Linux-Setup Digest #220, Volume #20              Thu, 14 Dec 00 06:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Print Header and Footer in Netscape for Linux ("Yoke, Meng Kim")
  linux Assembler (Roger)
  e-smith server and gateway ("Leonie")
  error: no space left on the device ("Veronica Morales")
  Kernel Panic, Please Help...I am Panicking Too ("Jason Stuart")
  Re: linux Assembler (Roger)
  Re: error: no space left on the device (David Keyes)
  Auto shutoff of the monitor at the graphical login...How? (David Bell)
  can anyone recommend a newsreader? (Jythexinvok)
  Re: winmodem (David Punsalan)
  quickcam (jinp)
  debian and netscape (David Richard Larochelle)
  Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot (Eric)
  Re: Kernel Panic, Please Help...I am Panicking Too (Eric)
  Help setting up RedHat 6.1 or 6.2 (Jared MacLeod)
  Installing StarOffice 5.2 (Newbie) ("Paul Beattie")
  Re: Installing StarOffice 5.2 (Newbie) ("Paul Beattie")
  Re: error: no space left on the device (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Kernel ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Help adding second hard drive (Keith)
  Re: Installing StarOffice 5.2 (Newbie) (Daz)
  Re: can anyone recommend a newsreader? (Daz)
  Re: Dual Boot Blues (Daz)
  Re: Installing StarOffice 5.2 (Newbie) ("Paul Beattie")
  Re: Need Help with PASSWD! Urgent! (Michael Heiming)

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From: "Yoke, Meng Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Print Header and Footer in Netscape for Linux
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:05:17 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi !

I just migrate from Microsoft Windows 95 to Linux.
I had installed both RedHat 6.2 and Mandrake 7.0.

By default, netscape for Windows print header [Document Title, URL] and
footer [Page Number, Page Total, Date Printed].

But both header and footer are blank for netscape for Linux. I can't
find any information how to achieve it.
Can someone enlighten me ?

Thank you.





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From: Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux Assembler
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:22:43 -0500

(i did post the following on alt.lang.asm -- but i think either everyone's 
out to lunch or they're all deceased from that era!)

simple question...about linux


what's the assebler in linux called? 
(optional, dissasembler?)

as i said, quite simple! lol

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From: "Leonie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: e-smith server and gateway
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 16:28:59 +1100

Wondering if anyone can help me.

I am trying to install e-smith server and gateway v4, which is based on
RedHat v6.1. It's supposed to set up a network server automatically.

I have installed it on an AMD Duron 600 machine with no worries, but I
really want to put it on an old 100MHz machine and adminster it through the
Duron machine.

I looked for the system requirements on redhat and e-smith's websites and
had no luck. During the installation on the 486 it says "received siganl 7"
and terminates.

Any suggestions?
Leonie





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From: "Veronica Morales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: error: no space left on the device
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:24:07 -0500

Back again.  More problems.

I've finally fixed all networking problems and my Linux Cluster (final
project for a CS class) is communicating just fine.

New problem: as I began to run parallel programs (using PVM which is working
fine) I started to get the following error, whenever I attempt to compile or
copy:
no space left on the device

Doing df, it shows that /dev/sda1 is at 100%, I believe this is mounted to
/root which is where I go to begin my pvm sessions.

How did this partition become full?  How can I give it more space from
another partition?  There are a couple of other ones, /home and something
else, that have room.

Please help a student.  I cant seem to find anything online or in my books.
Thanks

--

Veronica Morales
Smith College



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From: "Jason Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Panic, Please Help...I am Panicking Too
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:39:32 -0500

I am pretty new to this linux stuff so bear with me.  I recently downloaded
and installed mandrake 7.2, but unfortunately my usb modem wasnt supported,
so when the kernel update came out I thought I would give that a try....got
the kernel compiled, updated LILO...restart and attempt to load the new
kernel...and I get a kernel panic error...

Speciffically:

kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 21:05

How can I fix this?  It was suggested to me that I try rdev....I tried it
but I am not sure how to use it correctly can someone elaborate or give me
some more insite into how I can correct this problem?

