Linux-Setup Digest #919, Volume #20 Mon, 26 Mar 01 22:13:08 EST
Contents:
How do I set up my isp connection? ("Roy Mahlev")
Re: Windows 2000 and Linux (Craig Kelley)
Re: Linux version of Hyperterminal? (Craig Kelley)
Re: Varying number of cylinders (Dustin)
Re: Why people are doing that? (Dustin)
Re: Got these drivers, don't know what to do with 'em... (Phil Edwards)
Help with modem configuration (Henry Meyerding)
Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version ("Mike Ruskai")
Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version ("Mike Ruskai")
Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version ("Mike Ruskai")
Strange problem with LILO (screen full of 01's) ("John Byers")
Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version (Yves Bellefeuille)
Re: Setting up user xconsole with RedHat 7.0 ? (Marc D Bumble)
Re: SOLVED: getting compiled-in sound to work (Mladen Gavrilovic)
How to create a read-only root partition (Malcolm Cifuentes)
������bredhat 6.2�i�H 7.0�N����O?( �L�u�������d) ("stephen")
Re: How to create a read-only root partition (E J)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Dances With Crows)
Re: bootable disk/cd supporting reiserfs and LVM (Rod Smith)
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From: "Roy Mahlev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I set up my isp connection?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:08:36 +0200
I have got the Red Hat 6.1 in my pc which already connected to a modem and
already have an acount in an ISP.
How shall I set up my connection with just the linux installation disc?
Thanks
Roy.
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 and Linux
Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:35:08 -0700
"Alim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > should be Primary Master!) I don't know how you got to hdg, I doubt
> > you have 7 IDE drives...
>
> I should've explained that... I'm using an ABIT KT7-RAID with LS120 on hdb,
> DVD-ROM on hdc, the 307045 on hde and the 307045 on hdg....
>
> well I'll try it again, but really, it just jumps back to the lilo menu when
> i tell it to boot from /dev/hde (ie the bootloader, which is clearly within
> the 1024 cylinder limit, which I had problems with until buying the second
> hard disk!). but tomorrow I'll tell
> you how it goes. again!! Thanks though
That could be because lilo is installed on the MBR of the other drive
(?).
What's on hda then?
> why does the linux disk have to be the primary master? surely it doesn't
> matter.
No, it doesn't -- but if you want to keep your NT bootloader intact,
you need to install lilo on a drive that isn't using it.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux version of Hyperterminal?
Date: 26 Mar 2001 16:35:37 -0700
"Jeff Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Newbie question: How do I use Linux to talk with a device (i.e. router, PBX,
> etc) via the PC's serial port? This has got to be so basic and fundamental
> that I can't seem to find a HOWTO or Mini-Howto on the subject. Any
> information would be appreciated.
Console version: minicom
X11 version: seyon
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Varying number of cylinders
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:37:36 -0600
Eric en Jolanda wrote:
>
> > I have a 30gb Maxtor 53073U6 (7200rpm-eide) which, when I first
> > installed it using os2 fdisk, was reporting 1027 cylinders under
> > fdisk with BIOS set to Auto/LBA on an Asus-Tx97 (award).
I purchased a similar drive: Western Digital 30GB 7200rpm
WD300BBRTL. My bios cannot handle drives greater than 8.4GB. I
installed Mandrake 7.0 on this drive and did not have any
problems. Linux sees and can use the entire 30G.
> adds up to (almost) 30G
> So don't worry fdisk/linux uses the right values.
> Is the BIOS setting changed? does that use 1027 cylinders?
> Or is the drive jumpered to appear smaller, for old BIOS's?
>
> > Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
> > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> > /dev/hdd1 1 3736 30009388+ 5 Extended
> > /dev/hdd5 * 1 61 489919+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/hdd6 62 361 2409718+ 7 HPFS/NTFS
> > /dev/hdd7 * 362 1001 5140768+ 83 Linux
> > /dev/hdd8 1002 1071 562243+ 82 Linux swap
> > /dev/hdd9 1072 3736 21406581 83 Linux
>
> There are no big peculiarities here, except that hdd1 is the wrong type
> As it extends beyond cylinder 1024 it must be made type 0x0F.
>
> Besides that, you shouldn't make two partitions have a bootable flag.
> It also doesn't make much sense to me, to make a extended partition
> bootable. You can leave this untouched, but the bootable flags provide
> no useful function.
