Linux-Setup Digest #919, Volume #19 Fri, 27 Oct 00 17:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: HP35480A scsi tape drive config (Craig McCluskey)
Re: Fdisk doesn't see part of my disk!!!!!! (Eric Rickerson)
Re: "Branded" machines and linux ("David N. Haney")
Re: Reinstalled now GUI kde doesn't start aotomatically ("bluster")
Partition Problems ("Daniel Russel")
Re: "Branded" machines and linux (Edward Lee)
Re: How to reclaim disk partitions from other OS? ("bluster")
Re: Going to try Linux (Dog Meat)
How do I mix libc5 apps with glibc2.1 apps? (Scott Witherell)
e-mail routing
Re: "Branded" machines and linux (Roger Blake)
ATI Xpert2000 video card and RH 6.0 ("Frank Goffena")
Re: "Branded" machines and linux (Edward Lee)
Re: Restricted root privledges ("Peter T. Breuer")
Using an ISP with linux (Openlinux) ("David Dickinson")
Connecting to a windows 98 home network ("David Dickinson")
Using Netgeat Fast Ethernet FA310 with LM 7.1/7.2? (Emilio =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9rez?=
Sanchez)
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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: HP35480A scsi tape drive config
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:11:55 -0500
Guy Smith wrote:
> Well, the symptoms changed a bit after I selected a resonable varitation of
> a scinit.def file.
I've used 35480As on two different Red Hat 6.X systems and it's been
trivial. There is, in addition, no scinit.def file.
> What I think I need is the data to feed stinit. HP's support site was
> useless.
If you can honestly say that, you did not look very far nor try very hard.
http://209.38.194.51/ddstree/symptom3.html is place for DDS troubleshooting
help.
http://www.hp.com/cposupport/prodhome/hp35480add9824.html is the starting
place for finding information about the drive.
http://forum1.support.hp.com:88/servlet/CLA_Servlet.Login?forumNum=000221
is the place to sign up for and enter the HP Community Forum for HP
Surestore DAT Tape Drives. Here you can read an actual person's answers to
specific questions from people who have signed up for the Forum. If you go
there, you will see several questions from me.
I downloaded the entire manual set in PDF form from one of HP's web sites,
but I did not bookmark the page. The manuals are in a 1.3MB tar.gz file
(maybe a tar file which I compressed on my system).
> Now the tape drive will not hold onto a tape. Insert
> the tape, it loads, spins for a few seconds, then ejects.
If the tape has been loaded more than 99 times, the drive will
automatically eject it. Try a different tape.
> "mt load" results in an I/O error.
> Attempting a tar results in " Cannot write: No medium found"
If the tape won't stay loaded, errors from mt and tar are normal.
Craig
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From: Eric Rickerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fdisk doesn't see part of my disk!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:20:24 -0700
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If you need the data on the 5Gig partition you better back it up.
I had a similar problem. The only way i got it was to redo the drive.
have a boot disk handy.
did you try fdisk /mbr
ElPato wrote:
> Here is the problem:
> I had win2k on a 10Gig partition, and winme on a 5Gig partition, all on
> one harddrive. Linux was alone on a different drive, LILO installed.
>
> I decided to wipe out win2k altogether, so I fdisk'd and deleted its
> partition. Now fdisk sees only one drive of 5Gigs taken at 100%; in
> other words, the 10 Gig partition is not seen by fdisk.
> BTW, I wiped out Linux also on its own drive.
>
> How can I recover the 10Gig partition without, of course lose my 5Gig
> where all my backup files recide?
>
> Help please!!!!!!!
>
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> Before you buy.
--
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<br>If you need the data on the 5Gig partition you better back it up.
<br>I had a similar problem. The only way i got it was to redo the drive.
<p>have a boot disk handy.
<br>did you try fdisk /mbr
<br>
<p>ElPato wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Here is the problem:
<br>I had win2k on a 10Gig partition, and winme on a 5Gig partition, all
on
<br>one harddrive. Linux was alone on a different drive, LILO installed.
