Linux-Setup Digest #236, Volume #20              Sun, 17 Dec 00 00:13:06 EST

Contents:
  Re: crossover cable (Eric Bambach)
  Help needed in setting up modem (srinivas_vanjari)
  Add PATH to the startup file under Suse7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Mandrake 7.2 error (new install) (Don Hinds)
  Re: HELP ---- Fixed ("Frank Isaacs")
  Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot (Tom Szczesniak)
  Configuration not working - 2.4.0-test11 ("Drew")
  Real Player 7 plugin problem with Netscape 6. (E J)
  Re: Mandrake 7.2 error (new install) ("Rick Goh")
  Re: Help with compact flash (MHH)
  Re: home networking (Silviu Minut)
  CD not supported .. how to install? ("Trebor")
  Re: Redhat 7 install problem ("Edmund")

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Bambach)
Subject: Re: crossover cable
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:16:09 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to connect the two computers I have at home with a crossover
>cable. I have cable modem (att@home). One computer has two NICs (an SMP
>EtherPower and a linksys card) and the other has a 3com card. If I plug
>the cable modem in any of these 3 cards separately, I can connect to the
>outer world without a hitch (after configuring the interface and the
>routing table, of course). The only thing that I can't do is have the
>computers talk to each other. I noticed that when I plug the cable modem
>into any of the card, the leds light up, but when I plug the crossover
>cable, neither end lights up, so I suspect it is a hardware problem. Is
>this normal? Do I change the cable? Do I get a hub?
>
>Thanks!
>

i agree with everyones advice, although worst comes worst and you stumped all 
the guru's here then just go out and buy a hub. Im not sure but they're not 
terribly expensive and it can save you the headache you seem to be getting 
from this. :) best of luck

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From: srinivas_vanjari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help needed in setting up modem
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:57:53 GMT

Hello,

I need to set up my modem to connect to an ISP. I am using red hat
linux 7 and i used the dial-up configurator available on the gnome
desktop to set up a connection using a modem. I tried autoconfigure to
to autodetect the modem, but the "no modems found" message appeared.

My modem is a win modem (internal)(that is what the windows shows) and
is connected to the com3 port. Can anybody help me setting up my modem.
Furthermore i need to know what i have to do to connect to my
ISP..dns,..Please help me out.

Thanks a lot in advance,
--
regards,
srinivas_vanjari,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Add PATH to the startup file under Suse7.0
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:55:13 GMT

Hiya,
I know how to add a path of say jdk1.3 (for JAVA 2)on Suse7.0. But each
time I login, I need to set the path again. So what's the startup file
for Suse7.0 so that I can edit it to add the path automatically?

Thanks,

David


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 error (new install)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Hinds)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 03:10:21 GMT

>    Don Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I can't run anything. Booting into any GUI and the screen messes and then 
lock.
If I try to boot any other way I get this  error sequence

Aiee, killing interrupt handler
Kernel panic .....
In swapper - not syncing

and it stops booting right there.

        Don

>
>> 
>> Any ideas?  Compaq 7470, Trident Blade 3D (video), AMD K6-3D  533,
>> 20G (5G 
>> allocated to Linux), 64M
>> 
>
>You didn't say what version of X you installed.
>I would run it up in runlevel 3 and then manually
>try Xconfigurator until I found a setting that
>worked. It's a good idea to start with a conservative
>version of X, eg. 3.3.6 without h/w acceleration.
>
>
>

-- 
Don Hinds
http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/eritrea/117/


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From: "Frank Isaacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP ---- Fixed
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 02:58:39 GMT


"Stanislaw Flatto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

<snip>

> This way, the "difficult one", you know what is where, what you did and
> how to correct it.
> With time things get simpler and easier.
>
> Enjoy Linux and remember to have fun.


Well, I found what I did and how to correct it. It turns out NOT to have
been what I thought it was.

[Grinning sheepishly...] I commented out two items I was starting in
/etc/rc.d/rc.local. One of them was /usr/local/mysql/bin/safe_mysqld. Simple
stuff, to start the MySQL database, right? Well, one of the MOST the
annoying things about computers is that they most often do what you tell
them to! That command starts MySQL, alright, and it just sits there and
waits, and waits, and waits, and waits....

I edited the line to the way I had been starting it at the command line:
"/usr/local/mysql/bin/safe_mysqld &" - which as most people probably know,
sends the process to the background and otherwise continues the script (or
returns you to your command prompt). It had not occurred to me that this was
necessary from within a startup script as well, especially since apache
doesn't require this, so I really hosed myself and didn't realize it until I
tried to reboot - for a completely different reason.

