Linux-Setup Digest #189, Volume #20 Sat, 9 Dec 00 12:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: I need a good book on Sendmail (Gerard Schlundt)
shutdown -h now ("korner")
Uninstall Linux SuSE 7.0 ("Paul")
Re: shutdown -h now ("theguy")
Re: LG ide cd-rw on RH 6.2 (Michael Perry)
Re: Linux on Dell C600 laptop? (Michael Perry)
Re: Lilo halting at boot ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What is the command to . . . ? (Allen Wong)
SCSI setup (yyz)
Re: shutdown -h now (Adam Weeks)
Re: shutdown -h now ("Guennadi V. Liakhovetski")
Re: GNome on Caldera e-desktop ("drovar")
Re: GNome on Caldera e-desktop (Steve)
Re: Help installing Redhat on a laptop with pcmcia cd rom (DTi4565459)
Re: Trying to port a hacked CMI8330 audio setup from RH6.2 to Potato... (walt)
fasttrak66 ("Enrico Ng")
Re: What is the command to . . . ? (Colin Watson)
Re: GNome on Caldera e-desktop (Jerry McBride)
Re: Unable to partition disk in RedHat 7.0 (Tom Pfeifer)
Migration_UNIX_to_LINUX ("Jason Fawcett")
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From: Gerard Schlundt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I need a good book on Sendmail
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:37:33 GMT
Better idea -- get Postfix :)
I found that it is generally easier to set up than sendmail could ever hope to
be, plus is more spam-hostile.
Check out http://www.postfix.org
As for the o'reily books, they have been really really bad as of late. The
authors are taking no time in writing a coherant book. The code "snippts" are
too incomplete, at the very least they should be related...in my never to be
humble opinion, a code snip should DO something -- so you can play with it, and
see what it does. The snippits they use are:
1] Written in "Golf" format -- that is to say they are efficient, and usually
difficult to understand. When learning a subject, you start out a bit ugly --
work for elegance....you need to understand the basics of brush managment before
you paint a church ceiling :)
2] The segments all are missing key elements. OK, not all. Mostly, they are
missing important supporting structure.
I hate to say this, but some of the best learning books were for BASIC back in
the eaerly 80's -- they may appear to have been "stupid" then, but the fact is
they gave you the foundation. From there, you can go on to do bigger and better
things.
O'reily has sold out....I will NOT buy any of the newer books until I've sat
down for at least 2 hours with it at my local book store (Sorry amazon) and tried
to figure out if it really will help me. If you don't do that, you'll likely be
very dissapointed with any o'reily book.
I'm beating up o'reily here, primarily because they used to be the best, now they
are at the bottom of the dung heap. The entire "computer" book publishing world
(SAM, New Riders, QUE, O'Reilly, WROX) need to have their hands slapped.
Sorry for the rant...I still ghink postfix is your better mail program :)
"Prasanth A. Kumar" wrote:
> "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Anyone know of a good book for Sendmail? I am running RedHat Linux 6.2. I
> > just went out and bought "Sendmail 2nd Ed." by O'Reilly press and I know
> > that it is a good book, but is it good for a Linux 6.2 system? After all,
> > the book was published back in Jan. 1997! Is it still DA BOOK to have?
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Lamar
>
> I also would suggest the Sendmail documentation which comes as part of
> the installation. I think Red Hat keeps it in a seperate sendmail-docs
> RPM if I am not mistaken. It is not a comprehensive book but helps you
> with the basic settings.
>
> --
> Prasanth Kumar
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "korner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: shutdown -h now
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:58:18 GMT
I just installed Redhat 7. My question is, how can I turn off the computer?
When I type "shutdown -h now", it shuts down, but the computer power is
still on. I have to manually turn off the power. Thanks.
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From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Uninstall Linux SuSE 7.0
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:21:50 +0100
I have Linux 7.0 SuSE installed on a separate harddisk. My other disk is a
Windows ME disk.
Now i want to uninstall Linux..... My Windows harddisk cannot see the Linux
disk...
What procedure should I follow????????????
Please HELP HELP.....
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From: "theguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutdown -h now
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 22:25:38 -0800
u refering to the switch????
regards,
korner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:_TqY5.4239$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just installed Redhat 7. My question is, how can I turn off the
computer?
> When I type "shutdown -h now", it shuts down, but the computer power is
> still on. I have to manually turn off the power. Thanks.
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: LG ide cd-rw on RH 6.2
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:11:01 -0800
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 14:12:26 GMT, L. Ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I got a new PIII 800 with LG CED-8080B. The OS is Redhat 6.2
>with kernel upgraded to 2.2.16-3. The problem is that I couldn't
>make the LG CD-RW work with cdrecord 1.9.
