Linux-Setup Digest #368, Volume #20               Sun, 7 Jan 01 16:13:11 EST

Contents:
  Re: Ramdisk error! (Garrett Krueger)
  Re: Ramdisk error! (Garrett Krueger)
  2.4.0 kernel lvm problems (Julie Holdstock)
  Re: is a normal modem with  linux 6.1 RH system with "weeee"  sound when  (E J)
  GRUB Boot Order ("MagicDust")
  WinLinux and DSL ("C.E. Logan")
  Re: Crystal 32bit PCI Audio Onboard ("lobotomy")
  Re: XFree 4.0.2 RPMs for Redhat 7.0? (Cathy Gramze)
  Compaq Presario ("Rodrigo Vanegas")
  Re: Install RH 6.2 over FTP (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?=)
  Re: GRUB Boot Order (E J)
  Re: 2.4.0 kernel lvm problems (Steve Holdoway)
  Advice Needed - Partitioning New HD For Linux ("Mike Gratis")
  Re: Advice Needed - Partitioning New HD For Linux (Bill Unruh)
  Re: netscape startup question (David)
  Apache w/ PHP and SSL: w/ PHP OK - w/out PHP NOK (Frederic Faure)
  Re: is a normal modem with linux 6.1 RH system with "weeee" sound when u dial up 
with a phone. (Bill Unruh)
  What about video adapter for RH 7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  setting up Mandrake 7.2 (Martin Singleton)

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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:14:43 -0600
From: Garrett Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ramdisk error!

Oh, i've been through all of the FAQ's and how to's that I've been able to find --
otherwise I would not be here.  Don't go making assumptions without basis.  See, I
teach this stuff at a technical college, but that doesn't mean I remember everything
24 hours a day for all of time.

Sometimes, like you, I ask for help -- that's what makes the world work.  If we all
had to be totally self-reliant, we could trash the grocery stores and we'd be
responsible for growing each year's worth of food in the back yard.

If you don't want to help, that's fine.  If you don't know the answer; that's fine too
-- just say you don't know.  If you do know the answer, thanks; I appreciate it.

Regards

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

> Garrett Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > attempts to mount the RAM disk after which it returns saying, "Error loading
> > RAMdisk"
> > followed by, "/dev/hda1 doesn't appear to contain in installation tree" -- which
> > is incorrect.
>
> I doubt it. If you installed it on a dos partitiion without due care,
> all the filenames will be wrong.
>
> > can't remember the syntax or where it is entered -- it's something ..._Ramdisk=0
> > or ...load_Ramdisk=0 or something.  Any chance either of you know it or have
>
> You know, because YOU have read the BootPrompt HOWTO, haven't you? But
> why would disabling a ramdisk help? Look at RedHat's instructions! You
> seem curiously loath to read.
>
> > RAM I can get under $39 per 128M so I'm satisfied there.
>
> Then go for it.
>
> Peter




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Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:14:48 -0600
From: Garrett Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ramdisk error!

Well, that's the funny part... I think it has to do with the disk size somehow
(10 gig drive).  hda1 (or drive c:) contains redhat/rpms and the other redhat
files it's expecting to find.  These are stored at root level.  It's a 2.0 gig
FAT16 partition.

What makes this odd is that I had this drive setup as a 1.6 gig drive in the
BIOS last week (did a drive swap; forgot to change BIOS parameters initially).
hda1 was still a 2 gig partition, and I ran the redhat install which installed
fine, but I realized my error when I did not have "any" space left on the drive
like I should have had.  I corrected the drive size in the BIOS and now the
message I get is "Error loading RAMdisk"

Even more odd is that Ctrl-Alt-F3 shows that the ramdisk was loaded at 0 on
bootup but then errors out at this later step.  I'm a bit confused on this.  I
suppose I could repartition the drive and start over although I'm trying to
avoid this if possible.

regards

Eric en Jolanda wrote:

