Linux-Setup Digest #214, Volume #20 Wed, 13 Dec 00 03:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: windows VFAT partitions too fat?! (David Efflandt)
Suse Linux for Alpha Installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
xterm and using backspace (Alan)
Re: xterm and using backspace (Alan)
undo partitions
Why do I see a directory listing instead of my web page??? ("Dan Krones")
Re: Hardware openions, and or comments (joe crouse)
Partitioning my computer (Michael Yuen)
Re: Why do I see a directory listing instead of my web page??? (Steve Bradley)
Re: Netscape 6 for linux (Steve Bradley)
Re: LIL- Dead after Kernel Compile on NT Duel Boot Laptop?? ("Kousik Nandy")
Re: shutdown -h now (Steve Bradley)
Re: Backup - Tape - Dump (James Bilitski)
Re: Partitioning my computer (Eric)
Re: nasty hd? partition? problem (Eric)
Re: mounting ntfs as read only to everyone (Eric)
Re: How to solve "Partition entry not found"? (Eric)
Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot (Tom Szczesniak)
Re: Dual Boot Blues (Eric)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: windows VFAT partitions too fat?!
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:12:37 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 23:59:56 +0200, Gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>Since this has turned into an academic debate I would just like
>to post how i finally managed to get around this problem, in case
>this might help someone in the future.
>
>Here's what finally worked (not that i fully understand what went on)
>an excerpt from my 'me and my linux' diary i keep under the pillow:
>
>
> 1. when creating the extended parttion using linux fdisk
> it is assigned type 05.
> this worked fine with the 'old' disk - it had one linux logic
> and two windows. except the second windows (8GB) was not
> recognized by linux. and WORSE Svend Olaf Mikkelsen told
> me this is the wrong type and might damage my system.
> With or without connection - that hard disk DIED after 3 months!
Not sure what you are saying about the old disk or why it died, but I have
successfully mixed Linux and FAT32 logical partitions in an extended
partition. I did use the extended type that Win98 originally called it.
> 2. Indeed if you let windows create the extended partition it then
> shows as type 0f. But then it seems that if you place a linux
> logic there - windows 'recognizes' it and messes with it.
> (at least when you place it before the windows logic).
Windows should not mess with partitions that are not its type. But
Windows will step all over BSD if you try to create a FAT partition after
a BSD slice. I believe that this is because you can only have 1 extended
partition, and a BSD slice looks like one.
The following has been working fine with Mandrake 7.0 on my laptop for
almost a year now (with 192 MB RAM I don't need swap):
Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1099 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 653 5245191 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda2 * 654 655 16065 83 Linux /boot LILO
/dev/hda3 656 1099 3566430 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5 656 872 1743021 83 Linux /
/dev/hda6 873 897 200781 83 Linux was swap, now /var
/dev/hda7 898 1099 1622533+ b Win95 FAT32
> 3. Eventually the following worked:
> 1. partitioned the disk using a linux boot into 3 primaries:
> windows (must be first!), linux, linux swap.
Windows does not have to be first. On hda of my main PC I have (2) /boot
partitions first and either or both can have LILO. Win98 FAT32 C: is 3rd,
then an extended partition for everything else.
> 2. installed windows on hda1.
> 3. installed linux on hda2.
> 4. let *windows* fdisk add the extended, and made several under
> 4GB logicals within it.
> 5. added these to the linux /etc/fstab - they work fine.
> bottom line:
> a. i gave up on adding a linux logical (ie. have one big fat linux).
> b. i let windows create and manage the extended.
I agree that any extended partition you intend to use for Windows should
be created by Windows. And it probably works best to put one big logical
partition in that first. But once that is done you can remove the logical
partition with Linux fdisk and split it up like you want it. As long as
the Linux partitions are type 82 or 83, Windows should leave them alone.
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David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Suse Linux for Alpha Installation
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:05:34 GMT
Hi all,
Recently, we procured Suse linux 7.0 for DEC Alpha 1000A 5/333.
