Linux-Setup Digest #993, Volume #19 Wed, 8 Nov 00 01:13:06 EST
Contents:
Linux as a router (Sunil Shukla)
Re: hacker...beware ("Michael")
Upgrading to RH7 from 6.2, anaconda hangs (Patrick A Wallace)
Not all ram seen by linux but is by BIOS check (Mark Worsdall)
Re: Setting up X for S3 Trio3D (RH6.2) (Norman Levin)
Re: Tried but it does not work(Linux freezes at ("Vigil")
Re: video card problems (bullwinkle)
Re: plip - init_module: Device or resource busy (Jerry McBride)
Re: as a root, i cannot run lilo,why? (E J)
Re: how do you setup Suck? (E J)
printer setup problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Modem speed to low (Wouter Kuijsten)
Installation Procedures (Kuang-chun Cheng)
MSN Dialup Broken ("McNichol_Dzyn")
PCMCIA help (Dave)
Re: redhat 7.1 or higher (Timothy Murphy)
Re: Delaying eth0 initialization... (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?=)
Laptop memory upgrade problem? (Jason Pell)
knode problems in kde2 ? (Cliff Sarginson)
Disk Woes, Limitations? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
telnetd and login prompt... ("Fayaz A. Shaikh")
Re: Not all ram seen by linux but is by BIOS check (Nevin Wong)
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From: Sunil Shukla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux as a router
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 01:16:19 GMT
Hi,
I have tried using the Linux Router Project 2.9.8 as my internal
router. I configured a system with two ethernet card with different and
valid IP address.
I have connected one of them to ethernet switchbox. A CISCO router is
also connected to
the same switch box. I have given CISCO router as a default gateway.
While the other one is hooked up to our network.
I have given the my LRP system's internal IP address as a default
gateway to one
of my internal system.
The problem i am facing is that I am unable see and access the
internet from my internal system. I can ping and see the internet from
LRP system.
I am wondering what am i missing ?
-Sunil.
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Reply-To: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.lang.basic,alt.surfing,alt.surfing.europe.uk,aus.computers.linux,sci.crypt
Subject: Re: hacker...beware
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:34:46 +1000
"Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3a0884ad$0$19405$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The following person (who posts on the above newsgroups)has been detected
by
> my firewall as attempting to hack into my system. He/she has been reported
> to the isp concerned and details are as follows.
>
> Name E-mail address Date Thread Newsgroup
> Vic Drastik [EMAIL PROTECTED] 00/04/20 comp.lang.basic.misc
> Mongolian Horde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 00/01/05 alt.surfing
> *Lauren* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 99/11/06 alt.music.moffatts
> Mongolian Horde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 99/11/05 alt.surfing
> Mongolian Horde [EMAIL PROTECTED] 99/11/05
> Location of 203.101.94.94:
> Country = Australia
> Region = New South Wales
> City = Sydney
> Standard network info
> [ nslookup (1): ip=203.101.94.94,
hostname=async93-wol-isp-1.nas.one.net.au]
>
Thanks for the warning, however next time please use the correct
terminology. This person is a cracker, not a hacker. Please refer to the
jargon file www.tuxedo.org/~esr or the printed (slightly out of date)
version, "The new hacker dictionary".
Cheers
--
Michael - please change puddle to pond to reply
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From: Patrick A Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Upgrading to RH7 from 6.2, anaconda hangs
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 01:07:44 +0000
Hi,
I am trying to do an upgrade of RedHat Linux from 6.2 to 7.
Everything runs OK until anaconda attempts to start the install proper.
The progress bar titled "Copying image to Hard Disk" appears and runs
successfully. Then next bar, entitled "Preparing to install" gets about
half-way and locks up.
The system is not totally hung, as I can use <Ctrl>+<F1>/<F3>/<F4> for
diagnostics,
<Ctrl>+<F2> for a shell etc.
Right before locking up, the GUI version emits the following message to
the X console:
"Xlib: Unexpected async reply (sequence 0x1252e)!"
I have no idea what this means. Any suggestions?
The text-only upgrade system gets to the same place in the procedure, and
then exits with "Signal 11".
Can anyone let me know how to get more diagnostics out of the installer
program, or what it could be doing during the "preparing to install" phase, or
any other place I can go for help.
On a similar theme, is it possible to disable USB support from the new
kernel using command-line switches? It could be a problem with a USB driver or
something similar.
If there's any more diagnostics I can add, please let me know.
Thanks in advance,
--Pat.
