Linux-Setup Digest #189, Volume #21               Tue, 8 May 01 18:13:17 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux reads only first session from a multi session CD 
(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Re: Oh no! /proc is missing. (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Re: Linux under this PC? ("Mike Buckley")
  Re: potato with reiserfs..... (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  email server setup (EPIC Products Int'l Corp)
  Re: 2.2.18 -> 2.2.19 panic (Michael Heiming)
  Re: avoiding USB support at start-up (Kenneth Crudup)
  Re: R: avoiding USB support at start-up (Kenneth Crudup)
  Re: .tar.gz ("Kevin Doyle")
  Partitioning Software ("Dono")
  Installing PCTel Modem on RH7.1 ("Ian G. Lisle")
  Re: x includes (Craig Kelley)
  Netfilter, IPtables... what the heck is going on? (grooveman)
  Re: LILO 1024 cylinder limit (Tom Young)
  Re: vga = ask (olgnuby)
  Re: cannot change permission on dirs on a new partition. (H.Bruijn)
  Re: LILO 1024 cylinder limit (Bill Unruh)

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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.support
Subject: Re: Linux reads only first session from a multi session CD
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:13:15 +0200

On Tue, 8 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> After reading a few articles I understand that Linux (in my case
> Mandrake 8.0, kernel 2.4.3) STILL reads the first session from a
> multi-session CD in stead of the last session (indeed it does after
> testing). This means I can't read my CD-R I made containing two
> sessions, because only the file-listing of the first session is shown.
> Using the -o session=xx only gives me an error message that the session
> does not exists, but it does, because in Windows the CD is read in full
> (all files in both sessions). So it's not a hardware issue, but
> typically a Linux problem.

Perhaps you need to turn on vendor specific extensions. If you have a
scsi cd drive, you can try to recompile your kernel and enable those
extensions, that are needed to use multisession cd's on some drives.

Rasmus

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-- [ Rasmus 'M�ffe' B�g Hansen ] --------------------------------------
Beware of bugs in the above code;
I have only proved it correct, not tried it.
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh no! /proc is missing.
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:16:28 +0200

On 8 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Is there any way of rebuilding /var? Unfortunately it isn't just a mount
> point like the others. It should actually contain information. Am I out of

In your original post, you wrote, that you copied everything to a new
filesystem. You could take /var from there.

Rasmus

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From: "Mike Buckley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux under this PC?
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:20:02 GMT

Your best bet is to check out the web sites of the individual distributions
(Mandarke, Caldera, Red Hat, etc). Each of these have lists showing the
compatible hardware that the particular distribution will work with. Then,
if you want to use two operating systems (which I would reccomend until you
get used to Linux) back-up your hard drive and then prtition it into halves
and insall Linux on the other partition. Though I have never done it from
what I have read running Linux from within Windows is very slow and not an
exact representation of the function of the operating system. This is what I
did with my system and when I turn it on I can chose which operating system
I would like to boot.
Hope this helps
Mike Buckley

Tim ... <usenet_bounce@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:9d9ec2$tjf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a dual boot Windows 98 / 2000 pro non-networked system :
>
> Soyo 6CVA system board with VIA chipset
> 20GB HDD
> PCI ISDN adapter (AVC?)
> ATI 128 Rage AGP card
> On board sound (VIA audio)
> HP 9100 series CD-RW
> HP Deskjet 840C printer
> Mouse & Keyboard.
>
> Complete beginner with Linux.
> Very concerned about screwing up my current set-up, which is proving to be
> very reliable.
> Will my hardware work under Linux?
> I'm more concerned about learning Linux than the non-essential hardware
> (like CD-RW) not working.
>
> I understand Mandrake installs within Windows?
> So you would boot into Windows, and then 'into' Mandrake?
>
> Any help/advice would be very welcome.
>
>
>
>
>
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: potato with reiserfs.....
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:27:59 +0200

On 8 May 2001, Pun Kuan Tou wrote:

> I update my kernel 2.2.19 to support reiserfs now!
> but I want to rebuild my "/" directory ...
> can I do it? and how??

