Linux-Setup Digest #993, Volume #18 Sun, 25 Jun 00 17:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Sound in Slackware 7 (Martin Teschner)
Installing Question!! ("The Chief")
Re: Gnome/Sawfish window problem (D. D. Brierton)
Re: setting up loopback problem (Gernot Fink)
Re: Installing Question!! (Thomas Weinbrenner)
Re: Redhat 6.1 PPP won't go... (Bit Twister)
Re: Sound card that uses only 1 interrupt please!?! (Martin Teschner)
Re: Do non-Debian distros have "easy-to-upgrade" apt-like installs? (Martin Teschner)
How do I make a driver disk for RedHat 6.2 ("Jette Isaksen")
Re: Installing Question!! ("David ..")
Re: How do I make a driver disk for RedHat 6.2 ("David ..")
Re: Foxpro 2.6 for Unix/Linux & terminfo files (Dennis)
Re: Sound in Slackware 7 (Thomas Zajic)
Re: changing the /root directory location (Doc Shipley)
Re: [JOB] Debian installer needed near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. ("Andrew E.
Schulman")
Re: Access linux partition from windows ("Andrew E. Schulman")
After I shut down incorrectly X doesn't start ("Mingyi Liu")
Re: Making A New Boot Disk \ Updated kernel ("Andrew E. Schulman")
Re: changing the /root directory location (J Bland)
Re: How do I make a driver disk for RedHat 6.2 (E J)
Re: KPPP problem -- I think (Bill Unruh)
Re: How do I make a driver disk for RedHat 6.2 (Hal Burgiss)
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From: Martin Teschner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound in Slackware 7
Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:07:19 +0200
Hello Thomas,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic) writes:
> Ouch! You're kidding, right? The proper way to do this, of course, is
> using 'usermod' (and 'groupadd'/'groupmod', if necessary).
I'm not kidding anybody. Tell me the defferences between editing
/etc/group or using usermod for this problem.
Yes, there is a difference:
If you use usermod you have to remember all the groups the user was a
member till now. If you edit /etc/group you can add him simply
whithout knowing to which groups the user belongs so far.
Except of the man-page of usermod:
-G group,[...]
A list of supplementary groups which the user is
also a member of. Each group is separated from the
next by a comma, with no intervening whitespace.
The groups are subject to the same restrictions as
the group given with the -g option. If the user is
currently a member of a group which is not listed,
the user will be removed from the group
Don't forget to read the last sentence.
Greetings,
Martin
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Reply-To: "The Chief" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "The Chief" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Question!!
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:33:31 -0700
I have mandrake v.7.0 up and running fine! I got a problem w/ installing
Software w/ RPM! I tried to Install the Extra software that came with
Mandrake!! Iam Using the CD!
It says it's installing BUT I never can find in Linux is there a special
Dir! where it is Stored? The Manual Doesn't Say
Thanx In Advance!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. D. Brierton)
Subject: Re: Gnome/Sawfish window problem
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:48:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 07:37:53 -0700, cowbird
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using Helixcode Gnome with Sawfish, I am running ito a problem
> with popup windows: Any child windows that appear try to resize
> to the same dimensions as their parent window. Thus, little
> dialog boxes come up very large. I cant seem to find a control
> panel setting for this. Has anyone else come across this problem
> and its solution?
Yes! I thought it may be something stupid I'd done when fiddling aroun
with Sawfish's options, but I'm now inclined to think it is a bug. This
only started happening when I upgraded using Helix Update to Sawfish
0.28. I downloaded the latest version from Helix last night (0.28.1) in
the hope that the problem was fixed, but it isn't.
I don't want to send in a bug report until I am positive that it is a
bug and not something silly that I've done. If anyone else is having
this problem, perhaps they could also post a follow-up to this thread,
or, alternatively if anyone has a solution please let us know. Frankly
it is surprising how infuriating such a small problem can be.
Best,
Darren
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D. D. Brierton, Centre for Cognitive Science, University of Edinburgh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ddb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gernot Fink)
Subject: Re: setting up loopback problem
Date: 25 Jun 2000 18:53:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Denis Sevee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is probably a dumb question but:
> I'm trying to set up loopback on my Linux system by following the
> steps outlined in a couple of books.
> (1) I have the line: 127.0.0.1 localhost in my /etc/hosts file
> (2) I then do: ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1.
