Linux-Setup Digest #922, Volume #19              Sat, 28 Oct 00 07:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Fresh install of win2K and several linux flavors ("Ben Ginsberg")
  Re: Setup Storm Linux (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
  Proftpd (Yokozuna)
  Re: kde2 on Mandrake 7.1 - minor glitches (Eric Laffoon)
  Re: Partition Problems ("Daniel Russel")
  Re: Can't get Net to work with Linux!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Micro$oft hack attack (Batchman)
  Re: Partition Problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: dhcp from Roadrunner CAble ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: What is Sound Blaster AudioPCI ? (Marc D. Williams)
  2.4-pre6/8 crashes, USB/webcam/video4linux problem? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: "Ben Ginsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fresh install of win2K and several linux flavors
Date: 28 Oct 2000 06:29:25 GMT

I am sorry for such a long question; if you want to address just a specific
numbered question, or a specific lettered topic, please feel free to take a
stab at it.  Or, if there is some place that is a good resource for this
stuff, please point me at it.

INTRO
What is the best way to set up a dual-boot between Windows 2000 and several
versions of Linux?  I have a 20GB drive and know I want a w2k partition
(preferably ntfs), a shared data partition, and then several linux
partitions (Debian, but also perhaps Red Hat, Mandrake & SuSe).

TOPICS
Specifically, I am curious about recommended
(A) partitions (primary vs. extended/logical)
(B) file systems (for shared data, for linux os's, for any cross-linux
shared mounts)
(C) boot loaders (should I cascade NTLDR to LILO?)

SPECIFICS
My intuition tells me to do this:
Create a small primary DOS partition hda1, for NTLDR and maybe DOS/Linux
rescue. (Size?)
Create a primary NTFS partition hda2, & install Win2K; this will plop NTLDR
on hda1.
Create a primary (filesystem?) partition hda3, for LILO and some flavor of
Linux.
Create an extended partition hda4, with a logical partition hda5 for shared
data among all OS's.
Create additional logical partitions for other parts of Linux.
Questions
1. Can I create other partitions outside the three primary and one extended?
2. Can Linux work okay inside logical partitions?
3. What's a good filesystem choice for the shared filesystem? (FAT seems
pretty wasteful.)
4. What's a good way to configure the Linux partitions?  (Just one per
flavor?)
5. Can I create a common partition for, say, /usr, for use by each of the
different versions of Linux?  [Is there a common part of the Unix file tree
structure for which all data would be version-independent?]
6. Should I even try to share a partition among all the linux versions?
(Would it be /usr?)
7. Can I share the swap file (and should this be one or two times the 128M
of system memory)?

Many thanks,
Ben Ginsberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
Subject: Re: Setup Storm Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:57:41 -0500

I had the same problem when I switched to ADSL because I wasn't using the name
of the IP address/name for the ADSL server, I was still using the one that I
had for my dialup connection. Also, I had to change the version of pppd I was
using to 2.4.0b4. It worked with rp-pppoe-2.2 OK. If you want download links
for either package see http://www.escape.ca/~wyatt/adsl.htm.

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:01:42 +0700, Michael Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Here I was, minding my own business, and wouldn't you know it? Jesper
>> Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> just had to go and say:
>> 
>>>I'll take your advices and read a lot about Linux before I try to set it
>>>up again.
>> 
>>      I'd still keep it around.  The GUI is mainly just an interface to the
>> command prompt, much like Win3.x was.  You should still have
>> full-function access to the text-based ftp, email, telnet, usenet, and
>> web clients, networking, SQL, and tons of other stuff that's well-worth
>> looking into. You'll be using most of it anyway, or their GUI
>> versions/front-ends, even after you get the GUI up and running. <grins>
>> 
>> --               Michael V. Ferranti [blades&inreach*com]
>> Warning: The Surgeon General has deemed that excessive displays of
>> warning labels and public service announcements produce stress and
>> shortens lives.
>
>After reading my post regarding doing some research, I did not mean to
>imply that a person should not experiment.  If I came across that way,
>apologies.  I still believe to reach a point of understanding with Linux,
>that a bit of research and testing/experimentation will come in handy.
>Let me revise my earlier statement a bit.  There are difficult things to
>get setup under linux.  I believe that running X is one of them.  You
>have to know several variables or know that what the graphical setup tool
>is telling you is correct.  In several instances, using redhat, the
>Xconfigurator tool reported errorneous values for a system I have with a
>SiS card (I know, SiS... go figure :) ).  But the main point I wish to
>make is that one can learn through reading and research and one can also
>take a good path by applying that with good, old fashioned
>experimentation.  I still think reading a lot about Linux either in
>printed material or online can save a lot of grief later on.  
>
>I still agonize over setting up X. I admit to being an X junkie.  I love
>having several window managers running on my debian system.  So I tend to
>try and retry and retry X configurations.
>
>The Linux online community is rich with technical data on how to do
>things.  I am still amazed at googling along with the level of detail I
>can find on various topics.
>
>-- 
>Michael Perry           
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>------------------

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From: Yokozuna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Proftpd
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 06:59:53 GMT

Almost eveything works fine except that .htaccess can not be listed
or downloaded.  Uploading works fine.

