Linux-Setup Digest #891, Volume #19              Tue, 24 Oct 00 03:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Help: RPM cannot upgrade itself (Ed Dickhoff)
  Re: Help: RPM cannot upgrade itself (Ed Dickhoff)
  Re: Help!  PCMCIA and Mandrake 7.1 (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: mail problems (Rob Ristroph)
  Re: acces to internet (David Efflandt)
  3c509 NICs and Red Hat 6.1 ("Roy Troxel")
  3c509 NICs and Red Hat 6.1 ("Roy Troxel")
  Upgrading SuSE 6 to 7 on laptop with DVD drive ((Wm. Randolph Franklin))
  Re: crontab (David Efflandt)
  Re: 99% Done, Please help me out with the 1% left (Rob Ristroph)
  Adaptec AIC 7896 SCSI (Janis Ivanovskis)
  Re: Remote CD (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Mount (Eric)
  Re: X Windows not working (Eric)
  Re: Win2000 on Linux (Eric)
  Re: More Than 4 Primary Partitions on 1 HD ?-  You Can! (Phil)
  Re: linux redhat 6.1 install problem (Eric)
  PPTP/PPP (Jean-Yves Toumit)

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From: Ed Dickhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: RPM cannot upgrade itself
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:17:26 GMT

Kit-pui Wong wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I have RPM 3.0.4 on our Redhat box 6.2. When I tried
> to install some packages from Redhat 7.0, it
> failed and saying that this rpm version was unable
> to do that.  Then I downloaded the lates rpm.xxx.rpm
> and found that the old version was also unable to
> upgrade this rpm.rpm package.
>
> May to tell me how to solve such an recursive problem ?
>
> Thanks in advance !
> KiT
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Yes,  I have the same problem (although I'm on Redhat 6.0).  Someone
please help!

Ed.


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From: Ed Dickhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help: RPM cannot upgrade itself
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:17:26 GMT

Kit-pui Wong wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I have RPM 3.0.4 on our Redhat box 6.2. When I tried
> to install some packages from Redhat 7.0, it
> failed and saying that this rpm version was unable
> to do that.  Then I downloaded the lates rpm.xxx.rpm
> and found that the old version was also unable to
> upgrade this rpm.rpm package.
>
> May to tell me how to solve such an recursive problem ?
>
> Thanks in advance !
> KiT
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Yes,  I have the same problem (although I'm on Redhat 6.0).  Someone
please help!

Ed.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Help!  PCMCIA and Mandrake 7.1
Date: 24 Oct 2000 01:19:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Spenser wrote:
> I really haven't installed anything to get the PCMCIA ethernet
> recognized. So, maybe a better question is this:  Do I need to install
> drivers/packages/etc.  for  the PCMCIA sockets?  When I use the probe
> command, I get this: PCI bridge probe: TI 1250A found.

Note that this tells something about the hardware that the PCMCIA cards
plug into, not the cards themselves.

> It may be a dumb question since the PCMCIA ethernet adapter is seen.
> What leads me to this question is that I cannot get Internet access.

The pcmcia-cs user-space programs need to be installed, and the pcmcia
kernel modules need to be available.  You can tell whether a card is
identified by running "cardctl ident", and see its status with "cardctl
status".  (That's probably located at /sbin/cardctl.)

You can see whether a network card is up and running by running "ifconfig"
(probably "ifconfig eth0" should do): the third line will say "UP" or not.
If it's UP, but not doing what you want, you probably need to change the
options associated with the address (or the routing, etc.).  If it's not
yet UP, you probably need to specify those options; they belong in the
network.opts file.

See the PCMCIA HOWTO
 http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/doc/PCMCIA-HOWTO.html
especially sections 2 and 4.

-- 
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text.  Any images, 
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Ristroph)
Subject: Re: mail problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:16:15 GMT


Do you have a ~/.forward file that has the command "| vacation claus"
in it ?  Try deleting that file if so.

It's hard to help you with out more information.  I can tell you that
vacation is some program that does a standard auto-response to
received mail (used when people will be on vacation and unable to
check their mail for a while).

Look in /var/log/maillog and in /var/spool/mail and poke around.