>
>This is what I did:
>
>1. Kernel config
>
>CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set
>CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDSCSI=m
>
>CONFIG_SCSI=y
>CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
>CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=m
>CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
>CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR_VENDOR=y
>CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=m
>
Can you please post the results of running the lsmod command as the root
user? Particularly interested to see what is loaded prior to you running
the cdrecord --scanbus command. I did the same steps on a debian potato box
as you did and my HP ide cd-rw works pretty well. I did have to monkey
around with how the modules were loading. I also got a statement in dmesg
all the time which says this:
scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
scsi : 2 hosts.
Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 9300 Rev: 1.0b
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
The when I run cdrecord --scanbus I see this:
scsibus1:
1,0,0 100) 'HP ' 'CD-Writer+ 9300 ' '1.0b' Removable CD-ROM
1,1,0 101) *
1,2,0 102) *
1,3,0 103) *
1,4,0 104) *
1,5,0 105) *
1,6,0 106) *
1,7,0 107) *
And finally, the command /sbin/lsmod, looks thus:
Module Size Used by
sr_mod 16176 0 (autoclean)
sblive 46240 0
audiobuf 10760 0 [sblive]
uart401 7548 0 [sblive]
midi 27228 0 [uart401]
ac97 5000 0 [sblive]
soundbase 311964 0 [sblive audiobuf uart401 midi ac97]
sndshield 5236 0 [sblive audiobuf uart401 midi ac97
soundbase]
parport_pc 7556 1 (autoclean)
lp 4772 0 (autoclean)
parport 7456 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
ide-scsi 7400 0
One item worthy of note... My system has no ide devices in it whatsoever
besides the cdrw drive. Why I even messed with a ide one is a different
question :) Have you tried just manually doing an insmod on the scsi-ide
module?
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Linux on Dell C600 laptop?
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 07:17:18 -0800
On 6 Dec 2000 14:21:29 -0500, Jesse Sheidlower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>I'm about to get a Dell Latitude C600 laptop, which is not listed on
>the Linux Laptop page. Does anyone have advice on what I should expect
>to have to go through? I'm not entirely clueless about computers but I
>have no Linux experience, and I'd like to be sure I can use Linux on
>this and not have huge problems with the docking station, or the
>printer, or a CD-RW drive, or whatever. What distro would be the easiest
>for this setup?
>
>Oh, I have to dual-boot with WinNT--I know that sort of complicates
>things.
>
>Thank you.
>
>Jesse Sheidlower
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
I've been told by some folks I know at dell that the C600 runs linux quite
well. Dual booting is really not tricky but you have to make some
decisions about partitioning, etc. I would allow the NT boot loader to boot
both NT and Linux and do an NT installation first. You should read a bit
about how to set lilo up for multi-booting systems also and read the NT boot
loader mini-howto. Its pretty explicit on the commands you need to add
Linux to the NT boot loader. I don't mess with W2k so don't know how it
works in this scenario. My experience has been with the much beloved NT 4
and SP 6 and debian, suse, or redhat.
I believe that the C600 uses the ATI Rage chipset? Check it out and see
what you will need to do beforehand to get X working on it. I would print
out the specs from dell's ecommerce website and look at relevant linux
materials like on the linux laptops web page.
Are you getting the upper end one? I yearn for the C600 with a Pentium III
700, lotsa memory, 20g hard disk drive :) I use the Latitude Ls lightweight
here with debian potato and it works well. All of the devices work on the
Ls. It has a bundled 3com nic card and the actiontec modem works using the
lucent driver. I only get 800x600 at 65k color depth; but for these old
eyes, its probably enough.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lilo halting at boot
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 15:05:40 GMT
A famous problem:-)
The sollution on my system was, re�nstall LILO. LILO has a bad
reputation for a MBR: it loves to write the shit out of it and screw
it.
Go to sbin/lilo and run it. The problem was fixed. The boot problem
from 1024 is a BIOS problem adn, if the disk don't give LILO but LI,
it is not a bootproblem in the BOIS (90%).
By the way, my BIOS has no restriction shit for 1024. Don't understand
it, but i think mt BIOs handles larger bootadresses than 8bits
TurnProX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Wong)
Subject: Re: What is the command to . . . ?
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 15:22:07 GMT
In alt.os.linux.slackware Markus Amersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> What is the command to find the occurance of a string in a group of
>> files in a directory?
> find . -name '*.txt' -exec grep "Hello World" {} \;
This works, but it's alot slower than "find . -type f -name '*.txt' -print |
xargs grep "Hello World".
Allen
--
Linux: If you're not careful, you might actually learn something.