Also I made 2 guest accounts but the login message still says these
these are anonymous:  230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong ?

This is my proftpd.conf file:

ServerName                      " FTP Service"
ServerType                      standalone
DefaultServer                   on

Port                            21

Umask                           022

MaxInstances                    30

User                            nobody
Group                           nogroup

<Anonymous /home/user1>
User user1
Group user1
UserAlias ftp user1
AnonRequirePassword on
<Directory *>
<Limit READ WRITE RMD DELE MKD>
AllowAll
</Limit>
<Limit LOGIN>
DenyAll
Allow from ip1
</Limit>
AllowOverwrite on
</Directory>
</Anonymous>

<Anonymous /home/user2>
User user2
Group user2
UserAlias ftp user2
AnonRequirePassword on
<Directory *>
<Limit READ WRITE RMD DELE MKD>
AllowAll
</Limit>
<Limit LOGIN>
DenyAll
Allow from ip2
</Limit>
AllowOverwrite on
</Directory>
</Anonymous>



-- 
Peter
Resultaat van m'n kabelverbinding bij bART/UPC
http://yokozuna.op.het.net/bij-bART/live.html

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From: Eric Laffoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: kde2 on Mandrake 7.1 - minor glitches
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:56:09 -0700

D. D. Brierton wrote:

> In article <8tba7l$tpj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "D. D. Brierton"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 1. In order to install kdebase I had to install mandrake_desk and now
> >    the only option available in either kdm or gdm is kde. I no longer
> >    have the option of starting GNOME, WindowMaker, BlackBox,
> >    Enlightenment, etc. This is a big problem for me. I use GNOME as my
> >    regular desktop---kde is something I use only about one third of
> >    the time in fact, although with kde2 that may change. I also fairly
> >    regularly start a vanilla X session with just Blackbox, or bask in
> >    the visual glory that is WindowMaker. Can anyone offer any advice
> >    as to what I need to tweak or install to get kdm and gdm back to
> >    offering the full range of installed options?
> 
> I have solved this problem. It seems that the installation of one of the
> packages (mandrake_desk?) deleted /etc/X11/window-managers. Thankfully I
> had a backup, restored it, moved /etc/X11/wmsession.d/, and ran
> convertsession and it built all the correct entries in
> /etc/X11/wmsession.d/. Now both kdm and gdm work. However, it was
> definitely not me who removed /etc/X11/window-managers, so I think that
> this should be looked into before 7.2 goes final.

Looked into? That's rich! Mdk 7.2 does not use /etc/X11/window-managers! 
However hearing that it deleted it is... well it sucks. Since it doesn't 
use it why would it delete if if not to make it difficult to use on mdk 7.1?
> 
> Any help with the kdemultimedia problem would be a big help.
> 
It works great on mine, but then I knew I could expect difficulties from 
the rpms (once I looked at the 7.2 beta) and opted to compile? What is the 
problem?

BTW I hope you're taking notes. if you get this install working you should 
document it. God knows it's got challenges... to my mind way more than just 
compiling it.
-- 
Eric Laffoon
A member of the Quanta+ Web development team
http://quanta.sourceforge.net

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From: "Daniel Russel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Problems
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:59:26 -0700

Oops, I meant Partition Magic (not boot magic) crashes when I try to run it
from its boot floppy and it does not seem to run from within windows2k.

"Ben Goble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Power Quest's PartitionMagic http://www.powerquest.com
>
> Daniel Russel wrote:
> >
> > I have a scsi hard drive with the first 10 gigs or so taken up by my C:
> > partition and my partition contain my windows 2000 setup. I would like
to
> > get dual boot working without killing my 2k partition, but have been
having
> > problems. LILO from the redhat 6.2 installation failed to work (I
presume
> > since I could not put the root partition within the fist 1024
cylinders).
> > BootMagic crashes when I try to run it from its floppy disks and parted
will
> > not find my hard drive when I boot using the standard parted boot
floppy. As
> > a result I can't figure out a way to resize my C partiton to put the
root
> > near the beginning of the drive. Does anyone have any ideas how to get
> > around these problems? Thanks.
> >                 --Daniel Russel
>
> --
> Ben Goble  Lakewood, Colorado  USA
> bgoble at qwest.net
> A Stranger and a Pilgrim on Earth



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't get Net to work with Linux!!!
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:10:42 GMT

Though I'm not a Turbolinux user, hope this helps...

