Linux-Setup Digest #920, Volume #20 Tue, 27 Mar 01 01:13:10 EST
Contents:
cannot install linux on Micron Powerdigm Xsu ("Rich")
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Chad Everett)
Question about RPM's ... (KCmaniac)
Re: Question about RPM's ... (H.Bruijn)
Re: Question about RPM's ... (KCmaniac)
VMware problem (Dan)
Re: Question about RPM's ... (H.Bruijn)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Tim Hanson)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Tim Hanson)
Re: Why is "S" respawing? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Why is "S" respawing? (Bill Unruh)
Re: How to create a read-only root partition (Bill Unruh)
Re: undefined symbol after upgrade rpm ("H. van Niekerk")
Lilo won't boot on Maxtor 54098H8 (40GB) ("Dirk Kissing")
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Ed Blackman)
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Reply-To: "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cannot install linux on Micron Powerdigm Xsu
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:04:36 -0700
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I have been unsuccessful in installing debian,
slackware and SuSE distributions on a Micron
Powerdigm Xsu, dual cpu system. Has anybody
out there been successful doing an install on this
computer? The failures are different with each
distribution, I think due to the installers used by
each.
Here is my setup:
Dual 333 MHz Pentium II
Adaptec AHA 2940 U/UW SCSI controller
5 hard disks attached (2 connected to wide bus)
CDROM attached
CD writer attached
Seagate TRAVAN tape attached
AWE 64 sound card
3COM 3C905-TX ethernet card
Linksys Etherfast 10/100 ethernet card
512 MB SDRAM
Diamond Fire GL Pro 1000 graphics card w/8MB
3.5" generic floppy
The installation that gets the furthest is a Debian
install that can't mount the SCSI CRDOM on
/dev/scd0 (says it isn't a block device).
SuSE hangs at the hardware check after the initial
kernel boots and their installation program starts.
all installs require the following boot arguments:
linux ide0=autotune ide1=autotune
Any ideas would be appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 03:13:28 GMT
On 27 Mar 2001 02:58:38 GMT, Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:05:38 GMT, Chad Everett staggered into the Black
>Sun and said:
>>On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:57:07 GMT, Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>"Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>> weird filesystem layout (come on,
>>>> init files in /sbin?!)
>>>
>>>Hmm, I don't recall this in 7.1. The layout was different from
>>>RedHat and RedHat clones, but not unusual or confusing. Init files
>>>could be found under the /etc hierarchy (perhaps via links?).
>>
>>Nope. In SuSE 7.1 all init scripts are in /etc/init.d and turned
>>on or off and configured in /etc/rc.config. Don't see any init
>>scripts in /sbin on my SuSE 7.1
>
>FWIW, the original rationale for the scripts being in /sbin/init.d/ was
>that the FHS said "executables do not belong in /etc." However, SuSE
>6.1 .. 7.0 all have symlinks pointing to /sbin/init.d/ from /etc/rc.d/.
>I prefer having them in /sbin/init.d/ instead of in /etc/rc.d/init.d/
>because the /sbin/ path has fewer characters in it, making it quicker to
>type on the command line. But it's really a matter of personal
>preference.
>
They're all in /etc/init.d, not /etc/rc.d/init.d. One less character
than /sbin/init.d !
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From: KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question about RPM's ...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:22:00 -0500
At the sites that provide all those Red Hat packages there are many that
include the word "-devel-" within their names. I was hoping someone out
there could tell me what these particular packages are for. Thanks.
RLH
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Question about RPM's ...
Date: 27 Mar 2001 03:43:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:22:00 -0500, KCmaniac allegedly wrote:
>At the sites that provide all those Red Hat packages there are many that
>include the word "-devel-" within their names. I was hoping someone out
>there could tell me what these particular packages are for. Thanks.
They are development packages. They are not required for those who only
install software from precompiled packages, but only needed when you
want to compile other software from source. So if you'd want to compile
a program which uses the Qt GUI toolkit you'r need the package
qt-devel-2.2.0-0.5.beta2.i386.rpm as that contains all that you need.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands
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From: KCmaniac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about RPM's ...
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:49:59 -0500
"H.Bruijn" wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:22:00 -0500, KCmaniac allegedly wrote:
> >At the sites that provide all those Red Hat packages there are many that
> >include the word "-devel-" within their names. I was hoping someone out
> >there could tell me what these particular packages are for. Thanks.
>
> They are development packages. They are not required for those who only
> install software from precompiled packages, but only needed when you
> want to compile other software from source. So if you'd want to compile
> a program which uses the Qt GUI toolkit you'r need the package
> qt-devel-2.2.0-0.5.beta2.i386.rpm as that contains all that you need.
