Linux-Setup Digest #266, Volume #20 Thu, 21 Dec 00 14:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Torvalds v Gates in next Superbowl Deathmatch? (well, actually an email conf
question) (Nehali Neogi)
KDE/Xserver pb on Mandrake (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= MOUGEL)
Re: Gradual Time Sync (Dave Barnett)
file permissions ("Lucien")
Re: CPU temp (ekk)
Re: which LINUX to choose (John Travis)
Dual Xeon hangs (ekk)
What's System.map ? (Djails)
Re: Need help: Mounting windows drives on linux (srinivas_vanjari)
Re: Resize NTFS without Administrator Privs to Install RedHat -- Please (David
Vidal Rodriguez)
Re: Need help: X display always opens in 8 bpp mode (srinivas_vanjari)
Winframe 1.7 through IPChains Masq Firewall (Robert Alberti)
HELP: Cannot login (GUI Mode) (Subha Pindiproli)
Newbie & LILO SuSE 7.0 - Linux fails to boot after install ("Kevin")
relative newbie stumpted by partial RedHat 7 install (William Mutch)
partition magic (Ken)
Re: Newbie & LILO SuSE 7.0 - Linux fails to boot after install ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: relative newbie stumpted by partial RedHat 7 install ("Peter T. Breuer")
rh7.0 network printing (jaalaw1)
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From: Nehali Neogi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Torvalds v Gates in next Superbowl Deathmatch? (well, actually an email
conf question)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:06:43 GMT
In article <91n0ok$6u7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul Cody Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> PROBLEM 1:
>
>
> the header becomes something like:
>
> Message-Id: <00110118461105.03796@valinux-system>
>
> Posting to the discussion groups I am subscribed no longer works since
the
> spam filters detect that 'valinux-system' is not a valid domain and
the
> message is rejected. So I'm cut off from discussions til I get this
> sorted out.
>
> But here's where I'm confused: Since my linux computer is a desktop
and
>
>
> What's the right way to setup sendmail under such conditions?
Hmm...that's an interesting situation. In my case my linux box is
directly connected to the cable modem and is a router, masq gateway and
sendmail MTA. So messages get proper message IDs with the hostname
"xxx.ne.mediaone.net"
Something you can try: Check what the External IP on your linksys router
resolves to. You can put that name as one of the hostname in your
/etc/hosts file on your valinux-system. Again, this is just a
workaround!
>
> PROBLEM 2:
>
> Sendmail takes forever to send a message (about 60 seconds). It's
very
> annoying. I know it's my fault, but how do I fix it?
>
ok, looks like your hostname/domain configuration is not correct.
Assuming you don't have a "real" domain, you can use "localdomain" as
the default domain and sendmail will be happier.
Make sure you /etc/hosts looks like:
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain
x.x.x.x valinux-system valinux-system.localdomain
Hope this helps!
-nn
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= MOUGEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDE/Xserver pb on Mandrake
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 15:56:00 GMT
Hi!!
I do not know why, but after a long period without any pb, I rebooted my
Linux PC and KDE did not start. Instead of my coloured Screen with the
invite box login/pwd, I have the black screen with the giant pingouin,
asking for login and pwd, but I can only run with the command line, no
more graphical interface.
When booting, I got the following messages:
shutting down XFont server: FAILED
Starting Kheader A mySQLd process already exists
cat: write error: No space left on device.
I tried to start with xstart. I got a whole bunch of messages, to sum
up; Can't connect to Xserver. I tried to start KDE, with the kde command
line: it tried to start but failed. Except this, the whole system works
(FTP, web, mail, ldap, fetchmail...). I am absolute beginner with this.
Any clue?
Thanks
Fred
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From: Dave Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gradual Time Sync
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 10:11:56 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ram:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How would I know that the time diff comes under the category "big jump" or
> "small jump". Syr for example, Server A is 1 day behind and Server B is 5 day
> ahead of the correct time, and I use ntpd, how much time would they take to
> come into sync and how "big/small" would be the jumps...
>
> Ram
My understanding of ntp(d)/xntp(d) is that it *CANNOT* deal with time
that is further off than a given period -- I believe that period to be
one day.