I appreciate all your help...

System spec's:

PIII 700e cB0 @ 875 1.65v - Abit BE6-II UH w/Highpoint 366 controlloer-
128mb EMS / 256mb Micron SDRAM - 20.4 7200 Barracuda - 20.4 7200 Western
Digital- SB Live - Plex 8/4/32 - Geforce 2 MX Prophet II 205/205,
WinMill/Win2k Pro/Whistler/Linux Mandrake 7.2




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From: Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux Assembler
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:08:31 -0500

dm...wrong newsgroup.


Roger wrote:

> (i did post the following on alt.lang.asm -- but i think either everyone's
> out to lunch or they're all deceased from that era!)
> 
> simple question...about linux
> 
> 
> what's the assebler in linux called?
> (optional, dissasembler?)
> 
> as i said, quite simple! lol
> 

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From: David Keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: error: no space left on the device
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:14:50 -0800

Veronica Morales wrote:

> Back again.  More problems.
>
> I've finally fixed all networking problems and my Linux Cluster (final
> project for a CS class) is communicating just fine.
>
> New problem: as I began to run parallel programs (using PVM which is working
> fine) I started to get the following error, whenever I attempt to compile or
> copy:
> no space left on the device
>
> Doing df, it shows that /dev/sda1 is at 100%, I believe this is mounted to
> /root which is where I go to begin my pvm sessions.
>
> How did this partition become full?  How can I give it more space from
> another partition?  There are a couple of other ones, /home and something
> else, that have room.
>
> Please help a student.  I cant seem to find anything online or in my books.
> Thanks
>
> --
>
> Veronica Morales
> Smith College

Have a look to see if you have any files named 'core' - some programs can just
run away and dump everything ( you could run gdb on it if you are interested )

D


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Bell)
Date: 14 Dec 2000 06:38:20 GMT
Subject: Auto shutoff of the monitor at the graphical login...How?

I've been setting up a couple machines running Mandrake 7.2 (very good), and
have a question:  How can I have the monitor shut off after, say, 5 minutes of
idle time while sitting at the graphical login screen?  It's easy to set that
up KDE when you're already logged in.  This is my first time using Linux in a
GUI desktop enviroment (I've been using linux in the server role for a year or
so) -- I'm not afraid to edit config files. :)  Thanks!

=========================
David Bell - Otherwise known as DB7654321

Remember to remove nospam, notrash or anything odd looking from my email
address. :)

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From: Jythexinvok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can anyone recommend a newsreader?
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:10:32 -0500


    Can anyone recommend a good newsreader for linux?  Neither trn or
netscape's built in one are quite doing the trick.  I need something
capable of uudecoding files split across multiple messages (like trn's
:e command) BUT can handle file names with spaces in them.  Under trn
(and if anyone knows a way to fix this please let me know because) if I
:e a file with a space in the name it saves it using only the first
word.  Not only does this loose the extention, but if I'm grabbing a set
of files they will keep overwriting eachother.
    Can anyone point me twards a newsreader that can handle this?
    Any help would be appreciated.


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From: David Punsalan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: winmodem
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 01:03:03 -0600

Thanks for posting this message!!

I just made my cheap-o HSP PCTel modem work under Linux!  It wasn't that
hard either.  I just followed the directions.  People complaining about
"winmodems" should really check out this website (linmodems.org).  Thanks
to William Hsu at PCTell!!
- David

> >I often see in this newsgroup that when someone asks about using a winmodem
> >with linux, he/she is advised it cannot be done, get a real modem, or only one
> >type of chipset is usable. Altho it might be smart to get a real modem, this
> >advice is not accurate. Let's direct them to www.linmodems.org or to the
> >Linmodem-HOWTO for real information.


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From: jinp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: quickcam
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:36:56 -0500

I have quickcam driver set up, can any one tell me what application I 
can use to test if it is working?

