Linux-Setup Digest #922, Volume #20 Tue, 27 Mar 01 05:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (GreyCloud)
Authenticate in ONE machine for some 30+ workstations? (Tony)
Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2) (Matthew Gardiner)
Re: Lilo won't boot on Maxtor 54098H8 (40GB) ("Dirk Kissing")
glibc compiling error with rpcgen and C preprocessor (Andreas Fehr)
RedHat 6.2 or 7.0 ("Buzz Lightyear")
Unhappy with FTP ("Woon")
Setting up LDAP for netscape (Joerg Ettrich)
Re: Why is "S" respawing? (Jan Just Keijser)
Re: Why is "S" respawing? (Jan Just Keijser)
Re: Lilo won't boot on Maxtor 54098H8 (40GB) ("Eric")
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 23:51:43 -0800
Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>
> Whats wrong with StarOffice? even though alot of people dish-it, it is the
> only Office Suite that is one more than one platform, and that, all of them
> are at the same level of compatibility and features. As for all the
> complaints, I use StarOffice on a regular basis, and find nothing wrong with
> it. Compared to Office 2000, I would use StarOffice any day of the week.
> Atleast there are no macro virus's for StarOffice, security holes, forced
> registration, it is very stable (unlike Office 2000). NOW, if Lotus released
> Smart Suite for Linux, I would definately buy it, as I have Lotus Smart Suite
> loaded on my other b0x (Windows 2000 Pro, Duron 850 w/ 64 MB RAM), it works
> like a dream. Its rather unfortunate that Lotus is too short sighted, as
> they would make a killing if it was made available for Linux.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
>
Aye! I've got Lotus Smart Suite also and came bundled with my IBM. Very
Good package.
The one program I really like is the Day Planner. Yes, it would be
nice... hmmmmm....
I wonder, since IBM is supporting Linux and pretty much supports Lotus
and the $2billion investments, do you suppose that that is happening???
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
> > Tim Hanson wrote:
> > >
> > > I am an enthusiastic SuSE user, although I make no money off SuSE. Add
> > > salt to taste.
> > >
> > > peter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've heard great things about the new Suse distro,
> > >
> > > That is correct. It is quite an advance and will be hard to compete
> > > against, especially for getting new users to try Linux. For me, as a
> > > user since 5.1, it is just an upgrade, although this time I bought a DVD
> > > player so the update went much faster. The books alone are worth the
> > > price.
> > >
> > > > but I was told by
> > > > someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work.
> > >
> > > There will be some differences and some similarities. Linus Torvalds
> > > has said he uses Red Hat at work (Transmeta) and SuSE at home. I don't
> > > know if that's still true or not.
> > >
> > > Generally, there will be a slight but not overpowering learning curve.
> > > Both are rpm-type systems. SuSE uses one big /etc/rc.config file. SuSE
> > > has gotten more KDE-centric over the last year, although GNOME is
> > > up-to-date and available on the disk. For myself, old dog that I am, I
> > > still use FVWM2, although I like and use a lot of the GNOME
> > > applications.
> > >
> > > I have a copy of Debian on one of my computers, which was a little more
> > > difficult.
> > >
> > > > At work
> > > > we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
> > > > the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
> > >
> > > I think both are iterations of the 2.4 kernel.
> > >
> > > SuSE's advantage is raw bang for the buck and lately add ease of
> > > installation for newbies. The Professional Edition has seven packed CDs
> > > or one DVD (all supplied). Through YaST you can add and subtract
> > > packages without worrying about dependencies and conflicts. For me that
> > > has meant the ability to just leave the DVD in the drive permanently and
> > > install things when needed. For someone with a modem connection, all
> > > those packages locally will save a _lot_ of download time.
> > >
> > > > What are the differences of these distros and versions ?
> > > >
> > > > Is there a different file structure or something different in each
> > > > distro that will mess up my learning curve ?
> > >
> > > I don't know about the other distros, but with SuSE you can get a
> > > running system going now and worry about the learning curve later.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Is the new software in mandrake 7.2 (or Suse) all that ?
> > > >
> > > > Which is faster, I've got a few older machine I would like to install
> > > > Linux on (P166/32 megs, etc) ?