The command "ntpdate" is used to make the "big jump" that ntp(d)/xntp(d)
cannot handle.
I'm not sure why you're worrying about this. Startup xntpd, let it
handle the time sync, and go on with life.
Cheers,
Dave
--
Dave Barnett System Software Engineer x1434
"Security through obscurity is no security at all."
- comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup posting
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From: "Lucien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: file permissions
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:29:22 GMT
Hi,
I have a rather annoying problem :
I have a text file belonging to root which permissions are 644
I edit it with vi, insert some text, and type :w, it's refused (OK so far)
I type :w! and... the file is written !!
The worse is that the file now belongs to user !
Does anyone has got an idea of how this is possible and how to prevent it ?
(my linux is a RH 6.1)
Thank you for helping
Lucien
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From: ekk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: CPU temp
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:33:52 -0500
Hello
I have a dual Xeon 550 machine that hangs often, somewhat randomly when
I'm doing some CPU intensive stuff. In the most recent crash, I was
heavily using only one CPU, It doesn't seem to be CPU temp related,
becuase just before it crashed, the temp was 45.5 deg. C. I'm running
RH 6.1, kernel 2.2.14 - configured pretty much the same way as another
dual 650 Pentium III which has no trouble. /var/log/messages contains
little helpful info. I am running all the same daemons as the 650.
Anyone know what's going on? In the meantime, I'm going to put 2.2.16
on there to see if that helps.
Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Travis)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,at.linux,ger.pc.linux,linux.debian.qa,linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: which LINUX to choose
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:30:39 GMT
And Henry_Barta spoke unto the masses...
> 'dselect' to be replaced? Well... When it works, it works well.
> But when I want to override it, it really becomes a pitched
> battle. Perhaps there are features of which I'm not aware, but
> when I have to wrestle to get the S/W to do what I want (even
> though it thinks it knows better) then I start to want to move
> on. It was 'dselect' that moved me away from Debian in the
> first place.
Why not just use APT? It is less picky than dselect (doesn't force suggests).
You were initially using tasksel to select the package groups before dselect.
jt
--
Debian Gnu/Linux [Woody]
2.4.0-test9-ReiserFs|XFree4.0.1|nVidia.95 Drivers
You mean there's a stable tree?
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From: ekk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Dual Xeon hangs
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:36:43 -0500
Sorry for the duplicate post - I noticed I hadn't changed the subject
line.
ekk wrote:
> Hello
> I have a dual Xeon 550 machine that hangs often, somewhat randomly when
> I'm doing some CPU intensive stuff. In the most recent crash, I was
> heavily using only one CPU, It doesn't seem to be CPU temp related,
> becuase just before it crashed, the temp was 45.5 deg. C. I'm running
> RH 6.1, kernel 2.2.14 - configured pretty much the same way as another
> dual 650 Pentium III which has no trouble. /var/log/messages contains
> little helpful info. I am running all the same daemons as the 650.
> Anyone know what's going on? In the meantime, I'm going to put 2.2.16
> on there to see if that helps.
> Ken
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From: Djails <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What's System.map ?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:36:27 GMT
Hi,
I got a mandrake 7.0 v2 installed (kernel 2.2.14) and I uprgade to
kernel 2.4. There were no problems during make bzImage nor during make
modules.
as to make modules_install, i had to upgrade to a new modutils.rpm
version, because of an error saying : depmod -F : bad argument. When
upgraded, no more errors
appeared , but I had a big surprise after rebooting:
modules didn't work anymore. During boot , I got an very long list
saying for each module:
xxxxx.O: can't locate module xxxxxx
I tried a depmod -av as root, and i got the same list.
some shells commands (as top) also said : /boot/System.map has an
incorrect version
I also noticed something strange, but I'm sure it has something to do
with my problem:
here 's the begining of /var/log/message after reboot:
Dec 20 13:25:42 [...] syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
Dec 20 13:25:42 [...] syslog: syslogd startup succeeded
Dec 20 13:25:42 [...] kernel: klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.
Dec 20 13:25:42 [...] syslog: klogd startup succeeded
Dec 20 13:25:42 [...] kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map
Dec 20 13:25:42 [...] kernel: Symbol table has incorrect version
number. Dec 20 13:25:42 [...] kernel: Cannot find map file.
