Linux-Setup Digest #920, Volume #19 Fri, 27 Oct 00 23:13:11 EDT
Contents:
just not possible I guess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Samsung network laser printer & Caldera (Chris Roed)
Re: AMD Athlon Thunderbird and Asus A7V Mobo running Linux????????
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Connecting to a windows 98 home network (rich)
Re: linux necessary? (Bob Plested)
FTP file security. (Postmaster)
Re: Using an ISP with linux (Openlinux) ("bluster")
SnapScan e50 and Linux (Plamen Neykov)
Re: KDE menu corruption (nick taylor)
trying to redirect compilation error ("Brian J. Rohan")
Re: just not possible I guess (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: trying to redirect compilation error (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: viewing Chinese. (Eric Y. Chang)
Re: e-mail routing (Colin Watson)
Troubble installing RAID1 ("Thomas Heppner")
Re: Partition Problems (Ben Goble)
Re: XFree86 4.0.1 (Douglas Bollinger)
Re: How to reclaim disk partitions from other OS? ("bluster")
Re: XFree86 4.0.1 ("Mick")
Re: Going to try Linux ("Philo")
Re: e-mail routing (Ed Hurst)
XFree86 font path questions ("Jon")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: just not possible I guess
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:16:49 GMT
I was reading a post on one of the linux newsgroups about the USB zip
drive and it quoted this
"give up and just wait until december when 2.4 is out"
I would like to say to you this, if we just all gave up and leaned on
the developers of the 2.4 kernel to make stuff work, then why the hell
are we even trying...exactly, because the above quote is NOT the
solution. I could just go fucking back to windows because I know the
drive will work there...but I don't want to...I want to learn how to
make it work in Linux...that is the whole point of Linux. Now, having
said that...I really do need help and unfortunately I am not getting
many replies. I have
Microtec Internation USB Zip drive w/ USB to 25-pin SCSI
has anyone a clue which kernel version and how I would make this thing
work since when I try to mount
/dev/sda4
it says, "kernel does not recognize this as a block device"
There must be a way to make this thing work...I am willing to try!!1
Dan
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From: Chris Roed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Samsung network laser printer & Caldera
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 16:18:02 -0500
I have a Samsung QL7000 laser printer which has networking capability built
into it. The printer comes with utilities to install it on a variety of Unix
systems (BSD, System V, HP, SUN OS 5, and so on). They compile and run OK, but
after installation the printer is not accessible. I can ping it, but not print
to it. This may be because the installation thinks the system is using BSD for
spooling while it is in fact using LPRNG. Has anyone successfully installed one
of these on a Caldera system and, if so, can you tell me how you did it. Any
suggestions on places to start (short of RTFM because it ain't in the FM) would
be greatly appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AMD Athlon Thunderbird and Asus A7V Mobo running Linux????????
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:21:53 GMT
It's a problem that originates from Linux's default inability to see the
other IDE chipset (promise) on the mobo. I wrote some instructions and
put them at
www.geocities.com/ender7007/index.html
but these are for RH6.2. I have tried to get it (the promise
controller) to work with Mandrake but could not find a way. I think it
is because they use a different loader (grub) instead of lilo, but I'm
not sure.
Goot luck.
Aaron Cline
Asus A7V and Linux Quasi-Mini-Howto
http://www.geocities.com/ender7007/index.html
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can anyone please tell me if they have information relating to the
> Asus A7V Motherboard & AMD's Athlon Thunderbird 800Mhz processor used
> together to run Linux?
>
> My install of Linux Mandrake 6.0 and 7.0 failed numerous times. It
> seems to want to start but just as it starts printing out the load
> sequence/procedure onto the screen at the LILO initial bootup it
> freezes after about 20 lines. One line I will always remember mentions
> this persons name.. "...Richard Gooch".
>
> I've installed Linux several times before and didn't think I'd still
> be at trying to install the OS. I figured I'd be onto learning Gnome
> by now but this is really hanging me out to dry. Can anyone please
> help me understand if I'm doing anything wrong here?
>
> Much thanks in advance for sure if anyone could help me.