> > >
> > > I don't think it matters that much. All three of these use mostly the
> > > same stuff. I think Star Office is a lost cause. :-)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > >
> > > --
> > > Show respect for age. Drink good Scotch for a change.
> > >
> > >
> > Good scotch,... yes.
> >
> > I used to have Star Office 5.1 installed, but didn't like it.
> > Sun has since taken over Star Office and it is now 5.2. I don't have it
> > but I hear its a big improvement. And Sun offers it either as a free
> > download or buy the CD. Suns' people are now in progress of
> > implementing a better interface for it as i've been told. But I can't
> > give any usability reports on it. Maybe someone else who has 5.2 can
> > relate?
--
V
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony)
Subject: Authenticate in ONE machine for some 30+ workstations?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:13:28 GMT
We have 30+ linux networked workstations and would like a way around having to
create individual accounts in each of those workstations, and having
to do the same whenever a user switched to another workstation.
Is to a way for the system to authenticate from a server, then let
the user proceed to have control of his individual work station?
Is there any sense in doing that? I mean if an account has to be
created at each individual workstation so that the proper /home/user
directories are created then I guess there wouldn't be much of an
advantage.
The idea is to be able to control all the accounts from a server but
give users the freedom to roam about the lab and use different
workstations without having an administrator create a separate account
at every workstation the user goes to.
Thanks,
-Tony
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From: Matthew Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Suse vs RH/Mandrake ? (or what's so great about 7.2)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:29:55 +1200
Well, they have Domino Server, Notes Server, and they have IBM Websphere running
on Linux using wine (that is, IBM Websphere). Even if they released a wine
version of Lotus Smart Suite (in the short term), then in the long term, they port
it properly over to Linux, you would find that more users would move to Linux,
I know one place, Australia Surf Life Saving that use Lotus Smart Suite for their
Office Suite, which would benefit from it being ported to Linux, and knowing one
of the directors there, he is quite keep to cut costs, and is open to new ideas
and concepts. Maybe this could be a new avenue Lotus should go down.
GreyCloud wrote:
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > Whats wrong with StarOffice? even though alot of people dish-it, it is the
> > only Office Suite that is one more than one platform, and that, all of them
> > are at the same level of compatibility and features. As for all the
> > complaints, I use StarOffice on a regular basis, and find nothing wrong with
> > it. Compared to Office 2000, I would use StarOffice any day of the week.
> > Atleast there are no macro virus's for StarOffice, security holes, forced
> > registration, it is very stable (unlike Office 2000). NOW, if Lotus released
> > Smart Suite for Linux, I would definately buy it, as I have Lotus Smart Suite
> > loaded on my other b0x (Windows 2000 Pro, Duron 850 w/ 64 MB RAM), it works
> > like a dream. Its rather unfortunate that Lotus is too short sighted, as
> > they would make a killing if it was made available for Linux.
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> >
>
> Aye! I've got Lotus Smart Suite also and came bundled with my IBM. Very
> Good package.
> The one program I really like is the Day Planner. Yes, it would be
> nice... hmmmmm....
> I wonder, since IBM is supporting Linux and pretty much supports Lotus
> and the $2billion investments, do you suppose that that is happening???
>
> > GreyCloud wrote:
> >
> > > Tim Hanson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am an enthusiastic SuSE user, although I make no money off SuSE. Add
> > > > salt to taste.
> > > >
> > > > peter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've heard great things about the new Suse distro,
> > > >
> > > > That is correct. It is quite an advance and will be hard to compete
> > > > against, especially for getting new users to try Linux. For me, as a
> > > > user since 5.1, it is just an upgrade, although this time I bought a DVD
> > > > player so the update went much faster. The books alone are worth the
> > > > price.
> > > >
> > > > > but I was told by
> > > > > someone that I should use the same distro that I use at work.
> > > >
> > > > There will be some differences and some similarities. Linus Torvalds
> > > > has said he uses Red Hat at work (Transmeta) and SuSE at home. I don't
> > > > know if that's still true or not.
> > > >
> > > > Generally, there will be a slight but not overpowering learning curve.
> > > > Both are rpm-type systems. SuSE uses one big /etc/rc.config file. SuSE
> > > > has gotten more KDE-centric over the last year, although GNOME is
> > > > up-to-date and available on the disk. For myself, old dog that I am, I
> > > > still use FVWM2, although I like and use a lot of the GNOME
> > > > applications.