Thanks
jinp


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From: David Richard Larochelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: debian and netscape
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 02:13:58 -0500

Hi all, when I try to run netscape on debian 2.2 I get:
 ~ >communicator
grep: /etc/netscape4/config: No such file or directory
egrep: /etc/netscape4/config: No such file or directory
Netscape: Ignoring unsupported format code in mailcap file: %{
Bus error

I can't seem to track this down.  I've tried removing and reinstall
netscaoe but this doesn't work.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,



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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:28:11 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tom Szczesniak wrote:
> 
> Actually I just found it
> 
> GNU Parted.
> 
> But I only have Windows98 as a platform.  This won't start from there.
> I have a boot disk that came with Mandrake 7.2 that can get me to a
> prompt.  But I have no way to download the file.  I go to ftp it and
> things just lock up, I guess because it's trying to saving it to my
> fat32.
> Tom Szc....
> at thomasz@jef(nospamminallowed)fnet.org

You can always get a root/boot floppy combination, and mount a floppy
which contains the parted tool.
If you think you cannot handle it -Don't underestimate yourself- ,you
can ofcourse buy PowerQuest's Partition Magic. That's a pretty
self-explanatory tool.

Eric

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic, Please Help...I am Panicking Too
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:35:19 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jason Stuart wrote:
> 
> I am pretty new to this linux stuff so bear with me.  I recently downloaded
> and installed mandrake 7.2, but unfortunately my usb modem wasnt supported,
> so when the kernel update came out I thought I would give that a try....got
> the kernel compiled, updated LILO...restart and attempt to load the new
> kernel...and I get a kernel panic error...
> 
> Speciffically:
> 
> kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 21:05
> 
> How can I fix this?  It was suggested to me that I try rdev....I tried it
> but I am not sure how to use it correctly can someone elaborate or give me
> some more insite into how I can correct this problem?
> 

Have you heard of manpages?
I never used rdev before, but I figure everything you need is in the
manpages

man rdev


(I checked there, and found: rdev -h for examples)

Eric

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From: Jared MacLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help setting up RedHat 6.1 or 6.2
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:12:42 -0500

Hi,
I hope I am posting this in the correct newsgoup.  It seems like people
get some really good help here setting up linux.

I am trying to setup a ThinkPad 560 with RedHat 6.1.  It has a floppy
drive but no cdrom.  I made a boot disk from boot.img and it boots the
computer ok.  Since I do not have a network card, (just a modem) and no
cdrom, I decided to try doing the install from the Hard Disk.  The
computer has win95 in a fat32 partition.  I moved the fat32 partition to
the end of the drive and shruk it down.  Then I made a fat16 partition
just before it on the drive big enough to hold the RedHat RPMS.  I then
used some free laplink like software to download the base direcory and
the RPMS directory from the CDROM to this fat16 partition.

When I try to set it up like this everything seems to go smoothly, it
loads up the second stage boot stuff from the base directory, I can
patition the disk, but when it tries to read the packages it freeks out
with some script errors.  Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?

Maybe the filenames got truncated and RedHat can't recognize them?  In
Win95 the have 2 names, the full one, and the 8.3 ~1 name.  I also tried
booting with the pcmcia.img for fun,  because it is a laptop but that
did not help.

Any ideas or help would be great.

Thanks.
Jared


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From: "Paul Beattie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing StarOffice 5.2 (Newbie)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 07:44:53 -0000

Hi,

I have managed to install Red Hat Linux 6.0 (2.2.5-15). ;-)
Then I have installed StarOffice5.2
It looks like it has installed correctly, then to run it I type
./soffice
in /root/office52

and I get an error message that it could not find a vital setup file
and that it was looking in
/root/office52/program/setup.ins
for it.
I have greped the setup.log file and that did not report a setup.ins file,
so I expect that the file is generated during the installation.
I have done a find within the Gnome file manager and that did not report
having found the setup.ins file.

I have tried reloading Staroffice twice, having "rm -r -f *" from
/root/office52/ and still no luck, I get the same error message.

I'm not stuck.
What am I doing wrong?