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From: Mark Worsdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Not all ram seen by linux but is by BIOS check
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 01:36:20 +0000
Hi,
During BIOS boot 98 Mb is seen:
2x32Mb 2x16Mb
but According to dmesg and messages, it is only seeing 64Mb:-
Nov 9 00:25:10 jilldando kernel: Memory: 64148k/66496k available (996k
kernel code, 412k reserved, 900k data, 40k init)
Any ideas why and howto fix?
M.
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Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 11:29:58 -0600
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Setting up X for S3 Trio3D (RH6.2)
Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> , "Trevor
> Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I can't fathom the settings with Xconfigurator or xf86config for my S3
> > Trio3D. :-( The best I get is that Xconfigurator complains that the server
> > failed. The worse I get is that the monitor blanks (goes into power save
> > mode) and never recovers.
>
> With the assistance of Red Hat support I've got the "card" working. :-)
>
> The trick for me was to use the framebuffer server rather than the S3 or
> SVGA servers. :-) The use of this server also affects the console but I
> quite like that; the text font is smuch nicer than the default one. :-)
>
> > A search at www.deja.com only turned up questions no answers.
> > www.xfree86.org suggests that the SVGA server will work. Tried to force
> > Xconfigurator/xf86config to use this as the base for my setup but failed.
>
> If XFree86 v4.x has a working Trio3D, which it is suggested they may, I
> might have a dilemma to resolve over the console stuff.
>
> > Any help will be gratefully received.
>
> Thanks to all those who tried to help.
>
> Regards, Trevor
** with Xconfigurator, select S3Trio3D.
Do not probe, select 4M video ram (makes no diff since
Xconfigurator only puts it in as a comment!!!!). When It comes
to monitor, if it is an IBM monitor such as a P50 or G50, do NOT
select it. Select Custom. Horizontal 50-90.
Go to 4th or so choice, Svga non interlaced
that can do 1000*700at60hz"
Then, select 1000*700 and ONLY 8bpp. You can do 800*600 at 16bpp. Do not
select 640*480.
Let it test. Should work.
--
Norman Levin
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From: "Vigil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tried but it does not work(Linux freezes at
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 01:33:07 +0000
linux 1?
"sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> had the audacity to claim:
> Thanks so much for your help. but "linux 3" can not resolve my problem.
>
> I think it is because I did not describe my problem clearly. In my linux,
> default mode is console text mode. linux freezes when boot. At that time,
> it is initializing my system, mounting file system, and executing those
> applications installed in my computer. Just like this:
>
> starting httpd:
>
> starting font server: (stop here, not response to any keys except
> "ctrl+alt+del")
>
> Even I use "linux 3", it still does these work before login prompt. So I
> wonder how to terminate this step(font server) and enter login so that I may
> reset x server or modify the init files removing font server startup?
--
.
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From: bullwinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: video card problems
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 02:30:11 -0000
Riyaz Mansoor wrote:
>
>
>
> hi people
>
> after trying to get my video card to display more than 8bit colors or
screen
> bigger than 480x640, UNSUCCESSFULLY for the last week, i wonder if there
is
> any person who has been able to do this?
>
> my video card is SiS6236, OS is RH6.2
>
> i would like replies from people who has managed it on other linux OS's
as
> well.
>
> i'm reall frustrated right now.
>
> riyaz
>
>
I have a Diamond Speedstar A50 (SiS 6326, 8 meg, AGP) working with Rh6.1.
I added options "no_accel" and "no_bitblt" to /etc/X11/XFConfig in the
"Device' section. Different cards with the SiS 6326 may need different
options. See http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.6/SiS.html for more options.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride)
Subject: Re: plip - init_module: Device or resource busy
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 03:08:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Tomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Any one know why when I try to use plip I get:
>
># insmod plip
>Using /lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/plip.o
>/lib/modules/2.2.16-3/net/plip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
>
>If I run lsmod, I get:
>
>[# lsmod
>Module Size Used by
>parport_probe 3396 0 (autoclean)
>parport_pc 7400 0 (autoclean)
>parport 7256 0 [parport_probe parport_pc]
>ppp 20876 2 (autoclean)
>slhc 4568 1 (autoclean) [ppp]
>nls_cp437 3876 2 (autoclean)
>vfat 9276 1 (autoclean)
>fat 30400 1 (autoclean) [vfat]
>ne 6668 1 (autoclean)
>8390 6072 0 (autoclean) [ne]
>opl3 11432 0 (unused)
>opl3sa2 3920 0
>ad1848 16208 0 [opl3sa2]
>mpu401 18896 0 [opl3sa2]
>sound 58680 0 [opl3 opl3sa2 ad1848 mpu401]
>soundcore 2628 7 [sound]
>soundlow 420 0 [sound]
>
>Running kernel 2.2.16-3
>
I JUST got this one figured out and... you'll be amazed!