You can. Get a minimal installation on a spare partition (or a reiserfs
aware rescue system).

Now copy everything (eg. with tar) to the spare partition. Unmount the
old partition. Format the old partition with mkreiserfs. Mount the
reiserfs partition. Copy all data back to the reiserfs partition.

Now edit fstab to use reiserfs for / and not to fsck it. Also edit
lilo.conf to make the kernel read-write the fs (else log replay won't
work). Reboot.

If you do not have a spare partition or a backup media, you cannot do
this (ie you cannot convert ext2 to reiserfs).

Rasmus

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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 15:37:26 -0500
From: EPIC Products Int'l Corp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: email server setup

I am trying to set up an email server using redhat 7.  As it stands now,
I can send email outgoing using netscape as my email client, and that
mail will be recieved by it's intended addressee.  If that person hits
reply, and sends a message to me, it will not bounce, but the mail will
never appear in my email client's inbox (i'm using netscape as my email
client).

HELP!

thanks,

Max




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Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 22:38:15 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.18 -> 2.2.19 panic

Dirk Emmermacher wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> after upgrade to 2.2.19 on Suse-Linux firewall, I've following message
> on booting: VFS: Unable to mount root fs 03:01
> 
> What can I do? The System.map file was already copied to /boot...

Doesn't really matter, it's (mostly) for debugging purposes, read "man
klogd", the
old kernel should just work.

Michael Heiming

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: avoiding USB support at start-up
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:38:09 GMT

In article <JA8J6.22700$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Massimo Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:

>The main problem is that, approximately 70% of the times, my laptop would
>not boot at all, freezing when loading the usb-ohci module (I have a NEC
>Corporation USB controller, rev 01) or, if that step is passed, it
>freezes when mounting the USB filesystem, or later, when checking for new
>hardware.

Does your setup work under Windows OK? I use my USB Zip all the time with
no problems (iNtel UHCI, alternate controller). You could have hardware
problems.

        -Kenny

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Kenneth R. Crudup   Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914               Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217  Fremont, CA 94536-7525          (510) 745-8181
Work:  See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers!       (510) 745-0101

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: R: avoiding USB support at start-up
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Crudup)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:39:22 GMT

In article <%OiJ6.28557$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Massimo Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:

>More generally, I would like to ask how to manage the modules that are to be
>loaded at boot time, if modules are available.

man modprobe

In fact, this is how I do it. I have core USB support compiled into my 
kernels (UHCI controller only), then I "modprobe" every component I need
into the system as I need it.

        -Kenny

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Kenneth R. Crudup   Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C.
Home1: PO Box 914               Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217  Fremont, CA 94536-7525          (510) 745-8181
Work:  See: "Home2". The hell with slow Bay Area drivers!       (510) 745-0101

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Reply-To: "Kevin Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Kevin Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .tar.gz
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:53:18 +0100

thank you!
"The Snowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:L1YJ6.757$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> tar -zxvf somefile.tar.gz
>
> "Kevin Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:wWXJ6.14993$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > HI
> > I downloaded samba 2.2 today but it was like this samba.tar.gz
> > What commands do I use to un tar & un gz it?
> > Thanks,
> > Kevin.
> >
> >
>
>



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From: "Dono" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partitioning Software
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 20:55:01 GMT

Can someone recommend a single program that can partition linux, fat and
ntfs partitions.  I have a 30 gig hard drive and wish to put RedHat 7.1, Win 2k Pro
Server, and Win 98 on it.  Any advice is appreciated.  
Also any recomendations as to what partitions I should make for Linux.
/
/boot
/home
/usr
/swap

etc............