--Rob

>>>>> "Claus" == Claus  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Claus> 
Claus> Everybody who sends me mail get the following error message back and my mail
Claus> service can't figure out what is causing it.
Claus> I need help. Any ideas ?
Claus> 
Claus> Thank you very much for your help.
Claus> 
Claus> Claus
Claus> 
Claus> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
Claus> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:49:08 -0500
Claus> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Claus> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Claus> Subject: Returned mail: unknown mailer error 1
Claus> 
Claus> The original message was received at Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:49:07 -0500
Claus> from IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [138.110.1.10]
Claus> 
Claus>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
Claus> "|vacation claus"
Claus>     (expanded from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
Claus> 
Claus>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
Claus> 554 "|vacation claus"... unknown mailer error 1
Claus> 
Claus> 
Claus> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: acces to internet
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:49:25 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 01:30:06 -0000, jenaknight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>David .... wrote:
>> 
>> jenaknight wrote:
>> > 
>> > I just installed Mandrake 6.0 and it works fine, but then installed one
>> > external modem wich in fact conects to internet but once it's conected 
>i
>> > cant browse with netscape it tells me tha there is a problem with the 
>sock
>> 
>> Did you setup /etc/resolv.conf with your ISP's DNS servers?
>> 
>> nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>> nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>> 
>> -- 
>> Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
>> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
>> ID # 123538
>sound easy but wich ip should i write there, if it not too much trouble 
>and abiously i know nothing about this.
>otherwise directme to some place with all the answers

See:  man resolver

If your ISP did not give you nameserver(s), connect with a Windows box and
then see what winipcfg.exe shows for nameserver for PPP.  Once you can get
connected with Linux you could do a 'whois your.isp' and find out what
other nameservers they might have.  Or:

nslookup
set q=any
your.isp

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/

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From: "Roy Troxel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3c509 NICs and Red Hat 6.1
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:50:46 GMT





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From: "Roy Troxel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3c509 NICs and Red Hat 6.1
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:52:39 GMT

Last May, I created a firewall on an RH6.1 box with two 3Com 3c509B
Etherlink III ISA network cards. These were on Red Hat's list of compatible
hardware. The firewall worked OK for a month, but then the NICS stopped
working properly. (I figured out that the problem was the NICs after several
hours of testing them on Windows NT boxes, where they worked OK.) After a
few more hours of configuring in Linux, they finally worked again. Then,
about a month later, the same problem occurred, and it's occurred regularly
every four or five weeks. After several hours of re-configuring the NICs
suddenly work again. The actual solution is never the same.

Should I just use different NICs, and ,if so, what kind works best with RH
6.1?

Thanks, in advance,

Roy



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From: (Wm. Randolph Franklin)  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upgrading SuSE 6 to 7 on laptop with DVD drive
Date: 23 Oct 2000 23:26:52 -0400
Reply-To: (Wm. Randolph Franklin) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have a Sony VAIO SR7K notebook running SuSe 6.3, Win98 and
Win2K.  I`d like to upgrade to SuSE 7 with the DVD, but am being
blocked at every step.

1. While in linux, I can read the DVD.  So I run yast.  However,
   it complains that it is 1.03, and that I need 1.05 to upgrade
   from the files on the DVD.

2. I try to boot directly from the DVD.  The VAIO BIOS starts
   booting fine from the DVD.  However, once linux takes over, it
   says it can no longer see the SuSE Linux installation CD (which 
   it just booted from). The reason is that now I need to supply a 
   DVD driver (but how do I do that?)

I can imagine various messy potential ways around this, but hoped
that someone might have an easy solution to get one of the above 2 
methods to work.

Thanks.

----   
(Wm. Randolph Franklin)    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: crontab
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:54:48 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 22:29:15 +0200, JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi
>i'm not sure if this is the right newsgroup but i'll try:
>I have to use sendmail on a machine for a php class that i give. The
>administrator told me best would be to strat senmail when the class
>starts and turn it off at the end. But he's too busy to do it! And i'm
>not a specialist...
>Can somebody tell me what to put in a crontab so that the sendmail
>daemon starts at a given time and stops at another??
>Thanks,
>    JM

On RedHat or Mandrake you could (from root crontab) do:

/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail start
/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail stop

but I am not sure what other Linux distributions do for init scripts.
Otherwise see 'man sendmail' or http://www.sendmail.org/

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Ristroph)
Subject: Re: 99% Done, Please help me out with the 1% left
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 05:42:36 GMT


As for audio CDs, you can use the cdrecord option.  You will have to
install cdrecord and read the man pages; or search the web.  Basically
you are going to end up giving a list of .wav files on the command
line to cdrecord in the order that the tracks should appear in.
Something like:

cdrecord dev=/dev/sd0 audio song.wav song2.wav . . .

But that's probably wrong, look at the documentation.

As for QuickBooks Pro, I don't know all of it's features.  Linux has a
number of spreadsheets, and a few accounting like programs; I would do
some searches on www.freshmeat.net.