The bottom line is... you'll HAVE to turn on the irq for your printer port.
Rather than give you some rotten instructions from memory... Do yourself a
favor and grab a copy of... PLIP INSTALL HOWTO from the LDP. If you need a copy
sent to you, just ask me...
I now have plip installed and running on a laptop and desktop... all I need do
now is... score a laplink cable and I'm all set.
Good luck!
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: as a root, i cannot run lilo,why?
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 19:16:16 -0800
$ su -
password: <secret>
# cd /sbin
# ./lilo
# chmod a+x lilo
# ./lilo
"Į�꣨derain��" wrote:
> after my server crashed for some reason,i tried to boot from floppy disk to
> repair it.during the booting ,there is no error.BTW,i use redhat linux 6.2,but
> the bootdisk is not made by redhat linux.when i mount the root partition ,i can
> use cd and ls to display the lilo command,and i am sure the mode is correct.but
> i still can not run the lilo .system prompt:
> can not excute the binary file
> what is the reason, i need to boot the server in a short time ,or my boss will
> kill me :( help me !!!
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: how do you setup Suck?
Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 19:28:22 -0800
# rpm -qpl suck###.###.rpm
look at the output for the location of the readme or documentation.
"David. E. Goble" wrote:
> Hi all;
>
> I downloaded Suck and installed the rpm, how do I set it up?
>
> --Regards David. E. Goble
> goble [AT] kin.net.au
> http://www.kin.net.au/goble
> Po Box 648 Kingscote, Kangaroo Island, SA 5223
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: printer setup problem
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 03:24:20 GMT
I am running mandrak 7.0 on an HP 8760c I need help getting my printer
running. The printer is a Brother hl 1240 laser printer. Any and all
help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 04:28:42 +0100
From: Wouter Kuijsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem speed to low
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
<br>After installing a (new) Debian version of Linux, I have not been
<br>able to get more speed out of my modem as 19200.
<br>If I set the the ppp config's to 115200, the modem starts to connect
with this speed,
<br>but I can not login at my provider.
<br>I can only communicate at a speed of max 19200.
<br>I did not have this problem before.
<p>Suggestions ?
<br>
<br>
<p>Wouter Kuijsten
<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<br>
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From: Kuang-chun Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installation Procedures
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 03:52:21 +0000 (UTC)
Hi,
I am new to embedded Linux. I knew Linux on x86 or PC
well and knew how to create cross-compiler on x86 to build
Linux kernel for different CPU such as PowerPC. However,
I can't find any good information for install Linux on single
board computer (such as MCP570, MVME167, or ...).
Where can I find information installation procedure of
embedded linux? Where can I find info for creat boot rom ...
thnaks. Please reply by email if possible.
Kuang-Chun Cheng
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "McNichol_Dzyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MSN Dialup Broken
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:05:23 -0600
Having trouble with PPPD via MSN dialup connection -- worked fine before and
now nothing. PPPD runs and I logon to the network but then can't surf the
Web. System freezes until I kill the USR modem. Any ideas?
Greg
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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 23:07:15 -0800
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCMCIA help
I've got a Toshiba Tecra 700CT. About a month ago i installed RH Linux
5.1 since it was the only version i had sitting around. The thing
worked great with no problems but when i upgraded to 6.0, my PCMCIA
services stopped working. I recently acquired a copy of 7.0 and did a
clean install. When i boot, after the "starting PCMCIA" message, i get
"Bad bridge mapping at 0xffeff000!". Does anybody know what this
means? Any help appreciated.
-=[dave]=-
aim: zosodk69
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: redhat 7.1 or higher
Date: 8 Nov 2000 04:13:19 -0000
Dave Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> CC = $(CROSS_COMPILE)kgcc <<<-----------
>As well as the change from gcc to kgcc do the make mrproper prior to the
>make xconfig etc.
As a matter of interest, is kgcc the same as egcs ?
If so, why invent a new name (which seems specific to RedHat)?
I compiled kernel-2,4,0-test10 with egcs and it seems to work perfectly well.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: 086-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Delaying eth0 initialization...
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 12:18:10 +0800
I am using Realtek 8139A network card. This problem does not exist when I
used Kernel 2.2.14. It only appear after I had upgraded my kernel. There
is a line in /etc/conf.modules to load the module:
"alias eth0 rtl8139.o"
Martin Gregorie �g�D�G
> On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:40:24 +0800, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?=
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I had this error message, 'Delaying eth0 initialization', when I type
> >'ifup eth0' in console. How to solve it? Thank you.