> (3) I then do: route add localhost
The syntax is: route add localhost lo
If this fail add the netmask 255.255.255.255 for a single host
> At this point I get an error saying: unknown device SIOADDRT
>
> I can't find any info as to what this error means and how to fix it.
> Can anybody help me.
>
> Thanks,
> denis sevee
>
--
MFG G.Fink
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From: Thomas Weinbrenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Question!!
Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:55:17 +0200
Reply-To: Thomas Weinbrenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"The Chief" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have mandrake v.7.0 up and running fine! I got a problem w/ installing
> Software w/ RPM! I tried to Install the Extra software that came with
> Mandrake!! Iam Using the CD!
>
> It says it's installing BUT I never can find in Linux is there a special
> Dir! where it is Stored? The Manual Doesn't Say
Software isn't always installed in a special directory.
rpm -q <packagename> -l
should show you, where it is installed.
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Thomas Weinbrenner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.1 PPP won't go...
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:16:49 GMT
If your email address was any good I would have mailed
you an html page to fix your problems. Oh well.
>Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean
That error can be caused by sending a carrage return (CR)
after user name or password, whichever/whatever is last.
Use a \c to suppress the CR .
man chat for \x descriptions.
snippet from one of my chat example script
id:--id: '\q\dlogin_id_here' \
'Password?' '\q\dpasswd_here' \
'succeeds' '\d\d\r\r\r' \
'Plano1>' 'ppp' \
'starting PPP' '\c'
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:54:07 -0700, Rob Basler
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have just installed Redhat 6.1.
>
>I'm trying to get PPP to work. I have the connection configured, but
>NETCFG will not activate it, clicking on activate changes the status,
>but the modem doesn't dial.
>
>If I type ifup ppp0 it dials and connects, but I get the following error
>in the log right before it disconnects:
>
>LCP timeout sending Config-Requests
>Connection Terminated
>Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean
>Problem all had bit 7 set to 0
>Hangup (SIGHUP)
>Exit.
>
>I have the MTU, MRU set to 1500, the timeout set to 60, and when I
>connect using OS/2 I have to have VJ compression enabled but I don't see
>anything like that in Linux.
>
>Suggestions? Thank you.
>
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If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
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From: Martin Teschner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound card that uses only 1 interrupt please!?!
Date: 25 Jun 2000 21:09:27 +0200
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Is that the PCI or ISA version of soundblaster 16 or do both have
> only 1 interrupt?
I have a SB 16 ISA-PnP, it works with only one interrupt, but be
careful installing it on a RedHat with the installing-tools. If you do
so, it may uses the resources of your serial-port (ttyS1 [COM2]). But
this is only caused by the mdid-device (the midi-honker on the card),
simply remove this entry by hand.
Greetings,
Martin
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From: Martin Teschner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do non-Debian distros have "easy-to-upgrade" apt-like installs?
Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:38:29 +0200
Hi Jerome,
Jerome Mrozak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've been toying with a number of distros, mostly from their ISO
> images. In one case I tried to install KDE 1.91 by installing their
> binary RPMs onto a SuSE 6.4 setup. That didn't work too well,
> [...]
are you shure you'd installed rpm-files for SuSE? RedHat-rpm DO NOT
work on SusE.
Greetings,
Martin
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From: "Jette Isaksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I make a driver disk for RedHat 6.2
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:48:00 +0200
Hi
I am very new to the Linux system and have this litle problem.
I have a netcard I want to make a driver disk for. The driver is on a
CD-rom. But how do I make a disk that RedHat 6.2 will reconice. I want to
use the disk when I install RedHat 6.2. I have tried to copy the files from
the CD-rom to the floppy disk. RedHat din't reconice the floppy it said that
it was not a corect driver disk for this releas of RedHat.
Sow, how do I make a driver disk for this netcard for RedHat 6.2
Jette Isaksen
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Question!!
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:04:16 -0500
The Chief wrote:
>
> I have mandrake v.7.0 up and running fine! I got a problem w/ installing
> Software w/ RPM! I tried to Install the Extra software that came with
> Mandrake!! Iam Using the CD!
>
> It says it's installing BUT I never can find in Linux is there a special
> Dir! where it is Stored? The Manual Doesn't Say
>
> Thanx In Advance!
Is the extra software you mention "src.rpm" files? If they are the you
are installing the sources. Look in:
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES (or) /usr/src/redhat/SPECS
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Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I make a driver disk for RedHat 6.2
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:08:47 -0500
Jette Isaksen wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am very new to the Linux system and have this litle problem.
