Linux-Setup Digest #279, Volume #21              Mon, 21 May 01 22:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Low-Mem Distros? (Bill Maginnis)
  Re: Compiling Kernel. I use loadlin. Anything special needed? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: upgrading the kernel or OS (Steve Martin)
  Crond problem ("Kendall Johnson")
  Re: txqueuelen for ppp0, how to increase (Clifford Kite)
  brand spankin' newbie question (David)
  Re: How to setup DNS on Linux w/ Linksys Router (Dave Uhring)
  Re: How ro disable 'gpm'? (Dave Uhring)
  Debian (woody) http install (Shreyas)
  Re: brand spankin' newbie question (E J)
  Re: how to allow shutdown for a user ?? :) ("Patrick Draper/Austin/Sector 7 USA, 
Inc.")
  Re: quick modem question (E J)
  Re: brand spankin' newbie question (Stanislaw Flatto)
  Re: linux 7.1 install "sup wit dat"? (gman1)
  Re: Low-Mem Distros? (Angry Bob)
  Re: Crond problem (Angry Bob)
  Re: U.S Robotics Modem Problem (Clifford Kite)
  US robotics 56K Internal modem help !! ("Sarkie")
  Using Remote X-Server (Mark W. Stroberg)
  Re: Apache Setup ("sang")

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From: Bill Maginnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Low-Mem Distros?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:30:07 -0000

What recommendations do folks have for distributions that will run on older 
machines? Not talking about shared disk space w/DOS, WFWG, or Win9x, etc - 
just Linux all alone. The PC in question has an AMD5 processor w/ 8 Mb RAM, 
CD-ROM, 2.4 Gb HD, a 3COM NIC.
I'd like to get some options available about the distributions to also look 
at setting up donated systems for low-income folks. Thanks in advance for 
your opinion. I look forward to any and all answers.

-*-Bill

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compiling Kernel. I use loadlin. Anything special needed?
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 01:19:03 +0200

Dale L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> compile 2.4.4 since it had the i810 stuff already figured out. Any
> chance you have i810 on your motherboard and have gotten a resolution
> better than VGA16? (cough, cough)

Sure. I do. I run kernel 2.2.15 and xfree 3.3.6 (under libc5). I
run at 1024x768 or 1152x864. What's the problem?

XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 8 1999
        If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer
        than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
        problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.15 i686 [ELF]
Configured drivers:
  SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0):
[...]
      i810, i810-dc100, i810e, generic
(using VT number 3)

XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keycodes: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: types: "default"
(**) XKB: compat: "default"
(**) XKB: symbols: "en_US(pc101)+es"
(**) XKB: geometry: "pc"
(**) XKB: layout: "es"
(**) XKB: variant: "nodeadkeys"
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, buttons: 3
(**) Mouse: 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) Mouse: type: MouseManPlusPS/2, device: /dev/input/mice, buttons: 5
(**) Mouse: zaxismapping: (-)4 (+)5
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Matrox G200"
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "Sony 200ps"
(--) SVGA: Mode "768x576" needs vert refresh rate of 120.31 Hz.
Deleted.
(--) SVGA: Mode "1600x1200" needs hsync freq of 105.77 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,unix/:7100,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Mozilla/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
(--) SVGA: PCI: Intel Unknown chipset (0x7125) rev 3, Memory @
0xf8000000, 0xffa80000
(--) SVGA: GART: allocated 4096K system ram
(--) SVGA: chipset:  i810e
(--) SVGA: videoram: 4096k
(**) SVGA: Option "dac_8_bit"
(**) SVGA: Using 16 bpp, Depth 16, Color weight: 565
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 163.000 MHz
(--) SVGA: i810e: Removing interlaced mode "1024x768"
(--) SVGA: i810e: Removing interlaced mode "1152x864"
(--) SVGA: i810e: Removing interlaced mode "1280x1024"
(**) SVGA: Mode "1152x864": mode clock = 100.000
(**) SVGA: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 115.500
(**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  69.650
(**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock =  45.800
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1152x864
(--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
(--) SVGA: Intel i810e
(--) SVGA: i810e: MMIO registers at 0xFFA80000
(--) SVGA: i810e: Linear framebuffer at 0xF8000000
(--) SVGA: i810e: Using hardware cursor


Peter

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: upgrading the kernel or OS
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:37:32 -0400

Andrew Fuentes wrote:
> 
> I'm just wondering before I start to upgrade my linux
> kernel from 2.2.15 to 2.4.4. Should I just upgrade the
> kernel or the the whole Red Hat 6.2 to 7.1? I don't
> have much hard drive space and I would just like (for
> right now) to take advantage of the new features that
> come with the new kernel.

