Linux-Setup Digest #220, Volume #19              Sat, 22 Jul 00 03:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux dialing up to a NT server (peter)
  Re: How To set Virtual Mail by Telnet ? ("Jeff Tsui")
  How to setup 2 mail server in one computer ? ("Jeff Tsui")
  conio.h equivalent? ("Linda Houston")
  Re: microsoft - ("Jeffrey Lacy")
  Re: Kernel Mismatch? ("Jevin Maltais")
  Install linux using hard drive as install disk? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux Install Help (peter)
  Re: can't load xwindows after edditing xf86config (peter)
  put User Menu in a mouse pop-up menu in Gnome/Enlightenment? (Brian P. Flaherty)
  Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux (phil ossifer)
  Windowsnetworkprinter with Linuxcomputer ("John Dekker")
  Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux (phil ossifer)
  what Pop3 servers are the best (Serial # 19781010)
  Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux (phil ossifer)
  Trouble configuring nfs (Jeff Shipman)
  By the way... (Jeff Shipman)

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From: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux dialing up to a NT server
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:14:33 -0400

what sort of authentication is the NT server looking for? my isp is
sending this via an NT server right now with chap.

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From: "Jeff Tsui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How To set Virtual Mail by Telnet ?
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 12:54:55 +0800

Thanks a lots ..

I want to setup 2 mail server in one computer.

company1.com
company2.com

What should i do in Linux ?
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"Zebee Johnstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.setup on Fri, 21 Jul 2000 11:43:13 +0800
> Jeff Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I would like to setup virtual mail in RedHat 6.1, but i don't know how to
> >set.
> >Any pofessional can help me to solve this problem ?
>
>
> Possibly, if I knew what you wanted :)
>
> Can you explain in more detail what you want?
>
> What is "virtual mail"?
>
> Zebee
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From: "Jeff Tsui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to setup 2 mail server in one computer ?
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 12:55:37 +0800

I want to setup 2 mail server in one computer.

company1.com
company2.com

What should i do in Linux ?



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From: "Linda Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: conio.h equivalent?
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 15:01:28 +1000

hi,
      anyone know what headers i could use for porting conio.h functions to
linux (RH6.2)?
i seen vga_keyboard , but i dont know if that will only work in X

    Kalin




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From: "Jeffrey Lacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: microsoft -
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 05:13:26 GMT

You fail to understand.  The "patch" which supposedly increases the
stability of windows 98 2nd edition ONLY increases the stability AFTER you
download AND install it correctly.  Other than that, GO LINUX!!!


http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com




"Robp2001" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8l5i7a$rn1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> justa quick post to say... Ive just got linux...thank god !!
>
> went to microsoft site to get win98 'update'  (thats a hole fix, in
english)
> and this one patch was called 'critical update 1' - (which is a microsoft
> cock up, in english)  I quote: "this patch increses the stability of
windows
> 98 2nd edition"..
>
> well started to download, and IE 5 crashed !!!.
>
> windows is a pile of bill gates.... Go linux !!.
>
>



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From: "Jevin Maltais" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Mismatch?
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 05:14:59 GMT

Yes I did.. and I'm still stuck :(

Anybody.. please help!

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8la75q$qmf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> did you do the:
>
> make modules
> make modules_install
>
> ?
>
>
>
>
> In article <gT0e5.2437$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   "Jevin Maltais" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there.  I've rebuilt my kernel then done the make install, like 5
> times
> > to fix the following error when I do the insmod ip_masq_h323, but I
> can't
> > fix it.  I'm using Mandrake 7.  Please assist because I'm stuck
> >
> > ./ip_masq_h323.o was compiled for kernel version 2.2.14-15mdk while
> this
> > kernel is version 2.2.14-1mdklinus.
> >
> >         Thanks in advance,
> >             Jevin
> >
> >
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Install linux using hard drive as install disk?
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 05:07:19 GMT

Hello. I need to install RedHat linux (6.1) on this P60
system I have. The onboard floppy controller has gone
bad, so I can't use an installation disk. I don't have
an IDE/floppy controller card I can drop in.

Is there anyway I can put the installation diskette's
contents on to the hard drive I plan on installing to?
Then I could boot from that HD, then it will tell me
to put in the CDROM, it will find it, then the CDROM
install process pretty much takes over, right, and
it will install on that HD that it booted from. Maybe?

Or any other options? This is an old Packard Bell, it
won't boot from the CDROM drive.

I tried installing linux on to the target hard drive
on another machine and then just putting the drive
in the Packard Bell (many times) but could not get it
to work.

Every time it boots up it just goes "01 01 01 01" across
the screen forever.

