Linux-Setup Digest #220, Volume #21              Mon, 14 May 01 05:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Gnome Panel disappeared. ("David Dorward")
  Re: Space Problems (Karthikesh Raju)
  changing resolution with XFree.4... (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte)
  Re: how to change the resolution of the command prompt when startinf Linux ? ("Norm")
  Re: SAMBA ("Greg")
  Re: Problem compiling Ed-0.2 ("Peet Grobler")
  Re: partition type 0x54 (Linux SuSE 7.1) ("Eric")
  Re: modem driver question ("Peet Grobler")
  Re: /dev/hdd3 is not on the first disk? (Juergen Pfann)
  Re: Font quality in Linux? (Corne Beerse)
  Re: Catch-22 on Red Hat 7.0+update rpms install ("Anthony DeRobertis")
  Re: dual booting problem ("Stanislav Girin")
  How to shut-off on a shut-down? (Corne Beerse)
  Re: Moving/Resizing Linux (ext2) partitions with Partition Magic: It works! ("Eric")
  Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")

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From: "David Dorward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome Panel disappeared.
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 06:22:07 +0100

It seems that on Sun, 13 May 2001 22:57:43 +0100, someone claiming to be
"les andrzejewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> typed this:

> And I can't get it back. Any suggestions?

Click the tiny line on the edge of the scree to unhide it

Run the "panel" program

Right click on the gnome desktop and add a new panel (I think, I don't
use gnome itself, only the panel)

-- 
David Dorward                               http://www.dorward.co.uk/
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink
what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. -- Mark Twain

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From: Karthikesh Raju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Space Problems
Date: 14 May 2001 08:45:50 +0300

Thanks everybody,

i created a seperate partition for my /var, found that (when i was
trying to install Helix Gnome) the /var became full. It seems for the
moment to be running fine...

Thankx for all the suggestions, 
karthik
-- 

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Karthikesh Raju,                    email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]         
Graduate Student,                   http://www.cis.hut.fi/karthik
Helsinki University of Technology,  Tel: +358-9-541 5389
Laboratory of Comp. & Info. Sc.,    Fax: +358-9-451 3277
Department of Computer Sc.,
P.O Box 5400, FIN 02015 HUT,
Espoo, FINLAND
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?= Patte 
Subject: changing resolution with XFree.4...
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 07:52:31 +0200

Bonjour,

I would like to know how to change the resolution of my screen, using
Ctrl Alt +/-, with XFree.4.0.3?
What are the lines to add to the file XF86Config-4?

Thank you.

-- Fran�ois Patte. UFR de math�matiques et informatique.



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From: "Norm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: how to change the resolution of the command prompt when startinf Linux ?
Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 23:08:32 -0700


"Yves Leung-Tack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
>
>    I have Mandrake 7.2 and I use the command prompt startup (Bash)
> (X has to be start manually with).
> I'd like to use a higher resolution for that command prompt ex:1024x768
>
> Can someone point me out how to achieve that ?
>
> Thanks a lot ..!!!

Instructions can be found in the kernel documentation, in the
svga.txt file in the linux source tree, usually located at
usr/src/linux/Documentation/svga.txt:

[snippet begins]
   The video mode to be used is selected by a kernel parameter which can be
specified in the kernel Makefile (the SVGA_MODE=... line) or by the "vga=..."
option of LILO (or some other boot loader you use) or by the "vidmode" utility
(present in standard Linux utility packages). You can use the following values
of this parameter:
[snippet ends - see the file itself]
--
Norm



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From: "Greg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:28:27 +0200

Have you enabled clear text passwords from NT?
With the samba install you'll get a couple of scripts to do that.

Greg

"sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9dn8g9$64i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> HI,
>
> I am new to LINUX.
>
> Now i want to install Samba to share file&printer with WINDOWS NT.
>
> After i install&setup, i can see LINUX Server in NT Workstation, but
> i cannot access LINUX Server.
>
>
> What wrong ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>



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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Problem compiling Ed-0.2
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:50:19 +0200

Strange enough... I build a Linux from Scratch this weekend as well. Got the
same problem, though I cannot remember the exact messages. I continued to
install the other software, and the machine is now completely installed,
except for ed. I've tried installing it now, once the machine is fully
installed, but no luck, same problem.