--
Cheers
Paul



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From: "Paul Beattie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing StarOffice 5.2 (Newbie)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 08:13:44 -0000

Oops a Typo it should read
"I'm now stuck"

--
Cheers
Paul

Paul Beattie wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...

>I'm not stuck.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: error: no space left on the device
Date: 14 Dec 2000 08:22:25 GMT

In <919loi$3bv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Veronica Morales" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]I've finally fixed all networking problems and my Linux Cluster (final
]project for a CS class) is communicating just fine.

]New problem: as I began to run parallel programs (using PVM which is working
]fine) I started to get the following error, whenever I attempt to compile or
]copy:
]no space left on the device

]Doing df, it shows that /dev/sda1 is at 100%, I believe this is mounted to
]/root which is where I go to begin my pvm sessions.

You do not give us much info. Where is /dev/sda1 mounted? 
(look at the df output-- on th efar right is the directory on which it
is mounted). /root very rarely has its own partition. Furthermore
running programs as root is a bad idea.

Find out where it is that all the space is going to

du -s /var/* /root/*
for example.


]How did this partition become full?  How can I give it more space from
]another partition?  There are a couple of other ones, /home and something
]else, that have room.

No idea how it got full. No informtion in what you have told us.

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:36:11 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, in my judgement we are up to 2.4, whether its beta or not. It does

Then your judgement is wrong, because we are then also up to glibc
2.2.I_don't_know, gcc 2.9.7.I_don't_know and so on.

> EXIST and it is usable on my laptop.

But it's unusable on mine. So?

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,it.comp.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help adding second hard drive
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:01:18 GMT

On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 00:24:25 GMT, michael thomas 
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi group. Would be real grateful for some advice from you more experienced
> linux users.
> 
> The situation is that I have Redhat installed on its own hard drive, but the
> hard drive is small and I have run out of space. I want to increase this
> space by adding a new hard drive. The pc has a second hard drive with
> Windows 98 on it. What I want to do is to either use part of the windows 98
> hard drive for extra space or buy a new drive and use that. But I don't want
> to mess with my existing linux installation. So basically, I want to format
> the new drive or part of the Windows 98 drive and be able to access it from
> the existing Linux hard drive. Is that possible?
> 
> Thanks everyone
> 
> Mike

See the HD Upgrade How-to:


http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.html

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Best Regards,

Keith         (Use Reply-to for email) 
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great place to start: http://Strongsignals.com  "Where would Christianity be
if Jesus got eight to fifteen years with time off for good behavior?" NY 
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From: Daz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing StarOffice 5.2 (Newbie)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:02:15 +0000

There should be an soffice executable in /root/office52/program directory.

Or is that the one you meant and just mistyped it?

Daz


Paul Beattie wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have managed to install Red Hat Linux 6.0 (2.2.5-15). ;-)
> Then I have installed StarOffice5.2
> It looks like it has installed correctly, then to run it I type
> ./soffice
> in /root/office52
> 
> and I get an error message that it could not find a vital setup file
> and that it was looking in
> /root/office52/program/setup.ins
> for it.
> I have greped the setup.log file and that did not report a setup.ins file,
> so I expect that the file is generated during the installation.
> I have done a find within the Gnome file manager and that did not report
> having found the setup.ins file.
> 
> I have tried reloading Staroffice twice, having "rm -r -f *" from
> /root/office52/ and still no luck, I get the same error message.
> 
> I'm not stuck.
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> --
> Cheers
> Paul
> 
> 

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From: Daz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can anyone recommend a newsreader?
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:06:38 +0000

KNode

Daz


Jythexinvok wrote:

> 
>     Can anyone recommend a good newsreader for linux?  Neither trn or
> netscape's built in one are quite doing the trick.  I need something
> capable of uudecoding files split across multiple messages (like trn's
> :e command) BUT can handle file names with spaces in them.  Under trn
> (and if anyone knows a way to fix this please let me know because) if I
> :e a file with a space in the name it saves it using only the first
> word.  Not only does this loose the extention, but if I'm grabbing a set
> of files they will keep overwriting eachother.
>     Can anyone point me twards a newsreader that can handle this?
>     Any help would be appreciated.
> 

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From: Daz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual Boot Blues
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:15:33 +0000

I used Win2k on fat32 partition, not NTFS. This allowed me to install 
powerquest's bootmagic (came with partitionmagic v5).