Dec 20 13:25:42 [...] kernel: No module symbols loaded.
So what does that mean ?????
A new directory called 2.4.0-test10 has been created in /lib/module,
but it's empty... although I chose to build some stuff as modules (in
make menuconfig) . Well, I
forgot one thing: i used make menuconfig instead of make xconfig coz
xconfig reported some errors (Let's say it because kernel2.4.0 is a beta
release) .
So here 's my questions:
What's that file System.map, what is it used for ?
How does the kernel know that is has to look for modules in that or
that directory ?
How to update System.map file after compilation ?
Lastly, what is there to do after make modules_install in order to make
them work properly after reboot ?
ThanX for your help
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From: srinivas_vanjari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help: Mounting windows drives on linux
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:43:31 GMT
Hi,
Thanks to both of you. vfat32 works.
Merry Christmas!!
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From: David Vidal Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Resize NTFS without Administrator Privs to Install RedHat -- Please
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:57:54 +0100
John wrote:
> I used the DOS based (floppy) partition magic to get Linux installed. It's
> now running and happy.
>
> I just need a way to edit the boot.ini file so I can use the NT boot manager
> to start linux. Since I can't login I can't modify the file via NT.
>
> I can mount the ntfs (read-only). I'm scared to use the read/write ntfs
> because it might mess up the NT.
>
> Any ideas?
OK, I have both Win2000 and Linux running on the same computer, and I am using
the 2000's boot loader for starting them. My "C:" drive (the one the system
boots) is NTFS. Suppose you have the Linux bootsector in a file called
bootsect.lin in C:\ . From within Linux (supposing that that partition is
mounted on /nt) you can rewrite the file without modifying any of the NTFS'
structures (which is the really dangerous thing when writing) like this:
dd if=/dev/myLinuxPartition of=/nt/bsect.lin bs=512 conv=notrunc count=1
If you don't like having rw access to NTFS, mount it readonly, but let ntfs.o
with read/write support, and remount it rw only when you update the file. It is
somehow tricky, but it works!
Regards,
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From: srinivas_vanjari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help: X display always opens in 8 bpp mode
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:54:42 GMT
Hi,
> startx -- -bpp 16 >/tmp/X 2>&1
> and then when X has started look at the file /tmp/X to see why it did
> not start in 16 bit mode.
Those messages solved the problem. When i did what you told me to do, i
found that the -bpp option is no longer supported on RH7 and it has
been changed to -depth. That's it..
BTW what does 2>&1 mean ??
Thanks for your help,
Merry Christmas!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Alberti)
Crossposted-To: comp.security.firewalls,alt.os.citrix
Subject: Winframe 1.7 through IPChains Masq Firewall
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:30:52 GMT
I'm installing a Redhat 6.2 (16-3 kernel) IPChains firewall for a client with
Winframe 1.7. With the firewall in-between my WInframe client can't
communicate with the server: the client works fine with the firewall removed.
Server inside NIC FW outside NIC client
[192.168.1.6 ]--[192.168.1.7 192.168.0.2]---[192.168.0.69]
[255.255.255.0] [255.255.255.0 255.255.0.0] [255.255.0.0 ]
ipmasqadm portfw for 1494 server addr:
1495, 1604, 3389 TCP&UDP <==192.168.1.6
There are two problems:
1) When the firewall is in the way, the client begins by sending an ARP
request for the server address. When the ARP request fails no session is
initiated.
2) When the firewal is not in the way and everything works ,but communications
take place on port 3389, not the ports 1494 and 1604 as I've seen documented.
However, the ARP problem (problem 1) renders this concern moot as my client
never even tries to talk to the server.
I've got ports 1494, 1495 and 1604 open for TCP and UDP, but that's not doing
it. In fact what is happening is that my client never even starts trying to
communicate on those ports. Instead, it begins by broadcasting an ARP request
to the server address. If that gets no response (if the firewall is in place)
then I never connect.
If I remove the firewall and sniff the line everything works, but I see
communications to port 3389 on the Winframe server, not 1494 or 1604.