Maybe, if you have the exact make error messages, you should post them to a
forum on www.linuxfromscratch.org, or open a bug report for it, or
something.

Please let me know what you do, since I need to get this resolved as well.

Michael Pye wrote in message ...
>I'm building a Linux from Scratch system and I am receiving an error about
a
>function being defined twice while making Ed-0.2
>
>I have tried the copy from both the LFS site and the GNU site, but neither
>will compile. I am using the latest versions of both gcc and the glibc
>(2.95.3 and 2.2.2). I can't find any patches like the one used to solve a
>similar problem in the findutils-4.1 package.
>
>Has anyone else come across this or a way around it?
>
>Thanks
>
>MP
>
>



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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition type 0x54 (Linux SuSE 7.1)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:52:23 +0200

> OK here is the output:
>
> /dev/hdb2   *       132       507   3020220    5  Extended
>
> that is the one that can't be booted anymore....
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 2501 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hda1   *         1       574   4610623+   b  Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hda2           575      2501  15478627+   f  Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/hda5          1149      1722   4610623+  83  Linux
> /dev/hda6          1723      2501   6257286    b  Win95 FAT32
>
> Disk /dev/hda1: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 573 cylinders

Oops. this one should not have been used.
Remarkable that fdisk can even deal with it!
maybe you really have a virus? something that messes with
partitiontables? (PS. this is just guessing, I've never had a virus yet)

> Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 523 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hdb1             1       131   1052226    b  Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hdb2   *       132       507   3020220    5  Extended
> /dev/hdb3           508       523    128520   82  Linux swap
> /dev/hdb5           132       507   3020188+   b  Win95 FAT32
>
> Disk /dev/hdc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1232 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
>    Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/hdc1   *         1       261   2096451   83  Linux
> /dev/hdc2           262       293    257040   82  Linux swap
> /dev/hdc3           294      1027   5895855   83  Linux
>
> >
> > (If your linux's won't boot: use a linux rescue system)
>
> I can start SUSE using the installation floopy, and I have to load every
> time the module for my NIC, printing is out of the question as well.
>
> Finally I was able to salvage my Mail and News-folders  and other
> documents but, it looks very likely that I don`t get the Caldera
> eDesktop 2.4 back to a working order


All tables are correct as far as I can tell.
I would also have to see the lilo.conf file(s) to see if the problem
originates there.

Eric



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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: modem driver question
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:03:09 +0200

re-compile your kernel, enable the setting "[ ] Set version information for
all modules"

This'll fix it, iirc.

Farrell Farahbod wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>i am VERY new to linux and im having troubble installing the linux
>driver for my winmodem. i use rh7.1 wich has a kernel version 2.4.2-2.
>the driver i had is for kernel version 2.4.0-0.26. the instructions on
>how i am supposed to install it are pasted below. at step3, i get the
>following error message:
>
>pctel.o kernel-module version mismatch
>    pctel.o was compiled kernel version 2.4.0-0.26
>
>and it said that my kernel was 2.4.2-2. so how do i fix this problem?
>any help would be much appriciated.
>
>thank you,
>
>farrell farahbod
>



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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev/hdd3 is not on the first disk?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:42:50 +0200

Lisette Schelles wrote:
> 
> "Markus Kossmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > lilo should be able to boot from the second harddisk if your BIOS
> > supports it.  Any recent BIOS should support booting from the second IDE
> > channel.
> >

or from the 3rd, or from SCSI, or...

> > However "BIOS drive 0x82" means that lilo assumes that /dev/hdd is the
> > third bootable harddisk device (and  not the second) . Is there a CDROM
> > on /dev/hdc  ?
> 

As I said in another posting, this message always comes up with 0x82, 
even when we speak of the 4th (0x83), 5th (0x84), etc... disk. 
Probably the developer meant "0x82 and higher"...