As per manual this machine falls under NORITAKE-PRIMO, Boot image name
is aboot_xx
As per the installation manual, we were unable to load suse linux on
the same. The reasons being,
Boot image floppy we created as per the instructions in the manual
contains 3 files i.e.,
* linuxboot
* /etc/aboot.conf
* vz_full.gz.
whereas alpha bios setup contains as per suse reference manual:
* boot name Linux_von_Floppy_Boot
* boot file A:\Linload
* os path cd and CD:
* os options boot fd0:vmlinux.gz root=/dev/fd0 fake_initrd
These parameters are mismatching with reference manual parameters.
Presently, the said machine is running firmware 5.8 which is loaded in
1997.
Please advise me what to do for installation of suse alpha linux
Whether firmware upgradation is needed, if needed where it is
available? Specify any site reference or mail or ftp location.
Any additional steps are required to update the alpha system. please
specify clearly.
Any methods for installation using Redhat linux for Alpha may also be
suggested
Thanking you
--
rkamirapu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan)
Subject: xterm and using backspace
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:20:20 GMT
I realized I posted a question earlier about this, but I cannot seem
to get backspace working in my xterminals.
I use connect to my RH7 linux box using my PC. I am currently using
bash and my backspace or delete key (along with any combination of
ctrl or alt) doesn't move the cursor or delete the previous character.
If i switch to csh, i can press backspace and get "~".
has anyone had this problem before? i've been trying to get this
working for quite a while, but haven't come across a solution that
works.
(if I telnet or ssh in, i can use backspace)
Could somebody please suggest something? Any response would be most
appreciated!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan)
Subject: Re: xterm and using backspace
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:24:08 GMT
also, if i type stty, i get
speed 38400 baud; line = 0;
erase = ^H; <- therefore i can delete using ^H
-brkint -imaxbel
Can I change this somehow?
in my env variables,
TERM=xterm
(and I tried TERM=gnome)
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:20:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Alan) wrote:
>I realized I posted a question earlier about this, but I cannot seem
>to get backspace working in my xterminals.
>
>I use connect to my RH7 linux box using my PC. I am currently using
>bash and my backspace or delete key (along with any combination of
>ctrl or alt) doesn't move the cursor or delete the previous character.
>
>If i switch to csh, i can press backspace and get "~".
>
>has anyone had this problem before? i've been trying to get this
>working for quite a while, but haven't come across a solution that
>works.
>
>(if I telnet or ssh in, i can use backspace)
>
>Could somebody please suggest something? Any response would be most
>appreciated!!
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: undo partitions
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:30:07 -0000
I tried to install Mandrake Linux on a win98 HP Pavilion PC. The Partition
Manager that came with Mandrake used 2 GB out of a 4GB hard-disk for linux.
However, the installation failed completely & I had to reinstall Windows.
However, windows still only sees 2GB out of my original 4GB hard-disk. I
re-formatted my C drive using HP's recovery program, re-installed Win98 and
still the same problem. When I do fdisk it tells me that there is only 1
FAT32 partition with 4GB, so there is nothing for me to delete there.
How would I get back the 2GB that i lost to linux?
I appreciate any feedback.
Thanks.
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From: "Dan Krones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Why do I see a directory listing instead of my web page???
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:36:50 GMT
Running Apache 1.3.12. I think I set up the httpd.conf file correctly to
point to my index page. But I just get a directory listing. Any ideas???
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.pdsvs.com
949-367-1212
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From: joe crouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardawe,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.ibm-pc.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Hardware openions, and or comments
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 06:36:38 GMT
yes it is it does 1, 0 and 1+0
William Fong wrote:
> I'd stay away from the RAID setup. It's not a 'true' RAID. Do you really
> need it? You only listed one hard drive.
>
> Nice setup though!