>
Great. Thank you, H.Bruijn. Let me see if I got this right. You only need
these packages if you want to "develop" your own software for the particular
Red Hat function? There is a package amongst the many XFree86 packages
called "XFree86-devel-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm". So I only need this package if I
plan to compile my own software into the XFree86 function? Is that right?
RLH
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:55:25 -0500
From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VMware problem
hi all,
I run redhat 7.0 on SMP, and I'm having some sort of trouble with the
vmware-config.pl working with my autoconf.h, I was told that I can
comment out few lines with SMP on it in vmware-config.pl, but I forgot
what those lines are.
Can anyone help?
-dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Question about RPM's ...
Date: 27 Mar 2001 04:41:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:49:59 -0500, KCmaniac allegedly wrote:
>"H.Bruijn" wrote:
>
>> [What are *devel* packages?]
>> They are development packages. They are not required for those who only
>> install software from precompiled packages, but only needed when you
>> want to compile other software from source. So if you'd want to compile
>> a program which uses the Qt GUI toolkit you'r need the package
>> qt-devel-2.2.0-0.5.beta2.i386.rpm as that contains all that you need.
>>
>
>Great. Thank you, H.Bruijn. Let me see if I got this right. You only need
>these packages if you want to "develop" your own software for the particular
>Red Hat function? There is a package amongst the many XFree86 packages
>called "XFree86-devel-4.0.1-1.i386.rpm". So I only need this package if I
>plan to compile my own software into the XFree86 function? Is that right?
Yes indeed. When you need to compile fi the latest driver for your video
card, and RedHat has not yet released that driver in rpm format, you
most likley will need the development files included in that package.
Now I'm not much of a programmer, but IIRC you need the header files to
be able to link to the libraries you use when compiling software. Those
headers aren't included in the normal library packages, because they
aren't needed anymore once the program has been compiled.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:41:17 -0800
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Darin Johnson wrote:
>
> "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Things to dislike SuSE for: extremely KDE-centric (as KDE is a mostly
> > German project this is not surprising),
>
> This is a plus, when compared to the GNOME-centric distributions :-)
That's a minus for me too. SuSE was pretty much agnostic, but no more.
> > weird filesystem layout (come on,
> > init files in /sbin?!)
>
> Hmm, I don't recall this in 7.1. The layout was different from
> RedHat and RedHat clones, but not unusual or confusing. Init files
> could be found under the /etc hierarchy (perhaps via links?).
>
> > and an uncompatible rpm packaging style.
>
> Didn't seem that incompatible. The thing some people disliked was
> not using the RedHat package categories and hierarchies. But such
> was available in SuSE 7.1.
>
> Plusses to SuSE: Better KDE support; easier installation; more
> packages; many system configuration options put into a single file and
> a tool to modify; lots of good admin and configuration tools, which
> are easy to find in the GUI, as compared to RedHat.
--
The only really good place to buy lumber is at a store where the lumber
has already been cut and attached together in the form of furniture,
finished, and put inside boxes.
-- Dave Barry, "The Taming of the Screw"
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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:43:38 -0800
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:05:38 GMT, Chad Everett staggered into the Black
> Sun and said:
> >On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:57:07 GMT, Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>"Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >>> weird filesystem layout (come on,
> >>> init files in /sbin?!)
> >>
> >>Hmm, I don't recall this in 7.1. The layout was different from
> >>RedHat and RedHat clones, but not unusual or confusing. Init files
> >>could be found under the /etc hierarchy (perhaps via links?).
> >
> >Nope. In SuSE 7.1 all init scripts are in /etc/init.d and turned
> >on or off and configured in /etc/rc.config. Don't see any init
> >scripts in /sbin on my SuSE 7.1
>
> FWIW, the original rationale for the scripts being in /sbin/init.d/ was
> that the FHS said "executables do not belong in /etc." However, SuSE
> 6.1 .. 7.0 all have symlinks pointing to /sbin/init.d/ from /etc/rc.d/.
> I prefer having them in /sbin/init.d/ instead of in /etc/rc.d/init.d/
> because the /sbin/ path has fewer characters in it, making it quicker to
> type on the command line. But it's really a matter of personal
> preference.
I'll bet the Windows Weenies are really glazing over here. :-)
> The "incompatible RPM layout" has only caused me problems when
> trying to install large things like GNOME or KDE2 from non-SuSE RPMs.
> This is not a particularly good thing; I think all the folks who make
> distros that use RPM should get together and decide on a standard naming
> convention/filesystem layout, but that's never gonna happen :-[ .
> Hmmph, long live tarballs....
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
> http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
> -----------------------------/ I hit a seg fault....
