Linux-Setup Digest #238, Volume #20 Sun, 17 Dec 00 08:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: debian and netscape ("Peter T. Breuer")
sendmail questions ("tin")
Re: COM and IRQ help (none)
Re: About Starting ONE kernel from WITHIN another? (none)
Re: Add PATH to the startup file under Suse7.0 (none)
Re: ASUS A7Vm/board, RH7 and IBM ATA100 drive (Simon Gornall)
Re: debian and netscape (David Richard Larochelle)
Voodoo3 3000 & KDE (Leo)
Re: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews (Colin Watson)
which LINUX to choose ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews ("Peter T. Breuer")
dhcpd.conf file ("Roy Troxel")
rpm + BUILDROOT (Tobias Vancura)
Thanks alots ("findo")
Re: 2.2.18 Won't Build??? (Tobias Vancura)
Re: AHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Help! (Stanislaw Flatto)
I've searched the HOW-TO's and read the FAQ's BUT nowhere does it show how to create
a directory on anything but the / on /dev/hdan ("Linux L driver")
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: debian and netscape
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 09:14:33 GMT
David Richard Larochelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Michael Perry wrote:
>> How did you install communicator? Did you do an apt-get install
>> communicator? It grabs a lot of files. You may not have gotten all the
>> netscape files like base or whatever.
>>
> I used dselect and selected the communicator package.
Bad idea, but should work.
> I tired reinstalling and selected every recommended package except foreing
> language support. A quick check a after dselect showed the newly
> installed packages to be:
> communicator-base-476_4.76-1_i386.deb
> netscape-base-476_4.76-1_i386.deb
> communicator-nethelp-476_4.76-1_all.deb
> netscape-base-4_1%3a4.76-1_i386.deb
> communicator-smotif-476_4.76-1_i386.deb netscape-java-476_4.76-1_all.deb
> communicator-spellchk-476_4.76-1_all.deb
> communicator_1%3a4.76-1_i386.deb plugger_3.2-3_i386.deb
and what does
apt-get -f install
do? (add a -d if you want to find out without disturbing your system).
Peter
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From: "tin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: sendmail questions
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 17:13:21 +0800
hi all:
i have a problem can't send mail when i changed my mail server computer
name, then i change back to old computer name, then still have same problem
cant send mail, anyone have idea? i checked nslookup my DNS MX is no problem
i using RH6.2
thank you very much
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From: none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COM and IRQ help
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:13:41 -0800
I am guessing you removed windows entirely. First, what type of mouse is
it? I am guessing a serial since the computer is old. In which case
there are two options com1 or com2, most likely com1. As for the irq,
linux should take care of that itself - its just a mouse.
As for the modem see if my guide helps:
http://home.inreach.com/majackson/neomodem.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> OK, I have installed Radhat 6.1 on my P-120 (debian's gone because lynx
> would not work on it). SO now I do appear to have some primitive X
> windows stuff that comes up when I type "startx" from the root.
>
> But I have no mouse, and that makes it very hard. I try to configure
> the mouse from the command line with "/usr/sbin/mouseconfig" and the
> command does work in that a window comes and ask me to choose a mouse
> (I have tried a number of names, Microsoft compatible, etc) but I have
> a problem with the com nunber: I don't know where any of my hardware
> is, i.e., what COM number it is in, or what IRQ; same thing goes for
> the modem, when I try to configure it: what COM number is it? THe
> comptuer has to tell me what COM number it is, right? How do I make teh
> computer tell me what COM number the mouse and modem is in?
> Or do I arbitrarily choose what COM number each one gets?
> That doesn't seem to be working...
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: About Starting ONE kernel from WITHIN another?
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:18:47 -0800
Have you tried monte?
devren bennett wrote:
>
> try vmware...that should do it. isn't free though
>
> Igor wrote:
>
> > In DOS, there is a program LOADLIN.EXE, which allows me to start
> > an arbitrary version of linux from within DOS.
> >
> > What I want is to be able to start (switch to) another version
> > of kernel from within linux itself. I do not mean just switching
> > a kernel at runtime with all apps still running, I understand
> > that it is impossible. I would like to just kind of boot to another
> > server.
> >
> > The reason for it is that I have a remote colocated server on which I
> > would like to try various kernels. But I want it to boot to a stable
> > version of linux. So I cannot just go around and modify lilo.conf all
> > the time.
> >
> > Any idea?
