would make is that if you have the space, the install 
everything option is the way to go.  I realize this is a waste of space if 
you don't use all of the packages, but it will save you a lot of headaches 
with dependancies and compiling source in the future.  I'm no guru either, 
but if your willing to give it a try it just might work.  As for the 
directories you mentioned, I created the /usr/src/modules directory and the 
other one is actually /usr/src/linux-2.2.16/include on my machine. Though I 
didn't have to change anything in the make file the .c files to compile, it 
worked as is.

HTH


tpdean wrote:
> 
> 
> This method didn't work for me.  I too performed a clean installation of
> RH7.  I could never get the .c files to compile into .o files.  When I 
type
> "make" a lot of gibberish scrolls by on the screen, and no .o files 
appear
> in the directory.  I did notice, however, that there was an
> "-I/usr/src/linux/include" switch on the gcc command issued by make.  
That
> directory doesn't exist on my filesystem.  (Neither does /usr/src/modules
> for that matter.)  In the /usr/src directory, there is another directory
> called redhat which contains BUILD, SOURCES, SRPMS, etc..  I assumed the 
-I
> option looks for a path to the header files, so I manually issued the gcc
> command that make called, and changed "-I/usr/src/linux/include" to
> "-I/usr/include", but this didn't work.  I performed a workstation
> installation of RH7 (I'm no linux guru by any means).  Is there another
> package I should install to get this to work?  I just need some help 
getting
> these modules to compile.
> 
> thanks
> 
> 
> "msume97" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > David .. wrote:
> > >
> > > msume97 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am having problems compiling the tulip.o module for my linksys
> > etherfast
> > > > card.  I have a fresh install of redhat 7.0 and have downloaded all 
of
> > the
> > > > files from ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/network/tulip.html (pci-scan.h
> > > > pci-scan.c, kern_compat.h, and tulip.c).  The pci-scan.o module 
seems
> > to
> > > > compile OK, but when I try to compile the tulip.c file I get the
> > > > following errors:
> > > >
> > > > [root@localhost modules]#
> gcc -DMODULE -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c
> > > >
> > > > I have compiled this module under redhat 6.2 with out a problem.  
Any
> > > > suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > This work on 6.2 not sure about 7.0
> > >
> > > gcc -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -I/path/to/module -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes
> > > -O6 -c tulip.c `[ -f /usr/include/linux/modversions.h ] && echo
> > > -DMODVERSIONS`
> > >
> > > --
> > > Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> > > Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> > > ID # 123538
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks David.
> >
> > Your post gave me some ideas and I finally solved the problem.  Here's 
my
> > solution.
> >
> > After 3 days and 5-6 re-installs these are the steps that were finally
> > successful in installing the tulip.o module needed for my Linksys
> > Etherfast NIC.  By the way, I did have the card working under RH6.2 and
> > tried to upgrade to 7.0 but that didn't work.  I initially tried to re-
> > compile the tulip module in that scenario without luck.  So I went with
> > the shotgun approach and did a fresh install of RH 7.0 and this is the
> > procedure that worked for me.
> >
> > Download the netdrivers.tgz package from 
ftp://ftp.scyld.com/pub/network
> >
> > Untar the file in some dir. I used /usr/src/modules but you can pick 
your
> > own.
> >
> > tar -xvzf netdrivers.tgz
> >
> > Make sure you're in the directory that you untared the netdrivers.tgz
> > file.  Compile the source files, .c files, with the make command, i.e.
> > type make in the same terminal window you typed the tar command.
> >
> > make
> >
> > You should then see some interesting text scroll by.  When it's 
finished
> > you'll see the command prompt again.  Do a ls to see what files are now 
in
> > the directory.  You should see that a bunch of new .o files have been
> > added.  These are your new network modules.
> >
> > Next check to see if the new tulip.o module works by using the insmod
> > command.  Note you must insmod the pci-scan.o module before the tulip.o
> > module or you'll get an error.
> >
> > insmod pci-scan.o
> >
> > insmod tulip.o
> >
> > Install the tulip.o and pci-scan.o modules into the /lib/modules/`uname 
-
> > r`/net dir.
> > Note you may want to rename the old tulip.o module before you do this, 
or
> > you can simply overwrite it.
> >
> > mv /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net/tulip.o /lib/modules/`uname -
> > r`/net/tulip.old
> >
> > install -m 644 pci-scan.o tulip.o /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net/
> >
> > Now modify the /etc/modules.conf file as follows:
> >
> > alias eth0 tulip
> > options tulip options=0 debug=1
> >
> > After this you can use netcfg to set up your ip address and gateway
> > settings.
> >
> > Finally restart your network with the following command:
> >
> > /etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
> >
> > Well, that's it.  I hope this helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
> 
> 