> > Hehehe, you don't know what I'm talking about?  I figured you knew linux
> fairly
> > well :)... there are really
> > only a couple of spots where it fails to mount during install.  Here's
> what I
> > mean...
>
> A couple of spots, but a million of reason
>
> > I have a 10 gig hard drive that I'm installing RH7 on.  Right after
> selecting
> > the installation
> > source (i.e. CDROM or Hard Drive -- I'm installing off ot the hard drive),
> I
> > point it to /dev/hda1
> > which is where the source files are, give it the proper path, it mounts
> the
> > drive and then it
> > attempts to mount the RAM disk after which it returns saying, "Error
> loading
> > RAMdisk"
> > followed by, "/dev/hda1 doesn't appear to contain in installation tree" --
> which
> > is incorrect.
>
> Appearantly not so incorrect, as it fails on this
> Sounds to me like it cannot find a root FS.
>
> > Since the FAT16 partition (hda1) is 2 gigs and the redhat install files on
> FAT16
> > are less than
> > 650 megs, there's plenty of space on the drive for the mount, but I don't
> > install RH often
> > enough to remember the workaround.
> >
> > The option to disable the RAMdisk usage feature during install is what I'm
> > looking for, but I
> > can't remember the syntax or where it is entered -- it's something
> ..._Ramdisk=0
> > or ...load_Ramdisk=0 or something.  Any chance either of you know it or
>
> I'd say fix the problem. I don't know if you even can disable this, but I
> wouldn't try. In this RAM disk, the root FS is to be mounted. Disable it and
> you will have a very nice non-working system.
>
> What *is* on hda1? Is it what the installer expects to find? Is the
> installation tree present? Or did you put the iso image on hda1 and point to
> that?
> I'd check that out, instead of trying to disable the RAMdisk.
>
> Eric



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From: Julie Holdstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.4.0 kernel lvm problems
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:25:27 +0100

Is there anyone out there who can help me? I'm trying to install the
new 2.4.0 kernel on a RedHat 6.2 system. Apart from having to rewrite
fome of the header files in the firewire support code, I have found
one major problem.

I've been using lvm for quite a while, and am using it with the
2.4.0-test12 kernel quite happily. But when I boot on the 2.4.0
kernel, I get the error message 'vgchange -- invalid i/o protocol
version' in response to the vgchange -a y command.

Is this fixable, or am I going to trash and recreate all my lv's? Or
do I need to do something else, like upgrading to the new glibc that
comes with the 7.0 release?

TIA


Steve

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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.dial-up,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: is a normal modem with  linux 6.1 RH system with "weeee"  sound when 
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 18:25:37 GMT

Jennifer H Mulherins wrote:

> greeting,
>
> I have set up a linux 6.1 with Zoom 56K modem, I can't testing at home since
> I can't get someone to call in. I used a cell phone but it does not give
> "weeee" sound.

Issue "ATM0" (i.e. minicom) to the modem to shut the f___ up.

>
>
> I can dial out and hear somebody speaking from non-modem reception phone no
> with minicom with root.
>

That is the problem with the phone line.  Call the phone company.

>
> Please let me know if I am missing something.
>
> q2. How do I share it out  with normal user other than root.
>
> Jenny.

$ id
uid=502(uid) gid=502(group_share) groups=502(group_share) # all your normal
user should have the same group id
$ su -
password: <secret>

# chgrp group_share share_program
# chmod g+xr  share_program # everyone with the group_share id can execute and
read the program.


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Reply-To: "MagicDust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "MagicDust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GRUB Boot Order
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:28:21 -0500

Is there a way to put Windows at the top of that list GRUB gives you on
startup? GRUB automatically loads the top OS on the list after the first 5
second unless there is activity.  And currently "Linux" is the first choice.
I am using Linux Mandrake 7.2 and WinME (WinME was installed first) if this
makes a difference.

Thanks



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From: "C.E. Logan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WinLinux and DSL
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:53:14 -0600

What are the steps to get WinLinux to use my DSL?




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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Crystal 32bit PCI Audio Onboard
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 18:58:10 GMT

If it is really made by crystal, and really PCI, its probably either
based on the CS4280 or the CS461x.  These are both supported in the
kernel, and shouldn't need any extra configuration other than loading the
module.  If it is a CS462x, it may or may not work using the CS461x
driver.  

In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Immortal Love" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm having a computer with ASUS ME-99VM Socket 370 All-in-One
> MotherBoard with 32 bit Crystal PCI Audio Onboard. I would like to ask
> if there's any driver for this sound chip and where's it can be
> downloaded? I'm using RH
> 6.2. Thanks.


-- 
PC Chips actually goes by many names. PCChips = Ability = Alton = Amptron = 
Aristo = Asia Gate = Asiatech = Assa = Atrend = Elpina = Eurone = Fugu = 
Fugutech = Hi Sing = Houston = Hsing Tech = H Tech = Matsonic = Minstaple = 
PCWare = Pine = Protac = QDI = Warpspeed

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From: Cathy Gramze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFree 4.0.2 RPMs for Redhat 7.0?
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:03:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrey Shipsha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Does anyone know where to get XFree 4.0.2 RPMs for Redhat? Are they
> available anywhere? There is nothing on Redhat updates page...

