Linux-Setup Digest #282, Volume #20 Sun, 24 Dec 00 21:13:04 EST
Contents:
LILO and dual booting??? (Ken Schutte)
Re: recompiled kernel doesn't boot (Anna Luigi)
Re: recompiled kernel doesn't boot (Anna Luigi)
Re: Linux simulation program? (Josef 'Jupp' Schugt)
geForce2 ("Ron Nicholls")
Re: geForce2 (Andy Walton)
Re: Hello, I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with it.
However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in the near
future. In addition, their progress ha (Dennis Brown)
Re: LILO and dual booting??? (Bit Twister)
Re: A couple of Mandrake 7.2 questions... (Guy Parry)
Re: /dev/hda this!!! (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: SUSE7 on Win98 (Cliff Sarginson)
Re: Trouble Starting KDE (Subha Pindiproli)
Re: Modem problems in Mandrake 7.2 ("John McCubbin")
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help!! RedHat 7 Install (Keith)
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From: Ken Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO and dual booting???
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 16:21:33 -0600
Hi, I recently installed Mandrake 7.1 and want to dual boot w/ win98. I
had them both working, but I couldn't choose my OS at startup, the only
way I could run linux is with the boot disk. So I tried to use LILO to
give me the option on startup, but I guess I didn't know what I was doing
because with my new settings I can only boot into linux and when I do,
linux doesn't recognize my win partition! (ie /mnt/windows/ is empty)
Also, we I try to run windows w/ its boot disk I get some kind of VFAT
fatal error
On booting is says:
Dec 24 13:21:45 localhost mount: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
superblock on /dev/hda1,
When I made changes, I manually changed lilo.conf & used linuxconf,
however, I restored my original lilo.conf and I get the same problems. (i
also tried to remove it w/ lilo -U)
Does anyone know how to get the LILO working properly?
Thanks, Ken
(FYI: this is my current lilo.conf)
boot = /dev/hda1
timeout = 50
prompt
message = /boot/message
default = linux
vga = normal
read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
keytable=/boot/us.klt
lba32
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = linux
append = " hdd=ide-scsi"
root = /dev/hda3
image = /boot/vmlinuz
label = failsafe
append = " hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
root = /dev/hda3
other = /dev/hda1
label = windows
table=/dev/hda
other = /dev/hda1
label = floppy
unsafe
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From: Anna Luigi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recompiled kernel doesn't boot
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 16:16:45 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Srihari Vijayaraghavan wrote:
> Anna Luigi wrote:
>
> > Colin Watson wrote:
> >
> > > Anna Luigi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >When recompiling the kernel, the _only_ thing I changed in the
> > > >compile options (make menuconfig) was selection of APM.
> > > >Compilation of the new kernel proceeded smoothly and the new
> > > >image was slightly larger than the old one, which seemed
> > > >reassuring. So I copied the new image to the location where
> > > >lilo defaults to, and rebooted . . . After rebooting to the
> > > >new image, I see the messages:
> > > >
> > > >Uncompresing Linux ...
> > > >ran out of input data
> > >
> > > Did you forget to run '/sbin/lilo -v' as root after copying the new
> > > kernel image over the old one? You'll need to do that or it will fail to
> > > boot.
> >
> > I see, I did that then and now it boots from the recompiled image. I know
> > it's booting from the recompiled image since it's the default image in
> > lilo.
> > Yet now it's back to the old problem- no APM in the kernel (this is what
> > the command apm reports). Well, that's not really an old problem but a
> > new problem since it was supposed to be a routine matter to compile in
> > the APM support. I clicked the APM kernel option in make menuconfig,
> > and recompiled. I finally got the boot loader to register the new image
> > which
> > I know has something new in it since it's a bit larger than the old one.
> > Yet
> > still no APM! The bios certainly has all the support for APM, since I
> > looked
> > and the computer was manufactured in the middle of 2000.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any more suggestions you might have.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > "And after the fire there came a still small voice ..."
> >
> Hello Anna,
>
> Execute the following to see if the kernel knows about APM (Advanced Power
> Management)
>
> # cat /proc/apm
>
> This should show something like "1.13 1.2 0x07 0x01 0xff 0x80 -1% -1 ?"