Depends. If you've done a lot of customization, software
installs that *weren't* RPMs, configurations, et cetera,
then I'd say just upgrade the kernel. Otherwise, go ahead
and get a new distro.

I have a 6.2 box that I've just upgraded piecemeal
and it's running well. I'm scared to touch it now.

Note that, if you download and install the new kernel,
you'll have to upgrade a bunch of stuff. Unpack the
kernel source and check out the Changes file in
the Documentation directory. Do not -- repeat,
do not -- skip this step.

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From: "Kendall Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Crond problem
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:47:06 -0500

Hello,

I'm new to linux and having a great time learning the ins and outs of the
OS. I have been trying to set up MRTG to run under crond, but it hasn't been
updating like it should. Whenever I try to restart crond I get the error "
can't lock /var/spool/crond.pid otherpid may be 554"

Can anyone help with this?

Thanks
Kendall



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From: Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: txqueuelen for ppp0, how to increase
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:11:26 -0500

Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:

>> I *think* I may have an idea that would improve my demand-dialing, and
>> it inability to find the first address it was asked for.
>> 
>> How can I make the default txqueuelen in the ifconfig report for ppp0
>> different from its default of 3?
>> 
>> Cheers, Gene

> I'm not sure, if this works with ppp, it works with ippp.
> You could change the script that setups your ppp like:

> ifconfig ppp0 txqueuelen <number> ....

Or, better,

ifconfig $1 txqueuelen <number>

but I don't see that it will help with such a problem.  I'd suggest trying
something like

options attempts:5 rotate

in /etc/resolv.conf.

-- 
Clifford Kite  <Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with X=kite, Y=inetport, Z=com>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David)
Subject: brand spankin' newbie question
Date: 21 May 2001 16:55:38 -0700

Ok, here's the situation.  I would like to use Linux on my computer,
but my computer has nothing on it but MS-DOS.  No windows, no
anything.  The computer was given to me by my parents when they
upgraded and they deleted everything off the hard drive.  I didn't
really care, as I wanted to try Linux anyway.  It would stand to
reason that it would be easier to install Linux with nothing else on
the hard drive, but I can't seem to find anything on installing Linux
from scratch with MS-DOS, just tips for windows users.  If anyone
could e-mail me with any tips or a link to some information you think
I may have missed, please drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Thanks in advance.


David

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to setup DNS on Linux w/ Linksys Router
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:59:59 -0500

Mark Johnson wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Uhring) wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>>Mark Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Can I setup my linux box to act as a secondary DNS along with the
>>> builtin DNS functionality of my LinkSys router?
>>> 
>>> Can someone point me in a direction to understand how to do something
>>> like that?
>>> 
>>
>>I don't think that your LinkSys router is a DNS server.  It may act as a
>>DHCP server, though.
>>
>>
> Right, sorry, it is a DHCP server. So how, if possible, do I set things up
> such that the LinkSys can give out ip addresses and the linux box act as
> DNS to resolve the names.  I have 2 W2K machines, an iMac, and the linux
> box.  I edit the /etc/hosts files by hand for all the machines and the
> iMac is an island - the oddball...
> 
> 
> 
> 

That router can be configured to use static addressing on the client hosts. 
 Is the Apple capable of being configured for a static IP address?  That 
really is your best option.  Configuring DNS can be a PITA even without 
trying to link to the DHCP table.


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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How ro disable 'gpm'?
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:03:52 -0500

Ron Bell wrote:

> Does anyone know how to disable 'gpm' from starting in RedHat 7.1?  Please
> respond to my email as I don't always have access to this newsgroup,
> thanks in advance!
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
RedHat-7.1 has a KDE tool called ksysv which is ideal for maintaining your 
rcX.d directories.  Just drag and drop the names from Start to Stop or to 
the Garbage bin.

Under the System sub-menu, it's called SysV-Init Editor.


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From: Shreyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Debian (woody) http install
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:30:12 -0000

i'm trying to do a http install via floppies and get the error "Couldn't Download 
Adduer" after 
proceeding with my default mirror selection (http://http.us.debian.org/debian). When i 
try a 
nonexistant address (http://blah.blah.org) i get an error message complaining that the 
file 
"Release" couldn't be located. So i know that http://http.us.debian.org/debian is 
valid. Please 
help me out!!


