Linux-Setup Digest #993, Volume #20 Thu, 5 Apr 01 14:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Hylafax and vgetty, Anyone got it working?? (Craig Kelley)
Re: Gnome-libs and libpanel ("mari-k")
Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux) (Craig Kelley)
Apache Question (Stuart)
Re: Apache Question (H.Bruijn)
Pro/Con of the Cyrus and Washington IMAP servers (Ton 't Lam)
Re: Apache Question (H.Bruijn)
xfree86 4.0.3 installation (Topher Cawlfield)
Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux) (Arthur Sowers)
Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux) (Harold Colvin)
Stupid newbie questions ("Nathan J. Nagel")
Re: Display problem ("Mark Van Bogart")
Re: Magic partition on linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Kernel size and modules ("NyQuist")
Re: Apache Question (Stuart)
Re: Unusual mount problem (Stuart)
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Hylafax and vgetty, Anyone got it working??
Date: 05 Apr 2001 09:53:52 -0600
"Anthony Childers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have spent days trying to set-up my linux machine to serve as a fax and
> answering machine. I have been mostly successful but I am still having a
> problem with vgetty.
>
> Let me explain my set-up. My linux machine is running Red Hat 6.1. I have a
> single telephone line with distinctive ring. The single ring (RING A) is for
> voice calls and the double ring (RING B) is for fax calls.
>
> I am using HylaFAX to handle the incomming calls and receive the faxes. I am
> trying to setup vgetty to take care of the answering machine part.
>
> Hylafax (actually faxgetty) is able to recognize RING A and RING B just
> fine. In fact the fax part is working fine.
>
> The problem is when I get RING A and try to execute vgetty. Vgetty is
> executed with the command line arguments specified by VGettyArgs in the
> config file. I have specified only the device (/dev/ttyS2). So vgetty gets
> executed like this:
>
> /bin/vgetty /dev/ttyS2
>
> For some reason, it does not work. I suspect the problem is with the
> arguments that I am passing (or need to pass) to vgetty.
>
> Does anyone have this working?! If so, please share your config file with
> us.
I do this for computer logins (not voice) -- we use mgetty, which
faxgetty calls just fine if the call isn't a fax.
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: "mari-k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome-libs and libpanel
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:56:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Huub van Niekerk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I try to install the Firestarter-firewall but the installation asks
> for gnome-libs-devel-1.2.11 and libpanel_status.so.0. Does anyone know
> where I can find these?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Huub
www.gnome.org .. tarball gnome-libs
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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.questions,comp.os.msdos.misc,linux.redhat.install,sci.research.careers
Subject: Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux)
Date: 05 Apr 2001 10:00:12 -0600
Arthur Sowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> ntsysv <cr>
>
> and it brought back the whole list of services that it controls complete
> with "check" marks or blank spaces for all of the services that are
> accessible. I just un-Xed all the services that were part of the default
> install except the log, printer, and one other (can't remember) services
> and closed the window. Then graceful shutdown & reboot, and sure enough, I
> can now turn off the power switch, turn it back on 20-30 sec later, and it
> all boots up just fine (it does do a filecheck that takes maybe a minute
> or so, but still ends up with a complete bootup). Even with StarOffice
> runing, a power off and turn back on still boots up fine and can launch SO
> fine, and it works fine, and it all collapses back upon exit from the
> application and does graceful shutdowns without problems.
You *don't* want to do this. Linux agressivly caches information in
memory, and if you power down at the wrong moment it can potentially
ruin your entire system. You should always shut down the machine
properly, and you should never disable fsck at bootup time (which is
what you did).
A couple of tips:
A) If X11 (GUI) is hung and doesn't seem to respond, you can force
it to exit by pressing control-alt-backspace
B) If a console screen appears hung, you can switch to
another one by using alt-F2 (or F3, F4, etc.); a freeze is
usually caused because you accidentally hit control-S (which
tells the tty to freeze [stop]), and you can get it moving
again by pressing control-Q
--
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache Question
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:07:03 -0400
I have my web server setup but if I go to http://localhost/ i get Apache
screen tell me
Forbidden You dont have permission to access / on this server.
