Linux-Setup Digest #279, Volume #19 Sun, 30 Jul 00 16:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: ATI XPERT 128 (asage)
Re: Linux and Netgear RT311--????? (Julian Cook/Sherab Gyatso)
Re: Lastest version of Red Hat? (blowfish)
Installing RH 6.0 with a boot-20000407.img disk ("ken k")
Re: Linux, W98, Lilo & 1024th Cylinder Problems, Please Reccommend (Tom Pfeifer)
RH6.2 install on Sony Vaio PCGZ505JS SuperSlim (John Waldron)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Help!!!! Home-Network-mini-HOWTO (Chuck)
Re: Linux printer server? ("Selzhanik")
Which distribution for my PC? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
how to boot multiple drives with lilo (xyz)
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From: asage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI XPERT 128
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 14:14:31 -0400
I use the same card and did have trouble configuring it initially. One
site that is quite good is:
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html
The last time it was updated was July 14. I'm not sure if there is more up
to date info somewhere else, but this is a place to start. You don't say
which version of XFree86 you're trying to use (?).
Allison Sage
> hi guys,
> I am having difficulties installing an ATI XPERT 128, the xserver always
>
> crashes during probing. Does somebody have some experiences with this
> hardware??
> thanx in advance
> axel
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From: Julian Cook/Sherab Gyatso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux and Netgear RT311--?????
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 18:20:12 GMT
Thanks Brian!
The RT311 is set up for DHCP. Windoze is set to grab first available IP.
I downloaded the new DHCPCD module and set that up. So I have figured
out that I have to use DHCP. Whenever the machine boots up, it tries to
configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP server and then I get a timeout
waiting for DHCP server response.
While the Linux box is waiting on the DHCP response, the corresponding
hub light DOES light up on the hub box, then when it times out, it goes
out.
When I issue ifconfig I get....
lo Link encap: Local Loopback
inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask: 255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
RX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
It apparently recognizes the loopback, I can ping localhost with no
problems.
Then I issue
ifconfig eth0 up
The hub light comes on for the corresponding port..
When I issue ifconfig then I get
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:24:24:AC:1B
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
interrupt:11 Base address:0x300
lo Link encap: Local Loopback
inet addr: 127.0.0.1 Mask: 255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1
RX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
I don't have enough experience networking linux to know if this is OK
or not. My initial impression is that it may indeed be set up correctly.
That is, it's asking for an IP from the Netgear and it isn't getting it,
so it can't configure eth0.
I truly appreciate all the assistance that you and the other folks are
giving me on this....
Thanks again!
Julian
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brian moore wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2000 22:20:50 GMT,
> Julian Cook/Sherab Gyatso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello folks!
> > I have a network I am trying to set up and I have wasted SO many hours
> > and no results.
> > One machine is Windows 98
> > The other is a Linux box running Slackware 7
> > Both machines are hooked into a Linksys 5 port workgroup hub
> > The Router is a Netgear RT311
> >
> > This router has been great after some initial difficulty setting it up.
> > The Win machine
> > works great through it. My problem is setting up Linux and getting Linux
> > to see the
> > router..
> >
> > The IP of the Router is 192.168.0.1
> >
> > The Linux box uses a 3Com 509B NIC. The machine recognizes the card ok.
> > (Other info, it's a
> > Pentium 75)
> >
> > When I type 'netconfig'
> > I put in these values .. hostname --> milarepa
> > Domain name --> this is a complete mystery to me. It's a private
> > network. What domain name? (I typed 'localnetwork' just for something to
> > put in)
> > The when given the options of Static IP, DHCP and loopback I selected
> > DHCP
> > Then I get the notification that "Your networking software has now been
> > configured"
> >
> > Now on bootup after this (during startup), I get...
> > "Attempting to configure eth0 by contacting a DHCP server"
> > The corresponding hub light goes on during this period, the machine
> > hangs for about
> > 30seconds and then the light goes out and I get
> > "Activating IPv4 packet forwarding"
> > After logging in, I type in "ifconfig" and the only thing that shows up
> > are the "lo" settings.
>
> So do you have a DHCP server on your network?
>
> If you do, why is it not answering?
>
> --
> Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
> Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
> Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
> Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: Lastest version of Red Hat?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:24:48 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> What is the lastest version of Red Hat now? And it supports AT100
> hard disk? Where can I find information about Red Hat?
>
> Is there any Linux which supports AT100 hard disk now?
>
> Thanks,
> David
I'm converting all my machines to SCSI HDDs only, so, I no longer keep
track of the IDE stuff.