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: brand spankin' newbie question
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:32:05 GMT

http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/mini/Linux+DOS+Win95+OS2.html
Just ignore OS2 and Win95.

David wrote:

> Ok, here's the situation.  I would like to use Linux on my computer,
> but my computer has nothing on it but MS-DOS.  No windows, no
> anything.  The computer was given to me by my parents when they
> upgraded and they deleted everything off the hard drive.  I didn't
> really care, as I wanted to try Linux anyway.  It would stand to
> reason that it would be easier to install Linux with nothing else on
> the hard drive, but I can't seem to find anything on installing Linux
> from scratch with MS-DOS, just tips for windows users.  If anyone
> could e-mail me with any tips or a link to some information you think
> I may have missed, please drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanks in advance.
>
> David


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From: "Patrick Draper/Austin/Sector 7 USA, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how to allow shutdown for a user ?? :)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:47:19 GMT

> On Thu, 10 May 2001 03:11:03 -0400, Yves Leung-Tack allegedly wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >
> >  I used Linux Mandrake 7.2 at HOME.
> >And I login as a normal user. But to shutdown I have to be root
> >I wonder how can I allow user to shutdown ???
> >It is "really" painful to type sum,  pwd, and finally shutdown !
> >
> >I found nothing in man page ...except about a file shutdown.allow
> >But as user I cannot even use the command shutdown :((

Why not just change the entry for ctrl-alt-delete in /etc/inittab to do
a shutdown -h instead of a shutdown -r? Any user with access to the
console can shutdown with ctrl-alt-delete. No painful typing, which is
what you're trying to reduce.

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: quick modem question
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:48:36 GMT

Yes, it is a winmodem, it has no controller chip.  Check www.linmodems.org
(the last time I checked, it was
not supported)
Email/write to the winmodem chip manufacturer to release the chip
specification to the open source
community so that modem can be used.
If you can't wait, buy a real modem with a controller chip built in.

Wai Bun Cheung wrote:

> Is a "Conexant SoftK56 PCI Modem" considered a winModem??
> Mandrake Linux 7.2 registers a modem but it doesn't respond (it is always
> busy)
> Thanks in advance
>
> Wai Bun Cheung
> Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: brand spankin' newbie question
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:15:33 +1000

Just start the installation, one of first steps will be partitioning of
hard drive.
As you have nothing on it delete the DOS partition/s and create linux
partitions.
You are all set.
Install.

Have fun.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladula.

(Just remember: Linux is a teacher not helper, do YOURSELF a favor,
learn)

David wrote:

> Ok, here's the situation.  I would like to use Linux on my computer,
> but my computer has nothing on it but MS-DOS.  No windows, no
> anything.  The computer was given to me by my parents when they
> upgraded and they deleted everything off the hard drive.  I didn't
> really care, as I wanted to try Linux anyway.  It would stand to
> reason that it would be easier to install Linux with nothing else on
> the hard drive, but I can't seem to find anything on installing Linux
> from scratch with MS-DOS, just tips for windows users.  If anyone
> could e-mail me with any tips or a link to some information you think
> I may have missed, please drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanks in advance.
>
> David


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From: gman1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux 7.1 install "sup wit dat"?
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:59:52 GMT

THAT IS WHAT I HAVE.... An Acer 40X CD-ROM....  It worked just fine under all
other versions of Red Hat though....  Do you have the same problem I am
currently having?

KW wrote:

> You may also have a bad ISO or CDROM that doesn't like your ISO.  I've
> got an ACER 40X cd-rom here that would be in the trash if I didn't have a
> windows PC to put it in ;)
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "gman1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Here is what happens when I try to install or update red hat 7.1:
> >
> > when i get to the "moving install image to hard drive" in the
> > installation
> > I get the error:  "an error occured, probably because you don't have
> > enough disk space"
> >
> > I have:
> > /boot - 64 megs
> > {swap}- 256 megs
> > / - 2.9 gigs(but it doesn't seem to matter how big I make "root")
> >
> > When I do finally get the install to start copying the files - I get an
> > anaconda crash?
> >
> > ps. I have no problems with any other version of red hat including
> > 7.0....
> >
> > Thanks to all in advance!!!!
> >


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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Low-Mem Distros?
Date: 22 May 2001 01:06:45 GMT

What would you like to read?  [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a Bill Maginnis scroll!  it says:

> I'd like to get some options available about the distributions to also look 
> at setting up donated systems for low-income folks. Thanks in advance for 
> your opinion. I look forward to any and all answers.