> >
>
> Is your NIC installed?
> What NIC and driver are uyou using?
> How have you configured them (whats in /etc/conf.modules and what tool
> put it there)
>
>
> --
> gregorie | Martin Gregorie
> @logica | Logica Ltd
> com | +44 020 76379111
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From: Jason Pell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Laptop memory upgrade problem?
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 16:11:04 +1000
Installed a second hard drive, created partition, etc all worked
successfully.
Went to install 128MB above the 128MB I already have and linux
complained
that the boot sector of this new harddrive was corrupt.
Removed extra memory rebooted linux a couple of times and all was fine,
but
cannot use memory.
Using Redhat 6.2
Hopefully someone can suggest a course of action.
Thanks
Jason
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: knode problems in kde2 ?
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 03:14:21 +0100
I have started to use knode as my new group reader. However I have noted
that sometimes my posted articles do not get through to a newsgroup (i hope
this gets through to this one!). I posted a message to one of the moderated
"test" news groups and got a reply to say that my article was almost
rejected as spam, because it had no "To:" field and the "Cc:' field looked
"strange".
Any clues on this one ? And how to cure it ?
Thanks in advance
Cliff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Disk Woes, Limitations?
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 05:24:48 GMT
I have a Dell Dimension with a 42GB IDE hard disk. I have had linux
loaded on this disk for sometime, and have had no problems. My disk,
prior to the problems was partitioned as so:
/dev/hda1 = linux
/dev/hda2 = swap
/dev/hda3 = BeOS
/dev/hda4 = Win2K
I do not remember how these were distributed in size on the disk, but
linux had the smaller of the partitions.
I have started over. I want to give linux the bulk of the disk so I
tried a config like this:
/dev/hda1 = linux 37Gb
/dev/hda2 = swap 64Mb
/dev/hda3 = win2k 5Gb
....roughly. I could not get linux to load. I consistantly got disk
errors "...inode out of bounds..." and the like. I am not aware of any
disk limitation within the linux kernel, tho I am sure there *is* one.
I tried giving linux / as low as 8Gb again, and mounting /usr/local for
the rest of the disk. Or splitting it up similarly to how I had it
prior to these problems. No luck.
I *can* load Win2k to the full disk with no problem. In addition, to
test whether Win2k could actually use the disk, a friend of mine wrote
a program that slowly created a text file that consumed the entire
drive. No problem. I believe my drive is fine. Someone please
enlighten me!
Best,
Kurtis Minder
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From: "Fayaz A. Shaikh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: telnetd and login prompt...
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 23:40:16 -0800
I have Redhat 6.0 on a laptop. I read somewhere that Redhat6.0 telnetd has
some problem so it doesn't give login prompt. I downloaded new telnetd rpm
for same version and installed it (from Errata Redhat) , even though it is
not working. I am able to connect but does not get login prompt (even before
installing new rpm, it was not working). Not even when I am getting to
connect through localhost (127.0.0.1). I am not able to get login prompt
even on ftp. I have checked inetd.conf. It has apprpriate entries. I don't
know what else to do? Please reply, if anybody knows. I need help.
Fayaz Shaikh
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From: Nevin Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Not all ram seen by linux but is by BIOS check
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 13:46:58 +0800
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Hi
add to /etc/lilo.conf
append="mem=96M"
and then running /sbin/lilo to allow the kernel to use the additional
memory.
Nev
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Mark Worsdall wrote:
> Hi,
>
> During BIOS boot 98 Mb is seen:
>
> 2x32Mb 2x16Mb
>
> but According to dmesg and messages, it is only seeing 64Mb:-
>
> Nov 9 00:25:10 jilldando kernel: Memory: 64148k/66496k available (996k
> kernel code, 412k reserved, 900k data, 40k init)
>
> Any ideas why and howto fix?
>
> M.
>
> --
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Hi
<p>add to /etc/lilo.conf
<br>append="mem=96M"
<br>and then running /sbin/lilo to allow the kernel to use the additional
memory.
<p>Nev
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<p>
<p>Mark Worsdall wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi,
<p>During BIOS boot 98 Mb is seen:
<p>2x32Mb 2x16Mb
<p>but According to dmesg and messages, it is only seeing 64Mb:-
<p>Nov 9 00:25:10 jilldando kernel: Memory: 64148k/66496k available
(996k
<br>kernel code, 412k reserved, 900k data, 40k init)
<p>Any ideas why and howto fix?
<p>M.
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