> Yes my cdrom drive is on /dev/hdc
> 
> > It that case you have to add the lines
> >
> > disk=/dev/hdd
> > bios=0x81
> 
> Thank you very much! I have added these lines in lilo.conf and now I can
> boot between the 4 os without any problem.

Fine - but funny anyway; if there are only 2 HDs effectively, they 
_should_ be assigned 0x80 and 0x81 by the BIOS automagically. Must have 
gone wrong in your case somehow. Anyway, these lines in lilo.conf seem 
a good idea to me - but you must reflect changes here, for instance 
adding / removing disks, and rerun lilo then. Additionally, you can 
specify the logical geometry according to Linux fdisk here : 
"cylinders=..." "heads=..." "sectors=..." (on separate lines each).

> Still I wonder where I can find more information about this parameters
> because I have search different FAQ and read the man page from lilo.conf but
> no information about these parameters.
> 

There is additional LILO docu in /where/your/package/docs/are/lilo.XXX/ 
tech.dvi, tech.ps, user.dvi, user.ps. Last time I read these, of course 
they covered the "disk=..." and "bios=..." parameters. 

HTH 

Juergen

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From: Corne Beerse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Font quality in Linux?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:52:27 +0200

Ralph Mack wrote:
> 
> I have my Linux box and my Win2000 box on a port switch and I've been
> noticing that a 10 point font on my Linux box looks a bit smaller than a
> 10 point font on my Windows box. In fact, the 10 point font in Netscape
> on my 17" 1024x768 monitor is just about unreadable. 12 point works much
> better.
> Now I seem to recall that Windows used to inflate fonts slightly back in
> Windows 3.0 in the days when VGA was considered a really hot thing.
> Knowing Microsoft, they're probably still doing that in Win2K. It may be
> a crutch, but I'm used to thinking of particular font sizes for
> particular uses and don't really want to relearn the map for Linux. Is
> there any setting I can tweak in X so that I get similar font size
> behavior on Linux?

Have a look at your X11 (Xfree86) configuration. I think you can
configure the monitor size in pixels and in natural size. I'm not sure
for hte Xfree port of X11 but several X11 servers can do some scaling
too. So if you can, configure both the pixel size and the real size of
the monitor, then (hopefully) you've what you like.


> Also, I've noticed that the fonts I'm seeing in Linux are frankly kind of
> ugly; they look like they're being used at scales where the scaling
> parameters aren't optimal, kind of like some of the amateur 3rd party
> fonts I've seen on the net rather than the product of a real foundry.
> They look - it's hard to explain - kind of "out of focus". It also seems
> like the spacing between words is somehow "off" too - spaces either
> stretch too far or the words run together a little. This is really
> disturbing.

That might also be something with scaling.

> Because of all of the above, I keep getting the uncomfortable feeling
> that I'm using the wrong fonts. Or maybe I've just gotten too sensitive.
> Is there any way to get the same kind of font quality that I get in
> Windows or the Mac? Have I misconfigured something or is there something
> I can install?

The fonts which are asked for by the application can be remapped to a
totally different realy used font. I bet by default, you never find
helvetica on M$ machines and never find Arial on non M$ systems. That's
just one of M$'s license pollicy: don't use what the rest is using but
copy it and put it in an M$ license.

CB

-- 
Everything should be as simple as possible but not simpler - A. Einstein
Corne' Beerse                                   | Alcatel Telecom Nederland

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From: "Anthony DeRobertis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Catch-22 on Red Hat 7.0+update rpms install
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 04:07:27 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Norm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> but I feel it should be
> possible to create a fully updated system in some sort of systematic
> manner. 

ncftp updates.redhat.com
... get update for your distro ...

rpm -Fhv *.rpm

There is no reason to do them in the order released, or one at a time.
Let RPM work out the dependencies!

If it complains about missing packages, do a rpm -Uhv on them, then try
the rpm -Fhv line again.

You could even use rpm's various dependency options to tell you which
packages must be rpm -U'd first. Once you put all this in a script, you
have an up2date equivelant.

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From: "Stanislav Girin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual booting problem
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:07:07 +0300

>
> What does your partition table look like on this drive? I'm not really
> an expert, but I don't think /dev/hda2 indicates a logical partition.