>
> --
>
> ______________________________
> William Fong - www.digitaldev.com
>
> "Antonio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:wMkU5.25608$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I want to by a new box, to dual boot linux and win 2000. Will do games and
> > possibly a server in the future. I have $2000 US.
> > Any and all comments will be appreciated.
> >
> > AMD Athlon Socket A 1100 Thunderbird - Retail Box $385.00,
> > 256MB 32X72 PC133 ECC (Lifetime Warranty) $212.00,
> > ABIT KT7-RAID AMD Socket A $150.75,
> > Ricoh CD-RW 6X4X24 + 4X DVD Int IDE - Retail Box $221.00,
> > SoundBlaster Live Value $55.25,
> > 3COM Fast Etherlink 3C905C w/Remote Wakeup $44.25,
> > Windows 2000 OEM Professional $132.75,
> > IBM 46.1GB Deskstar75GXP 7200RPM Ultra ATA/66+ 2MB $173.00,
> > ASUS AGP-V7700 64MB Pure GeForce2 GTS - Retail Box $328.25,
> > Enlight EN-72370X3A 300W HPS-300-101 AMD APPROVED $62.00,
> > Install CPU/Memory - Set Mainboard Jumpers $7.50,
> > Assemble Parts/Load Software/Burn-In $45.00
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Yuen)
Subject: Partitioning my computer
Date: 13 Dec 2000 06:39:51 GMT
Does anyone know where I can find some good fool-proof instructions on
partitioning my Win98 machine and installing Linux. I found some
instructions at one time but idiot me didn't print or bookmark it at the
time.
Can anyone help me out?
--
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From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why do I see a directory listing instead of my web page???
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:01:21 GMT
Dan Krones wrote:
> Running Apache 1.3.12. I think I set up the httpd.conf file correctly to
> point to my index page. But I just get a directory listing. Any ideas???
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.pdsvs.com
> 949-367-1212
>
>
At a guess:
If you setup a web page on an Apache server and then http to that page
without specifying the name of the html file to load (e.g.: www.pdsvs.com,
instead of www.pdsvs.com/myindex.html) Apache attempts to locate and serve
the 'index.html' file. If that file does not exist, it shows a directory
structure instead.
This is a known feature, and it's really quite useful - on my site for
example, there is a members document download area. The documents change
frequently, and rather than build an HTML page with all of the names and
subdirectories and have to build HREF links and constantly maintain them, I
just put a directory name 'member_docs' on my server. Inside the directory
I put any number of sub-directories and/or files, but NOT an 'index.html'
file. Now, when you click the Member Docs button on the web page, it HREFS
you to the member_docs directory - without specifying an html file to load
- and Apache quite convienently creates a directory listing complete with
icons and displays it, without me having to do anything at all. That is
what you're seeing on your page.
Add an index.html file, or specify a file to load, and that will change.
--
Steve Bradley
Registered Linux User#187404
(register at www.linuxcounter.org)
ICQ#19864616
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From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6 for linux
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:08:32 GMT
John Peach wrote:
> ...and having got it working, whether you will want to keep it is
> another question entirely. It's even more bloated and slow than version
> 4.
Amen. What a disappointment.
For better, bloat free browsing, I use Opera 4 (the beta's are coming along
nicely) and/or Konquerer.
When I really need a full-featured browser, I've been using beonex
(www.beonex.com). It's based on the NS6 code, but seems to be a bit faster
loading and have a (somewhat) smaller footprint. It also doesn't attempt
to make you register with Netcenter, or any of that bull.
Oh, I haven't seen your specific error before, but I did find that NS6 does
not run all that well from a 'central' directory. It seems to prefer to be
installed seperately into each users account. If you are going to install
it centrally, make sure it's in a directory that every potential user has
full read-write-execute priviiages to.
--
Steve Bradley
Registered Linux User#187404
(register at www.linuxcounter.org)
ICQ#19864616
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From: "Kousik Nandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LIL- Dead after Kernel Compile on NT Duel Boot Laptop??