<p>I decided to wipe out win2k altogether, so I fdisk'd and deleted its
<br>partition. Now fdisk sees only one drive of 5Gigs taken at 100%;
in
<br>other words, the 10 Gig partition is not seen by fdisk.
<br>BTW, I wiped out Linux also on its own drive.
<p>How can I recover the 10Gig partition without, of course lose my 5Gig
<br>where all my backup files recide?
<p>Help please!!!!!!!
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From: "David N. Haney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Branded" machines and linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:23:33 GMT
marvin greenberg wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about getting an HP, IBM or Compaq desktop to put linux on,
> because these boxes tend to be quieter (for a music server in the living
> room.) Does anyone have any experience putting linux onto these? Any
> issues with their (typically) strange propietary bioses or onboard video, etc.?
>
> Anyone with real concrete experience?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Marvin
> P.S. I have a RH distro now, but wouldn't have a problem building a kernel
> special.
I have put first RH then Caldera on a Compaq machine. The problems
I see are:
1. You will get NO HELP from the hardware manufacturer if you put
LINUX on "their" machine. In fact, Compaq's solution to problems
is to have you run their "Quick Restore" which repartitions and
reformats the disk. This would kill your LINUX.
2. Some branded machines like Compaq hide the CMOS settings and
make it more difficult for you to change things, and they dont
document it. In particular, you need to be careful about the
write protection of the MBR which is where LILO should be written.
3. Many of these branded machines use on-board accessories, like
sound, SCSI, 10/100 BT, etc, and these customized features (while
supported by Win due to special drivers) are sometimes not supported
by LINUX. This also has an effect on upgradeability.
My experience with non-branded machines has been much more pleasant
than with branded machines. I chose the branded machine mostly for
the price. Oddly enough with all the rebates the Compaq was less
expensive that a non-branded machine.
Good luck.
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reinstalled now GUI kde doesn't start aotomatically
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:27:19 -0400
A-Need-to-Learn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had to reinstall due to a bug in the kde. Unfortuantely my CDROM (was
> borrowed and now scratched) failed to install XFree86.... I have managed
to
> fix this (finally) but don't know how to start the GUI automatically. Can
> someone please tell me what I need [startx??] and the best script to put
it
> in so that it starts automatically.
> TIA
It sounds like the new install set the default runlevel
to 3 (full network no GUI) which makes sense since you
had to install X11 by hand. The default runlevel is set
in the /etc/inittab file. Most distro's use these
definitions of runlevels:
0 - halt (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
1 - Single user mode
2 - Multiuser, without NFS (The same as 3, if you do not have networking)
3 - Full multiuser mode
4 - unused
5 - X11
6 - reboot (Do NOT set initdefault to this)
To change the default runlevel to 5 (X11 login) edit the
/etc/inittab file, look near the top of the file for a line
that looks like this:
id:3:initdefault:
and change *only* the 3 to a 5 (be carefull while messing
with this file, as it is resposible for part of the boot process)
That will make the system boot to the GUI login prompt.
To go to runlevel 5 without rebooting use the init command, e.g.
# init 5
HTH,
Bluster
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From: "Daniel Russel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Partition Problems
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:36:03 -0700
I have a scsi hard drive with the first 10 gigs or so taken up by my C:
partition and my partition contain my windows 2000 setup. I would like to
get dual boot working without killing my 2k partition, but have been having
problems. LILO from the redhat 6.2 installation failed to work (I presume
since I could not put the root partition within the fist 1024 cylinders).
BootMagic crashes when I try to run it from its floppy disks and parted will
not find my hard drive when I boot using the standard parted boot floppy. As
a result I can't figure out a way to resize my C partiton to put the root
near the beginning of the drive. Does anyone have any ideas how to get
around these problems? Thanks.
--Daniel Russel
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From: Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Branded" machines and linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:47:31 -0700
"David N. Haney" wrote:
> marvin greenberg wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking about getting an HP, IBM or Compaq desktop to put linux on,
> > because these boxes tend to be quieter (for a music server in the living
> > room.) Does anyone have any experience putting linux onto these? Any
Why would you want to have your server in the living room? I have mine in the
garage. My music client boot off a flash drive (hard disks are too noisy) and play
music over NFS. Furthermore, i underclock my CPU (no fan) and lower the power
supply fan speed with a small resistor (30 ohms). I hardly hear anything other than
the music.