>
> Hope this helps.
> --
> Thank you,
> Hari.
Thanks Hari, I already looked here and found no apm. It appears that others
have
had problems with the kernel recognizing the BIOS APM for the type of laptop
I've got (Compaq Presario 19xx) as well. Definitely the kernel knows about apm
since on startup I see the message apm: BIOS not found.
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From: Anna Luigi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recompiled kernel doesn't boot
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 16:26:27 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Steve Bradley wrote:
> Anna Luigi wrote:
>
> > Yet
> > still no APM! The bios certainly has all the support for APM, since I
> > looked
>
> Just a stupid question, since it hasn't been asked yet...OK - two questions:
> 1. Your BIOS may support APM, or ACPI, or both, but did you ENABLE them in
> the BIOS?
Thanks, it doesn't appear to make a difference if APM (it's definitely APM,
according
to Compaq's webpage) is enabled or disabled in the BIOS setup. In either case
I get
the same level of APM functionality and the same level of recognition of BIOS
by
apm in the kernel (it doesn't recognize it).
>
>
> 2. How do you know that APM isn't working - I mean, what is the machine
> NOT doing that it should be?
>
The three things I'm hoping will occur are:
1) sleep mode (manual or software driven)
this is the low power mode
2) hibernation mode (manual or software driven)
computer shuts off after copying contents of memory to disk
3) apm interfaces with power management software, battery indicator appears,
settings
for time before automatic hibernation mode, etc.
The only thing that works now is sleep mode (for the Compaq Presario 1900, this
is
manfested by a blinking power LED and screen turning off, as opposed to
hibernation
mode where the LED goes off), and that only can be activated manually. In fact
sleep
mode works regardless of whether kernel support for apm is present. After
searching
through the web I noticed that other people have had similar experiences with
the BIOS
not being recognized even with the kernel support for similar model laptops
(Presario
19xx's I believe). Could be a problem with Compaq's implementation of APM,
though
I hope not. There are many reports of other Presario laptops working fine with
linux
APM support, though.
> --
> Steve Bradley
>
> Registered Linux User#187404
> (register at www.linuxcounter.org)
> ICQ#19864616
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Josef 'Jupp' Schugt)
Crossposted-To:
linux.news.groups,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux simulation program?
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 22:54:27 GMT
> I am a newbie to linux and don't wish to install linux on my Win98 PC at home.
> However, I would like to learn and practice linux commands, etc. on my PC.
> So, does anyone know of any Linux simulation programs? (Just a simple
> program I can run and learn linux from a book.)
The best Linux simulation program is: LINUX ;-)
To become ernest: You can run Linux without *INSTALLING* it on your machine.
muLinux boots from floppy disks and copys itself into RAM. Here comes the
latest announcement:
application: muLinux 11r2
author: Michele Andreoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
license: GPL
category: Console/Mini Distributions
urgency: low
homepage: http://freshmeat.net/redir/homepage/911270536/
download: http://freshmeat.net/redir/download/911270536/
description:
muLinux is a minimalistic, but mostly complete, script-based Linux
distribution that fits on a single 1722k floppy. X11, GCC, VNC, and TCL
addons are supported on additional floppies. It includes many basic
system functions, such as PPP and Ethernet support, mail processing,
NFS, Samba, FTP, IRC Finger, ipfw, etc.
|> http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/12/15/976927095.html
There are other linux-on-a-floppy versions available but they mainly focus on
(often WINDOWS btw.) system administrators.
If you are only interested in the command line tools and are willing to pay for
the software you could get the great MKS toolkit (great tool, did run it on
NT4). A free alternative is also available: CygWin.
Maybe the tools you are looking for are also available from Microsoft.
No, I am not kidding! Visit msdn.microsoft.com and search for Interix and
Services for Unix.
Have fun,
Josef 'Jupp' Schugt
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From: "Ron Nicholls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: geForce2
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 10:11:38 +1100
Does anyone know of patches or updates of XFree86 4.0
that support geforce 2 cards
--
-
-
Regards
RonN
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From: Andy Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: geForce2
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 23:29:12 +0000
Just installed this weekend: I installed XFree86 4.0.2 which (after a
bit of messing with the XFConfig file) worked fine using the included nv
driver on my GeForce 2 MX card. To provide better support, I also got
some drivers from the Hercules site which give OpenGL support. Not
fully tested it out yet (don't know how to), but it all seems to be
working. Running Caldera 2.4, BTW.