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:20:35 +0530
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Phillip J. Allen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since I am booting the machine with the Windows NT OS Loader must I
> make a new boot sector to pass over to my c:\ drive? If so why did my
> earlier kernel work?
I do not know how your previous kernel worked, but it seems to me
that you should again pass the 512 bytes to NT Bootloader. From the
doc I see LIL- means: The descriptor table is corrupt, This can either
be caused by a geometry mismatch or by moving /boot/map without
running the map installer.
I hope things get corrected for you soon,
Kousik
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From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutdown -h now
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:16:45 GMT
korner wrote:
> I just installed Redhat 7. My question is, how can I turn off the
> computer? When I type "shutdown -h now", it shuts down, but the computer
> power is still on. I have to manually turn off the power. Thanks.
>
>
>
Find out what sort of power management your BIOS supports (APM or APCI) and
make sure it's enabled in your BIOS. Then 'make xconfig' (or menuconfig)
and see if it's enabled in your kernel. On my kernel (2.4.0) it's under
General Setup. I've got both ACPI and APM turned on, as my BIOS supports
both, and I'm not sure which one it actually uses to turn off the machine
with.
Of course, if you change the kernel, you have to recompile and install it
(sorry, but I don't know how new you are!).
If you've done both those things and it still won't turn off, you can try
the kernel option 'Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off'. It's under
the APM section of the kernel config (on 2.4 kernels, I'm not sure about
2.2).
And don't forget to give Dr. G's 'append="apm=power-off"' addition to LILO
a try to! (I don't use this myself, apparently my hardware doesn't require
it - yours might!)
--
Steve Bradley
Registered Linux User#187404
(register at www.linuxcounter.org)
ICQ#19864616
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From: James Bilitski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup - Tape - Dump
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 02:19:53 -0800
Yes - I use no rewind nst0
However the script manually erases the tape.
I just need a good script to run it in inrcrementals.
I also need a way to dump files from multiple partitions.
Ed Vigmond wrote:
> James Bilitski wrote:
> > I also can get incrementals to work to the script rewinds and erases the
> > tape each time.
> >
>
> Are you using the norewind device, i.e. /dev/nst0 an d not /dev/st0?
>
> ========================
> Dr. Edward Vigmond
> Department of Biomedical Engineering
> Tulane University
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning my computer
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:34:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Yuen wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where I can find some good fool-proof instructions on
> partitioning my Win98 machine and installing Linux. I found some
> instructions at one time but idiot me didn't print or bookmark it at the
> time.
>
Uhmmmmm lets see.....
You want to know HOWTO PARTITION your disc?
I'd guess, uhmmmmmmm..... "The partitioning howto" :-)
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: nasty hd? partition? problem
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:46:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michael Fan wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> First my sys info:
> A7V+Athlon900+DiamondMax Plus 45 UDMA100 (53073H4-30.7G, attached on ATA100
> IDE)
> RH7.0. 2.2.16-22 (tried 2.4-pre11 yesterday and the problem remains:)
> (pass ide2=0x9400, -0x9002 for 2.2.16-22 to use hde. for 2.4-pre11
> doesn't need to. But I haven't got usb mouse working for pre11.)
> Windows 98
>
> bash#fdisk -l /dev/hde
> Disk /dev/hde: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3736 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hde1 * 3 257 2048287+ b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hde2 1 2 16033+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hde3 258 1915 13317885 5 Extended
> /dev/hde4 1916 3736 14627182+ b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hde5 258 290 265041 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hde6 291 673 3076416 83 Linux
> /dev/hde7 674 1915 9976333+ 83 Linux
Bit of a bad table I'd say.
hde1 and two are reversed, and hde3 is of the wrong type.
hde4 is again mislocated and should be hde7, while hde4-hde7 should
all be shifted down one location. To relocate the partitions, you can
use any
linux fdisk. Delete all the partitions and recreate them in the right
order.