> > > >
> > > > I have a copy of Debian on one of my computers, which was a little more
> > > > difficult.
> > > >
> > > > > At work
> > > > > we use Red Hat, at home I just setup Mandrake 7.1, but everyone says
> > > > > the new Suse distro is good and also Mandrake 7.2 is good.
> > > >
> > > > I think both are iterations of the 2.4 kernel.
> > > >
> > > > SuSE's advantage is raw bang for the buck and lately add ease of
> > > > installation for newbies. The Professional Edition has seven packed CDs
> > > > or one DVD (all supplied). Through YaST you can add and subtract
> > > > packages without worrying about dependencies and conflicts. For me that
> > > > has meant the ability to just leave the DVD in the drive permanently and
> > > > install things when needed. For someone with a modem connection, all
> > > > those packages locally will save a _lot_ of download time.
> > > >
> > > > > What are the differences of these distros and versions ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a different file structure or something different in each
> > > > > distro that will mess up my learning curve ?
> > > >
> > > > I don't know about the other distros, but with SuSE you can get a
> > > > running system going now and worry about the learning curve later.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the new software in mandrake 7.2 (or Suse) all that ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Which is faster, I've got a few older machine I would like to install
> > > > > Linux on (P166/32 megs, etc) ?
> > > >
> > > > I don't think it matters that much. All three of these use mostly the
> > > > same stuff. I think Star Office is a lost cause. :-)
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Show respect for age. Drink good Scotch for a change.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Good scotch,... yes.
> > >
> > > I used to have Star Office 5.1 installed, but didn't like it.
> > > Sun has since taken over Star Office and it is now 5.2. I don't have it
> > > but I hear its a big improvement. And Sun offers it either as a free
> > > download or buy the CD. Suns' people are now in progress of
> > > implementing a better interface for it as i've been told. But I can't
> > > give any usability reports on it. Maybe someone else who has 5.2 can
> > > relate?
>
> --
> V
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From: "Dirk Kissing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux.installatie
Subject: Re: Lilo won't boot on Maxtor 54098H8 (40GB)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:10:17 +0200
Eric,
> I need more info,
Tnx, for helping! Here's Lilo:
boot = /dev/hdb
vga = normal
read-only
menu-scheme = Wg:kw:Wg:Wg
lba32
prompt
timeout = 80
message = /boot/message
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = linux
root = /dev/hdb1
initrd = /boot/initrd
And here fdisk :
Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4982 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 * 1 262 2104483+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb2 263 4982 37913400 5 Extended
/dev/hdb5 263 272 80293+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb6 273 795 4200966 83 Linux
/dev/hdb7 796 926 1052226 83 Linux
/dev/hdb8 927 1449 4200966 83 Linux
/dev/hdb9 1450 1711 2104483+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb10 1712 3017 10490413+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb11 3018 3412 3172806 83 Linux
/dev/hdb12 3413 3674 2104483+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb13 3675 3707 265041 82 Linux swap
Tnx,
Dirk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Fehr)
Subject: glibc compiling error with rpcgen and C preprocessor
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:14:00 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
Just wanted to compile glibc 2.2.2 but I run into a problem. make stops
with the message:
execv: Permission denied
path/to/source/build/sunrpc/rpcgen: C preprocessor failed with exit code
1
make[2]: *** [path/to/source/build/sunrpc/xbootparam_prot.stmp] Error 1
[and some more about leaving directories and errors making this stuff,
but it's on an other computer without floppy or network, I can't copy
the all the messages. Don't ask me how I get the software to that
machine :) ]
I did check the FAQ but there was nothing about 'preprocessor', 'execv'
nor 'rpcgen'.
I did check some Glibc-HOWTO, same result.
I did check some some GCC-HOWTO, same result (there is a reference to
atoi() and atol(), but this was of no help to me).
Now I'm stuck.
Any help out there?
Maybe some pointer to some other faq or newsgroup, if I'm wrong here?
Thanks,
Andreas
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Buzz Lightyear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.2 or 7.0
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:29:47 GMT
We are in the final stage of a 2 months testing period. without going into
too many details, we are debating between RHat 6.2 and 7.0. The server will
be strictly for Samba.