When I installed Mandrake 7.2, I created a boot floppy (this should always 
be mandatory) told it to install grub/lilo onto my primary linux partition.

Setting up bootmagic is simple to use and graphical.

I never tried to set up the Win2k menus to boot linux, so if you get fed up 
with trying, the above is something else for you to try.

Good luck
Daz


Bill Courtney wrote:

> Aloha kakou,
> 
> I am trying to get Linux to peacefully coexist with Win2000 - already
> have 2000 loaded - trying to add Linux.
> 
> I have a 20gb drive. The first 9gb is a partition for Win 2000, then a
> 1gb Win 2000 partition, then  a 2gb ext2 partition, then a 250mb swap
> partition. The rest of the drive is unused.
> 
> Linux installs to the ext2 partition with no problems. However, no dual
> boot options appear.
> 
> Any help before I harm myself would be greatly appreciated. Please
> respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Mahalo nui,
>                  Bill Courtney
>                  Courtney Computer Consulting, Inc.
> 

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From: "Paul Beattie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing StarOffice 5.2 (Newbie)
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:58:40 -0000

There is a "shortcut" in the /root/office52 directory that calls the soffice
executable that is in /root/office52/program

Pual :-)

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Paul
Daz wrote in message ...
>There should be an soffice executable in /root/office52/program directory.
>
>Or is that the one you meant and just mistyped it?
>
>Daz
>
>
>Paul Beattie wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have managed to install Red Hat Linux 6.0 (2.2.5-15). ;-)
>> Then I have installed StarOffice5.2
>> It looks like it has installed correctly, then to run it I type
>> ./soffice
>> in /root/office52
>>
>> and I get an error message that it could not find a vital setup file
>> and that it was looking in
>> /root/office52/program/setup.ins
>> for it.
>> I have greped the setup.log file and that did not report a setup.ins
file,
>> so I expect that the file is generated during the installation.
>> I have done a find within the Gnome file manager and that did not report
>> having found the setup.ins file.
>>
>> I have tried reloading Staroffice twice, having "rm -r -f *" from
>> /root/office52/ and still no luck, I get the same error message.
>>
>> I'm not stuck.
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Paul
>>
>>
>
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Need Help with PASSWD! Urgent!
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 13:15:22 +0100

Hi,

why do you crosspost so much?

I don't know about RH6.2 with Win4Lin kernel (shock)

Your problem could be related to different UID/GUID for the users on the
machines?
However you should not use rlogin anyway, it's unsecure as hell...

Use ssh instead!

Good luck

Michael Heiming
Sysadmin

Hong Xie wrote:

> I have encountered the similar problem. I am using
> RH6.2 with Win4Lin kernel. I found that I can only
> telnet or rlogin to my account with the root password.
> When using the individual password setup for each
> account, the telnet said "login incorrect".
> I have tested all other accounts I created, they
> are behaving in the same way. This problem happens
> no matter where you are telneting from, local host
> or not.
>
> However rlogin works if you specify the user name
> on the command line, eg
>
> rlogin hostname -l username
>
> Otherwise the username and password combination will
> not work.
>
> Does anyone know how to solve this problem?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Hong
>
> "JP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:qrTW5.22$5e2.462@client...
> > We are running Slackware kernel 2.0.38 (?).  Lately, a lot of users having
> > trouble logging to the server to extract email.
> >
> > For some user account, when I trying to telnet to the Linux box as usual,
> > it keeps saying login incorrect even if the account has been deleted and
> > re-created.  I checked the password and shadow files and did not notice
> any
> > problems.  Now more and more users are getting this problem.
> >
> > What should I do?  Please give me some advice.  Thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >




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