Your new table should look like this:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hde1 1 2 16033+ 83 Linux
/dev/hde2 * 3 257 2048287+ b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hde3 258 1915 13317885 f Extended
/dev/hde4 258 290 265041 82 Linux swap
/dev/hde5 291 673 3076416 83 Linux
/dev/hde6 674 1915 9976333+ 83 Linux
/dev/hde7 1916 3736 14627182+ b Win95 FAT32
I'd guess most problems will be solved when you alter this.
Usually this goes without errors, but if you can, back-up any important
data.
The fact that the ext2 FS gets corrupted has to do with this. Linux and
Windows
don't use the same table, due to the fact that hda3 has the wrong ID.
Perhaps the
bad ordering of partitions is also a cause of problems.
After you reordered, linux will not boot. Make a boot disc to solve
this.
Adjust fstab just before you reshuffle, and boot from the floppy, with
root=/dev/hdeXXX option.
Now adjust lilo.conf and rerun /sbin/lilo.
Now when you reboot, linux should be bootable again.
Run fsck's on ALL partitions. The bad table will have caused partition
boundaries to be on
locations where you didn't expect them, so FS's may have overlapped
(and probably did, because you had FS troubles)
So back-up what you can, cross your fingers and good luck.
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: mounting ntfs as read only to everyone
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:47:07 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terry Caton wrote:
>
> Greetings,
> I have what should be a simple question here. I have a Windows 2000 NTFS
> partition I'd like to make available over the network (samba, FTP, telnet,
> etc.). I have successfullly mounted the partition by compiling read only
> support into the kernel, and adding the entry to fstab, but it is mounted as
> read only to root, but no one else. Doing a chmod results in an error
> stating 'read only filesystem'. So how do I mount this thing as read only to
> everyone? Thanks,
>
take a look at the manpage of mount. Pay specific attention to the umask
option
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to solve "Partition entry not found"?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:50:00 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Diviner Chan wrote:
>
> I have installed RedHat 7.0 and my NT partition can't boot
> again. So I double check the lilo.conf. I found that my NT's
> partition is /dev/hdb2 and that has an entry in lilo.conf pointed
> to it already. But when I gave "lilo" to activate the config file,
> I get an error:
> "Partition entry not found"
> So how to solve it?
>
try
lilo -vv
Perhaps you get more specific info now.
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Szczesniak)
Subject: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 07:31:54 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot
After reading the package of Mandrake 7.0 which contains Boot Magic
and Partition Magic, which I have used once, I bought 7.2 with it's
"easy dual boot" feature.
Well no easy dual boot feature is there. In the 'desktop' version or
"Complete" I go straight to DiskDrake, the partitioner and I'm not
familiar with it.
No documentation or web pages at Mandrakes web site for this option.
The more expensive options offer it.
I've got a 20GB hard drive with Windows 98, using up about 4GB, 64MB
ram and want to dual boot. Is there a step by step for doing this? I
need a step by step to resize the existing Windows partion to, say
10GB and then set up the ext2 and swap partitions on the newly formed
partion. Then have the dual boot option come up. I've done this once
with Partition Magic and Boot Magic.
Thanks.
Tom Szc....
at thomasz@jef(nospamminallowed)fnet.org
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Boot Blues
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:57:36 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill Courtney wrote:
>
> Aloha kakou,
>
> I am trying to get Linux to peacefully coexist with Win2000 - already
> have 2000 loaded - trying to add Linux.
>
> I have a 20gb drive. The first 9gb is a partition for Win 2000, then a
> 1gb Win 2000 partition, then a 2gb ext2 partition, then a 250mb swap
> partition. The rest of the drive is unused.
>
> Linux installs to the ext2 partition with no problems. However, no dual
> boot options appear.
>
> Any help before I harm myself would be greatly appreciated. Please
> respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Where does it not appear?
Have you tried to add it?
NT is not recognized by default, 'cause the auto-lilo configuring
appearantly only looks for DOS partition ID's
Eric
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