Where did I mess up?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Apache Question
Date: 5 Apr 2001 16:31:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:07:03 -0400, Stuart allegedly wrote:
>I have my web server setup but if I go to http://localhost/ i get Apache
>screen tell me
>Forbidden You dont have permission to access / on this server.
>
>Where did I mess up?
The directory you have set as the root for your webserver isn't world
accessable/readable.
Find the httpd.conf file and check the DocumentRoot for it's permissions
On RedHat installations it is usually /home/httpd/html on debian
/var/www other ditricbutions it may be different.
permissions should be at least drwx-----x for the directories, and the
files (index.html) and others should be at least -rw----r--
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands
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From: Ton 't Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pro/Con of the Cyrus and Washington IMAP servers
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 14:05:17 +0200
Anybody what to comment on the Pro's and Con's of the
University of Washington IMAP Server and Cyrus IMAP4
server. Pointers are appreciated.
Aim is to have the message store on the IMAP server. The
server is up all time. Simply to have mail access from StarOffice,
netscape, mutt.
Thanks,
Ton 't Lam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: Apache Question
Date: 5 Apr 2001 16:42:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5 Apr 2001 16:31:29 GMT, H.Bruijn allegedly wrote:
>On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:07:03 -0400, Stuart allegedly wrote:
>>I have my web server setup but if I go to http://localhost/ i get Apache
>>screen tell me
>>Forbidden You dont have permission to access / on this server.
>>
>>Where did I mess up?
>
>The directory you have set as the root for your webserver isn't world
>accessable/readable.
>Find the httpd.conf file and check the DocumentRoot for it's permissions
This is formulated a bit awkward. The permissions aren't configured in
the httpd.conf file, but you would need to check it to find what
directory is configured as the documentroot. The check the permissions
of that directory, and if those appear corrct, also check the ones above
it in the directory structure.
--
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn website: http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands
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From: Topher Cawlfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xfree86 4.0.3 installation
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:50:34 -0500
Hi,
I've recently installed xfree86 4.0.3 onto my system running Linux
Mandrake 7.2. What I did was to first install 4.0.2 using "sh
Xinstall.sh", and then installed the 4.0.3 patch to that.
I'm have two problems that I can't solve. First, the font server,
xfs, doesn't want to run as user xfs. Second, I'm still not getting
any hardware acceleration with my Matrox G400.
As for xfs not starting: if I (as root) run:
> xfs -port -1 -daemon
Then everything is fine. But I don't think that's the way it's
supposed to run. If I try instead:
> xfs -port -1 -daemon -droppriv
Then nothing happens. I get no error message, but xfs will not be running.
Similarly, in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S90xfs, this line doesn't do anything:
daemon --user xfs xfs -port -1 -daemon
I see that xfs is a valid user, but it's not a member of the xfs group
as the xfs man page suggests it might be; rather its group is xgrp. I
tried this exercise as well, which perplexes me:
[root@queeg500 fs]# su xfs
[root@queeg500 fs]# whoami
root
[root@queeg500 fs]# su goobledirk
su: user goobledirk does not exist
[root@queeg500 fs]# su topher
[topher@queeg500 fs]$ whoami
topher
So when I su as user xfs, nothing happens. Maybe this demonstrates
nothing but my own stupidity, but I don't understand it.
Does anyone know what might be going on here?
As for hardware acceleration, I thought I'd try 4.0.3 because they
claimed to get 3-D acceleration working for the G400. As far as I
can tell, I'm getting no 3D support with 4.0.3. I couldn't find
anything to try except looking at XF86Config-4 and playing with it a
bit. I didn't see anything suspicious though, and nothing seemed to
help. One thing I haven't tried yet is different color depths. Right
now I'm at 1600x1200, 24bpp.
With xfree86 3.3.6, I notice that 3D games like tuxracer and Cannon
Smash run smoothly. But I've also been playing lbreakout, which does
a lot of 2-D stuff, and it slows way down (almost unplayable because
the paddle jerks around) when a lot is happening on the screen. I
turned the graphics options way down and it was barely playable then.