In article <8tdovn$8s1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Andre Liem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>     Hi I was having many problems trying to get Linux hooked up with
my DSL
> net connection.  I'm running Turbolinux workstation 6.0 and haven't
been
> successful despite the many things I've tried.  I have been trying to
> configure turbonetcfg but I can't even get the eth0 to be detected.
>
> -My ISP is running a Dynamic IP type server so I should choose DHCP?

Yes.

> -What IP, nameserver etc.. values should I put then into the
turbonetcfg
> program?

Basically, the DHCP server from yr ISP will supply the IP and DNS info.

> -I have my gateway IP, should I get more IP numbers, which ones?   I'm
> running windows 98, should I obtain the correct info through
"winipcfg"?

If yr just running a workstation using a single connection, then the
gateway should be set by default. You can verify this by typing "netstat
-nr" or "route". "netstat" shows yr pc default gw as "0.0.0.0" while
"route" gives additional info on the line that says "default". On this
line, the gateway you're connected to is automatically supplied by yr
ISP. So again, u don't need to supply yr own.

> -HOW do I get my network card to be detected?  The network diagnostic
shows
> it fails to detect.  How do I go about installing the correct
modules?  What
> commands?
>

First check whether yr NIC is supported on the website. If so, and if y
r NIC is not built-in on the motherboard, then things should be
simplier.
Type "ifconfig" to see if its detected. If u see something like eth0 or
le0, then just enable if by typing "ifconfig eth0 up". Check again.
Also u will need the dhcp client packages. See if u could locate them on
yr .../bin directory or u'll hv to install them manually. On my Mandrake
box, it is "dhcpcd-...". Run it and if all works fine, u should see the
DHCP addr obtained fr yr ISP (type "ifconfig", look for eth0, 2nd line
that says "inet addr").

In a nutshell, "dhcpcd" is analogous to "winipcfg" of Win.
Note: u'll need to remove any .pid file that was created by dhcpcd and
then re-run.

If all this doens't work, check out www.sourceforge.net. for help or
simply re-install Linux.

> -And lastly, what do I do with the lo?  This also doesn't work right
now
> either.  I'm also running on a LAN if that matters.
>

lo is the default loop-back interface. It is always there by default.

> Some detailed steps on doing this would be greatly appreciated as I
have
> been using turbolinux offline for the past months, so basically I have
been
> using windows :(.  Ideally steps that could show me how to get the
correct
> info from windows and how to use them to get Linux to work would be
the most
> useful.  Thanks for any help. I really want to use Linux instead of
windows
> right now but this bites not being able to use the net...
>
>


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From: Batchman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Micro$oft hack attack
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 04:31:53 -0500


Microsoft recently had a hacker attack of its own.
Sources say some code of their upcoming projects
was viewed.  The thing that bothers Bill Gates the
most about it is that he's afraid the hackers will
fix the bugs and release a version of Windows that
actually works.

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Partition Problems
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:31:04 GMT

U'r right. Lilo needs to sit within 1024 cyl. Not sure if this is
relative addr space problem. I got round this by using "BootMagic".

1) create a /boot mount pt during Linux installation
2) record the partition id, e.g. /dev/hda5 or /dev/scd4.
3) During the installation, u'll need to configure Linux to boot from
this partition id instead of the usual MBR or 1st sect of the 2nd HDD...
4) Complete the rest of the installation and reboot into Win
5) Add the Linux /boot partition into the boot menu.
6) On rebooting, BootMagic should come up first. Select Linux, and Lilo
will pop up next. Select "linux" from the list of bootable images, and
enjoy!

On my laptop, the /boot partition is at least 3Gigs behind my Win98
partition. To play safe, I kept the /boot and / partitions within 1024
cyl of each other.

In article <8te10t$t85$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Daniel Russel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oops, I meant Partition Magic (not boot magic) crashes when I try to
run it
> from its boot floppy and it does not seem to run from within
windows2k.
>
> "Ben Goble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Power Quest's PartitionMagic http://www.powerquest.com
> >
> > Daniel Russel wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a scsi hard drive with the first 10 gigs or so taken up by
my C:
> > > partition and my partition contain my windows 2000 setup. I would
like
> to
> > > get dual boot working without killing my 2k partition, but have
been
> having
> > > problems. LILO from the redhat 6.2 installation failed to work (I
> presume
> > > since I could not put the root partition within the fist 1024
> cylinders).
> > > BootMagic crashes when I try to run it from its floppy disks and
parted
> will
> > > not find my hard drive when I boot using the standard parted boot
> floppy. As
> > > a result I can't figure out a way to resize my C partiton to put
the
> root
> > > near the beginning of the drive. Does anyone have any ideas how to
get
> > > around these problems? Thanks.
> > >                 --Daniel Russel
> >
> > --
> > Ben Goble  Lakewood, Colorado  USA
> > bgoble at qwest.net
> > A Stranger and a Pilgrim on Earth
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dhcp from Roadrunner CAble
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:44:17 GMT

Hi Heath,
pls see my contrib to other threads on the deja.com discussion forum.