> > --
> > ***********************************************************************
> > Do your algebra homework at http://www.algebra.com
> > Solve: x^2+4x+3=0 Plot: y=3*sin(x^2) Ask Questions Word Problems
> > ***********************************************************************
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From: none <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Add PATH to the startup file under Suse7.0
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 01:02:37 -0800
Have you looked for /etc/profile or similar?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hiya,
> I know how to add a path of say jdk1.3 (for JAVA 2)on Suse7.0. But each
> time I login, I need to set the path again. So what's the startup file
> for Suse7.0 so that I can edit it to add the path automatically?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: Simon Gornall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ASUS A7Vm/board, RH7 and IBM ATA100 drive
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 09:40:53 +0000
Brian Morrison wrote:
>
> Right
>
> I have installed RH7 on my new system, the install went just fine until
> I removed the CD and rebooted the machine.
>
> After the POST, I get to the point where lilo prints:
>
> L
>
> and then nothing.
>
> I'm assuming that this must be due to the RH7 system being unable to
> deal with the ATA66 controller in the m/board's KT133 chipset due
> either to something missing in the kernel config or to something that2
> I haven't done (kernel parameters?). Perhaps I can fix this without
> rebuilding the kernel, but if not then the 2.4.0-test kernel series
> will sort it out, but is there a fairly painless way to do it using a
> 2.2.x kernel? I'm unsure whether it is going to work with the gcc 2.96
> version that RH7 has installed.
Wouldn't have thought so - I've never had any problems with ATA-66. The
'L' part of the LILO message is printed before it tries to locate the
second stage boot loader (look in /usr/share/doc/lilo-...) Which
normally means the disk geometry is screwed.
If it's a large disk (which it will be if it's less than a few years
old!) then make sure you have either 'lba32' or 'linear' mode enabled
in the lilo.conf file. AFAIK Redhat doesn't support 'lba32' so just
make sure the line 'linear' appears in the top of the /etc/lilo.conf
file, if not - add it, rerun '/sbin/lilo' and see if that fixes your
problems.
Of course, if you already have 'linear' mode there, none of this helps :-)
ATB,
Simon.
--
Physicists get hadrons!
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From: David Richard Larochelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: debian and netscape
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 05:06:01 -0500
After searching through debian bug report logs and found out that the
problem was a plug in netscape didn't like (the real video plugin I
think.)
bug #79240 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=79240&repeatmerged=yes
says:
This is almost always caused by having plugins linked against the libc
that the netscape binary was not.
I'd previously installed netscape and the plugin by hand without a
problem. Apparently the version of netscape in debian uses a different
libc.
Thanks for looking into this for me.
BTW, what are the disadvantages of using dselect instaed of apt-get?
> David Richard Larochelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Michael Perry wrote:
> >> How did you install communicator? Did you do an apt-get install
> >> communicator? It grabs a lot of files. You may not have gotten all the
> >> netscape files like base or whatever.
> >>
> > I used dselect and selected the communicator package.
>
> Bad idea, but should work.
>
> > I tired reinstalling and selected every recommended package except foreing
> > language support. A quick check a after dselect showed the newly
> > installed packages to be:
>
> > communicator-base-476_4.76-1_i386.deb
> > netscape-base-476_4.76-1_i386.deb
> > communicator-nethelp-476_4.76-1_all.deb
> > netscape-base-4_1%3a4.76-1_i386.deb
> > communicator-smotif-476_4.76-1_i386.deb netscape-java-476_4.76-1_all.deb
> > communicator-spellchk-476_4.76-1_all.deb
> > communicator_1%3a4.76-1_i386.deb plugger_3.2-3_i386.deb
>
> and what does
>
> apt-get -f install
>
> do? (add a -d if you want to find out without disturbing your system).
>
>
> Peter
>
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From: Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Voodoo3 3000 & KDE
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 10:17:40 GMT
Seasons Greetings!
I have post an identical thread sometime ago. But for some reasons it just
didn't show up on my PC and get responds. So I am posting it again. If you
have read this post somewhere on the earth, probably kindly replied, thanks
for your time! I will appreciate if you can help me again.
Things go strange on Redhat. Since I upgrade this machine, I can't use the
KDE environment anymore on Redhat, from V6.1 up to V7.0. If I choose to
install KDE (not necessary using it), system will return a message saying X
crashed and ask me to report it as a bug, at the moment it loads GUI.
Nothing is wrong if I only install Gnome, or install all versions of
Mandrake, with absolutely the same X settings.
Since this problem exists in more than one major RH release, I think it is
not be a bug. I am using Voodoo3 3000 in this machines with usual working
HD, monitor and so on.
I want to know, does someone set up RH secessfuly with Voodoo3 and KDE? I
am really puzzled. Any suggestions would be great!