With 4.0.3, tuxracer and Cannon Smash get very low frame rates (1 or
.5 fps), yet lbreakout runs just great. Never a slowdown, even with
the best graphics options and tons of mayhem onscreen.
Is there something special I need to do to get some hardware
acceleration in 4.0.3?
Thanks,
Topher
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From: Arthur Sowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.questions,comp.os.msdos.misc,linux.redhat.install,sci.research.careers
Subject: Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux)
Date: 5 Apr 2001 17:01:30 GMT
On 5 Apr 2001, Craig Kelley wrote:
> Arthur Sowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> > ntsysv <cr>
> >
> > and it brought back the whole list of services that it controls complete
> > with "check" marks or blank spaces for all of the services that are
> > accessible. I just un-Xed all the services that were part of the default
> > install except the log, printer, and one other (can't remember) services
> > and closed the window. Then graceful shutdown & reboot, and sure enough, I
> > can now turn off the power switch, turn it back on 20-30 sec later, and it
> > all boots up just fine (it does do a filecheck that takes maybe a minute
> > or so, but still ends up with a complete bootup). Even with StarOffice
> > runing, a power off and turn back on still boots up fine and can launch SO
> > fine, and it works fine, and it all collapses back upon exit from the
> > application and does graceful shutdowns without problems.
>
> You *don't* want to do this.
I'd like to hear from more people about this.
Linux agressivly caches information in
> memory, and if you power down at the wrong moment it can potentially
> ruin your entire system.
When I had a raftload of services runing (as in the default setup), it
blew away my bootup (it would lockup before finishing the boot up, or not
shut down to "system halt").
You should always shut down the machine
> properly,
I agree. But when I asked in the broad post I made many months ago, I even
got back posts and private email from Solaris whips and Unix whips using
Linux on boxes and while they all said you should shut down properly, they
also said their boxes would survive a random power-off with the OS fully
running and had no problems.
and you should never disable fsck at bootup time (which is
> what you did).
No, I did not disable fsck because I got messages during bootup that said
"checking filesystem" and the HD was going through a systematic seek cycle
and ended with some kind of "pass" remark. I think it was fsck that was
the one service that I forgot to say I left alone.
> A couple of tips:
>
> A) If X11 (GUI) is hung and doesn't seem to respond, you can force
> it to exit by pressing control-alt-backspace
I've done this. Also, log into the virtual terminal, do "ps" and kill the
X-server.
> B) If a console screen appears hung, you can switch to
> another one by using alt-F2 (or F3, F4, etc.); a freeze is
> usually caused because you accidentally hit control-S (which
> tells the tty to freeze [stop]), and you can get it moving
> again by pressing control-Q
I've also hung up a screen by launching the same screensaver twice. Its a
good demo of multiprocess and on one of my boxes you can't do anything to
it without going to another virtual terminal and doing a kill.
Lets hear some more comments out there!
Art Sowers
> --
> It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
>
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From: Harold Colvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FYI on Power Failure induced crashes (in Linux)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux.redhat,alt.os.linux.questions,
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:25:54 -0400
I have shutdown a few times my linux system by hitting the power button by
mistake. Each time, the reboot has be delayed by fsck checking the file
system. I have been lucky that I have not done damage to my system other
than the loss of the data in the buffers. You should always shutdown the
system properly.
Harold
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From: "Nathan J. Nagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Stupid newbie questions
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:38:37 GMT
"Nathan J. Nagel" wrote:
>
> Oh yes, forgot to mention, how do I create a boot disk? I was never
> prompted to create one during the install process.
>
> nate
>
> "Nathan J. Nagel" wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm trying to install Linux for the first time on my "parts bin"
> > computer. I've tried Caldera 2.3 and it seemed to install OK (no
> > problems at all in fact - seemed too easy!) and run fine but when I shut
> > down and rebooted LILO will hang on "LI" - this is on a system with no
> > other OS, just Linux. I'd like to RTFM but I don't know where it is, so
> > gentle pointers or any helpful hints would be greatly appreciated! I
> > just used the GUI that came with the CD and let it do all the work, I
> > didn't try to "tweak" anything.