Opening up 3389 on the firewall doesn't work -- nothing works in fact --
because with the firewall in place the initial ARP request is never answered.
Can I get this to work without having to put static routes on all clients?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Robert Alberti
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From: Subha Pindiproli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP: Cannot login (GUI Mode)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:30:04 -0000
Help I cannot get to login from GUI mode (KDE), it sits there for a
while and comes back to the login prompt.. with an OK sign (Gui-Widget)
during login process..
However I can login to the system in ASCII mode, and get into KDE Desktop
by typing 'startx'
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From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie & LILO SuSE 7.0 - Linux fails to boot after install
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 17:57:25 -0000
Reply-To: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi I would appreciate a little help :-)
SuSE 7.0 installed on its own drive and set as boot disk in the Bios.
There are two other drives with FAT32 and a bootable CDrom.
I can install and run linux up until I reboot and then LILO fails with LO on
the command line.
I would be happy to boot with a floppy or be able to do the Linux equivalent
of SYS C:
What I have seen so far I like but I don't thing a complete re-install every
time I want to use Linux is the best way of using it
|<evin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Mutch)
Subject: relative newbie stumpted by partial RedHat 7 install
Date: 21 Dec 2000 18:17:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not much of a unix person. I previously succeeded in getting RH6.1
installed with text mode and manual partitioning on a heap of drives and boards
salvaged off the dumpster dock. Then my boss told me to try 7.0 on a
previously fully functional NT40 box. After half a dozen reloads from orginal
Red Hat install CD's I finally get a clean boot...with mouse and video
functioning properly. I can ping anywhere in my domain. 'startx' runs and
gives me a single pretty colored terminal window.
How do I get a GNOME desktop and file manager to open?
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From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: partition magic
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:30:05 -0000
I am trying to install open linux 2.3 after giving up on trying to get
mandrake to install
I have a Ausu P5A MB a new maxtor ATA 100 7200 rpm hard drive with a ATA
100 card
I use Partition Magic to make a Linux Partition it seem to work ok but
linux won't install on the partition
I open the file "partinfo" in partition magic it tell me That I have
error #107 Partition begins after end of disk
error #109 Partition end after end of disk
error #110 Number of sector is incnsistent
error #114 starting sector is incnsistent
Should I use fdisk to make a new dos partition then use partition magic to
make it a linux partition
would this work ? or do I need to fdisk all the hard drive and reinstall
window then make a new linux partition ? thanks
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie & LILO SuSE 7.0 - Linux fails to boot after install
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:46:40 GMT
Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> SuSE 7.0 installed on its own drive
Which?
> and set as boot disk in the Bios.
Usually impossible if it's not the first master or slave.
> There are two other drives with FAT32 and a bootable CDrom.
And which are those?
> I can install and run linux up until I reboot and then LILO fails with LO on
Imposible. Must be L, LI, or LIL, or else L0000000.
> the command line.
> I would be happy to boot with a floppy or be able to do the Linux equivalent
> of SYS C:
Do it then.
> What I have seen so far I like but I don't thing a complete re-install every
> time I want to use Linux is the best way of using it
It isn't. Just make a boot disk. Start the cd again, and choose setup,
and "make boot disk".
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: relative newbie stumpted by partial RedHat 7 install
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:46:42 GMT
William Mutch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> functioning properly. I can ping anywhere in my domain. 'startx' runs and
> gives me a single pretty colored terminal window.
> How do I get a GNOME desktop and file manager to open?
You start it. Man startx and put the appropriate choice in your
.xinitrc.
Mind you, if you chose RH 7.0, almost anything can happen or be true
...
Peter
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From: jaalaw1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rh7.0 network printing
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:08:47 -0800
I have upgraded to rh7 with LPRng. My old network printer now wont
accept a job without several minutes dela, if at all. The docs
reference a filter ifhp that is not on my system.
The network printer is running rh6.2 and prints fine from a 6.2 client.
I have 2 rh7 systems at home, network printing is not a problem; no
special configuration required.
The spool file goes out immediately and sits in the printer spooler
without any action. Even in lock file,no action
Any help greatly appreciated.
rfjones
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