>
> > issues with their (typically) strange propietary bioses or onboard video, etc.?
>
>
> I have put first RH then Caldera on a Compaq machine. The problems
> I see are:
>
> 1. You will get NO HELP from the hardware manufacturer if you put
> LINUX on "their" machine. In fact, Compaq's solution to problems
> is to have you run their "Quick Restore" which repartitions and
> reformats the disk. This would kill your LINUX.
>
> 2. Some branded machines like Compaq hide the CMOS settings and
> make it more difficult for you to change things, and they dont
> document it. In particular, you need to be careful about the
> write protection of the MBR which is where LILO should be written.
Someone mensioned that Compaq put their soft bios on the hard disk. It wouldn't
work with Linux.
>
>
> 3. Many of these branded machines use on-board accessories, like
> sound, SCSI, 10/100 BT, etc, and these customized features (while
> supported by Win due to special drivers) are sometimes not supported
> by LINUX. This also has an effect on upgradeability.
>
> My experience with non-branded machines has been much more pleasant
> than with branded machines. I chose the branded machine mostly for
> the price. Oddly enough with all the rebates the Compaq was less
> expensive that a non-branded machine.
>
Windows only machine costs less and worth less.
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to reclaim disk partitions from other OS?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:47:10 -0400
> > > [root@dec1997 /root]# mkfs -t ext2 /dev/hda1
> > > mke2fs 1.15, 18-Jul-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
> > > /dev/hda1: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library while setting up
> > > superblock
> >
> > Looks like something may be breaking the automatic filesystem size
> > determination part of mke2fs, perhaps it is reading bad info from the
> > partition table. :(
>
> Indeed, and fdisk states this explicitely : reboot!
>
> after that the partition table is re-read and all should function again.
> Messing with your partitiontable is one of the few things that still
> require a good reboot.
>
> Eric
Well that is not what my fdisk (v2.10f) man page says:
" A sync() and a BLKRRPART ioctl() (reread partition table
from disk) are performed before exiting when the partition
table has been updated. Long ago it used to be necessary
to reboot after the use of fdisk. I do not think this is
the case anymore - indeed, rebooting too quickly might
cause loss of not-yet-written data. Note that both the
kernel and the disk hardware may buffer data."
Are they fibbin'? wouldn't be the first time...
Bluster
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From: Dog Meat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Going to try Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:36:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> just make sure that you in fact have a partiton (rather than free
space) to
> install linux.
Do you mean a "swap" partition, as opposed to swap file? ...or another
partition to install Linux onto. I had understood that Mandrake would
handle the partitioning. I am now running a single partition. I have
an older Win95 version of Partition Magic. Will that work with '98?
How big should I make the Linux partition? I have just under 1 gig
free on my HD.
> when you get the the installation, i've always had better luck
deleting the
> spare partition
> to create the free space to add your linux partitions.
I'm confused now. What "spare" partition? ...the one I create to
install Mandrake?
I've been checking in at www.linuxnewbie.net and MandrakeUser.net,
trying to get a feel for what I'm in for. Lot of seemingly good stuff
there....
-- DM
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Before you buy.
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From: Scott Witherell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I mix libc5 apps with glibc2.1 apps?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:47:51 -0400
I'm running Redhat 7.0 and everything seems ok so far, except that I can
no longer run Matlab like I could under RH 6.2. A little research
showed that Matlab 5.3.1 was built off the libc5 libraries - which I
don't have. I'm wondering what I need to do to run apps built off
either set of libraries. It was suggested that I get the rpm
ld.so-1.9.11 and install that. I'm a little worried I'll overwrite an
existing library, though. Ideally I could just put the libc5 libraries
in their own separate dir, but I'm not quite sure how to do that.