> Rbh
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rich)
Subject: Re: Connecting to a windows 98 home network
Date: 27 Oct 2000 21:42:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Also schrieb David Dickinson:
>Can you tell me how to connect to my home network so as to share files etc..
>
>I have Caldera OpenLinux 2.2.
>
>I have assigned the 2 win98 computers with IP address's and I think I set up
>an address for the linux machine when installing Linux - however when I look
>at the network neighbourhood in windows I fail to see the Linux system.
Try to ping the Linux IP address. Do you have a hosts file in the
Windows subdirectory of the two Win boxes with the IP addresses of all
the machines? Do you have an /etc/hosts file with the same content?
If so, you should be able to ping the machine name as well.
How about the IP addresses? Are you using the non-routable ones?
>And I have no idea what I would use in the linux environment - that is
>similar to windows network neighbourhood.
Samba is the software which makes the Linux resources available to a
NetBEUI network. It should probably come with the Caldera distro and
have some kind of HOWTO or you can get info on how it works by going to
www.samba.org. That's where I'm going as soon as I get my 2nd linux box
up -- the first one is a tad too flakey and I am about to make my NT
server shut down for the last time. Woo Hoo.
--
Catch the cluetrain. http://www.cluetrain.com
Q. What's the difference between Batman and Bill Gates?
A. When Batman fought the Penguin, he won.
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From: Bob Plested <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux necessary?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:58:43 -0700
The mailing list suddenly ballooned. Hmm. I guess my answer would depend
on how you got those extra email addresses :)
Bob
Sophia93 wrote:
> Hey all-
>
> I'm working at a small, Windows-based company which is generating a
> rapidly-growing mailing list. Up until now, I've been getting by on
> Eudora but our list recently ballooned to 45,000 e-mail addresses.
> I've researched mailing list managers and I've found that most of them
> (Majordomo, ListServ) run best on a Linux or Unix OS. We don't have
> the budget to hire a professional mailing list service...some of them
> can run $500 a month. Majordomo is shareware, so that's probably my
> pick of the moment.
>
> I know that installing Linux can be a daunting task, but I'm prepared
> to get through it if it's the only platform I can operate my mailing
> list on. Do you think it's worth the trouble? Do any of you see any
> other way around it?
>
> Thanks!
> -Sophia
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: Postmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FTP file security.
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 15:27:04 -0700
I installed wu-ftp server, it is working fine, but when I login as any
user, I can see all the files and also can "ls /" successfully.
I want to restrict the access to the users only to his/her home
directory.
I have not /etc/ftpchroot.
Is it something with the /etc/ftpaccess? what should I change?
Thank you in advance.
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using an ISP with linux (Openlinux)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:41:40 -0400
David Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me of any ISP's that have
> software for connecting to the web via linux. (UK)
> Similar to that which is available for windows systems.
All the software you need comes with linux.
> I know I can use kppp - to dial in, but unfortunately i do not have enough
> data to fill in all fields for my ISP (lineone)
That should be the same info you need to type into the
MS win "Internet connection" program, e.g. phone num,
DCHP or static ip. You could copy it from a MS Win box
if you want.
> So can you get for example - virgin net for linux systems - so as to be
able
> to double click on an icon and it connects to the web for me - lazy!
My linux system automatically connects whenever I request packets from
outside my private net, I don't even need to click on an icon, just
start browsing. Just activate the "dial on demand" feature of pppd.
Hope this helps
Bluster
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From: Plamen Neykov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SnapScan e50 and Linux
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:45:28 +0200
Hi All,
Is it possible to use SnapScan e50 under Linux ?
Thanks in advance!
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From: nick taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KDE menu corruption
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:17:03 GMT
Here's what I did when that happened to me:
1. As root, create a new user, e.g., tester
2. copy the .kde folder from tester to the .kde folder under the
corrupted user.
That fixed things for me, hope it does for you.