> I have a netcard I want to make a driver disk for. The driver is on a
> CD-rom. But how do I make a disk that RedHat 6.2 will reconice. I want to
> use the disk when I install RedHat 6.2. I have tried to copy the files from
> the CD-rom to the floppy disk. RedHat din't reconice the floppy it said that
> it was not a corect driver disk for this releas of RedHat.
>
> Sow, how do I make a driver disk for this netcard for RedHat 6.2
Did you try the drivers disk (gdth.img) that is supplied with the CD
located in the /images/drivers directory? You would use rawrite to make
the drivers disk.
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Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dennis)
Subject: Re: Foxpro 2.6 for Unix/Linux & terminfo files
Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:28:31 GMT
>I would expect so. The configure script (for ncurses) has a help message:
> configure --help
In /usr/src/linux/scripts I ran a ./Configure --help which gave me 'permission
denied'.
Start me at the top. In what directory do I look for gpm source? What files
do I look for, what files do I need?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: Sound in Slackware 7
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:23:29 GMT
First off - I just re-read my reply, and it admittedly sounded a bit
harsh. Sorry if it came across this way, I didn't mean to sound like
a smartass ... oh well, on to the topic.
On 25 Jun 2000 20:07:19 +0200, Martin Teschner wrote:
> > Ouch! You're kidding, right? The proper way to do this, of course,
> > is using 'usermod' (and 'groupadd'/'groupmod', if necessary).
>
> I'm not kidding anybody. Tell me the defferences between editing
> /etc/group or using usermod for this problem.
I know it works just the same, but hand-editing sensitive files as
root always bears some kind of risk, even if "you know what you're
doing". A small typo at the wrong place, and poof!
Let's take /etc/group as an example: one ":" too much, a ";" instead
of a ",", etc. - small mistakes like these are usually difficult to
track down, especially if more than one file is involved (eg. manually
removing a user from /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and /etc/group instead
of using 'userdel'). That's why I suggested to use the "proper front-
end" instead.
Myself, I do "know what I'm doing" (I hope :-), and I still use
user(add|del|mod), group(add|del|mod), passwd, ch(sh|fn|passwd)
for maintenance tasks. It's just less error prone, that's all -
but each to his own, of course.
> Yes, there is a difference:
> If you use usermod you have to remember all the groups the user was
> a member till now. If you edit /etc/group you can add him simply
> whithout knowing to which groups the user belongs so far.
Granted, but 'id <user>' will show you all the groups a given user
is a member of.
> Except of the man-page of usermod:
>
> -G group,[...]
> [ ... ]
> If the user is currently a member of a group which is
> not listed, the user will be removed from the group
>
> Don't forget to read the last sentence.
I already know this particular feature of 'usermod', thanks - that's
why I suggested the OP to read the appropriate man pages first. ;-)
Nichts f�r ungut,
Thomas
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- Thomas "ZlatkO" Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux-2.2.16/slrn-0.9.6.2+ -
- "It is not easy to cut through a human head with a hacksaw." (M. C.) -
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From: Doc Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,sg.linux
Subject: Re: changing the /root directory location
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:35:22 GMT
Jeremy Low wrote:
>
> anyone has any idea how I may change the location of my /root directory to a
> different location ( from one partition to another yet maintaining the name
> as /root )
If you don't have anything in /root you want, just mount the new
partition as /root.
# cd /
# mount /dev/hda5 /root
This all assumes that /dev/hda5 is the partition you want to use. When
you next log in as root, Linux will rebuild all your default config
files. If you want to copy the files in /root to the new /root, before
you mount /dev/hda5 as /root, mount it as /mnt, and
# cd /root
# tar cvpf /mnt/mystuff.tar ./*
# tar xvf /mnt/mystuff.tar
# umount /mnt
# cd /
# mount /dev/hda5 /root
Add this line to /etc/fstab:
/dev/hda5 /root /ext2 defaults 1 2
Note that if /root was originally part of the / partition, and you mount
a different partition over /root, the old files remain on the drive, in
the / partition. If you want to free that space, you have to delete the
files in /root before you mount the new /root partition.
Clear as mud, huh?
--
Doc Shipley
Network Stuff
Austin, Earth
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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: [JOB] Debian installer needed near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:38:46 -0400
This is one of the stranger postings I've seen in newsgroups.
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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Access linux partition from windows
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:44:04 -0400
> i think it is to access windows partition from Linux, but could you give me
> any idea to access linux partition from Windows
> suri
There are two freeware packages: explore2fs
(http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/) and fsdext2
(http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/). I've used explore2fs in read-only
mode and it works fine. I haven't tried the write mode, nor have I
tried fsdext2.