--
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has already been cut and attached together in the form of furniture,
finished, and put inside boxes.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Why is "S" respawing?
Date: 27 Mar 2001 04:53:26 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rick Griffiths
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]The text says "Usage /sbin/getty [" and then the help text you would
]get by issing the "/sbin/getty/ command with no arguments. But I get
]this multiple times, then an error line that says
]INIT Id "S" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
Open /etc/inittab and look for the line starting with S:
(or was there a number after that S) you have a badly formed getty
command on that line.
But you should not be using getty on a serial line, you should use
mgetty. (or if your are not using serial lines, just comment out that
line completely -- put a # at the beginning.)
]So something is wrong with getty, and it has to do with Init. I've read
No, something is wring with inittab and it has to do with your
/sbin/getty command.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Why is "S" respawing?
Date: 27 Mar 2001 04:53:26 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Rick Griffiths
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]The text says "Usage /sbin/getty [" and then the help text you would
]get by issing the "/sbin/getty/ command with no arguments. But I get
]this multiple times, then an error line that says
]INIT Id "S" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
Open /etc/inittab and look for the line starting with S:
(or was there a number after that S) you have a badly formed getty
command on that line.
But you should not be using getty on a serial line, you should use
mgetty. (or if your are not using serial lines, just comment out that
line completely -- put a # at the beginning.)
]So something is wrong with getty, and it has to do with Init. I've read
No, something is wring with inittab and it has to do with your
/sbin/getty command.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: How to create a read-only root partition
Date: 27 Mar 2001 05:00:18 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Malcolm
Cifuentes) writes:
]Hi all,
] I wish to install RH 6.2 on a 160 MB disk.
] The system has no swap and I require it to run at runlevel 3.
] I wish to allow the system to be powered off with out having to shut it
] down. In order to achieve this, I would like all the partitions on the
] disk to be mounted read-only.
] I have looked for some type of FAQ on how to do this and found nothing:(
] My questions:
] 1. Is it possible to have the whole disk mounted as read-only
] 2. Is it possible to have '/boot', '/' mounted as read-only
]Any clues appreciated,
Well, the problem is that various log files need to write. And the /tmp
file needs to be written to. So you could make /var and /tmp be
writeable and the rest not. You could try to shut off all logging (do
not run syslogd or anything else which logs) but I suspect that there
are still programs which need to write to /var/or /tmp.
As fat as I know these are the key places where things are written to.
]thanks
]mal
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From: "H. van Niekerk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: undefined symbol after upgrade rpm
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:08:05 +0200
Matt Ng wrote:
> >>/usr/lib/librpm.so.0: undefined symbol: fdio
> >>
> >>How come and how to solve?
> > gnorpm is not linked against rpm-4.0.2. It is linked against rpm-3.x.
> > Solution: relink with rpm-4.0.2 or recompile gnorpm.
>
> You can also upgrade gnorpm to version 0.96 and that works for me.
Hi,
Thanks for the answer, but where do I find version 0.96? In the RH updates
list the latest version is 0.95..
Huub
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From: "Dirk Kissing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux,nl.comp.os.linux.installatie,nl.comp.os.linux.overig
Subject: Lilo won't boot on Maxtor 54098H8 (40GB)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:14:10 +0200
Hi,
I'm going insane :-(
All i see when booting is LI
Linux is installed on /dev/hdb. (within 1024 boundery)
It uses the whole disk and Lilo is written to the MBR.
I tried using the Cylinders, Heads, Sectors params of Lilo, but nothing
works :-((
BIOS says CSH: 4982,63,255. Linux also sees this, but not working.......
Anyone pleaseeeeeeeee??
Tnx,
Dirk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Blackman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:37:00 -0000
On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 20:17:18 -0000, Scott Alfter wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>IE doesn't work properly with www.microsoft.com! Visit it
>>with IE, and much of the time it only renders the banner!
>
>You must have a badly-damaged IE install or a really old (<3.0) version of
>IE for it to be doing that. About the only time I run into problems with
>www.microsoft.com is when I've reinstalled WinNT on some old box and need to
>patch/update it, and in that case, IE can be downloaded on another machine
>and burned to CD-R so it can be installed. Once that's done and the
>latest/greatest version is installed, everything else goes pretty smoothly.
I've always thought that was funny: you can't access Microsoft's site
with a web browser (IE 2) that comes as the default on a Microsoft
operating system (NT4). I know that IE 2 was pretty horrible, but you
would think that they'd at least put up a redirect to a basic, no
frills page from which you could download a more recent version. No,
you have to download IE *on another machine* and copy it across
somehow.
Actually, I don't *always* think it's funny: when I'm reloading an NT4
machine from scratch, it's not very funny at all.
Ed
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