--Rob


>>>>> "smithj" == smithj  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
smithj> 
smithj> 99% Done, Please help me out with the 1% left
smithj> I started out 3 months ago but removing windows from all the
smithj> computers in my home and not 3 months later I can do 99% of my
smithj> work on Redhat 7.0.  The following is a list of issues(things)
smithj> that I am still trying to find out how to do on Redhat. If you
smithj> can help me please let me know I would like to close the book
smithj> on this!!
smithj> 
smithj> 1) I use to use QuickBooks Pro on windows for running my bus, Does
smithj>    anyone use someone good??
smithj> 
smithj> 2) I am a DJ and I burn alot of music cd. I use to make a master cd
smithj>    and then burn copies on windows.  Now that I am using
smithj>    Redhat.  How do I copy music cd's (no gaps on the track
smithj>    changes)??  One more thing I only have one cd-rom so I have
smithj>    to make a image and then burn the copies.
smithj> 
smithj> 
smithj> 
smithj> 
smithj> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
smithj> Before you buy.

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From: Janis Ivanovskis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Adaptec AIC 7896 SCSI
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:45:08 +0000

I have the subj. SCSI card, i cannot boot up RedHAT Linux 7.0. I
loaded aic7.xxx module, but anyway, it says thats scsi hosts: found 0.
 Can anyone help.

Thnx.

John.

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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remote CD
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:42:33 -0400

Plathora wrote:
> 
> I have an old PC running Linux as my gateway.  I would like to put some more
> software on this machine but I don't have a CDROM for it.  Is there a way I
> can mount a remote CDROM from a Windows machine to the Linux box?

On the Windows machine, 'Share' the cdrom drive, and load the cdrom into
it.
On the Linux machine, smbmount the shared drive

-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mount
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:01:10 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aleksandar Petkovic wrote:
> 
> Hi all!
> I am fairly new to Linux, and I'm running RH6.1 (latest kernel), and I'm
> 
> having trouble mounting my CD-Rom and Floppy. I was wondering if anyone
> could help me in any way. The problem I'm having is that of getting an
> error message which talks of an incorrect filesystem type, and this is
> probably due to the fact that I have /etc/fstab incorrectly configured.
> This is what I do have in the file:
> 
> /dev/hdb6             /                          ext2
> defaults        1 1
> /dev/hdb1            /boot                    ext2
> defaults        1 2
> /dev/cdrom          /mnt/cdrom         iso9660    ro,users,noauto,unhide
> 
> 0 0
> /dev/hdb5            swap                   swap       defaults        0
> 
> 0
> /dev/fd0               /mnt/floppy         auto
> ro,users,noauto,unhide 0 0
> none                    /proc                    proc
> defaults        0 0
> none                    /dev/pts               devpts    gid=5,mode=620
> 0 0
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated as to how I can correctly
> configure this file, and ultimatelly be able to succesfully mount my
> CD-Rom and Floppy. Thanks a lot!
> 
> Aleksandar Petkovic

I don't see anything wrong with this fstab.
Are you sure the floppy/CD you try to mount is formatted with the FS you
expect. So, if the floppy is empty, first try to `mke2fs /dev/fd0` then
mount it. CD-audio discs cannot be mounted, nor can empty CD-R(W) discs

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X Windows not working
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:02:18 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Stefanus Johny wrote:
> 
> I'm a newbie in Linux, and I just installed Red Hat 6.2 on my computer. the
> installation went well without error. however i can't get the x window to
> work even though i have include everything during setup.
> 
> can anyone help me out?
> thanks in advance
> Johny

run the startx command when you've logged in.
(and beware, linux is case sensitive)

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win2000 on Linux
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:06:00 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Narumanchi Muralidhar wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I want to install win2k on my m/c which already has Linux .
> All the sites/FAQs that I've come across explain how to install Linux on
> win2k and not the reverse.
> I have imp. data on my machine which I don't want to lose - hence could
> I load win2k without having to format or reload Linux?
> I'm sorry if I'm asking a question that's in FAQ - in that case could
> anyone please give me the URL which hosts the FAQ.
> Thanks in Advance,
> Murali.

I wouldn't dare to, but I've read about people that have succeeded.
usually MS products tend to believe that they are the only OS you want
to use, so they take over the entire HDD. Your best bet is to put it on
a separate HDD, that way you can ensure that no data on the linux disc
is corrupted. Otherwise I strongly advise you to back-up all important
data. You should do this anyway, if you really have data you do not want
to lose. head-crashes and powerfailures can still occur and trash your
data.

Eric

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil)
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.os.os2.setup.storage,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: More Than 4 Primary Partitions on 1 HD ?-  You Can!
Date: 24 Oct 2000 07:07:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 01:15:06 -0400, Felix Miata

Felix,

Can you explain this in terms of how you alter the partition table.
What is the "before" and the "after?"  Could you write a DOS batch
file or provide patches that modify/restore the partition table?