(For posterity and archive searches, the original problem was a Caldera Open
Linux eServer 2.3 box which hung on reboot after changing the host name. The
host name change turned out to be irrelevant; it was just the particular
action that caused the reboot after I edited the startup file. The real
culprit was that I edited the rc.local file and didn't bother to test it.
The boot process hung on the graphical screen at the "cleaning up temporary
space."

Anyway, I got a few answers in different forums, and I thank all who
attempted to help. Sorry for the false alarm, but maybe it will help someone
in the future.

So, regarding your advice to enjoy Linux and have fun, well, I try and
mostly succeed. It is cool when you figure out a problem like this, even if
it was your own idiocy which caused it...and no matter how many frustrating
things I run across, I remind myself of a couple of things: 1) This stuff is
so screamingly fast that Windoze can't hope to compare; 2) This stuff is, by
and large, open-source, mostly very well supported (and, oh yeah, free); and
3) I might actually start making some money at this soon... :-)

Thanks for your time and effort!

-Frank






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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Szczesniak)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:31:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Here is the results of running fdisk -l /dev/hda:

========from previous message==================
"The install either runs or gives an option to (by memory here) #root
or something like that.  At that prompt I typed your command from
above and got "could not find kernel" there may have been more details
on the word kernel.  Immediately the install just ran again by itself
and I got the DiskDrake section so I wrote down the details."
============end previous message================

That's from a previous message, but I'll expand because I can see it
wasn't that clear.  In order to run that command I had to put in the
installation cd to boot from linux right?  Or were you saying to run
from dos?  Anyway, I ran the linux install  disk which gave two
options: 1) install 2) more options.  The 'more options' got me to the
prompt which I believe is a linux prompt - the root with a "#"
somewhere in it.  At that root prompt I typed your command.  It said
"could not find kernel" and then it immediately continued with it's
normal installation from the cd (it looked at drives, keyboard, mouse
and brought me up to the partitioning section again).

Since I was there at the partitioning section again, I wrote down
those details in that previous message.

So that's what happened by using the command: fdisk -l /dev/hda at a
linux prompt.


On Fri, 15 Dec 2000 09:41:00 +0100, "Eric en Jolanda"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Could you please post the result of  `fdisk -l /dev/hda`
>hda should be the device you are installing on, if mandrake claims it to be
>hde, that's odd. Are you installing on a disc on a PCI ide controller card?
>Or do you use the onboard IDE controller?
>
>Eric
>
>


_______________________
Tom Szc....
at thomasz@jef(nospamminallowed)fnet.org

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From: "Drew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Configuration not working - 2.4.0-test11
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 19:30:34 -0800

I hate to bother you with a newbie question - but I'm a newbie! Trying very
very hard to learn Linux, but mostly alone. I'll begin attending a user
group next week - hopefully that will help me pick up things faster.
Here's my question. I have spent weeks trying to setup a Linux system, but
every device I try to configure is a nightmare. I have just about given up
on setting up the sound card. I am running kernal 2.4.0-test11 because it
supports my new motherboard with its ATA100 controller but I am beginning to
think that I may be having the problems I am having because this is a beta
kernal (supposedly not stable yet). Maybe if I reverted back to my stable
Mandrake 7.1 installation, and just patched or RPMed the ATA100 controller,
and the driver for my new sound card (a Soundblaster Live), I could avoid
all these problems. My problem is I can't find an RPM for the ATA100
controller or the sound card. Can't find patches for them either. And I'm
such a newbie that I don't know if the ATA100 driver is something that is
even available as a patch or RPM. Does it have to come with the kernal, or
can it be added into the kernal via patch or RPM?
Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Drew





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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Real Player 7 plugin problem with Netscape 6.
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 04:32:52 GMT

I have Real Player 7 almost fully working with Netscape 6.
I have been to a site and the message pops up.
"Netscape Default Plugin
This page contains information of a type (audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin)
that can
only be viewed with the appropriate Plug-in."

I have used the Helper Applications under Netscape 6.

Description of Type: RealAudio File
Extension: .rpm
MIME Type: audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin
Handled By Application: /usr/X11R6/bin/realplay

Real Player 7 still won't play on this website.

I tried copying the plugins, (raclass.zip and rpnp.so) into
/usr/local/netscape/plugins but Real Player 7
still won't play on this website.



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From: "Rick Goh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 error (new install)
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:42:18 +0800

Should be your graphics card or monitor resolution set wrongly. Perhaps u
should configure your XWindows only AFTER u install Mandrake 7.2.
This is because after u install and everything boots up fine in text mode, u
can do a linuxconf and be able to TEST CONFIGURATION when u alter your
monitor settings.