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From: "Brian J. Rohan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: trying to redirect compilation error
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:12:57 GMT
When I try to compile kernel 2.2.17, I receive an error message and
then it quits. I am trying to redirct the output of the compilation,
but it does not seem to redirect the error messages. how can I get the
error messages sent to the file also??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: just not possible I guess
Date: 28 Oct 2000 00:16:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>I was reading a post on one of the linux newsgroups about the USB zip
>drive and it quoted this
>
>"give up and just wait until december when 2.4 is out"
>
>I would like to say to you this, if we just all gave up and leaned on
>the developers of the 2.4 kernel to make stuff work, then why the hell
>are we even trying...exactly, because the above quote is NOT the
>solution.
[-]
If it's a kernel thing then ..
(A) You can lean on the developers of the 2.4 kernel to make it work.
(B) You can become a kernel developer yourself and let others lean on
you to make it work.
(C) You could just go fucking back to windows.
..
If your car just went south you think swearing at it is going to help ?
Exactly, so there you're (and don't even try to tell me your car would
listen).
[-]
>Microtec Internation USB Zip drive w/ USB to 25-pin SCSI
[-]
Can't help either since I've got an Iomega SCSI drive which works
fine and, using ext2fs only anyway it runs on /dev/sdc1 (yes, I felt
free to ignore that "must be /dev/...4" stuff).
>has anyone a clue which kernel version and how I would make this thing
>work since when I try to mount
[-]
Try the latest development version perhaps or get you a decent ZIP
drive. I'm used to SCSI devices just working though so my judgment
may quite well be wrong regarding their SCSI (emulation).
Sorry,
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: trying to redirect compilation error
Date: 28 Oct 2000 00:21:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian J. Rohan wrote:
> When I try to compile kernel 2.2.17, I receive an error message and
>then it quits. I am trying to redirct the output of the compilation,
>but it does not seem to redirect the error messages. how can I get the
>error messages sent to the file also??
[-]
Try either this ...
make ... 2>&1 | tee /tmp/make.out
... or that ...
script /tmp/script.out
make ...
^D
... but it'll write ^M's too so ...
tr -d "\015" < /tmp/script.out > /tmp/make.out
...
The 2>&1 | tee thing is going to work with the (ba)sh and ksh while other
shells may have a slightly different syntax.
Cheers,
Juergen
--
\ Real name : J�rgen Heinzl \ no flames /
\ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Y. Chang)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,hk.comp.os.linux,linux.help,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: viewing Chinese.
Date: 28 Oct 2000 00:31:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cnprint-2.30.linux.lsm
=?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?= ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: How can I make Linux able to view chinese text in X windows? I don't
: want to change to a chinese interface.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: e-mail routing
Date: 27 Oct 2000 21:15:13 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Currently I just use netscape's e-mail to connect to my ISP's mail
>server via pop/smtp.
>
>Is it possible for linux to retrieve e-mail from a POP server and then
>have it available locally for any e-mail client I want to use?
>Netscape's e-mail client is really deficient.
Run a sendmail-a-like (say, exim) on your system, then use fetchmail.
>My machine's name is C298344-A.arvada1.home.com, but sending e-mail to my
>machine causes delivery problems; I think it is because the name isn't
>registered as an e-mail server. The error I get is:
>...
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Host unknown (Name server:
>c298344-a.arvada1.home.com: host not found)
>...
Yep, you can't just use random machines as mail servers; they need to
have an MX record in the DNS. Also, many people will reject mail coming
from what looks like a dial-up IP address, because spammers often send
mail this way. It's better to use your ISP's facilities, and a local
mail server will let you set up a "smarthost" pointing to your ISP where
outgoing mail can go.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"... and by God I *KNOW* what this network is for, and you can't have
it." - Russ Allbery (http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/writing/rant.html)
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From: "Thomas Heppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Troubble installing RAID1
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 11:24:14 +0200
Hello,
I have problems configuring some RAID1 device - I hope someone can
help me with that problem:
I am using Suse Linux 7.0 and the partition table looks like:
Disk /dev/sda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1115 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 14 77 514080 82 Linux swap
/dev/sda3 78 339 2104515 83 Linux
/dev/sda4 340 1115 6233220 83 Linux
I have created following raid-configuration in /etc/raidtab:
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level 1
nr-raid-disks 2
nr-spare-disks 0
chunk-size 4
persistent-superblock 1
device /dev/sda3
raid-disk 0
device /dev/sdb3
raid-disk 1
After this, I have tried the following command:
# mkraid /dev/md0
handling MD device /dev/md0
analyzing super-block
disk 0: /dev/sda3, 2104515kB, raid superblock at 2104448kB
disk 1: /dev/sdb3, 2104515kB, raid superblock at 2104448kB
mkraid: aborted, see the syslog and /proc/mdstat for potential clues.