Good luck.
A.
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From: "Mingyi Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: After I shut down incorrectly X doesn't start
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:25:38 -0500
Hi, I'm relatively new to linux and X, and recently I accidentally (and
mindlessly) shut down linux using ctrl-alt-del, which was a really bad idea.
After that, my linux still started, but because I configured to let X start
automatically, X would start load up after Linux's loaded, and it would give
me a grey screen with mouse enabled, but it would not give me the login
screen any more and I don't know how to get out of this screen. How can I
return to console mode and re-configure X? Or do I need to reinstall X
server etc. (or worst, my Linux? I've got too many customized
option/software to give up already).
Thanks a lot if any of you would kindly reply to this mesg!
Mingyi
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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Making A New Boot Disk \ Updated kernel
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:48:01 -0400
> I use a boot disk for starting Linux and can't figure out how to make
> a new one that can see the updated kernel. All the how to's assume you
> are using LiLo. I followed all the instructions, but after RAM disk,
> they don't apply. My lilo.conf file only has what I type at the boot:
> prompt, so editing it isn't possible. Thanks to all - Chris
dd if=<kernel image> of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 conv=sync ; sync
This copies your kernel image directly onto the floppy, which then can
act as a linux boot disk.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,sg.linux
Subject: Re: changing the /root directory location
Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:39:58 GMT
> Clear as mud, huh?
That's as maybe but it's logical.
There's always a logical solution or answer with unix, even if it takes you
a few weeks to work it out...
Frinky
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I make a driver disk for RedHat 6.2
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:54:52 -0700
The driver disk is more likely for windows and not for linux.
You usually don't need a driver disk for most network cards.
Go to your network card web site and find what kind of network modules it needs
(i.e. tulip, ne2000, etc)
If it is an odd ball network card, you might have to download the source code
and recompile the network module.
Next time, you are in windows get the network card's irq and io settings
Setting->Control Panel->System
locate your netcard and get the properties.
When you got all the information,
$ su -
password <secret>
# control-panel
click on the corn icon (kernel) put in the network card module, io, irq
click on the network and put in the ip, gateway, dns, routes.
and accept.
click on the network icon and activate the network card.
Jette Isaksen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am very new to the Linux system and have this litle problem.
> I have a netcard I want to make a driver disk for. The driver is on a
> CD-rom. But how do I make a disk that RedHat 6.2 will reconice. I want to
> use the disk when I install RedHat 6.2. I have tried to copy the files from
> the CD-rom to the floppy disk. RedHat din't reconice the floppy it said that
> it was not a corect driver disk for this releas of RedHat.
>
> Sow, how do I make a driver disk for this netcard for RedHat 6.2
>
> Jette Isaksen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: KPPP problem -- I think
Date: 25 Jun 2000 21:04:52 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Robert Jones"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]I'm running RH 6.0 & KDE and recently added a SCSI card and DAT drive for
]which I had no support. So, I set about to build a new kernel (2.2.16)
]with SCSI support. That part worked swell. I now have a full backup and
]have resolved all the problems but one. If I boot the new kernel, log in
]as a normal user and use the KPPP app to attempt to dial my ISP, I get a
]pop-up which says:
] This kernel has no PPP support, neither compiled in nor via the kernel
] module loader. To solve this problem:
] * contact your system administrator
] or
] * install a kernel with ppp support
]BUT my new kernel DOES have ppp support. Here's a excerpt from dmesg:
Get rid of kppp. this is a bug in kppp. It used a bug in linux to
determine where ppp support existed. when the bug was fixed kppp broke.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: How do I make a driver disk for RedHat 6.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:07:42 GMT
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:48:00 +0200, Jette Isaksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I am very new to the Linux system and have this litle problem. I have a
>netcard I want to make a driver disk for. The driver is on a CD-rom.
>But how do I make a disk that RedHat 6.2 will reconice. I want to use
>the disk when I install RedHat 6.2. I have tried to copy the files from
>the CD-rom to the floppy disk. RedHat din't reconice the floppy it said
>that it was not a corect driver disk for this releas of RedHat.
Go to www.redhat.com, search redhat (not marketplace) on 'driver+disk',
then fine tune the search. I just turned up 1098 hits on this.
>Sow, how do I make a driver disk for this netcard for RedHat 6.2
You might not need to.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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