I'm also sure that I don't really understand enough about this to avoid
doing damage - if anybody has any suggestions on what to do - or not to
do - then I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Scott
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: e-mail routing
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:03:48 GMT
Currently I just use netscape's e-mail to connect to my ISP's mail server via
pop/smtp.
Is it possible for linux to retrieve e-mail from a POP server and then have it
available locally for any e-mail client I want to use? Netscape's e-mail
client is really deficient.
My machine's name is C298344-A.arvada1.home.com, but sending e-mail to my
machine causes delivery problems; I think it is because the name isn't
registered as an e-mail server. The error I get is:
...
----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Host unknown (Name server: c298344-a.arva
da1.home.com: host not found)
...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Subject: Re: "Branded" machines and linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 20:21:23 GMT
On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:47:31 -0700, Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why would you want to have your server in the living room? I have mine in the
For that matter, what the hell is a "music server?" Some weird replacement
for a regular stereo set? (Since when do you need a computer to play
musci?)
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: "Frank Goffena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATI Xpert2000 video card and RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:31:25 -0400
I am new to Linux, so please bear with me.
During the installation, XConfigurator did not list any rage 128 drivers for
this card. I followed the link from ATI's website and to make a long story
short, found that I need to install the Linux-ix86-glibc21 package.
Hopefully I am on the right track so far. I downloaded this package in
Windows to a FAT16 drive, then copied the files to my Linux partition in the
/root/installs/xfree86/ directory in which I created. When I run the
Xinstall.sh script, it gives me a list of files (all of the .tgz files) that
need to be in the current directory. I am in the current directory when
running the script. I type this command while in the /root/installs/xfree86/
directory:
sh Xinstall.sh
Am I on the right track to get X to work with my video card, and why might I
be getting this error.
TIA for any help,
Frank Goffena
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From: Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "Branded" machines and linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:44:55 -0700
Roger Blake wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:47:31 -0700, Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Why would you want to have your server in the living room? I have mine in the
>
> For that matter, what the hell is a "music server?" Some weird replacement
> for a regular stereo set? (Since when do you need a computer to play
> musci?)
>
I have about 60 GB of disk space available for mp3 (~ 1 MB/min). I can play
roughly 60,000 minutes without repeating, or 1,000 hours or 41 days. Actually, i
only have about 1 GB of mp3s.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Restricted root privledges
Date: 27 Oct 2000 20:30:22 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc ne... <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Oct 27, 2000 at 15:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] eloquently wrote:
:>Is it is possible to give a user restricted
:>root privledges to upgrade/install rpm packages only ?
: I think sudo is what you are looking for.
However, since he can install a new sudo that would then allow him to
do anything, it's hard to see the difference between this and full
superuser powers.
Peter
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From: "David Dickinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using an ISP with linux (Openlinux)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:51:00 +0100
Hi I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me of any ISP's that have
software for connecting to the web via linux. (UK)
Similar to that which is available for windows systems.
I know I can use kppp - to dial in, but unfortunately i do not have enough
data to fill in all fields for my ISP (lineone)
So can you get for example - virgin net for linux systems - so as to be able
to double click on an icon and it connects to the web for me - lazy!
Thanks for any help
Dave
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From: "David Dickinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Connecting to a windows 98 home network
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:54:45 +0100
Can you tell me how to connect to my home network so as to share files etc..
I have Caldera OpenLinux 2.2.
I have assigned the 2 win98 computers with IP address's and I think I set up
an address for the linux machine when installing Linux - however when I look
at the network neighbourhood in windows I fail to see the Linux system.
And I have no idea what I would use in the linux environment - that is
similar to windows network neighbourhood.
Please Help
Dave
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From: Emilio =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9rez?= Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Using Netgeat Fast Ethernet FA310 with LM 7.1/7.2?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:57:30 +0200
Hi!
Can anybody help me and explain who I can bring my linux to recognize my
Netgear FA310 Ethernet-Adapter?
I tried with a new install, but when probing PCI-Adapters it fails and
the offered list does not contain any entry for this card.
Anyone running this type of card under LM 7.1/7.2?
Thanks for your help...
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