You can see that ugly result above? Syslog contains ... NOTHING and
/proc/mdstat looks like
# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [1 linear] [2 raid0] [3 raid1] [4 raid5]
read_ahead 120 sectors
md0 : inactive
md1 : inactive
md2 : inactive
md3 : inactive
What is wrong here? has someone experiences with RAID & Suse??
Thanks a lot for any help/hint!
Br
Thomas
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From: Ben Goble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Problems
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:56:37 -0600
Power Quest's PartitionMagic http://www.powerquest.com
Daniel Russel wrote:
>
> I have a scsi hard drive with the first 10 gigs or so taken up by my C:
> partition and my partition contain my windows 2000 setup. I would like to
> get dual boot working without killing my 2k partition, but have been having
> problems. LILO from the redhat 6.2 installation failed to work (I presume
> since I could not put the root partition within the fist 1024 cylinders).
> BootMagic crashes when I try to run it from its floppy disks and parted will
> not find my hard drive when I boot using the standard parted boot floppy. As
> a result I can't figure out a way to resize my C partiton to put the root
> near the beginning of the drive. Does anyone have any ideas how to get
> around these problems? Thanks.
> --Daniel Russel
--
Ben Goble Lakewood, Colorado USA
bgoble at qwest.net
A Stranger and a Pilgrim on Earth
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From: Douglas Bollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0.1
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:41:07 -0400
Mick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I just recently installed XFree86 4.0.1 via tag.gz files since I am unable
> to usr the rpms (I have RH6.2 and rpm only works for v3).
>
> During installation I replied "n" to replace config files. Install went ok,
> but gave problems such as running xf86cfg gives error:
>
> Widget work has zero length and/or height? and it aborts!.
Hmmm, I had good luck just installing Xfree86 4.0.1 right over the
default RH 6.2 install. With the binaries, I just answered [y] when
prompted, or went with the defaults.
Also, I had good luck install XFree 4.0.1 from the sources right
over the default RH 6.2 Xfree installation. You have to make sure
to generate a new X86Config file, that's all.
Doug
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From: "bluster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to reclaim disk partitions from other OS?
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:36:07 -0400
Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indeed, and fdisk states this explicitely : reboot!
>
> after that the partition table is re-read and all should function again.
> Messing with your partitiontable is one of the few things that still
> require a good reboot.
>
> Eric
Ehem, I AM sorry, YOU ARE 100% CORRECT. Looking a little further
in the fdisk man page I found this:
<snip>
There are several *fdisk programs around. Each has its
problems and strengths. Try them in the order cfdisk,
fdisk, sfdisk. (Indeed, cfdisk is a beautiful program
that has strict requirements on the partition tables it
accepts, and produces high quality partition tables. Use
it if you can. fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy
things - usually it happens to produce reasonable results.
<snip>
which led me to the cfdisk (v2.10f) man page which says:
<snip>
Write partition table to disk (must enter an upper
case W). Since this might destroy data on the
disk, you must either confirm or deny the write by
entering `yes' or `no'. If you enter `yes', cfdisk
will write the partition table to disk and the tell
the kernel to re-read the partition table from the
disk. The re-reading of the partition table works
is most cases, but I have seen it fail. Don't
panic. It will be correct after you reboot the
system. In all cases, I still recommend rebooting
the system--just to be safe.
<snip>
Thank you for the accurate information :)
Always reboot after using fdisk/cfdisk, oh well I thought
that was one more way linux beat MS OS's, I guess NOT.