Would that have anything to do with my SCSI card? In my
normal workstation, the one I used to try to install linux
on to the IDE hard drive and then move it to the Packard Bell,
I use a SCSI drive. I unplugged the drive so it won't boot
from that (and I won't accidentally pick that drive to
install linux to), but the linux install *does* find the
card, I wonder if that makes it install different for some
reason.

I should mention that I get the "01 01 01" thing when booting
from the drive on *either* system. And I have tried a different
IDE drive, same problem.

Thanks for any help.

Ryan


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From: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Install Help
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:25:44 -0400

No, nothing is disabled. However you should make sure you've got
_everything_ you will need for the install. Be informed also that it's
good to have a manual or other book handy, and that sometimes a large
SCSI device will require a boot option to initially get it all going.
Once you're up you can automate things. I've had good luck with RedHat,
SuSE and Caldera.
That said, it's a _Lot_ easier to just buy a boxed set of cd's, etc. I
know because my first install was Slackware 3 from floppies and
downloads. Let me know how it goes,

pete

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From: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't load xwindows after edditing xf86config
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:40:59 -0400

reboot into single-user mode. edit your /etc/inittab to default to
runlevel 3 (make _Sure_ you read the comments/instructions at the top of
the file!!) then you will be able to fix whatever you need to from a
terminal with no x after a reboot

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Subject: put User Menu in a mouse pop-up menu in Gnome/Enlightenment?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian P. Flaherty)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 05:43:09 GMT

Hello,

I am a relatively new Linux user (RedHat 6.2) and am trying to
customize Gnome/Enlightenment.  I have put applications want in the
User Menu (~/.gnome/apps), but I would like that menu to pop up within
the menu that comes up with a middle or right mouse button click.  I
cannot figure out how to do it.  Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Brian Flaherty

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil ossifer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 05:53:36 GMT

On 18 Jul 2000 19:36:27 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.) wrote:


 > > Is there such a thing as a "winmotherboard, a
 > > winchipset, a winbios", and if there is did I just buy one?
 > 
 > Not that I know of.
 > 
 

 > As for the BIOS and chipset, absolutely not.  How could you have one
 > that requires an OS.  These parts must be active and working before the
 > OS loads.  That's how your computer boots.
 > 

Well, the motherboard comes with a bunch of (W9x/NT -only) utilities and
drivers.  One of the drivers is for busmastering (if I recall correct.ly).   it
was needed to get the best performanc out of the on-board hard drive controller.
Others presumably access the "soft off" feature (where the system can be awoken
by a modem ring, or at a specific time, etc.)   I guess there's  utilities to
set various BIOS options.   As I said, VIA had a DOS version of the busmastering
driver on its web site, but no mention of anything for Linux.    What I fear is
the same kind of stonewalling on the information to write configuration
utilities and drivers that the guys wanting to write Linux drivers for winmodems
ran into.


 > > Do I have a winharddrive, a wincdrom, a wimvideo board?  
 > Aside from modems, the only common "windows only" devices out there are
 > printers.
 
Well  if the manufacurers are mute about how to access their "acceleration"
features, higher than standard VGA resolutions,  and other features of the card,
and there are only W9x/NT drivers for the card, that effectively makes it a
winvideocard, no?   No doubt Linux could use it as a dumb VGA card, but who the
hell is going to be satisfied with unaccellerated 640x400 VGA?  (That is the
situation I am now in with Win3.x on this system  unaccellerated VGA 640x400
only.  Bleeach...)


Thanks for the response


Phil

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From: "John Dekker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Windowsnetworkprinter with Linuxcomputer
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 08:01:46 +0200

Hi,

I've a windows network with a printer on one of the computers (192.168.0.1)
. 
I've connected a Linux computer (Suse 6.4) on this network.
>From the windowscomputers I see the Linux. but I can't seen the files.
>From the Linuxcomputer I can't seen nothing from the network.
Can any body tell me how I can use the printer from the windowsnetwork with
the Linuxcomputer?????.

John Dekker



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil ossifer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 06:01:28 GMT

On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 07:24:35 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela) wrote:

 
 >      Have you tried install Suse on it yet? If you have did it
 > work? what hardware did not get recognized?

No.  I spent the first week on getting the hardware to work (2 1/2 days --
bad/incompatable ram)  then trying to get DOS and Win3.x up and all my stuff
working.   The second week was to be Linux (Corel), but then a family emergency
came up that ate up the last week.  I have no time to play "adventure"  (try
this..   try that...) .   I just got back and have about 18 hours to make a
decision (and get some sleep...) .

 >      ok as for the network card driver. have you ever used GCC
 > before? what does the instructions for the driver say? 