7:00am up 1 day, 10:59, 9 users, load average: 3.09, 3.04, 3.00
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From: yyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI setup
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 09:32:16 -0600
I have a BusLogic card and I have added
alias scsi_hostadapter BusLogic to the modules.conf file
the driver does not get installed.
I can run
% modprobe BusLogic
and it installs fine.
Any suggestions on how I can get the modules loaded at boot time?
Thanks
John
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From: Adam Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutdown -h now
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 15:34:57 GMT
yeah, that's been my experience too. It seems you just have to manually
turn it off after all processes end. I'd be interested if there was any
other way..
theguy wrote:
> u refering to the switch????
>
> regards,
>
> korner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:_TqY5.4239$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> I just installed Redhat 7. My question is, how can I turn off the
>
> computer?
>
>> When I type "shutdown -h now", it shuts down, but the computer power is
>> still on. I have to manually turn off the power. Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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From: "Guennadi V. Liakhovetski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutdown -h now
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 15:20:22 +0000
> I just installed Redhat 7. My question is, how can I turn off the computer?
> When I type "shutdown -h now", it shuts down, but the computer power is
> still on. I have to manually turn off the power. Thanks.
You have APM enabled in your BIOS, compiled in your kernel? Then you need
to add
append="apm=power-off"
to your /etc/lilo.conf in the required kernel section.
HTH
Guennadi
___
Dr. Guennadi V. Liakhovetski
Department of Applied Mathematics
University of Sheffield, U.K.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "drovar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNome on Caldera e-desktop
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:56:53 -0500
>
> the best gnome window manager install i've ever used is Helix Code. Easy
> install with Caldera and other distros.
>
> http://www.helixcode.com
>
> follow the download instructions and yer dun.
>
> very fast install over BB......plus kewl update utility and bug report
> tool.
>
> munke:-p
Agreed, if you want Gnome, go with Helix Code. Very easy installation.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNome on Caldera e-desktop
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:12:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* munke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> David Liana wrote:
>
> > I have downloaded all the gnome files from:
> > ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/caldera/i386/ in rpm format.
> > Installed all of them.
> > I cant load Gnome because it says its missing a libjpeg file, yet i have
> > all the jpeg libraries installed.
> >
> > Any help?
>
> the best gnome window manager install i've ever used is Helix Code. Easy
> install with Caldera and other distros.
>
> http://www.helixcode.com
>
> follow the download instructions and yer dun.
>
> very fast install over BB......plus kewl update utility and bug report
> tool.
>
> munke:-p
>
I installed helix gnome, and at the last when the splash screen came up
asking me if I wanted to make it my default wm I said no. I was lead to
believe that to start it all I had to do was type 'gdm' from
the console. However that doesn't work nor does 'gnome-session'. Seeing as
I have it installed, how do I start it from runlevel 3?
This is on a Caldera box btw.
--
Steve - Toronto
===============
work like you don't need the money
love like you've never been hurt
dance like no one's watching
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DTi4565459)
Date: 09 Dec 2000 16:09:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Help installing Redhat on a laptop with pcmcia cd rom
>
>Make sure that the install program knows where to find
>the PCMCIA driver modules, if they're external to the
>kernal. If that's not the problem, then you're out of
>luck. Practically speaking, detecting PCMCIA devices
>is too involved for a floppy disk installer.
Try Debian's floppy install, which has three "module" floppies. Worked for me
up to a point.
dave
http://www.columbia.edu/~mdt1/
(1 = one, not little L; and don't forget the trailing / )
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From: walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Trying to port a hacked CMI8330 audio setup from RH6.2 to Potato...
Date: 09 Dec 2000 08:09:06 -0800
Michael V. Ferranti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi guys,
>
> Originally, I used to have a CMI8330 HOWTO from a Slackware 2.1 setup
> that included a small C program to tweak the chip into working. I had it
> sloppily hacked into RH6.2's bootup scripts and it worked fairly well. I
> have the new HOWTO now that doesn't require the small C program, but it's
> written for RH6.1 and their /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file. Has anyone tried
> this with Debian Potato, or at least know RH6.1's order of events for
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit? I'd like to insert the following in Debian Potato
> without violating any of the policies:
>
> ># Insert into /etc/conf.modules:
> >alias sound sb
> >options sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5
> >alias midi mpu401
> >options mpu401 io=0x330 irq=10
> >alias synth opl3
> >options opl3 io=0x388
The lines above definitely belong in /etc/modutils/aliases,
after which you type (as root) update-modules. This updates
the /etc/modules.conf file for you.