Andy
Ron Nicholls wrote:
> Does anyone know of patches or updates of XFree86 4.0
> that support geforce 2 cards
>
> --
> -
> -
> Regards
> RonN
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dennis Brown)
Subject: Re: Hello, I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy with
it. However, I have heard about how Corel may dump their distribution in the near
future. In addition, their progress ha
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 18:38:22 -0500
Ivan Milos wrote:
> recompiling the kernel would have helped this. Anyway, I am thinking
> about moving to Debian. However, I was wondering if it is much trouble
> getting KDE2 running on Debian. If so, could somebody suggest another
> distribution based on Debian.
I've read some favourable reviews of Caldera's distribution which
also includes DR-DOS. Don't know if it's based on Debian though.
Might be worth checking out their website: http://www.calderasystems.com
--
Dennis Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: LILO and dual booting???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 23:44:11 GMT
Try changing
boot = /dev/hda1
to
boot = /dev/hda
then
lilo
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000 16:21:33 -0600, Ken Schutte
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi, I recently installed Mandrake 7.1 and want to dual boot w/ win98. I
>had them both working, but I couldn't choose my OS at startup, the only
>way I could run linux is with the boot disk. So I tried to use LILO to
>give me the option on startup, but I guess I didn't know what I was doing
>because with my new settings I can only boot into linux and when I do,
>linux doesn't recognize my win partition! (ie /mnt/windows/ is empty)
>Also, we I try to run windows w/ its boot disk I get some kind of VFAT
>fatal error
>
>On booting is says:
>Dec 24 13:21:45 localhost mount: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad
>superblock on /dev/hda1,
>
>When I made changes, I manually changed lilo.conf & used linuxconf,
>however, I restored my original lilo.conf and I get the same problems. (i
>also tried to remove it w/ lilo -U)
>
>Does anyone know how to get the LILO working properly?
>Thanks, Ken
>
>
>
>(FYI: this is my current lilo.conf)
>boot = /dev/hda1
>timeout = 50
>prompt
> message = /boot/message
> default = linux
> vga = normal
> read-only
>map=/boot/map
>install=/boot/boot.b
>keytable=/boot/us.klt
>lba32
>image = /boot/vmlinuz
> label = linux
> append = " hdd=ide-scsi"
> root = /dev/hda3
>image = /boot/vmlinuz
> label = failsafe
> append = " hdd=ide-scsi failsafe"
> root = /dev/hda3
>other = /dev/hda1
> label = windows
> table=/dev/hda
>other = /dev/hda1
> label = floppy
> unsafe
>
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From: Guy Parry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A couple of Mandrake 7.2 questions...
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 11:15:19 +1100
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000 10:05:35 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Presumably the entry in your .xinitrc or .xsession (or .xclients or
>whatever your system uses) has changed from startkde to startgnome ;-).
On its own? :)
>
>What's unhelpful about that? They mean you to select on the menu at the
>login screen that lets you choose which window manager you plan to use
>for the coming session.
>
I would like to do it from the console, not a graphical
login...which I dislike.
>> Secondly, I'd like to have the startup screen NOT clear before
>> presenting the login prompt. The LPB says to add the '- noclear'
>
>It'll be "-noclear", surely! But it's not in my getty manpage.
>
With " instead of '...I'll see what happens.
>> switch to my inittab file, but all I get is the 'I'm gonna hang for 5
>> minutes before trying again' jive which means there's a typo in that
>> file. What's the correct syntax? I've tried about half a dozen
>> variations.
>
>Like? What does the manpage say?
>
>Peter
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev/hda this!!!
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:35:29 +0100
jay posited:
> I have 3 drives. Each of them has about 5 partitions on there.
>
> So in my /etc/fstab I have
>
> /dev/hda1 <more junk here>
> /dev/hda2
> /dev/hdb5
> /dev/hdc3
> /dev/hdc5
> etc
> etc
>
>
> Without the contents of my /etc/fstab I cannot remember what drive has
> which partitions and which number is which? Is there some tool I can
> run (Windows or Linux). That will tell me what drives I have, what
> partitions each of the drives has, and what is the format type of each
> logical drive? Thanks.
