Linux-Setup Digest #279, Volume #20 Sun, 24 Dec 00 03:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: recompiled kernel doesn't boot (Steve Bradley)
Re: Linux simulation program? (Adam Schuetze)
Re: Linux simulation program? ("Al Morgan")
Re: Complete setup failue (Keith)
Re: Trouble with epson photo 870 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Stopping Graphical Logons (David Spigelman)
INSTALL HELP!!!!!!! ("DM")
Re: Stopping Graphical Logons (David)
Wierd display problem with Mandrake 7.2 (Dawnmist)
Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot (Tom Szczesniak)
SuSE 6.4 - services not starting at boot (Blackberry)
How to set color depth using GNOME starting as GDM? (pete@x)
Re: help - install failure (mpulliam)
Re: which LINUX to choose (John Hasler)
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From: Steve Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recompiled kernel doesn't boot
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 01:46:49 GMT
Anna Luigi wrote:
> Yet
> still no APM! The bios certainly has all the support for APM, since I
> looked
Just a stupid question, since it hasn't been asked yet...OK - two questio=
ns:
1. Your BIOS may support APM, or ACPI, or both, but did you ENABLE them i=
n=20
the BIOS?
2. How do you know that APM isn't working - I mean, what is the machine=20
NOT doing that it should be?
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Steve Bradley
Registered Linux User#187404
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ICQ#19864616
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adam Schuetze)
Crossposted-To:
linux.news.groups,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux simulation program?
Reply-To: adam at adam-schuetze dot org
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 02:09:19 GMT
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:07:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good afternoon. I am a newbie to linux and don't wish to install linux
> on my Win98 PC at home. However, I would like to learn and practice
> linux commands, etc. on my PC. By doing so, after a while, perhaps, I
> will be comfortable enough to partition a drive and actually install
> Linux.
>
> So, does anyone know of any Linux simulation programs? (Just a simple
> program I can run and learn linux from a book.)
I am not aware of any simulation programs.
Reading is really important, but nothing teaches you the system
better than playing with it. I read linux books for six months
before I even tried an installation, but only because I didn't
own a computer at the time. Once I was installed and running, I
learned more in the next few weeks than I had in the previous
six months.
Do you have a spare hard disk? You can do a minimal
installation on 1 gb. Hard disks that size are cheap like
borscht, if you don't have a spare. Your local used computer
parts dealer probably has disks that size for (I'm totally
guessing here) less than 50 dollars.
Swap disk drives (via your bios) and install linux on the second
disk. That way, everything is independant, and if you make a
big mistake on linux, you won't accidentally trash your windows
disk.
Or, if it is just the partitioning that you find daunting, try to
get a copy of Partition Magic. It's a windows application. You
can move partitions, resize, add etc.. and it will do linux and
linux-swap partitions. Using regular linux partition tools
(cfdisk, fdisk) you cannot resize partitions without destroying
them, so Partition Magic works nicely if you are trying to
modify an existing disk.
I always advocate reading, but -nothing- compares to actually
using the system.
later, and good luck,
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From: "Al Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux simulation program?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:06:14 -0800
> Good afternoon. I am a newbie to linux and don't wish to install linux
> on my Win98 PC at home. However, I would like to learn and practice
> linux commands, etc. on my PC. By doing so, after a while, perhaps, I
> will be comfortable enough to partition a drive and actually install
> Linux.
>
> So, does anyone know of any Linux simulation programs? (Just a simple
> program I can run and learn linux from a book.)
>
> Thanks very much in advance!
I've never used it before, but try this:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Spotlight/Linux4win/
It's a full distrubution of linux that can be placed inside of a Windows
partition.
And please, in the future, don't post to 5 newsgroups at once.