Phil
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Everyone knows a partition table only has room for four entries. Right?
>Well, just because the table can only hold four doesn't mean the disk
>must be so limited. PowerQuest's PTEDIT.EXE allows you to put anything
>you like in a partition table. If you don't know what you're doing, you
>can easily blow away your HD data. But, if you take a little time to
>learn and be careful, you can have as many primaries as your creative
>mind and partition table editor can manage.
>
>Most of us don't really need all the space on our monster disks, but
>sometimes, it can be helpful to have more partitions. Several days ago I
>realized the Powerquest's Boot Magic would not start OS/2 9.036 from a
>logical drive. Using IBM Boot Manager, this partition started and ran
>just fine. I had removed BM in order to utilize its partition table
>entry to create an extra windoze boot partition and do some
>experimenting without blowing away the current installation. Because it
>won't automatically make necessary the partition table entry adjustments
>required to hide and unhide primaries as necessary, I couldn't use LILO.
>So, I installed Boot Magic, which was claimed by Powerquest and other
>OS/2 users to work as advertised.
>
>Boot Magic refused to start OS/2. I emailed Powerquest. Their reply was
>that what I wanted to do wasn't possible, without offering a reasonable
>explanation why. I didn't really want to waste the experimental windoze
>effort just to get access to an OS/2 partition I didn't need, but it
>really bothered me that it wouldn't boot, and I wanted to see if the
>cause might have been something I did while experimenting with windoze.
>
>So, I opened up PTEDIT.EXE, and recorded the data making up the
>partition table entry for the newer windoze partition. Then I replaced
>that data with zeros, and marked one of the others active and visible.
>On exit, the active partition booted and worked just fine. Next I ran
>OS/2 FDISK to install IBM Boot Manager in freespace that already existed
>ahead of the windoze partition I had just made disappear with
>PTEDIT.EXE. Following this, all primary partitions in the partition
>table were in the Boot Manager menu and bootable, and so was the logical
>OS/2 partition that Boot Magic had refused to start.
>
>Since everything worked, I tried reversing the process once again. I
>started up PTEDIT.EXE, recorded the values for the Boot Manager
>partition table entry, then replaced them with the values I had
>previously recorded for the experimental windoze partition. I set that
>partition to active and restarted. Then I reactivated Boot Magic.
>Everything worked as before, with all three primaries working, but with
>the OS/2 logical still not.
>
>Once again I reversed the process using PTEDIT.EXE. Everything,
>including logical OS/2, works fine, and that's where it stands at the
>moment. I imagine other tools could be used to make the necessary
>partition table changes, possibly Linux FDISK or DFSEE, but PTEDIT.EXE
>worked well enough for what I wanted to do.

Phil Burton 
. 

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux redhat 6.1 install problem
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 09:08:31 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

jon germano wrote:
> 
> I think this is a partition problem but I am not sure how to fix it I have
> tried to create new partions using fdisk but I still get an error at the
> point where I am choosing to install gnome workstation that says something
> to the effect that it can't install the software because the hardware is
> not set up for it.  I am not sure how to get this going any help would be
> great.  The system I am running is a abit bp6 mobo, 128mgs ram, voodoo3,
> sblive, 15 gig maxtor hard drive, 3 gig maxtor hard drive.  Currently the
> 3 gig maxtor drive which is the one I want to do the linux install on is
> on a seperate ide slot and is listed as a secondary master.
> thanks for the help
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/

There's BIOS around that cannot boot from any HDD that isn't connected
to the primary IDE channel. Might be your problem, try connecting it as
/dev/hdb.
I'm not sure if this is the reason for your problem though, but it could
be a future problem anyway.

Eric

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From: Jean-Yves Toumit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: PPTP/PPP
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:09:42 +0200

Hello all!

I've just installed the new RedHat 7.0 and have problems with the
PPTP/PPP stuff.
I have an ADSL connection which worked really fine with the previous
RedHat (6.2, the connection was set up in a few minutes) but I simply
can't manage to set it up under that new RedHat 7.
So, what did I do?
- installed pptp
- edited /etc/ppp/options and added these lines :
                 name "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
                 noauth
                 noipdefault
                 defaultroute
- edited /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and added the line with the login/password

I have two ethernet cards on my linux box, eth1 is connected to the ADSL
modem.
So I have turned DHCP on and it gots the dynamic address (10.0.0.1) from
the modem pretty well.
I can access the modem with pings, and "ifconfig eth1" gives me the
right 10.0.0.1 address.
Then, I use "./pptp 10.0.0.138" and watch the logs.
There, ppp complains :
timeout sending LCP ConfigReqs
and then quits.
What did I do wrong? I have checked hundred times the login/passwd so it
mustn't be that.
I guess it's about the ppp config that something is getting wrong.

Last but not least, it's not an ISP problem because the connection under
Windows works fine.

Thanks for any tips!
JY.

PS : please e-mail me also the replies at [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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