> >
> > I successfully installed Red Hat 5.2 on this same machine previously,
> > but never did get everything to function correctly :( (video was all
> > screwed up - everything was working but sometimes my text would end up
> > the same color as the background, and none of the utilities wanted to
> > work reliably)
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > nate
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From: "Mark Van Bogart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Display problem
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 17:50:40 GMT
I went to http://www.portico.org and searched on "netscape" to find the
following so I hope it pooints you in the right direction:
Netscape has a bad habit of making small text so small it is
unreadable, and increasing the standard font size makes normal text too big.
To fix this, add Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement: 5 to your .Xdefaults
file, log out and log in again.
"David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Lately I installed RedHat7 on my laptop (Compaq Presario).
>
> I let Xconfigurator detect the hardware and it found my video card and
> unknown monitor.
>
> As monitor type I choose Generic LCD with my screen resolution and I
> even tried Generic multisync.
>
> The problem is that when I use the X (Gnome) the fonts look very small
> and not sharp, especially on the Netscape browser.
>
> How can I fix the problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
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Subject: Re: Magic partition on linux?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 12:47
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"mari-k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "alfred hammerfield"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> hi
>> is there a utility on linux that permit to redistrubut disk partitions
>> like partition-magic on Win NT4 ?
>> my system: redhat 6.2 kernel 2.2.14-5 help! thanks.
>
>partition magic >= 4.0 can handle linux ext2fs partitions.
>
>p.s. why do you crosspost? what is the point of having more than 1
>usenet newsgroup then? think about it.
PM does work on linux, but it has a bug in it.
That is, in some circumestances it will rewrite the fstab file
incorrectly, hence leaving the machine unbootable.
Search the NG's for this, a while back there were some discussion about
this.
Good Luck
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From: "NyQuist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Kernel size and modules
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:49:35 +0100
I don't think your doing anything wrong, per se. And i can't be there to see
what things you don't need in your kernel; try selecting *most* things as
modules; nevertheless don't forget you don't need many things to get linux
working correctly; most are defaulted to the right on/off status'; whenevr i
reconfig, i only check a couple of options i *know* i need. Try a reconfig
as you have specified without checking anything; save and exit; make
bzImage; post the size of the kernel; then if it's good enough; we can go on
from there to see what's making your kernel so large; and believe me 1.8Meg
is bloody massive. Good luck
"Alberto Arribas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello!
>
> Thanks a lot for your e-mails the last week. I have been able to reduce
> my kernel from 1800 Kb to 925 Kb, but, unfortunately, it is not small
> enough. I know that less than 810 Kb would be OK, because my old kernel
> has this size. Following your recomendation I run make mrproper, make
> xconfig, make dep, make clean, make bzImage, make modules and make
> modules_install. Then I rename properly the kernel and run lilo.
> Everytime I get "Kernel is too big". xconfig is a great tool, but I have
> removed or changed to module all the components except the really
> needed.
>
> Can I reduce the size of the kernel in other way?
> Can I increase the allowed size of the kernel?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Al
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From: Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache Question
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:55:48 -0400
H.Bruijn wrote:
thanks
I was trying to use a dir i made /root/Desktop/web
I couldnt allow everyone to view this dir
Now it is working
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:07:03 -0400, Stuart allegedly wrote:
>>I have my web server setup but if I go to http://localhost/ i get Apache
>>screen tell me
>>Forbidden You dont have permission to access / on this server.
>>
>>Where did I mess up?
>
> The directory you have set as the root for your webserver isn't world
> accessable/readable.
> Find the httpd.conf file and check the DocumentRoot for it's permissions
> On RedHat installations it is usually /home/httpd/html on debian
> /var/www other ditricbutions it may be different.
> permissions should be at least drwx-----x for the directories, and the
> files (index.html) and others should be at least -rw----r--
>
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From: Stuart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unusual mount problem
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:04:39 -0400
you can recompile your kernel to allow NTFS support. or you might beable
to add the module in your /etc/moduleconf (does redhat's standard kernel
have that build in as a module?). I would recompile the kernel to 2.4.3.
The NTFS will be read only thou so you will have to save changes to
floppies.
Stuart
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