But you might want to check out SuSE Linux first, as I understand that
SuSE actually funded the development of the ATA100 driver initially, (as
well as some sound drivers and other good stuff.)And whatever SuSE puts
out, they usually works without any fuzz or messing around right out of
the box 99% of the time. Unlike Red Hat - which is basically a pile of
under developed broken pieces that sux boulders, hiding in disguise as
"bleeding edge."
SuSE is also the first to ship XFree86 4.x, and the journalling file
system. SMP kernel, AMD 3DNow support, sound support and many security
goodies all without mess by default.
Bleeding Edge can work very well indeed when properly developed. SuSE
and *BSD are excellent examples.
Only Red Hat is unable to even to debug ancient bugs. (some bugs dated
back to RH 4.x still exists in RH 6.x.)
RH is trying very hard to beat Windoz for the Championship title of
Champion of the Bugs.
(check out bugtraq.)
- blowfish.
--
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his
hands,
lives a very boring and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his
time.
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From: "ken k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing RH 6.0 with a boot-20000407.img disk
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 14:55:21 -0400
I created a boot disk from the boot-20000407.img file to get around
the Win98 extended partition problem. Problem is it does not seem
to reconise my Redhat 6.0 or 5.1 CD. Can you only install RH 6.2
with this boot disk or am I doing something wrong?
Oh, the 5.1 CD is a real Readhat CD. The 6.0 is a $3 special from
Linuxlabs or some such place.
Thanks,
Ken
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From: Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux, W98, Lilo & 1024th Cylinder Problems, Please Reccommend
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:22:24 GMT
One note: If you install Debian 2.2 (potato) instead of 2.1 (slink), you
will get the newer version of Lilo that can handle disks over 1024
cylinders by using the "lba32" option in /etc/lilo.conf. That option is
not available in the Lilo included with Debian 2.1. The "lba32" option
is available starting with Lilo v21.4
As the other post said, a 6.4 GB disk will *usually* have less than 1024
cylinders anyway. This depends on the BIOS setup for the drive. If the
BIOS is set to what's usually called "LBA Mode" for that drive, it will
have less than 1024 cylinders as long as the drive is 8.4 GB or less. If
it's set to "Normal", it will have more. In that case the 1024 cylinder
mark will be at about 504 MB.
By the way, you don't want to change the BIOS setup for the drive after
you have partitioned it. That can/will cause serious problems with the
existing partitions. It should be changed before the drive is
partitioned.
This topic, including working around the 1024 cylinder problem with the
old Lilo, is covered in the large disk HOWTO which you can find here:
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO.html
Tom
"Andrew E. Schulman" wrote:
>
> > I have W98 installed on a 6.4Gb FAT32 primary partition.
> > I'd like to dual boot it with Debian 2.1 installed on a 3Gb partition made
> > by using partition magic to shrink the 6.4Gb partiton to 3.4Gb and creating
> > a New 3Gb one. (I apologise for my drive/partition naming but its the only
> > way I know at the moment)
> >
> > I'd like to use linux's Lilo as the boot manager.
> > If my motherboard will look past the 1024th cylinder for the boot image or
> > OS loader, does Lilo have to be below the 1024th cylinder?
>
> Lilo installs its boot loader in sector 0. The partitions that it boots
> have to be contained below cylinder 1024, but this is usually 8.4 Gb, so
> you should have no problem there.
>
> > If I create three primary partitions, one 400Mb, one 3Gb and another 3Gb and
> > put Lilo on the 400Mb one, W98 on one 3 and Debian on the other will the
> > win98 partition move to D:? Can I make it C: and hide the Lilo partition?
>
> Lilo doesn't need 400Mb! It only needs sector 0! You may still want 2
> linux partitions, however. Read the Debian installation documentation
> about partitioning schemes, and see also the partition mini-howto,
> http://www.ssc.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Partition.html.
>
> Windows assigns drive letters according to the partitions it recognizes,
> which doesn't include ext2 (linux) partitions. So your first Windows
> partition will still be C:.
>
> When you're partitioning, I recommend setting up exactly one primary and
> one extended partition. Then put as many logical partitions as you want in
> the extended partition. The reason is that Windows in principle can only
> understand one primary and one extended partition per drive, and may act
> bizarrely if you use another scheme. Make the primary partition VFAT, so
> it will be C:. Some people also recommend that any other Windows
> partitions come first in the extended partition. So for example, your
> partition scheme might be:
>
> partition type mount
> 1 primary/VFAT C:
> 2 extended
> 5 logical/VFAT D:
> 6 logical/ext2 /
> 7 logical/ext2 /usr
>
> > My other 'problem' regards software. I haven't got a clue about whats on
> > offer in linux but I know what I want to do. What would you reccommend for:
> >
> > An Office Suite (WP, Spreadsheet, DB, Presentations, I'm told Staroffice so
> > that I can read my old MS stuff)
> > Bitmap, JPEG and GIF viewing, conversion, editing (Like Paint Shop Pro)
> xv, gimp
>
> > Web Browsing (Like IE/Netscape)
> lynx, netscape
>
> > Email, Newsgroups (Like Sharkmail!)