Al Morgan [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith)
Subject: Re: Complete setup failue
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 03:28:31 GMT
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:28:44 +0000, Charles Robertson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just tried installing RedHat 7.0 on an old PC (which should be
> compatible). I changed my BIOS settings to boot from the CD ROM, put the
> first installation CD into the drive and rebooted. The screen came up, I
> pressed enter to install it, an it started going.. it filled the entire
> screen with.. whatever ever it is that is prints when installing. It
> asked me some questions, and when it got to the point of asking me
> whether I wanted to set up as a workstation, server, etc., I moved back
> to this machine to find out the difference, but while I did that, the
> machine I was installing it on... shut down. beeped, turned the monitor
> off, then started booting again.. I managed to get back into the install
> procedure but it happened again.
Return your BIOS to it's prior config and then create a boot disk
in DOS using RAWRITE.*
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Keith (Use Reply-to for email)
Where do you discover free software for Windows? Strongsignals DOT COM is a
great place to start: http://Strongsignals.com "Where would Christianity be
if Jesus got eight to fifteen years with time off for good behavior?" NY
State Senator James Donovan, speaking in support of capital punishment.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Trouble with epson photo 870
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 03:30:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > >
> > > > O.k. Here's the whole thing.
> What spooler are you using?
> --
I'm using lpd.....I think. I set this up in printtool and my spooler
directory is /var/spool/lpd/photo870
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From: David Spigelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Stopping Graphical Logons
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 05:00:15 GMT
Alright, so I made a mistake. During RedHat 7's installation procedure,
I set it up for graphical logon. Now I don't want it anymore, but I
don't want to reconfigure the whole X configuration either. I figure
there's some line in some config file somewhere that does it. But I
don't know which one, or what line. I looked through the XF86Config
file, but didn't find it.
Any help would be appreciated.
--
-- DS
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From: "DM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: INSTALL HELP!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:16:48 -0800
I just installed Linux Mandrak 7.2 onto my Maxtor HDD (slave) 2 GB dedicated
to Linux only (no Windows installed). I also have win98 installed on my
master HDD 6GB.
I followed the instructions and chose Recommended, custom, and expert
installations. When
the files finished copying, a message box with the message "idconfig
failed!" popped out. When I clicked "OK", it said "Reading list of
packages..." (or something like that) and then it gave me a "hdlist not
found..." error message.
Another message box then popped out, prompting me to partition the
drive.
What is the problem here? Why can't I install successfully? HELP!!!!
Thanks in advance,
Danish
NOTE: My slave Maxtor HDD isn't shown in my hardware profile cuz it has a
linux partition and Windows cant see it:
Computer Profile Summary
Operating System System Model
Windows 98 No details available
Processor Main Circuit Board
350 megahertz Intel Pentium II
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
P2B-F REV 1.xx
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software, Inc. ASUS P2B-F ACPI BIOS Revision 1009.B
05/10/99
Drives Memory Modules
6.44 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
3.10 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
HP CD-Writer+ 8100 [CD-ROM drive]
MITSUMI CD-ROM FX4010M!B
Generic IDE hard disk drive
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")
Generic IDE hard disk drive (6.44 GB) 64 Megabytes Installed
Memory
64 Megabyte Module Size - 1 Installed
3 Memory Sockets are Empty
Controllers Display
Standard Floppy Disk Controller
Intel 82371AB/EB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) 3dfx Voodoo3 [Display
adapter]
ViewSonic EA771 [Monitor]
Bus Adapters Multimedia
Intel 82371AB/EB PCI to USB Universal Host Controller Creative
AWE64
16-bit Audio (SB16 compatible)
Creative AWE64 Wavetable MIDI (AWE32 compatible)
Gameport Joystick (no joystick connected)
Buses Communications
PCI bus
ISA bus Sportster 56000 Fax Internal [Modem]
AOL Adapter
Intel(R) PRO/100+ Management Adapter
Microsoft Virtual Private Networking Adapter
Network Card MAC Address:
Other Devices
Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
EPSON Stylus COLOR 670 [Printer]
USB Root Hub
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stopping Graphical Logons
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 05:54:36 GMT
David Spigelman wrote:
>
> Alright, so I made a mistake. During RedHat 7's installation procedure,
> I set it up for graphical logon. Now I don't want it anymore, but I
> don't want to reconfigure the whole X configuration either. I figure
> there's some line in some config file somewhere that does it. But I
> don't know which one, or what line. I looked through the XF86Config
> file, but didn't find it.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
In RH 6.x it was in /etc/inittab with the line:
id:5:initdefault: # boots to X
Change the 5 to the run level you want to boot.