Leo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews
Date: 17 Dec 2000 11:12:24 GMT
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Timothy A. McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> -* Opt non-free trn
>> __ Xtr news inews
>> -* Opt news inewsinn
>> __ Opt news inn2-inews
>
>> I'm suspicious of anything connected with inn or regular inews.
trn requires some kind of inews on the system in order to post, so it
depends on it. (Note that the inews package is actually the one from C
News.)
>> On a previous system I ran leafnode and it handled everything,
Does leafnode provide an 'inews' program? If so, it ought to have a
'Provides: inews' field, as many packages depend on that.
>> I go to [I]nstall, and it says
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>> leafnode task-dialup
>
>Apparently they're not selected. I hate dselect.
All you should need to do is say no to the confirmation question, go
back into the "[S]elect" screen, and ensure they're marked to install.
If there *is* a problem, you'll be told about it. I suspect you may have
accidentally marked some other news transport system to be installed;
for example, if you tried to install the inews package itself, it
depends on cnews.
>> Eventually I went to the Debian Web pages, found the latest stable trn
>> package, downloaded it, and figured out how to do
>> dpkg --force-depends -i trn_3.6-13.deb
--force-depends is almost always a really, *really* bad idea, and I
wouldn't get into the habit of using it. Lack of dependencies usually
indicates a genuine problem (unless you're running unstable, when it
could be just a cock-up, and even then it deserves a bug report).
>Surely it doesn't depend on anything .. let me see ...
>
> Provides: news-reader
> Depends: libc6, libc6 (>= 2.1), libncurses4 (>= 4.2-3.1), inews
>
>Well, apparantly it does have a dependency on inews! I think that's a
>dependency bug. It should depend on "news-server" or some other
>virtual.
There is no bug. inews is a mixed virtual package; it is provided both
by the inews package itself and by other packages like inewsinn. Virtual
packages don't always have role-based names.
>Read the README and later, if necessary, talk to the maintainer about
>it:
>
> Maintainer: Matthew Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Version: 3.6-11
If you do find a genuine bug, please talk to the bug tracking system
instead (see the documentation on http://bugs.debian.org/) so that the
conversation is properly recorded in case somebody else takes over the
trn package in the future.
>> I have yet to see whether it *works* or not, mind you. ... Ah, no:
>> /usr/bin/Pnews: inews: command not found
>
>You must be forgetting to run it in remote mode. It's looking on your
>system for a news server. You want it to look elsewhere.
Even if you run trn in remote mode, it looks for a local inews to do the
transport. The inewsinn and inn2-inews packages are there so that you
don't have to have a full news server in order to have the inews that
comes with inn or inn2 respectively.
>> Anyone with a good explanation of why asking to *install* trn and
>> *ignore* three others results in wanting to *remove* leafnode and
>> task-dialup?
>
>Presumably because they were only included in the first place because
>of "suggested"s that you have now invalidated.
dselect won't remove packages on that basis, nor will any of Debian's
other packaging tools to the best of my knowledge. They will only remove
packages due to explicit requests, conflicts, or the removal of
dependencies.
>> Anyone willing to suggest which of inews, inewsinn, or inn2-inews I
>> ought to install?
>
>inews is what trn says it wants.
[cjw44@riva ~]$ dpkg -p inewsinn | grep Provides
Provides: inews
[cjw44@riva ~]$ dpkg -p inn2-inews | grep Provides
Provides: inews
It doesn't really matter much. I use inewsinn, but then I have inn
installed too. From the looks of inews' dependencies, you don't want
that one.
--
Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"Microsoft deprived consumers of software innovation that they very
well may have found valuable." - USA vs. MS findings, para. 410
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,at.linux,ger.pc.linux,linux.debian.qa,linux.debian.user
Subject: which LINUX to choose
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:27:27 +0100
I have a brand new 30GB desktop which came preinstalled with WinDoze ME.
I want to setup a LINUX and a DOS/WinDoze partition. The availlable
Linux versions to me are
DEBIAN GNU/Linux 2.0
SuSE 6.4 Evaluationsversion
PC Magazin Linux 6.0 Easy Install Edition
I do not want to create a "religious war" about Linux distributions but
would appreciate any input about recommendations on which of the above
mentioned versions I should pick.
TIA
HP Staber/Salzburg
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Debian dselect problem: trn, leafnode, inews
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 11:34:33 GMT
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[attribs lost, sorry]
>>Presumably because they were only included in the first place because
>>of "suggested"s that you have now invalidated.
> dselect won't remove packages on that basis, nor will any of Debian's
> other packaging tools to the best of my knowledge. They will only remove
> packages due to explicit requests, conflicts, or the removal of
> dependencies.