TIA

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From: "Ian G. Lisle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing PCTel Modem on RH7.1
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:19:44 +0100

Hi all,

I recently upgraded to RH 7.1 (kernel 2.4.2-2) in the hope that my modem
would be better supported (in 7.0 it would say it was dialling but just sit
there and hold the phone line up until I rebooted the machine).

The PCTel chipset is on an internal "PCI" modem within my laptop, I have
downloaded pctel-2.4.tar.gz from Thomas Wright's site at
http://www.geocities.com/tom_in_rc/
This archive contains the following files:
/pctel-2.4/readme.txt

/pctel-2.4/lib/control.a
/pctel-2.4/lib/dsp.a
/pctel-2.4/lib/hal.a
/pctel-2.4/lib/pctel.o

/pctel-2.4/src/module/halwraps.h
/pctel-2.4/src/module/Makefile
/pctel-2.4/src/module/pctel.diff
/pctel-2.4/src/module/pctel.h
/pctel-2.4/src/module/ptserial.c
/pctel-2.4/src/module/ptserial.o

I have recompiled the module pctel.o with make clean; make and then inserted
it using insmod but this causes my serial ports to stop responding to
statserial.  I have tried various methods used to install older versions on
my 2.2.16-22 kernel but I cannot get it to work at all - does anyone have
any ideas?

TIA

Ian G. Lisle
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







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From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: x includes
Date: 08 May 2001 15:20:02 -0600

"herwig verbeke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When running ./configure to install some packages I get an error message
> saying that X includes can not be found.
> 
> I understand I need some development libraries. Can anyone tell me which
> packages I need.

You need the XFree86 development package (XFree86-devel under RedHat
and xlib6g-dev/xlibs-dev under Debian)

-- 
It won't be long before the CPU is a card in a slot on your ATX videoboard
Craig Kelley  -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block

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From: grooveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux.redhat,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Netfilter, IPtables... what the heck is going on?
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:21:33 GMT

Hi.

I have been struggling with this for several days now.

I installed RH 7.1 to act as my gateway/router using IP masq for my
internal machines.

Low and behold, what do I find -- RH 7.1 kernel 2.4.x does not like to
support ipchains!  Now, I know, I know... It has legacy support for
this, however, I could not get ip_always_defrag and ip_masq_ftp going on
it.  I have tried the stock kernel, and even recompiled my own -- and I
configured just about every networking option as a module, and these did
not show up anywhere on my system.

Ipchains is not much use to me if I can't use ftp!  I looked around on
the web and lurked in groups and found people with the same problem --
but no real solutions were offered.

So I made it my mission to learn iptables --which IS natively supported
by 2.4.x.  After going nuts looking for ipnatctl (which is referenced in
the iptables-howto), I finally found out that it has been incorporated
into iptables (only lost a day or two there!)  So, how do I masq with
iptables?  I looked around some more and found that the homesite of
NETFILTER doesn't appear to be functioning (at least in the last few
days) http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org .

So -- My question is this:  How the heck are we supposed to know what to
do with iptables?  The man page is almost useless here... it is simply
too complex to contain in one man.

Also:  Can anyone tell me how to get my machine to masq without having a
forward policy of ACCEPT?

Also:  What is the equivalent in IPTABLES of ipchains with a -y flag?

IS THERE ANYWHERE A PERSON CAN GO TO ON THE WEB, OR IN THE BOOKSTORE TO
LEARN HOW TO USE THIS TOOL?

I know that I cannot be the only one frustrated with this.

Thank you all!  (I feel a litte better now :0)   )

Chris



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From: Tom Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: LILO 1024 cylinder limit
Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:30:35 GMT

Robert Lafleur wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to install Red Hat Linux on a partition past the 1024 cylinder.
> From what I understand LILO must be installed either:
> 
> 1.  In the first 1024 block of the HDD
> 2.  In the first ~8GB of the HDD if the BIOS can abstract disk sectors for
> LILO
> 
> Is this correct?  I'm trying to install LILO entirely within a partition
> beginning around the 13th GB.  Am I going to have to create a small
> partition for /boot?  I don't want to shift my partitions around with
> Partition Magic.  Any comments are appreciated.