Mmm.
It's called a printer I think.
Hard copy is your best friend here :)
Cliff
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From: Cliff Sarginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SUSE7 on Win98
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 12:46:20 +0100
Tiefenbacher posited:
> To me as an absolute beginner in linux it seems that, getting started
> physically with linux, one of the most important things is the way you
> organize your hard disk, especially if you want to use various OS.
> So, therefore i�d love to know what "real experts" think about the
> following: (the partitioning and formatting was done by partition magic
> under win)
>
> What do you think of my way of partitioning:
>
> 10GB hard disk partitioned in
> one primary: 4GB Fat32 for win,
> one extended partition of 6GB with:
> one logical 50MB root Linux,
> one logical 150MB swap Linux and
> one logical 3.5GB linux, and
> two logical each 1GB Fat for win data?
> Do i have to expect serious problems for my harddisk, system??
> Any replies greatfully aknowledged
>
>
You need to think about /var.
/var is the "moveable feast" , this is where mail, news and log files are
spooled. Unless you make arrangements for to to be on a seperate file system
or symbolically linked to somewhere on your large linux partition you may
start to have space problems. But I run a local leafnode news server and
handle 300-500 emails a day on this system, so I use /var a lot.
Cliff
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From: Subha Pindiproli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble Starting KDE
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 00:30:05 -0000
Jaideep,
I think you should type 'startx' which would start your KDE
desktop. I am assuming you have configured your login process to start off
in ASCII mode. I had that same problem. 'startkde' is not the right
command. Try it with 'startx'.
- Subha
Jaideep Tibrewala wrote:
>
> Hello
> I tried to install XFree4.01 on my computer. After installing it, I can
> start X successfully, but I cannot start KDE anymore. When I run
> startkde, it gives me the following error.
>
> kbgndwm: cannot connect to X server
> kcontrol: cannot connect to X server
> /usr/bin/startkde: /etc/sysconfig/sound: No such file or directory
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xdpyinfo: unable to open display "".
> kpanel: cannot connect to X server krootwm: cannot connect to X server
>
> kwm: cannot connect to X server
> kfm: cannot connect to X server
>
>
> What can I do to correct this? Or what am I doing wrong in the
> installation? I am using KDE 1.x - but will upgrade to 2.0 after I get
> XF4.01 working.
>
> Please cc your response to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thank you
> Jaideep
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From: "John McCubbin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Modem problems in Mandrake 7.2
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 16:54:24 -0600
Michelle,
Is this an ISA modem internal? Did you leave it plug and play or did you
disable this and manually configure jumpers on the modem. If you can tell
me this I may be able to help. Modems seem to be the first "real" problem
most installs encouter. At least it was for me. Now that I've solved the
problem about 10 times, it's gotten a little easier ;-)
John McCubbin
CCD/Astrophotograpny Website
http://www.usit.com/mccubbin/astronomy.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card problem
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 00:45:33 GMT
My fresh install of Mandrake 7.2 did not setup my sound properly (i.e. I
can't hear any sounds).
My sound card is a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card from Voyetra which uses the
Cirrus Logic CS4630 chipset.
The installation identified my sound card as a Cirrus Logic CS4624.
1) Where can I find a driver for this device? (couldn't find it on ZDNET
site).
2) Will I need to rebuild the kernel?
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith)
Subject: Re: Help!! RedHat 7 Install
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 02:01:35 GMT
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000 13:32:15 -0600, John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just downloaded the image files off of Redhat and burned them to CD and
> created my boot disk. Tried to install and am getting a message that states
> "Error- I could not find a Red Hat Linux CDROM in any of your CDROM drives."
> I have tried this on two different systems and am getting the same message.
> According to the RedHat instructions all I have to do is place the file
> 7.0-respin-disc1.iso on the first cd and create the boot disk. Is there
> other files that should be included on the cd? Anyone had this problem?
>
No, You have to burn the iso image to CD. When you mount the
CD you should be able to naviagate and view it like an other data CD.
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