You mean that packages dependent on absent packages will be slated for
removal? Is there any way to say "no" to remove and "yes" to install
at the same time? I am having a bit of a job stopping debian removing
jlex and other trivia because I replaced jdk1.1 with jdk1.2 from
blackdown ...
.. as far as I can see, I have to install the java-virtual-machine-dummy
package. But trying to download it through apt-get, apt-get bows out
claiming that I should fix dependencies first. That would remove the
things I want the dummy package to shore up.
A fix would be an explicit way to edit the dependency info. It appears
to be present in /var/lib/dpkg/status, and I've managed to trick one
system into installing the dummy package while not removing the rest
that way. But I believe that adding my jdk1.2 package to a "dummy
debian server" and adding the dummy server to /etc/apt/conf/sources_list
(approx) would be the better way to go.
Any suggestions?
Peter
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From: "Roy Troxel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dhcpd.conf file
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:31:21 GMT
I'm trying to set up a DHCP server on a linux 6.1 box. I'm trying to attach
the address 192.168.0.102 to workstation windows2000. Instead, it always
attaches the address 192.168.0.100, which works OK, but I would rather be
able to assign a specific address.
When I run the ipconfig /all command, the DNS servers (from my ISP) do not
appear. Nor does the gateway, so I can't ping anything on the internet, but
I can ping workstations on the intranet.
The dhcpd.conf file is reproduced below. The two subnets are for two
different NICs, the first goes to the internet and the second is for my
intranet.
default-lease-time 86400;
max-lease-time 86400;
option routers 192.168.0.1, 24.13.245.254;
option broadcast address 24.13.245.255;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option domain-name-servers 24.5.80.33, 24.5.80.34;
subnet 24.13.245.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 24.13.245.100 24.13.245.150;
}
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.150;
}
host windows2000 {
hardware ethernet 00:60:08:14:19:53;
fixed-address 192.168.0.102;
}
Thanks, in advance,
Roy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Vancura)
Subject: rpm + BUILDROOT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Dec 2000 13:43:55 +0100
Helle everybody,
I was wondering where I can setup the directory that should
be use to build an rpm file. Usually it is
/usr/src/redhat/BUILD (on RedHat systems) but I don't want
my /usr partition used for this, rather something like /var.
Probably I was blind, but I could not find anything in
rpmrc.
Any ideas? Thanks a lot,
Tobias
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Tobias Vancura Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "findo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Thanks alots
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 08:46:02 +0800
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Vancura)
Subject: Re: 2.2.18 Won't Build???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 Dec 2000 13:47:53 +0100
As was pointed out earlier, the compiler that ships with RH7
is not suited to compile kernels. RH ships with kgcc, the
"kernel gcc" which should be able to compile the kernel
(will have to try these days). Editing the main Makefile
should to it. Look for the line defining the compiler (cc) and
replace it with kcc. That should do it.
Cheers, Tobias
n Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:50:31 GMT, Fred Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>drivers/scsi/scsi.a(aic7xxx.o): In function `aic7xxx_load_seeprom':
>aic7xxx.o(.text+0x11813): undefined reference to `memcpy'
>make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
>
>Adaptec 29160, RH7
>
>gcc --version reports 2.96
>
>Anyone have an idea?
>
>Thanks, Fred
>
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Tobias Vancura Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Help!
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 00:02:44 +1100
Soundman wrote:
> I have had extensive expierence with windows 9x and nt but linux seems to be
> a cryptic maze with no crear directions.
If your experience in NT is as you describe it than it is just semantics.
The problems and the solutions are similar, so get just a dictionary translating
terms to Unix/Linux language.
Have fun.
Stanislaw.
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From: "Linux L driver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I've searched the HOW-TO's and read the FAQ's BUT nowhere does it show how to
create a directory on anything but the / on /dev/hdan
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:24:30 -0000
I wish to move my /usr to another partition. I know how to do it but for one
thing. How do you create a /newusr on a different partition to the one
that contains the / mountpoint. I have the following 2 partitions:
/dev/hda7 = mount point /
/dev/hda8 = mount point /home
If I wanted to create a /newusr on /dev/hda7 I would cd / and then mkdie
/newusr - easy, so I thought
cd /home and then mkdir ../newusr but it didn't work.
For a floppy I would cd /mnt/floppy and then mkdir /mnt/floppy/newusr
but none of this helps with
/dev/hda8 my other partition. Please help
TIA
Ian Turnbull
0961 931941
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web : www.turnbui.freeserve.co.uk
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