Sorry,
Bluster
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From: "Mick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree86 4.0.1
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:49:07 -0700
Doug
Thats great news. Did you install the binaries via tar.gz files? I managed
to install it also, but the gnome and Xwindows wont run properly as it
replaces all config files. Can you advise which are the important files that
must be edited for it to work properly? I only edited the
/etc/X11/XF86Config and /etc/X11/fs/config files.
BTW did you also install the optional tar.gz files (I did).
Also, how do you "fool" of fix Linux RH6.2 so that when you install other
apps/rps that require XFree 4.0.1 recognises that it is installed. Since the
other posting told me that installing via binaries will not update the RPM
installed version number.
Thanks
Douglas Bollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > I just recently installed XFree86 4.0.1 via tag.gz files since I am
unable
> > to usr the rpms (I have RH6.2 and rpm only works for v3).
> >
> > During installation I replied "n" to replace config files. Install went
ok,
> > but gave problems such as running xf86cfg gives error:
> >
> > Widget work has zero length and/or height? and it aborts!.
>
> Hmmm, I had good luck just installing Xfree86 4.0.1 right over the
> default RH 6.2 install. With the binaries, I just answered [y] when
> prompted, or went with the defaults.
>
> Also, I had good luck install XFree 4.0.1 from the sources right
> over the default RH 6.2 Xfree installation. You have to make sure
> to generate a new X86Config file, that's all.
>
> Doug
>
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From: "Philo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Going to try Linux
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:46:12 -0500
if you don;t want to wipe out your windows...which i suggest you keep.
you should use a utility such as partition magic (or linux usually has the
fips utility on the cd)
for example if your disk has just a c: drive you will need to also create a
D: drive which will be reserved for linux (and the D designation wiped out)
if you use dos fdisk to do it...it will destroy all your data... that is why
i suggested partition magic.
once you get to the linux install...it will further partition...
but be sure you do not wipe out your windows C: partition.
--
Philo
website: www.plazaearth.com/philo
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From: Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: e-mail routing
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:50:09 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Currently I just use netscape's e-mail to connect to my ISP's mail server via
> pop/smtp.
>
> Is it possible for linux to retrieve e-mail from a POP server and then have it
> available locally for any e-mail client I want to use? Netscape's e-mail
> client is really deficient.
>
> My machine's name is C298344-A.arvada1.home.com, but sending e-mail to my
> machine causes delivery problems; I think it is because the name isn't
> registered as an e-mail server. The error I get is:
> ...
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Host unknown (Name server: c298344-a.arva
> da1.home.com: host not found)
> ...
I'm not sure about the error you get, but on my RedHat 6.1 box, I use "fetchpop", a
far simpler and lighter alternative to fetchmail. It pulls my mail into
/var/spool/mail/ed, and I use Pine to retrieve it. Pine appends it to the file
/home/ed/mbox . I then can use regular SMTP direct from Pine. Mutt can fetch from
POP servers itself, but relies on Sendmail to relay out. Netscape can be set up to
read from your /var/spool/mail directory, but I found it clumsy. Also, my linuxconf
insisted on resetting the permissions that had to be changed for Netscape's sake.
Ed
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From: "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.windows.x,linux.dev.x11,linux.redhat.install
Subject: XFree86 font path questions
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:04:18 -0500
Linux RedHat 7
XFree86 4.0.1 (d/l yesterday)
PII 433mHz
Xwindows will not start due to
default font path being unix/:7100
Actual fonts reside in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/
local/
misc/
latin2/
cyrillic/
75dpi/
100dpi/
Speedo/
and so on,....
I am a complete Linux newbie working from command line only.
Please tell me exactly what my font path should read in
XFree86Config
and if I need to make other changes to make it work.
I guess I do not understand the font server idea.
Making the path point to a font directory got me nowhere ;-)
Please be very step by step, since I have spent a week now
trying to get past the command line interface with no success.
I have beaten the monitor modes thing and graphics driver thing
and on and on. I am learning a great deal quickly, considering I
have only documentation provided by the Linux docs themselves -
which are waaay too technical for most people to understand, I
would guess - and what I have d/l by ftp.
I am going slightly nuts at this point.
Thank you,
Jon - I love Jesus Christ
http://www.jonsplace.org/
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