"Don Hinds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:x8W_5.1067$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >    Don Hinds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I can't run anything. Booting into any GUI and the screen messes and then
> lock.
> If I try to boot any other way I get this  error sequence
>
> Aiee, killing interrupt handler
> Kernel panic .....
> In swapper - not syncing
>
> and it stops booting right there.
>
>         Don
>
> >
> >>
> >> Any ideas?  Compaq 7470, Trident Blade 3D (video), AMD K6-3D  533,
> >> 20G (5G
> >> allocated to Linux), 64M
> >>
> >
> >You didn't say what version of X you installed.
> >I would run it up in runlevel 3 and then manually
> >try Xconfigurator until I found a setting that
> >worked. It's a good idea to start with a conservative
> >version of X, eg. 3.3.6 without h/w acceleration.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Don Hinds
> http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/eritrea/117/
>



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From: MHH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with compact flash
Date: 17 Dec 2000 04:48:46 GMT

Hi David,

==========
> Do you get 2 high beeps when you insert it? 

No beeps at all, not even the two different tones meaning 
something is wrong with the config.  The machine behaves
as if nothing were in the slot.  I've tried insert then boot.
Same thing, nothing at all.  I've shoved a cardctl at it 
from the keyboard.  It just answers back:
ioctl(): No such device
Dead as a doornail.

> What does /var/log/messages
> say about it? 

Nothing again.  Second thing I checked (after the syslog).
It is becoming clear to me that the machine does not know
the CF adapter (with the CF in place) from air.

> I have 2 ide channels (4 drives) so my CF was assigned as
> /dev/hde, this did the trick:  mount -t vfat /dev/hde1 /mnt/flash
> (or whatever existing dir you want to mount it on).
> 
> If nothing happens maybe you need a newer pcmcia-cs version.

It looks as if it is coming down to this.  Mine is a year old.  Packaged
with the Slackware along with a 2.2.6 kernel.
--
Thanks,
MHH

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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: home networking
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 17:30:28 -0500

I finally got everything to work, including IP masquarading and nfs. All the
bogus routes were due to screwed up RH scripts. Never again will I ever
configure network with linuxconf. Just ifconfig and route will do. The
EtherPower still does not connect to the other pc (3com) but it is connected
to the cable modem, and although the led still doesn't light up, it works just
fine.

Just a small problem though, which I believe it's basic, but I can't figure it
out. Although all connections are fine, I simply cannot telnet or ssh from
machine B into machine A (the latter does the IP masquarading) (but I can ping
between the two, run nfs, or even write this message). I can, however, telnet,
ssh from my school account into A but not from B to A. Telnet from A to B
works fine.

Here's the ipchains output on machine A (192.168.1.1):

2) root:~> /sbin/ipchains -L -n
Chain input (policy ACCEPT):
Chain forward (policy DENY):
target     prot opt     source                destination           ports
MASQ       all  ------  192.168.1.0/24       0.0.0.0/0             n/a
Chain output (policy ACCEPT):

The script I'm using is the very basic one from the IP Masquarading HOWTO. So
packets coming from the local net will be masquarading, but then I don't know
what happens to them. When I telnet I do get a "Connection closed by foreign
host." message, which entails that packets are not denied, but rather
rejected. Nothing in the ipchains rejects anything. Anyone any idea what this
could be?




David Efflandt wrote:

> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'm trying to connect two pc's at home with a crossover cable and I need
> >a little help.
> >
> >The setup:
> >Machine A: two NICs:
> >        EtherPower (from SMC) - eth0, 192.168.0.1
> >        EtherFast (from linksys) -eth1, 24.183.xx.yy, cable modem to
> >24.183.zz.ww.
> >
> >Machine B:
> >        3com card -eth0, 192.168.0.2
> >
> >both running RH7.0.
> >
> >Here is the ipconfig on machine A:
> >
> >eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:29:52:E8:75
> >          inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
> >
> >          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> >          Interrupt:7 Base address:0x3000
> >
> >eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:03:6D:13:71:91
> >          inet addr:24.183.xx.yy  Bcast:24.183.252.255
> >Mask:255.255.255.0
> >          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >          RX packets:311 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >          TX packets:202 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
> >          Interrupt:10 Base address:0x5000
> >
> >lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
> >          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
> >          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> >
> >and the routing table:
> >
> >Kernel IP routing table
> >Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
> >Iface
> >192.168.0.2     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0
> >eth0
> >192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
> >eth0
> >24.183.zz.0    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
> >eth1
> >127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0
> >lo
> >0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0
> >eth1                        # what's this???
>
> You should remove the above route that goes nowhere.  That is a flaw in
> RedHat scripts that sets a bogus route if /etc/sysconfig/static-routes
> exists (even if empty), instead of testing if it contains anything.
> Remove that file.
>
> >0.0.0.0         24.183.zz.ww    0.0.0.0         UG    1      0        0
> >eth1
> >
> >
> >
> >On machine B:
> >
> >Kernel IP routing table
> >Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
> >Iface
> >192.168.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
> >eth0
> >127.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0
> >lo
> >0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0
> >eth0
> >0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1    0.0.0.0         UG    1      0        0
> >eth0
> >
> >
> >Problems:
> >1) I don't know how the last line on B got in there.
>
> That is a mystery.  Are you running routed or gated (don't).
>
> >2) The led on the card connected to the cable modem is on and the
> >connection to the outer world works fine, but neither card connected by
> >the crossover cable lights up.
>
> That is the primary problem you need to figure out.  Assuming that you
> have a crossover cable (and not patch cable), one of the network cards may
> not be up or working properly.  Did you check /var/log/messages?
>
> One problem I had when updating my kernel to 2.2.17 was that my nic could
> not speak until spoken to (I could not ping unless I had been pinged), but
> I did not pay attention to the lights.  Switching from the tulip to the
> old_tulip module solved that.  I am using a laptop on a crossover cable.
>
> >3) ping doesn't work:
> >
> >13) root:~> ping 192.168.0.2
> >Warning: no SO_TIMESTAMP support, falling back to SIOCGSTAMP
> >PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2) from 192.168.0.1 : 56(84) bytes of data.
> >From 192.168.0.1: Destination Host Unreachable
> >From 192.168.0.1: Destination Host Unreachable
> >From 192.168.0.1: Destination Host Unreachable
> >
> >I need help on this. Do I return the cable? The cards? The computers?
>
> --
> David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/