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From: Dawnmist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Wierd display problem with Mandrake 7.2
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 17:06:17 +1100
Hi,
I'd originally tried Linux with Red Hat 6.0, and had some problems with the
X config trying to swap the horizontal and vertical sync rates for my
monitor, resulting in a display that only took up about 3/4 of the width of
the screen and was slightly larger than the height of my screen. In setting
those sync rates myself, the problem went away.
I've recently replaced the old Linux with Mandrake 7.2, and am having the
same problems with the display. However, I cannot get into the section
where I had previously set the rates myself in Red Hat. I'm currently using
an LG Studioworks 55V monitor and a 3D Blaster Savage4 Video Card with 4Mb
memory. In speaking with LG, I've added the following line to the MonitorDB
config file for the monitor:
LG StudioWorks 55V; 65; 30.0-54.0; 50.0-120.0
and using Xconfigurator set this as my monitor, but I still have the
strange shaped display. I'm in 800x600 mode (although it appears to be
actually displaying 600x800 as a size), and the screen is capable of sizes
up to 1024x768.
I'm getting *really* frustrated with the screen being "squished" - can
anyone point me in a direction to try to fix the display so that it uses
the screen properly?
Thankyou!
Dawnmist
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Szczesniak)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 Dual Boot
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 04:04:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 05:05:11 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer"
>. Go look and see if the driver
>is installed using lsmod (no I'm not telling you where on your disk is
>the lsmod executable). Read the Modules-HOWTO if you don't understand
>what you see. Read the ALSA driver notes for details on your driver
>setup (should be "insert and go").
Okay, the lsmod is in root/sbin/ Please be patient, I have no clue
how linux or the kde really works yet. I'm not sure how to execute
this executable. The click in the gui doesn't work. The "run"
command in the gui doesn't work and in the terminal window it won't
run either. Do I have to change directories to get into that
directory? So is there a "path" command/feature as in dos? Or is
this what has to be "mounted"?. I really don't have a clue what
mounting is. So since I found it, would you help me run it?
l.
>
>> My stuff is unmuted and volume up on the sound mixer.
>
>Which mixer? You need a special mixer for alsa drivers usually. And how
>do you know WHICH device you unmuted and turned volume up on? The
>live! card has lots of inputs and outputs. All of them need to be
>unmuted and at max to get you going.
The alsa stuff is in root/lib/modules/ (then)
2.2.17-21mdk and
2.2.17-21mdksmp
Again I don't understand what to do with them. I did read the alsa
notes in the HOWTO. I don't know how to "enable" anything. I see a
set of files. Maybe I should just wait for the next local linux users
and see if someone would come over for an afternoon.
Basic stuff like how do you run an executable shouldn't be this
unfriendly. (not complaining, just on the low end of the learning
>
>What did your kernel say when you inserted the driver (yes, this is a
>a leading question and I am expecting you to research in order to answer
>it)? Which is your kernel?
I don't know which file is the driver or how to insert it. I assume
it needs to get inserted into the kernel? Is that correct?
>
>>>Read the CD-Writing-HOWTO.
>
>> Thanks. I found that part of the manual. I think that stuff was to
>
>No, not the manual, the HOWTO.
Yes, I meant HOWTO. I did read the HOWTO mentioned here, just
generically called it "manual".
>>>> My changes to add users don't show up at the log in screen
>>>?? Edit /etc/passwd and run pwconv.
>
>>>SOunds like a mandrake bug. Edit /etc/passswd yourself instead of
>>>relying on some gui thing of mandrakes.
I re-installed and it's working.