>
> Eric
Here is the partitions as I set them up:
Disk /dev/hda: 16 heads, 63 sectors, 58168 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 21 10552+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 22 58168 29306088 5 Extended
/dev/hda5 22 6263 3145936+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda6 6264 6771 256000+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda7 6772 23416 8389048+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda8 23417 58168 17514976+ 83 Linux
I made sure that my boot part. is within the 1024 cyl. hda5 is
root, hda7 is /usr, hda8 is /home.
Dustin
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From: Dustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why people are doing that?
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:51:33 -0600
I agree w/ Jeremy. I would add that, although Windows drivers
install easier and quicker, there are still many problems in
Windows. One example is a winmodem driver that repeatedly had
problems. Several times a week I had to remove the modem from
Device Manager and reboot the system. Windows found the modem,
installed the driver, and all worked fine for a few days.
I don't mind taking several hours to configure some program or
card if I know that when I am done . . . I AM DONE. You don't
have to go back and reconfigure in two weeks or two months
because of some unknown, unresolvable problem. And, you don't
have to go back and reinstall the OS over and over and over . . .
I have been supporting Windows in all of its forms since Windows
3.1. I have never been so frustrated with any other OS's as I
have w/ Windows. I welcome the surmountable challange of Linux.
And, I don't miss the marathon phone support calls that never
resolved anything . .. because MS doesn't know the answer either.
Dustin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Got these drivers, don't know what to do with 'em...
Date: 26 Mar 2001 18:49:18 -0500
Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Modules.cgz is a compressed cpio archive. You use a command like:
> zcat somepath/modules.cgz | cpio -id
> and that extracts into the current directory (you'll have a "2.2.16"
> directory or such created, with files below that).
That's more information than what the controller card vendor has given me,
so thanks very much.
> to go the other way, being unfamiliar in the ways of cpio. But you
> can copy the modules you need in order to boot from hard disk (you
> might have to deal with initial ramdisk files if you need to module
> early on in boot process).
Oh, cpio and I are old friends. :-) But copying the modules -- now that
I have confirmation that these are "modules" in the insmod&co. sense -- to
the hard drive for booting is exactly what I intend to do. I'm willing to
fsck around with mkinitrd for the first time if that's what I need to do.
(I can't find mkinitrd 2.6 for the new kernel, though; RH seems to have
changed all their servers around.)
> I don't know what "build a new kernel against these modules" means.
> They may be .o files, but I don't think you can just link a module
> statically to a kernel (could be wrong).
I /think/ you're correct. The last time I had to mess with Linux modules
was during the kernel change from 1.x to 2.0 when modules were officially
introduced.
Phil
--
pedwards at disaster dot jaj dot com | pme at sources dot redhat dot com
devphil at several other less interesting addresses in various dot domains
The gods do not protect fools. Fools are protected by more capable fools.
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From: Henry Meyerding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with modem configuration
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:02:38 -0800
I had RedHat 7.0 installed and used the PPP Configurator to set up a
dialup connection with my ISP. Then I had an "expert" who telnetted in
to set up diald. He has done something so that the regular ppp connect
program thinks the modem is busy. Can anyone help me to set up the
relevant files to their default state so the modem dials and connects?
Thanks
Please respond to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Henry Meyerding
Growing old is inevitable.
Growing up is still an option.
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From: "Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:10:08 GMT
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:47:41 GMT, Robert Nichols wrote:
[snip]
>Sorry, but it's not the only kernel on your system. The disk blocks
>containing the image of your old kernel are still intact in the free
>space on your disk, and your boot sector (probably the MBR) and
>/boot/map contain a list of those block numbers. As soon as any of
>those blocks get re-used you won't be able to boot. Before that happens
>you need to re-run the Lilo installer to insert the disk addresses for
>your new kernel into the boot sector and /boot/map.
Thank you for an actual explanation. I never would have guessed that LILO
ignores the file system. Not exactly a good design.
A second recompile resulted in a non-bootable system, which I imagine is
the result of those blocks being overwritten as you said.
--
- Mike
Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.
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From: "Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:11:22 GMT
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 14:49:57 +0200, Eggert Ehmke wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 21:03:26 +0200, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>Mike Ruskai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> To install Slackware 7.1, I had to boot from the Slackware 7.0 scsinet.s
>>> disk, because the aic7xxx driver compiled into the 7.1 version is broken.