> I use netscape
>
> > PDF Viewing (Like Acrobat)
> acrobat
>
> > TWAIN capture (UMAX Astra 600P, Parallel Port)
> >
> > 2D/3D CAD (Preferably AutoCAD *.DXF compatible)
> > 3D rendering proggie
> > CD Burning Software (Preferably as Idiot-Resistant as Adaptec Easy CD)
> > WAV, MP3, Realaudio Player/Converter (Similar to Realjukebox if possible)
> > Any Good Games (Transport Tycoon/ Railroad Tycoon/ Civilistaion/
> > Colonization/ Simcity style)
> freeciv is terrific!
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From: John Waldron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,alt.os.linux
Subject: RH6.2 install on Sony Vaio PCGZ505JS SuperSlim
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:36:25 GMT
I am trying to install RedHat 6.2 dual boot with Win98SE. My new laptop
has a PCMCIA adapter for the a CD-ROM (PCGA-CD51). Does anyone out
there have a Linux driver for this CD-ROM? Can anyone tell me how to
get around this problem. I have a 12 GB drive. 8 GB is for Win and 4
is for Linux. I could copy the the RH disks onto the drive, but after
that, I will need to use the CD-ROM. A driver or a workaround will be a
must. Thanks.
John Waldron
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:36:59 -0700
John Hasler wrote:
>
> blowfish writes:
> > Only those clueless, day-time wet-dreaming, naive geeks who got
> > braindamaged by worshipping GNU/GPL and believing in Slashdot would
> > believe everything is rosy and sweet and free.
>
> For a while there you seemed like a reasonable person, but now you are
> acting like an ordinary BSD troll.
>
I realize sometimes, I seem to be a BSD troll myself too.
I am really a very reasonable person. But I am also an equal
opportunity basher/offender. ;-)
No. I am not your typical BSD or whatever troll. I have complained about
one of my fav. FreeBSD as well. ;-)
I am also a HUGH fan of SuSE-Linux distro. And I use SuSE Linux along
side with FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Sun Sparc Solaris and Mac.
I just choose the right tool for the right job. No single OS or tool can
do everything well. When you try to do everything with a single tool.
You 'll end up with a nightmare similar to Win..... ! :-|
I am in T-shirts and jeans and cut-offs most of the time, but all suit
up in G. Armani when I talk to the bean counters and money people. So I
look at things from both sides.
Why I bash Slashdot? Because Slashdot is advocating a lot of unethical
stuff by twisting the real definition of Freedom of Speech; and its
point men Jon Katz and Del Taco are super hypocrites in my book. And the
GNU-GPL is what exactly what keeps a lot of big corp away from using
Linux. And a lot of Slashdot's groupies are naive, twisted college kids
who believe in free beer.
Don't get me wrong. I want Linux and *BSD to success. But in the money
circle. Once they got burned (like RHat and VA got bursted on Wall
Street, like Led Zepplin on its maiden voyage.) They'll never forget
about it. They'll remain as eye sours for a long time to come.
And RHat is still burying its head in its ass. Buying up this and that
with the money that they don't really have, or can afford to, and try to
move into the European and Asia markets, and, somehow, they think all
these noises will attract the VC back... That's day time wet dreaming.
Once you get outside of the US, the rules of the game are totally
different.
In the real market. You're being judged mainly by your track record.
Nobody will deal with a loser with a track record like RHat, especially
in Asia.
New and innovative ideas are fine within academia circles, but totally
worthless... until it can be *proven* to be profitable.
And if RHat think they can be profitable by selling service, they should
rethink hard. As any service industry is totally disposable. Service
industry can only survive as long as there're plentiful. Service
industries are basically scavengers, fighting for table scarps and left
over on the table. When the economy go south, service industries are
the first to take the chop.
And Linux is not that difficult to master. Especially in Asia, where
almost every other college student is in CS, EE , physics or maths. Look
at all the CS, EE, Math, Physics, Business, Biology, Chemistry and
Medical school departments of major univ campuii here in the US, and see
how many of them are Asian students.