Nope, only MS, Datalight, and Borland C.

 > Makefiles?

Yep, but not Unix ones.

 > INSTALL text files?

Thanks for the response.   Given time I'm sure I could work it out.   But Fry's
has not been "understanding".   Decision time is tommorow.    Tic... tic...
tic..

Thanks for the response


Phil


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From: Serial # 19781010 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: what Pop3 servers are the best
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 01:15:57 -0500

        I have heard about qpopper and ipop3d, but are those the only
two pop3 servers available for Linux?  I haven't found anything else
either.  If someone knows anything else I love to here about it.

Thanks in advance

Eli
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil ossifer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 06:55:44 GMT

On Sun, 16 Jul 2000 14:08:34 -0400, kSniNe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > Make a boot disk and fire that bastard up. 

I thought I made it clear:  real-world time constraints make that impractical.

 >  If you get to an install
 > screen, your are pretty much set, as most hardware runs at least in a
 > "basic/standard" mode. Then you can hunt down the drivers/settings to
 > tune her up.
 
Well, not to put too fine a point on it, I've been running basic/standard
486/sx25 for a _long_ time now.   Now that I take the plunge an cough up a few
thou for a 2000 system, I'm not going to be satisfied with running it in
"basic/standard" mode.   These modern systems are finally getting things right
(like "soft off" mode (with awaking by time, LAN, modem ring, etc) ,  save to
ram,  (all power down except ram refresh, come back where you left off)  Bus
mastering, video acceleration, etc.  I am not going to be sarisfied with an
operating system that makes me use this like a fast version of a 1986 386
system.   

I realize that with the source I can tune the system.  That is Linux's main
alure to me.  But not if the hardward features are shrouded by the mfgr and his
only support for them are W95 utilities/drivers.

 > 95% hardware will work if you are willing to experiment. 

Well, I'm willing, just not able.   But MOST PC users will not be willing.  The
Linux community must face this or Linux will go the way of OS/2  ( IBM's fatal
last words on the issue of drivers:  "drivers are the hardware manufacturer's
responsibility".   WRONG.   Drivers are the responsibility of whoever is trying
to close a sale.  And now it is Linux that wants the "sale".   It needs the new
users.   Most new users don't need it.   Certainly hardware manufacturers don't
need it any more than they needed OS/2.


 > The best approach is to build your system around Linux, rather than
 > build Linux around your system.
 > -kSniNe
 
Well, for a 100% true-blue died in the wool Linux user, sure.   But what's a
fella who wants to try out Linux to do?   Build a whole new system?   I _want_
to run Linux.  I _want_ it to succeed.   But, frankly, I wanted to run OS/2.  I
wanted it to succeed.   No disrespect, but the responses I have received so far
to my _very_ _fundamental_ question (here is my hardware, will the system you
espouse run on it?)  have been _very_ reminicent to the responses similiar
questions got in 1992-1993 regarding OS/2.  And the attitudes are almost
identical.    I realize this is more attuned to an advocacy group, but as long
as the response is "go play adventure" or "buy different hardware",  then Linux
will become as dead-end as OS/2 is.



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From: Jeff Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble configuring nfs
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 01:09:40 -0600

I'm having a bit of trouble configuring my nfs. The
computers see eachother just fine. The server has ip
10.0.0.1 and the client has 10.0.0.2. I
think I've set everything up correctly on the
server side, however when I type 'showmount millenia',
I just get

Hosts on millenia:

If I type 'showmount -e millenia', I get
Export list for millenia:
/jaz 10.0.0.2

On the server, rpcinfo -p shows:

   program vers proto   port
    100000    2   tcp    111  portmapper
    100000    2   udp    111  portmapper
    100005    1   udp    880  mountd
    100005    1   tcp    882  mountd
    100005    2   udp    885  mountd
    100005    2   tcp    887  mountd
    100003    2   udp   2049  nfs

My /etc/exports looks like this:
/jaz aquarius(rw,no_root_squash)

/etc/hosts.deny:
portmap: ALL

/etc/hosts.allow:
portmap: 10.0.0.0/255.0.0.0

The 'route' command shows:
10.0.0.1        *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0
eth0
tcc-modem-gw.nm *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0
ppp0
10.0.0.0        *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0
eth0
127.0.0.0       *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0
lo
default         tcc-modem-gw.nm 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0
ppp0

And finally, the line in /etc/fstab on the client is:
millenia:/jaz /jaz nfs defaults 0 0

If anybody could help me track down where I'm messing up, I would
really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!



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From: Jeff Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: By the way...
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 01:10:27 -0600

By the way...I'm running Mandrake 7.1 with a 2.2.16
kernel.

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