To make things simple, pls make sure the Network Interface Card is
supported by yr ver of Linux. Best bet is to buy Intel cards. Fyi, I'm
using a 3Com905 10/100BT NIC.


In article <FFsK5.112$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "Heath Ivie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> help,
>  i cant get my linux to get my ip info from the San Diego Roadrunner
cable
> service and they dont support linux.  I ahve tried all of the linux
.com
> crap and it doesnt work
> heath
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc D. Williams)
Subject: Re: What is Sound Blaster AudioPCI ?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:20:06 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:07:00 GMT, Gennady Agranov wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I am trying to get my sound card
>
>Creative Sound Blaster AudioPCI (16 bit)
>
>to work ...
>
>So far I was not able to find a correct driver/parameters for this card
>:(
>
The AudioPCI uses either the es1370 or es1371 drivers depending
on the age/chipset of it. Try one of those and see what happens.
There's some info in the kernel source's Documentation/sound/ directory.

Not much in the way of parameters for them. Take a look at
es1370.c/es1371.c in drivers/sound/ and grep/search for
PARM (or MODULE_PARM) for some parameter ideas.

I use the ALSA drivers for my AudioPCI. So far so good.


-- 
>>ANIME SENSHI<<

Marc D. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/ -- DOS Internet & Tandy 1000
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Platform/8269/ -- Win3.x Makeover

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: 2.4-pre6/8 crashes, USB/webcam/video4linux problem?
Date: 28 Oct 2000 10:38:52 GMT

Hi folks! I recently bought a Philips Vesta Pro USB webcam. I 
downloaded the drivers (kernel modules) for Linux from
www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/
but I get only one picture from the cam, then Linux crashes(freezes) 
totally. (sorry for all the cross-posting, but I am (almost) desperate 
now...)


I have read the FAQ, searched Usenet and the web and I also just emailed
the author of the webcam driver for Linux. I thought it could be useful
to forward my email to some Linux newsgroups in case someone here knows
a solution. By the way, does anyone know when kernel 2.4-pre10 comes out? 
The driver programmer recommends using version pre6 since pre9 has buggy
USB code, but he also says that he heard pre10 has fixed the problems in
pre9. And no, I would rather not revert back to the 2.2.* kernel tree
and do backpatches... Well, here comes the email with all the info:
===========
Hi! I have recently bought a Philips Vesta Pro webcam and
I am trying to make it function under Linux (it works in
WinBloat 98). The details are below, but to summarize, I
can get one image from the cam using camstream or xawtv, then
the system freezes up totally and I have to reboot using
the reset button. I have searched the info on your site, Usenet,
the web, but cannot solve this. Maybe you can help?

My system: RedHat (6.2?), KDE, kernels 2.4-pre6 (also tried pre8
with the same result), version 2.4.0 test 6 of your webcam modules.
HW: Celeron 450A on an Abit BH6 (BX chipset) mobo, 128MB RAM,
Matrox G400 32MB with TV out. My version of XFree is the default,
i.e. not XFree 4.*, if that is important.

I modprobe videodev, audio, your usb-pwc, usb-uhci, no error 
messages.

The LED on the cam lights up when modprobing usb-uhci.

If i do a cat /dev/video, the system freezes totally.
My video device files look like this: 
==========================
[ale@hlecter /tmp]$ ls /dev/vi*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            6 Jun 13 22:54 /dev/video -> 
video0
crw-------   1 ale      root      81,   0 Jan 28  2000 /dev/video0
crw-------   1 ale      root      81,   1 Jan 28  2000 /dev/video1

===================================
lsmod listing:
[root@hlecter usb]# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
usb-pwc-5.06-p6-up    164448   0
usb-uhci               22960   0  (unused)
audio                  41088   0  (unused)
usbcore                30144   0  [usb-pwc-5.06-p6-up usb-uhci audio]
videodev                4736   1  [usb-pwc-5.06-p6-up]

===================================
caminfo output:

Detected 1 Video4Linux devices.
VideoDevice supports Framerate setting.
CVideoDevice::Open(/dev/video0, 1): using select() and using mmap(). Initial size 
(352x288)
Device node      : /dev/video0
Name of device   : Philips 680 webcam
Minimum size     : 128x96
Current size     : 352x288
Maximum size     : 640x480
CVideoDevice::Close(): last close.
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

OK, thanks in advance!

/Erik Alap��




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