>
>Did you by mistake mess up the kernel source tree ? If the old kernel tree
>was in /usr/src/linux and you just unpacked the new kernel tree on top of
>it, you have mixed stuff. There MUST be NO /usr/src/linux at the time you
>unpack the kernel tree from the tarball. After untar, rename it to
>/usr/src/linux-2.2.16 and set a symlink /usr/src/linux to it.
This was a clean install. The problem, as it turns out (assuming the
respondent was correct - I'm verifying that at this moment), was a
misunderstanding on my part of how LILO works.
--
- Mike
Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.
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From: "Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Mike Ruskai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:29:37 GMT
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:07:20 GMT, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>Mike Ruskai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Changing what, so it's no longer bodged? Or do you simply have no clue
>> what the problem is, and felt like being a rude wanker anyway?
>
>No. I am trying to tell you to accept the evidence of your eyes and
>quit vascillating. Wy do people resist logic so forcefully! It's most
>annoying. You have all the evidence you need, now believe it.
>
>I have plenty of ideas as to what is wrong. So will you, once you start
>thinking instead of bullshitting. The logical conclusion is staring you
>in the face: you messed up; you compiled a kernel that thinks it's
>2.2.13. Go back, do it all again, this time correctly.
I'm afraid my conclusion was correct - you're just being a rude wanker.
The kernel was compiled correctly (I reversed 'make dep' and 'make
menuconfig' in my post, but not reality).
As was pointed out by someone else, the problem was with how LILO
functions.
>If you want some clues as to where you messed up, once you accept that
>you did, I suggest you try and understand where the version string
>comes from. It should be in version.h in the source tree, and also
>modified by a possible extra suffix given in the Makefile. So go check
>what they say. If you find that there is more than one version.h on your
>system, and one of them says one thing, and another says another,
>you'll have some more food for thought! You'll probably conclude
>that you either unpacked the source wrong, or you failed to unpack it
>in the right place, or you failed to make some needed links in the rest
>of your system, near the /usr/include area.
All incorrect, of course. It's good you're so sure of yourself, and feel
comfortable being rude and obnoxious. You should just be aware that it
removes all doubts to the question of whether or not you are a complete
prat.
--
- Mike
Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail.
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From: "John Byers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Strange problem with LILO (screen full of 01's)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:55:25 GMT
I'm trying to install Suse7.1, and the system works fine except that the
only way I can boot it is from the install CD. If I try to install LILO
either on the MBR or on a boot disk, when I try to boot, I just get a screen
full of looping 01 01 01 01 01 01's... I've never seen this before, and it
has me totally clueless. My system is a Duron 950 on an MSI K7T-Pro2A with
a WD 40GB HD. Any clues as to what the heck this problem is and how to fix
it would be greatly appreciated!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yves Bellefeuille)
Subject: Re: uname -r gives incorrect kernel version
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:00:41 -0500
Reply-To: Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, "Mike Ruskai"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you for an actual explanation. I never would have guessed that
> LILO ignores the file system. Not exactly a good design.
LILO runs just after the BIOS; it's in the Master Boot Record (MBR). It
runs before Linux, DOS, Windows, or anything else is installed.
LILO *must* ignore the file system, since there's nothing running that
can read a file system yet.
It's not clear to me if you've solved your problem yet; if not, make
sure your new kernel is in /boot, modify /etc/lilo.conf as necessary to
point to your new kernel, and run /sbin/lilo to re-install LILO.
--
Yves Bellefeuille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ottawa, Canada
Francais / English / Esperanto
Esperanto FAQ: http://www.esperanto.net/veb/faq.html
Rec.travel.europe FAQ: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/travel/europe/faq
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Subject: Re: Setting up user xconsole with RedHat 7.0 ?
From: Marc D Bumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Mar 2001 20:09:38 -0500
Has anyone gotten xconsole to work for user logins with Redhat 7.0? I
have gotten it to work with xdm, but not gdm. Have tried fiddling
with the PAM security settings in /etc/security/console.perms, but no
luck yet. Thanks in advance for any assistance.
marc
--
--
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SOLVED: getting compiled-in sound to work
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:41:20 GMT
I figured it out when I went through all the Documentation for like the
3rd time:
sb=<io>,<irq>,<dma-low>,<dma-high> for wave
opl3=<io> for midi
both of these should be added to append in lilo.conf or otherwise input
manually at each boot prompt.