Slackware is pretty minimal.

If you're setting up computers for low-income folks though, you probably
want somethign more graphical (easier to understand).   Brand new I can
put together something like 800mhz, 256M, cd, floppy, 10/100 NIC, 3d
graphics, soundcard for like 400 bucks....  that's without monitor.
Make sure you're not giving systems that will only make people annoyed
and frustrated with computers.  I'm sure you can get something decent
from companies getting rid of their stuff.

something like a pentiumII 200mhz with ~64M of RAM will run acceptably
well with a graphical desktop and a bunch of bells and whistles and is
probably more the caliber of machine you want to give people who know
nothing about computers.

-- 
AngryBob                        Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
           "F--- off Gates, I'm in a meeting."
                -- http://www.ghetto-prostitute.com/lalala/23.html

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From: Angry Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Crond problem
Date: 22 May 2001 01:07:53 GMT

What would you like to read?  [[EMAIL PROTECTED] or ?*]
this is a Kendall Johnson scroll!  it says:

> I'm new to linux and having a great time learning the ins and outs of the
> OS. I have been trying to set up MRTG to run under crond, but it hasn't been
> updating like it should. Whenever I try to restart crond I get the error "
> can't lock /var/spool/crond.pid otherpid may be 554"

> Can anyone help with this?

do a: 
ps aux | grep 554

-- 
AngryBob                        Systems Consultant - http://www.trellisinc.com
        You've never eaten a packing peanut?
                        --Nick Black

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From: Clifford Kite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: U.S Robotics Modem Problem
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:17:36 -0500

thunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <9ebb4r$e29$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Unknown"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> I have a US Robotics /3Com Modem 5610 (compatable with Linux). And
>> I am having trouble configuring it. When I do lspci -v it finds it
>> at IRQ-5, IO ports at ec00. I don't know how to set the com ports
>> for it.

> Others have been down this road.  You might find your solution here.

> http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/pedersen.txt

Yes, it's there.  Use setserial in a boot-up file to set an unused ttySx
to the IRQ and port.  I'm not sure about the other things mentioned,
except that the right UART should also be specified.  That will usually
be a 16550A regardless of what anything on the modem or box, or in the
manual says.

-- 
Clifford Kite  <Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with X=kite, Y=inetport, Z=com>
/* No matter what other nations may say about the United States,
   immigration is still the sincerest form of flattery. */


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From: "Sarkie" <((REMOVE the EXTRA , )) [email protected]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: US robotics 56K Internal modem help !!
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:47:53 -0400

I have a winmodem I guess by US robotics.  In win2k its under Com3 IRQ11 how
do I get this to work under Mandrake 8.0, When I try to use it says its
ready but when I try to dial its busy or not responding. Please help

Thanks



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark W. Stroberg)
Subject: Using Remote X-Server
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 01:56:38 GMT

To anyone who can answer this question:
   I wish to connect a remote X-Server to a Red Hat Linux 7.1 machine
running X-Client programs to be displayed on the remote X-Server. Is
this difficult? What software or Daemons need to run on the Linux box
to make this work? And could it be set up already but not functioning
because the Red Hat 7.1 firewall is set to "Medium" security? For some
reason I cannot get it to work.
   By the way, the remote X-server is running on a Windows box.

   TIA

    Mark W. Stroberg


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From: "sang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache Setup
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:07:05 +0900

i cannot access linux apache server from my NT workstation.
Ping each other is ok.



"David Efflandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon, 21 May 2001 13:26:56 +0900, sang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I had setup Apache in LINUX7.1 seawolf.
> >
> > I can access Apache server in LINUX server computer only.
> > From this computer i can access WIN NT Apache Server from
> >  other computer.
> >
> > Ping is ok too.
> >
> > What is wrong?
>
> The most common mistake I see is using an incomplete URL (missing trailing
> slash when not referencing a specific filename).  Apache tries to correct
> the mistake by attempting to redirect to the corrected URL.  However, by
> default it uses what it thinks is its server name (your hostname if
> ServerName is not set).  So the first question is, can the client find the
> server by its hostname?
>
> You can get around this.  See UseCanonicalName in apache docs.
>
> --
> David Efflandt  (Reply-To is valid)  http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/


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