We feel the 6.2 is more stable and everything is in the "right place " while
some changes in 7.0 seem to cause the system some instability (Compaq
ProLiant 3000, dual PII 400).
Any input is appreciated.
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From: "Woon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Unhappy with FTP
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:29:07 +0800
Greetings,
I've been experiencing a really annoying problem eversince I decided to
toughen up the security of my ftp site. It used to work perfectly, then I
decided to install the latest wu-ftpd package (wu-ftpd2.6.1). I changed the
default directory from /var/ftp to /home/ftp and created the ftpadmin user
as well. At the moment, any attempts to connect to the ftp server would
return something like this:
421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection.
Login failed.
No control connection for command: No such file or directory.
This pops out as soon as I entered the user name.
Checking /var/log/messages:
Mar 21 12:15:22 xxxx ftpd[2115]: exitting on signal 11: Segmentation fault.
the ftp user should go to /home/ftp, i've set it so that the ftp directory
in /home is owned by ftp and group ftp. The home directories of the ftp
users are /home/ftp/ftp, /home/ftp/ftpadmin plus for the authorised user.
/home/ftp/ftp directory is owned by user ftp.
My ftpaccess file looks like this (editted slightly to protect the
innocent):
class norm real, guest *
class anon anonymous *
limit norm 5 Any /etc/msg.toomany
limit anon 5 Any /etc/msg.toomany
readme README* login
readme README* cwd=*
greeting brief
compress yes all
tar yes all
chmod no anon
delete no anon
overwrite no all
rename no all
upload /home/ftp *
upload /home/ftp/etc no
noretrieve /home/ftp/etc
guestgroup ftpadmin
guest-root /home/ftp/ftpadmin
restricted-uid ftpadmin
restricted-gid ftpadmin
noretrieve .notar
================
editted /etc/passwd:
.....
ftp:*:14:50:FTP user:/home/ftp/./ftp/:/dev/null
ftpadmin:x:501:501:/home/ftp/./ftpadmin/:/dev/null
....
I've added /dev/null in the /etc/shells as well
Any ideas on how to fix this is really welcomed. Thanks!!
W
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From: Joerg Ettrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting up LDAP for netscape
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:18:47 +0200
hi all,
I'm trying to set up LDAP (slapd) on a SUSE 6.3 box, for the use with
netscape as LDAP-client. I would like to distribute a common addressbook
for our network. As I'm not very experienced in LDAP stuff, I did not
succeed yet and that's why I'm asking: Is there someone who can give me
some information on how to set sldap up, creating a database? Maybe someone
can send me some example *.conf files?
Thankx in advance,
joerg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Just Keijser)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Why is "S" respawing?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:39:09 GMT
9 out of 10 times this is a serial port getty that is not hooked up to a
proper serial port; scan your /etc/inittab file and look for something similar
to
S:12345:respawn:/bin/getty ttyS<n>
comment out this line (prepent a '#') and reboot - the message should now be
gone.
HTH,
JJK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>When I first installed Debian on my laptop, I did so with my modem and
>ethernet cards unplugged, thinking it would make for a *less
>complicated* installation. HA. I thought I could just edit config files
>later to get everything running. But the Debian Doc Project docs are
>mostly blank sections with "do this later" penciled in and the Linux
>Doc Project docs mostly refer to Red Hat and the directions don't dync
>with the locations of Debian configuration files. I gave up trying to
>get my networking working by reading the HOWTOS, the Rute Tutorial and
>various other Linux docs and just reinstalled with everything plugged
>in.
>
> The networking now works, (Yay!), but now after booting up, every 5
>minutes I get a screenfull of text breaking in on whatever I'm doing as
>root.
>
>The text says "Usage /sbin/getty [" and then the help text you would
>get by issing the "/sbin/getty/ command with no arguments. But I get
>this multiple times, then an error line that says
>
>INIT Id "S" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
>
>So something is wrong with getty, and it has to do with Init. I've read
>the manpages for init, and related manpages and for getty and related
>manpages. And I'm stumped. Where do I look and what do I change to fix
>this respawing problem?