Mladen
Mladen Gavrilovic wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I just upgraded from 2.2.17-14 to 2.4.1 off of Red Hat's Wolverine
> package. Otherwise my system is a fully updated Red Hat 7. In the 2.2
> kernel the sound modules (sb, sound, opl3, and something like soundcore
> and soundlow I think) were just that-modules. They were initialized
> during bootup, and sound worked fine. However, with the new kernel I
> chose to compile in SoundBlaster support. I get no sound this way.
> These is the relevant dmesg output:
>
> Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
> sb: No ISAPnP cards found, trying standard ones...
> sb: I/O, IRQ, and DMA are mandatory
>
> Is there anything I need to do to help the kernel with the sound card?
> Possibly an append line in lilo?
>
> Thanks,
> Mladen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Malcolm Cifuentes)
Subject: How to create a read-only root partition
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Mar 2001 01:40:49 GMT
Hi all,
I wish to install RH 6.2 on a 160 MB disk.
The system has no swap and I require it to run at runlevel 3.
I wish to allow the system to be powered off with out having to shut it
down. In order to achieve this, I would like all the partitions on the
disk to be mounted read-only.
I have looked for some type of FAQ on how to do this and found nothing:(
My questions:
1. Is it possible to have the whole disk mounted as read-only
2. Is it possible to have '/boot', '/' mounted as read-only
Any clues appreciated,
thanks
mal
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to create a read-only root partition
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:38:33 GMT
Huh?! What?! What about the /tmp and /var/log directory? I don't think you
want them to be read only but
do a 'man fstab'
/dev/hdaX /some_linux_partition ext2
ro 1 2 # ro-Change to READ ONLY.
If you want the system to be powered off with less harm use an alternative
linux file system such as Reiserfs
or others file systems using file journaling.
Malcolm Cifuentes wrote:
> Hi all,
> I wish to install RH 6.2 on a 160 MB disk.
> The system has no swap and I require it to run at runlevel 3.
>
> I wish to allow the system to be powered off with out having to shut it
> down. In order to achieve this, I would like all the partitions on the
> disk to be mounted read-only.
>
> I have looked for some type of FAQ on how to do this and found nothing:(
>
> My questions:
> 1. Is it possible to have the whole disk mounted as read-only
> 2. Is it possible to have '/boot', '/' mounted as read-only
>
> Any clues appreciated,
> thanks
> mal
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 27 Mar 2001 02:58:38 GMT
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:05:38 GMT, Chad Everett staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:57:07 GMT, Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>"Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> weird filesystem layout (come on,
>>> init files in /sbin?!)
>>
>>Hmm, I don't recall this in 7.1. The layout was different from
>>RedHat and RedHat clones, but not unusual or confusing. Init files
>>could be found under the /etc hierarchy (perhaps via links?).
>
>Nope. In SuSE 7.1 all init scripts are in /etc/init.d and turned
>on or off and configured in /etc/rc.config. Don't see any init
>scripts in /sbin on my SuSE 7.1
FWIW, the original rationale for the scripts being in /sbin/init.d/ was
that the FHS said "executables do not belong in /etc." However, SuSE
6.1 .. 7.0 all have symlinks pointing to /sbin/init.d/ from /etc/rc.d/.
I prefer having them in /sbin/init.d/ instead of in /etc/rc.d/init.d/
because the /sbin/ path has fewer characters in it, making it quicker to
type on the command line. But it's really a matter of personal
preference.
The "incompatible RPM layout" has only caused me problems when
trying to install large things like GNOME or KDE2 from non-SuSE RPMs.
This is not a particularly good thing; I think all the folks who make
distros that use RPM should get together and decide on a standard naming
convention/filesystem layout, but that's never gonna happen :-[ .
Hmmph, long live tarballs....
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: bootable disk/cd supporting reiserfs and LVM
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 02:58:37 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Sunil Shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
> I was wondering if anybody has tried creating a bootable media
> which supports
> reiserfs and LVM. I would like to create it, so that in case of norml
> boot failure, I should be able to boot the system using the bootable
> media.
You don't say just WHAT media you want; however, it's not difficult to
turn a ZipSlack Zip disk into one that supports ReiserFS. I did this by
copying a kernel I compiled on my Mandrake system (and later one from a
Debian system) onto the boot floppy in place of the standard ZipSlack
kernel, and putting the kernel modules on the Zip disk. I've not tried
this with LVM, but I'd be surprised if it didn't work.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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