>
> ># Insert into /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit at line 190:
> ># load sound modules
> >if [ -n "$USEMODULES" ]; then
> > if grep -s -q "^alias sound" /etc/conf.modules ; then
> > action "Loading sound module" modprobe sound
> > fi
> > if grep -s -q "^alias midi" /etc/conf.modules ; then
> > action "Loading midi module" modprobe midi
> > fi
> > if grep -s -q "^alias synth" /etc/conf.modules ; then
> > action "Loading synth module" modprobe synth
> > fi
> >fi
I'd say stick this stuff in a shell script in /etc/rc.boot,
where it won't be replaced with the next system update.
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From: "Enrico Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fasttrak66
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 10:28:06 -0600
I am having problems with using the promise fasttrak66 with slackware.
I have a fasttrak66 with two identical drives striped. I want to install
slackware (on a drive on my regular IDE) but the cd wont boot up all the
way.
when I try booting with ata66.i it gets to
PDC20262: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary MASTER Mode Secondary
MASTER Mode.
ide2: ...
and just hangs.
booting off the cd doesnt even get to this step.
I was wondering if anyone ever got this to work?
thanx
--
Enrico Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: What is the command to . . . ?
Date: 9 Dec 2000 16:49:20 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Bah. Removed distribution-specific groups, networking (!), hardware
(!), comp.os.linux.development.system - learn how to crosspost sensibly,
already.]
>grep -e pattern -lr ./* seems to work
That works with newer versions of grep, but if you find yourself on
older versions of Linux or on some other Unix then you'll have problems.
'find . -type f -print | xargs grep -le pattern' is a more portable
equivalent.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Lisp programs also have the advantage that very few programmers know
Lisp, so your employer will have to keep you on staff to maintain it."
- Joel Ray Holveck in Vigor, http://www.red-bean.com/~joelh/vigor/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNome on Caldera e-desktop
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 16:58:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
munke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>David Liana wrote:
>
>> I have downloaded all the gnome files from:
>> ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/stable/caldera/i386/ in rpm format.
>> Installed all of them.
>> I cant load Gnome because it says its missing a libjpeg file, yet i have
>> all the jpeg libraries installed.
>>
>> Any help?
>
>the best gnome window manager install i've ever used is Helix Code. Easy
>install with Caldera and other distros.
>
> http://www.helixcode.com
>
>follow the download instructions and yer dun.
>
I'll second that and while you're at helix... grab a copy of PAN. It's one of
the nicest newsreaders that I've seen and it's a linux native...
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From: Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to partition disk in RedHat 7.0
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2000 17:00:07 GMT
Linux itself (the kernel) supports more than one extended partition on a
drive. I've done it with one type 0F DOS extended and one type 85 Linux
extended at the same time. It doesn't even blink - it just enumerates
the logical partitions in order as you would expect it to. This is at
least true of the 2.2.XX kernel. I haven't tried it with 2.0.XX.
However, no Linux partitioning program that I've seen will create or
acknowledge the 2nd one. The only partitioning program (that I know of)
that fully supports doing this is Bootit NG. It will create more than
one extended partition per drive (any type extended), and will also
create the logical partition(s) inside them.
Win9X/ME does not have a problem with this. It just treats the type 85
extended as a non-DOS primary and ignores it, the same as it ignores all
non-DOS partitions.
Of course, whether it makes any sense to do this in the first place is
up to the individual....
Tom
Eric en Jolanda wrote:
>
> > In general, of the four entries in a standard partition
> > table, only one can be of type extended. This is in general.
> > You could try, however, making that fourth partition a type
> > 85 Linux extended and see what happens. I don't think this
> > will work, by default, though.
>
> Don't try it. It is not allowed, and even if you would succeed, there's
> absolutely no guarantee that any of the OS's on that PC will make the right
> use of the partition table. This means you cannot store data there, as it
> may be overwritten anytime. Don't make mor ethan one extended partition. (I
> doubt there's a tool that will let you do this)
>
> >You can try Mikhail Ranish's
> > Partition Manager to see if this will allow you to get
> > around this restriction. It's been some time since I've used
> > it or looked at it so I'm not certain any longer. In any eve
> > nt, Mikhail's pages are an excellent reference on
> > partitioning and you should read them for your own
> > edification.Access the page through:
> >
>
> If you want more partitions, grow hda2. Use either Partition Magic for this,
> or the free tool parted (from GNU).
>
> Eric
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From: "Jason Fawcett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Migration_UNIX_to_LINUX
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2000 11:04:34 -0600
I am looking at the possibility of migrating our Sybase from our NCR
platform over to Linux due to NCR announcing it will no longer provide
support at the new year on that product.
1) Can Sybase (and all our stored data) be migrated from Unix to Linux?
2) Is there a preferred Linux flavor to use?
3) Where would I begin?
I appreciate any help on the subject,
Thanks,
Jason
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