>
>I'm really not in the mood to reinstall the system *again* to tyr to
>fix a problem.
>
>Also, is there no place to look for detailed instructions on setting up
>Debian by hand if you had to? The installation program is all very
>fine, but I don't know what it's doing or why; the configure modules
>segment promises a page of description on each module so you can decide
>whether to install it, but doesn't deliver. You have to *guess* what
>something does and whether you need it.
>
===========================
JJK / Jan Just Keijser
Unix/Linux Systems Engineer
smtp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
flames > /dev/null 2>&1
===========================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Just Keijser)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Why is "S" respawing?
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:39:09 GMT
9 out of 10 times this is a serial port getty that is not hooked up to a
proper serial port; scan your /etc/inittab file and look for something similar
to
S:12345:respawn:/bin/getty ttyS<n>
comment out this line (prepent a '#') and reboot - the message should now be
gone.
HTH,
JJK
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>When I first installed Debian on my laptop, I did so with my modem and
>ethernet cards unplugged, thinking it would make for a *less
>complicated* installation. HA. I thought I could just edit config files
>later to get everything running. But the Debian Doc Project docs are
>mostly blank sections with "do this later" penciled in and the Linux
>Doc Project docs mostly refer to Red Hat and the directions don't dync
>with the locations of Debian configuration files. I gave up trying to
>get my networking working by reading the HOWTOS, the Rute Tutorial and
>various other Linux docs and just reinstalled with everything plugged
>in.
>
> The networking now works, (Yay!), but now after booting up, every 5
>minutes I get a screenfull of text breaking in on whatever I'm doing as
>root.
>
>The text says "Usage /sbin/getty [" and then the help text you would
>get by issing the "/sbin/getty/ command with no arguments. But I get
>this multiple times, then an error line that says
>
>INIT Id "S" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
>
>So something is wrong with getty, and it has to do with Init. I've read
>the manpages for init, and related manpages and for getty and related
>manpages. And I'm stumped. Where do I look and what do I change to fix
>this respawing problem?
>
>I'm really not in the mood to reinstall the system *again* to tyr to
>fix a problem.
>
>Also, is there no place to look for detailed instructions on setting up
>Debian by hand if you had to? The installation program is all very
>fine, but I don't know what it's doing or why; the configure modules
>segment promises a page of description on each module so you can decide
>whether to install it, but doesn't deliver. You have to *guess* what
>something does and whether you need it.
>
===========================
JJK / Jan Just Keijser
Unix/Linux Systems Engineer
smtp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
flames > /dev/null 2>&1
===========================
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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nl.comp.os.linux.installatie
Subject: Re: Lilo won't boot on Maxtor 54098H8 (40GB)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:07:57 +0200
> Tnx, for helping! Here's Lilo:
>
> boot = /dev/hdb
how do you plan to boot from hdb?
is it selected as boot first in the BIOS?
normally a bootchain is floppy; hda; other-bootable-devices
> vga = normal
> read-only
> menu-scheme = Wg:kw:Wg:Wg
what is this?
> lba32
> prompt
> timeout = 80
> message = /boot/message
:-(
a graphical boot?
Hmmmm, if you like it....
> image = /boot/vmlinuz
This is the image you want?
check it again.
> label = linux
> root = /dev/hdb1
And this is your root? not just /boot?
> initrd = /boot/initrd
Do you need this?
> And here fdisk :
>
> Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 4982 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdb1 * 1 262 2104483+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb2 263 4982 37913400 5 Extended
make it type 0x85.
It's not required, but a better choice, if you also have
windows on your system.
> /dev/hdb5 263 272 80293+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb6 273 795 4200966 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb7 796 926 1052226 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb8 927 1449 4200966 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb9 1450 1711 2104483+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb10 1712 3017 10490413+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb11 3018 3412 3172806 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb12 3413 3674 2104483+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb13 3675 3707 265041 82 Linux swap
>
That's a lot of partitions :-)
The main issue is your bootchain.
make sure it is correct. If there's a hda, and the MBR of hda contains
old lilo code, you'd get the problems you describe.
Either choose in the BIOS to boot from hdb, or change the line
from "boot=/dev/hda" to "boot=/dev/hdb"
And don't forget, run `/sbin/lilo -v -v` afterwards.
Eric
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