So. Why would they want to give RHat a fat support contract when they
can have plenty of supports, who understand the local culture, language
and business need for less!!!???
And China, Japan, South Korea are all developing their own version of
Linux as well. So. RHat's ventures into the Asia market is highly risky.
If not downright hopeless.
Reality is very harsh.
I wonder if Larry Augustine is still driving his new red Lambroghini
sports car?
> Is your real name John Dyson?
Nope. But Alex is my real first name. :-)
Alex / blowfish.
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help!!!! Home-Network-mini-HOWTO
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:31:20 GMT
Hello all.
I am trying to use the Home-Network-mini-HOWTO to set up a Linux box to
serve up my DSL connection to my Windows 98 box
I'm running RedHat 6.1.
I've struggled through to the point where my Linux box can talk to the
outside world (I'm on it now). The windows box can get it's IP from the
Linux Box's DHCP server. I can ping the Windows box from the Linux Box,
and Ping both of the Linux Box's network cards with the Windows box.
However, I can't get outside to the Internet with the Windows box.
I tried checking out some different firewalling scripts (for
masquerading etc) except that all of the other ones that I have looked
at try to run the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward script. However, I
don't have a /proc/sys directory. I am not sure if the HOWTO is doing
something different than my other sources, or if I don't have some
package installed that I should.
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks in advance
Chuck
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Reply-To: "Selzhanik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Selzhanik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Linux printer server?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:45:08 GMT
Why not installing DOS on it, install the Novell Dos Netware clients (VLM)
and
load rprinter (or nprinter for old versions), as usual with Netware ?
You can put 3 LPT ports in your machine to share them...
Don't think Linux is more stable than a Pentium with only a 'pure' DOS
6.22.. :-)
"dougcpa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht
news:3opf5.7068$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a question. Is it somewhat easily possible to setup a simple
> computer as a Linux print server on a Novell Netware 3.x network? We have
> an office Novell network and we have two computers that need to share a
> color printer via the network. Right now we have a screwed up setup where
a
> user's pc is connected to the printer and has to be on and connected to
the
> network, then the other user can print to the printer. The problem is
that
> the other computer has to be on (its Win95, so it crashes frequently) and
> the pc is used constantly by a word processor, so when a print job comes
> through the computer almost becomes unusable until the print job is
> finished. What I was thinking was setting up a Linux print server since
we
> have around 10 Pentium class desktops that have been replaced and are just
> in storage, unused. My setup would be to configure a Linux box with a
print
> queu, the printer connected to the box via parallel, and an ethernet card
in
> the box connected to our network. But I'm not sure how the network will
> recognize the box, and the print que (sp?).
>
> I've checked the FAQ's at linux.org, but none seem to really cover it, the
> FAQ's I saw were more on how to print from a Linux box and not so much on
> setting up a stand-alone print server.
>
> --
> Doug
> http://darksaber.hispeed.com
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Which distribution for my PC?
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 19:54:19 GMT
I'm a long time UNIX user thinking of putting Linux on my PC (as a dual
boot between Win 98SE and Linux).
My biggest concern is Linux Hardware support of my PC.
Here is what I have:
Abit BE6 motherboard (440BX chipset) with 800MHz Pentium III
256M SDRAM
IBM 20G ATA/66 Hard disk on a Highpoint HPT366 EIDE Controller
Monster Sound MX300 Soundcard (Aureal Vortex 2 chipset)
Elsa Gladiac (nVidia Geforce 2 GTS chipset)
Toshiba DVD-ROM
HP CD-RW 8100
Microsoft PS/2 mouse
Attached to the USB are:
Efficient Networks External DSL
HP Photosmart Scanner
I've checked RedHat 6.2 but it doesn't seem to support a lot of the
hardware in my PC. My biggest concern is support of the Efficient
Networks DSL because I need it to access my ISP (Pacific Bell).
Is there a Linux distribution that will support all of my hardware?
Thanks for any help.
Boris
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Subject: how to boot multiple drives with lilo
From: xyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 13:00:23 -0700
I posted the following to comp.os.linux.help a few days back to
no response, does anyone here have any pointers? Thank!
---
Hi all, I have two hard drives in my computer, each with a
complete install of redhat (I am moving my stuff over to a new
bigger disk, but want to keep my old linux drive intact until
I've comfortably moved into the new space). I can't figure out
from the lilo.conf man pages how to configure lilo to boot a
linux install that is on a diferent drive than the master boot
record is on (ie boot the linux partition on my second master
drive). Can someone send me an example lilo.conf or explain to
me how to do this? Thanks!
-Josh
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