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From: "Trebor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD not supported .. how to install?
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 04:52:57 GMT

I'm trying to come up with a plan to install RH on my system. But my CD is
provided by my Sound Blaster 16 card .. I think this CD drive is not
bootable, as it isn't available to Win95 until after the drivers are loaded
during the boot process.

The Red Hat compatability list has a big "?" question mark under the status
column for this device. (that's not very encouraging).

I'm wondering if, since I have two physical drives in my system (one already
has Win95, and has about 5GB free space; the other will be receiving Red
Hat), I thought it might be possible to copy the entire Red Hat installation
CD to the free space of my Win95 disk, copy the Linux installer boot image
to floppy, and then boot off that floppy to begin the install. After that,
if I could point to the hard disk location to which I copied the entire
CD-ROM in order to continue the installation, then everything would work.

Does the installer allow this type of approach?

Also, my BIOS doesn't support >500MB drives. I've been using Maxtor's
Maxblast LBA translator to be able to work with my 12 GB hard drive in
Win95. My 2nd physical drive is 20G. Will I need Maxblast at all? Even if I
don't need a >504MB /boot partition?

Also, would any of this be easier if I selected redhat 6.2 instead of 7.0?

TIA,
-Bob
 Andover, MA



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From: "Edmund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat 7 install problem
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:50:14 +0800

My PC is using Matrox Millennium PCI card... I knew it's old but I think
it's supported in Redhat. Is that any reasons? Is the card working wrong?


"Skip S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:iIO_5.875$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:35:03 +0800, Edmund wrote:
>
> > I've already installed windows 98 on my PC. Then I want to install
redhat
> > 7 and set up a dual boot system. I download the 2 redhat CDs, and put
them
> > in E: root directory(There is a C: primary and D: E: logical partition
on
> > my PC). I don't have a CD ROM so I perform a Hard disk installation.
> >
> > After I boot up my PC with the floppy disk (by boot.img using rawrite),
I
> > go to the graphic mode installation. I choose the language, the keyboard
> > type, iInstallation method (CD ROM, Harddisk). Then it prompts me to
> > choose partition.
> >
> > /dev/hda1
> > /dev/hda5
> > /dev/hda6
> >
> > I choose /dev/hda6, and leave the "directory" blank. Then the following
> > thing are displayed at the bottom of screen
> >
> > Running anaconda -- may take some time to load...
> > install exited abnormally -- received signal 9
> > sending termination signals...done
> > sending kill signals...done
> > disabling swap...
> > unmounting filesystems...
> >           /mnt/runtime/usr
> >           /proc/bus/usb
> >           /mnt/runtime
> >           /dev/pts
> >           /proc
> > you may safely reboot your system
> >
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what's going wrong? thanks!
> >
> >
> Hi...
> A quick look at the Compaq site says that the Trident Blade on the 7470
> uses shared memory with the system, rather than having it's own dedicated
> memory. These kinds of cards aren't directly supported in Linux, out of
the
> box. You need to recompile the kernel with frame buffer support, and then
> use the frame buffer X driver.
>
> I don't know all the details, but I'm sure thats where you need to start
> looking for answers :)
>
> Hope it is helpful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Skip S.
> --
> If we are what we eat, I'm fast, cheap and easy, with cheese.



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