You might consider installing a separate HD for Linux.

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From: olgnuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vga = ask
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:47:32 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> I finally found out (in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/svga.txt) that
> the hex mode numbers need to be converted to decimal for lilo.conf,
> hence,
> 
> "vga = 290"  =  beautiful screen  :O)
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> H.
> 
> 
> PS  While we're on the subject though, I fail to see why I can get all
> these nice possible screen modes with with an 8MB ATI Rage Pro, when
> not half as many are possible after a scan on my other machine which
> has a 32MB Matrox G400 Max....(!)   It's all black magic to me.....
> 
 Aragggggh! Dunno why I didn't think of that also in my response to you. I 
got caught in the same trap the first time around. ;-) 

Good to hear all is okay.

I use an STB Velocity 128 with 8 meg vid ram. Don't get into games, so I've 
got pretty good crisp video at 24 bbp under the latest Xfree86 version at 
1280x1024. I can only get 1024x768 under Win with out a grainy, lined 
affect. 

Black magic. Dunno. I think sometimes it's like the old chief in "Little 
Big Man" said. "Some days the magic works. Some days it don't."

Now if I can just read my USB flash memory cards under Linux some way, I 
think I'll go on and brillo my Windows clean. ;-)

Charlie

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.Bruijn)
Subject: Re: cannot change permission on dirs on a new partition.
Date: 8 May 2001 22:05:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 8 May 2001 21:06:54 +0200, you allegedly wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>I really hope someone out there can help me out!
>I'm running Redhat 6.2 and I have 3 disk in my box.
>
>The second and third disk which are formattet with linux native (83) are
>accessible and all but I can't change the permissions on newly created dirs.
>????
>I have logged in as root, but it says access denied everytime I try to
>change the group owner. When I try to change permission on the owner it does
>nothing at all.
>I want to change the group owner and the group permissions but it wont.
>
>What is wrong with my settings?

Maybe the discs are mounted read-only? Check the relevant entries in
/etc/fstab or the current settings in /etc/mtab.

Second you can't mount discs, but only partitions, so mounting /dev/hdc is
impossible, but you can mount /dev/hdc1

-- 
If a trainstation is the place where trains stop, what is a workstation?
========================================================================
Herman Bruijn                         website:   http://hermanbruijn.com
The Netherlands 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: LILO 1024 cylinder limit
Date: 8 May 2001 22:06:47 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]Robert Lafleur wrote:
]> 
]> I'm trying to install Red Hat Linux on a partition past the 1024 cylinder.
]> From what I understand LILO must be installed either:
]> 
]> 1.  In the first 1024 block of the HDD
]> 2.  In the first ~8GB of the HDD if the BIOS can abstract disk sectors for
]> LILO

?? lilo is usually the boot loader installed in the Master Boot Record
(MBR) of the first disk. Then, old versions of lilo, or old versions of
the bios, demanded that the program to be loaded by lilo (vmlinuz in the
case of Linux) must reside below the 1024 cyl. Later versions of the
bios could reference raw disk sectors beyond this number, and the latest
versions of Lilo can use these.

Alternatively, lilo can be installed somewhere else than the MBR. But
then whatever boot loader and the bios, must be capable of loading from
beyond the 1024 cyl.

So, if LILO is in the MBR and if you have a new computer (post about
1999) then you can get the latest version of lilo, and install it
and boot from wherever. 
The limitation on lilo was a limitation imposed by the bios, which must
be used to initially boot up (since the Linux file system does not fit
into the MBR).

]> Is this correct?  I'm trying to install LILO entirely within a partition
]> beginning around the 13th GB.  Am I going to have to create a small
]> partition for /boot?  I don't want to shift my partitions around with
]> Partition Magic.  Any comments are appreciated.

As I said, it depends on what you mean.

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