 0 : C:* type=7  (NTFS), size = 6144831 KB
 1 : C:  type=f  (Win95 XInt 13 extended), size = 13920322 KB
 2 : C:  type=7   (NTFS), size = 6144831 KB
 3 : C:  type=5   (Extended), size = 3598560 KB
 4 : C:  type=7    (NTFS), size = 3598528 KB
 5 : C:  type=5    (Extended), size = 24097 KB
 6 : C:  type=83     (Linux native), size = 24066 KB
 7 : C:  type=5     (Extended), size = 136552 KB
 8 : C:  type=82      (Linux swap), size = 136521 KB
 9 : C:  type=5      (Extended), size = 3437910 KB
10 : C:  type=83       (Linux native), size = 3437878 KB

Linux partitions are /dev/hda7 (boot),    /dev/hda8 (swap)    and /dev/hda9
(root)

Yes, there are a bit more extended partitions I really need, but Partiotion
Magic desided to place each logical partition into separated extended
partition.


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From: Corne Beerse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to shut-off on a shut-down?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:00:32 +0200

Hi,

I'm sure it is possible, I've done it before but I've lost my notes on
the subject: I just installed Suse 6.1 (yes six-dot-one, the old one) on
a labtob (laptop?) and I cannot find how or where to power down the
machine automatically on a shutdown. I know it is something in the
init.d or rc.d directories but I cannot find what or where to configure.

How can I (automatically) power-down my machine on a shutdown?

I don't think it is part of the issue but if it is, my machine is a
Toshiba Satalite Pro 440.

Thanks

CB

-- 
Everything should be as simple as possible but not simpler - A. Einstein
Corne' Beerse                                   | Alcatel Telecom Nederland

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From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Moving/Resizing Linux (ext2) partitions with Partition Magic: It works!
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:37:35 +0200

> This is a success story - I didn't think it would work, but it did.  I did
a
> fairly complex set of operations (shrinking the FAT partition, moving the
> extended partition, deleting one swap partition - resizing another one,
and
> moving/resizing the ext2 [Linux boot] partition), all in one Pmagic
session,
> and it worked just fine.
>
> And here's the thing that's amazing: I did not have to re-run LILO - the
> thing just booted up fine.  This totally amazed me, except for the fact
that
> this was a "LILO in the partition - booted by some other boot manager in
the
> MBR", rather than a "LILO in the MBR" setup.  So, it appears, Pmagic is
> actually smart enough to fix the LILO setup if it is in the partition that
> is being resized/moved.
>
> Have I got this all right?  BTW, I've sort of lost my Pmagic
documentation;
> though in fact, I never really read it anyway - since this is the kind of
> program that really should be self-documenting - which I've always found
it
> to be (translation: I haven't screwed up yet).

Rerun /sbin/lilo now you still have the chance.
PM cannot fix lilo for you. You probably were just lucky that nothing is
overwritten yet. If you want to be sure, fill up / and/or /boot with
(zero-filled) files.
You'll probably need a bootfloppy afterwards. Ofcourse there's also a chance
that
/boot/map (I'm not sure what other files are important) and the kernel
weren't moved.
I don't know the strategy of PM's resizer, nor what you exactly did.

Anyway, run /sbin/lilo and you'll be safe.

Eric



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From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: No DNS with DHCP sometimes
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:57:51 +0200


"grendel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:hXjL6.6777$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> SuSE 7.0 (2.2.16)
>
>
> At home I run Linux connected to my ISP getting an IP from them via DHCP.
> Sometimes it works great and when I look in the resolv.conf there is my
DNS
> server, search and domain all gotten via DHCP (not in rc.config). However
> sometimes when I've booted I'll start X or something and go to browse and
I
> can't get anywhere. I can ping an IP address but no name resolution. When
I
> look in resolv.conf there is nothing but the domain that I put in
rc.config
> at install. Therefore the ISP info wasn't written for some reason. Any
> ideas? Thanks in advance.
The dhcp client(usually pump or dhcpcd) starts in all runlevels?




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