Hope you didn't mind the email too. I just wanted you to know I'm
still around and just away from the pc working hard and long so I can
take a few days off for Christmas. Have a Merry Christmas!
_______________________
Tom Szc....
at thomasz@jef(nospamminallowed)fnet.org
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From: Blackberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE 6.4 - services not starting at boot
Date: 22 Dec 2000 09:35:23 -0800
I've got a SuSE 6.4 system.
It defaults to enter runlevel 3 when booted.
In /etc/rc.d/rc3.d, as per the SuSE boot philosophy, there are symlinks to
scripts to start up mysql, named, and smb (S11named, S20mysql, S20smb). The
system created those.
Those software packages are installed and work fine.
When I boot, they are not started.
When I run them manually, they start up and run fine.
There are no messages in /var/log/messages about any service except named, and
it does not generate any messages at all at boot time (not even errors). It
generates log messages normally when I start it manually.
How do I get these services to start automatically at startup? I tried creating
my own scripts (which don't do any checking, they just issue the start commands)
and linking them into rc3.d also, but they don't run either.
====================
"It's enough to make you wonder sometimes if you're on the right planet."
-- Frankie Goes to Hollywood
Brian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- remove "NOSPAM"
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From: pete@x <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to set color depth using GNOME starting as GDM?
Date: 22 Dec 2000 09:40:19 -0800
hello,
I just installed GNOME. When I try to start it as
$startx -- -bpp 24
where my .xinitrc is like this:
============
#!/bin/bash
panel &
exec gnome-wm
============
It comes up, but it sort of not working right. But When I start
it by typing 'gdm' and then select 'gnome' as the session to use,
then it works better (I can now see all the icons up, does not
crash as much, etc..., I suspect when I use my .xinitrc I have a
wrong path somethere, and it is picking an old gnome on my disk?
not sure, but when I start it as gdm, I am using root account, and
that does not have the problem)
Any way, this is not the problem, I can just type 'gdm' and startup GNOME,
my question is that it seems to default to 8 bits per pixel in this case,
and I want to run it at depth 24 instead. not sure how to do that.
I looked at /etc/opt/gnome/gdm/gdm.conf for a place to set this,
but can;t seem to see it.
any idea?
thanks!
pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mpulliam)
Subject: Re: help - install failure
Date: 24 Dec 2000 07:42:48 GMT
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:07:44 -0600,
Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Trying a clean redhat 6.2 install
into a newly fdisk'd
>and formatted drive. The
"running sbin/loader" step
>reports an abnormal exit and
the installation stops.
>Any ideas? Note: the disk is 500M and I have
>only 8MB of memory in this made from parts
>pentium. I'm installing from CDROM.
I doubt you are going to get a successful
install of RH 6.2 onto 8 MB. I think you can
get it on a 500 M drive though you won't have
much memory in reserve if you do - I am not
sure you can do any of this without selecting
a custom install and picking your packages
very selectively. I think I crammed 6.2 into
500M that way once but I had 32MB of memory
to work with.
The first thing i would try is a minimal
custom install. You might try doing
without X, because you can always put stuff
back in later on.
If that doesn't work I'd try making a
small Slack or Debian install. Your main
bottleneck sounds like the 8MB of RAM.
MP
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,at.linux,ger.pc.linux,linux.debian.qa,linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: which LINUX to choose
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:39:54 GMT
Hank Barta writes:
> The 'why not' is my supposition that 'dselect' will handle updates for me
> and I don't know if APT will.
It will do so, and do a much better job of it than dselect.
> And even if I never decide to switch to the 'unstable' version, won't I
> need to use 'dselect' when I want to upgrade to 2.3 and so on?
No. 'apt-get dist-upgrade' will upgrade all your packages, handling all
dependencies gracefully and automatically.
> I'm pretty sure based upon what I've seen so far that 'dselect' will do
> it's darned best to 'sort out' anything I've done that it does not agree
> with.
Once you have installed apt you have no further need of dselect.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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