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From: Mickey Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to upgrade RedHat linux
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:23:12 -0700

I just did a similar upgrade (62 ->70) with files ftp'd to my hd. After
booting the floppy and choosing upgrade to an existing installation, it
allows you to pick "custom install" which allows you to pick the packages
to upgrade. I upgraded only the ones I wanted which didn't include my
kernel (which I didn't want tampered with) and didn't include my beta kde2
version. Seems to work fine, although when trying to upgrade to kde2rc2
today, I noticed that only the qt 2.2.1 source built correctly and the kde
srcs gave me ./configure problems. Maybe that has something to do with the
RH7 upg? (or not)
    good luck, Mick


Rafael - LumesITSupport wrote:

> How to upgrade RedHat linux from 6.2 (with kernel 2.2.15-3.0) to RedHat
> 7.0 without upgrading kernel?
> I would like to do this because RedHat 7.0 kernel do not support my
> HPT370 chip.
>
> Rafael


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From: me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux install on a X386?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:38:34 GMT

Hi all,

Hope someone can help with this one.  I have a x386 that I can not seem
to get Linux installed on.

Try number one (and two and three...) was using RH6.1 via CDROM.  It
hung soon after loading the NIC drivers while leaving the CDROM drive
churning madly.  I tried leaving it for as long as an hour but no
change.

Try number two (and four and five...) was using RH6.1 via FTP.  I
networked it to another of my PC's running RH6.1 and used the net
install to get the files I had stored on the Hard Drive.  It hung while
trying to retreive the base/stagetwo.img file.  A check of the FTP logs
showed it had grabbed about 5900 bytes before freezing.

Is this a hardware problem?  Or perhaps I just do not have enough memory
to install Linux?


Relevant Hardware: x386, 8Mb Ram

Thanks in advance,

-Raj


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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 16:52:10 -0500
From: Rich Grise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition help

I've heard people say to just make one big mongo partition, mount
it at /, and hang everything else off it. (except the swap 
partition, of course.) I have a 3G drive in one partition for 
Linux, and a 4G in 5 partitions for Windoze: C:, D:, E:, F:,
and Linux swap. The way I understand it, the filesystems are
quite different, and having a big partition in Linux doesn't
waste disk space the way Windoze's "Allocation Units" do.
(there's no reason to allocate 32 KB of disk space for a 
1K text file, which I think Linux doesn't do.)

Cheers!
Rich

Brian osborne wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I need some advice on partitioning my harddrive.  I have a 15g drive
> just for linux.  I'm thinking about making seperate partitions for
> 
> swap
> /var
> /home
> /usr
> /boot
> 
> and /
> 
> I just dont know how big I should make each of them.  I have 128m of ram
> so what size should I make my swap partition?
> 
> Thank
> 
> greg

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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux install on a X386?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 19:02:05 -0500

although it may be difficult to get more than a minimal install on your
machine...
you must be sure to get an i386 distribution...
are you using a distro designed for use on a pentium or 486 machine???


you might also try such small er distros such as peanut linux or pygmy linux

--

Philo

website: www.plazaearth.com/philo



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