There are binaries and install scripts for 4.0.2 on the XFree86 mirrors. Follow the
instructions in the readme file and it's a snap to install.  Remember to do it from a 
terminal, NOT a terminal window in X...  The binaries and scripts are according to 
which library set you are using, so disribution doesn't matter.

cathyy

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From: "Rodrigo Vanegas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compaq Presario
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:04:18 -0500

Has anyone been able to install RH7 on a Compaq Presario desktop?  How about
a Compaq Presario 5000?

--
Rodrigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rasmus_B=F8g_Hansen?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,redhat.general,redhat.config
Subject: Re: Install RH 6.2 over FTP
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:26:57 +0100

On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, H.A.J. van Niekerk wrote:

> 1.  This NE2000 compatible card is new (I got it to replace a BNC-card; now that's
> old..)

Eh, could by any chance be a PCI NE2000 card? If so, you should use the
ne2k-pci driver module.

> 3.  How do I find out the MAC?

Eh, the driver will tell you, when it is loaded. But you probably do not
need the MAC address; it is just a unique identifier for your card.

Rasmus B�g Hansen

---
He has his own opinions
- just like the others.
                                  -- Burnin' Red Ivanhoe


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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GRUB Boot Order
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:29:10 GMT

MagicDust wrote:

> Is there a way to put Windows at the top of that list GRUB gives you on
> startup? GRUB automatically loads the top OS on the list after the first 5
> second unless there is activity.  And currently "Linux" is the first choice.
> I am using Linux Mandrake 7.2 and WinME (WinME was installed first) if this
> makes a difference.
>
> Thanks

RTFM on  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub.en.html#faq

9. How to boot Windows (or DOS) from a non-first disk?

Use the command map, to exchange BIOS drives virtually, like this:

grub> map (hd0) (hd1)
grub> map (hd1) (hd0)


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From: Steve Holdoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4.0 kernel lvm problems
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:42:02 +0100

How embarassing - following up my own posts.

All I had to do was to download and install lvm toolkit v0.9!

Steve

On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 19:25:27 +0100, Julie Holdstock
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Is there anyone out there who can help me? I'm trying to install the
>new 2.4.0 kernel on a RedHat 6.2 system. Apart from having to rewrite
>fome of the header files in the firewire support code, I have found
>one major problem.
>
>I've been using lvm for quite a while, and am using it with the
>2.4.0-test12 kernel quite happily. But when I boot on the 2.4.0
>kernel, I get the error message 'vgchange -- invalid i/o protocol
>version' in response to the vgchange -a y command.
>
>Is this fixable, or am I going to trash and recreate all my lv's? Or
>do I need to do something else, like upgrading to the new glibc that
>comes with the 7.0 release?
>
>TIA
>
>
>Steve


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From: "Mike Gratis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Advice Needed - Partitioning New HD For Linux
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:54:11 -0500

    I'm getting ready to take the plunge and install Linux on my computer
(Caldera 2.4); but would like some advice regarding hard drive configuration
first.  I've presently got Windows ME installed on a 13.5 GB IBM drive.
I've just picked up a 2nd 46 GB IBM drive.  I'd given some thought to
putting W-ME on the 46 GB and Linux on the 13.5 GB; but I'm thinking that I
might not be using W-ME all that much after trying Linux (...though I've
been using computers since 1978, I've only been using Windows at home for  a
little less than 4 years -- And I've never been a big fan of it).  That
being so, now I'm thinking of just leaving the 13.5 GB as is and putting
Linux on the 46 GB.

    So, the question of the day is:  Besides the two partitions that'll be
created when I install Linux (Root & Swap), should I partition the drive any
more, or just go with the full 46 GB?  With Windows, it made sense to create
more partitions due to defragmentation & performance issues (...I have 3 on
my 13.5 GB); but from what I've been reading it looks like Linux avoids a
lot of those problems.  Though I try to read as much as I can before asking
questions, I'm sure you'll be hearing more from me as this project
progresses.   :)    Any input is appreciated....





--
Mike Gratis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice Needed - Partitioning New HD For Linux
Date: 7 Jan 2001 20:25:16 GMT

In <EP366.10542$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Mike Gratis" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]    I'm getting ready to take the plunge and install Linux on my computer
](Caldera 2.4); but would like some advice regarding hard drive configuration
]first.  I've presently got Windows ME installed on a 13.5 GB IBM drive.
]I've just picked up a 2nd 46 GB IBM drive.  I'd given some thought to
]putting W-ME on the 46 GB and Linux on the 13.5 GB; but I'm thinking that I
]might not be using W-ME all that much after trying Linux (...though I've
]been using computers since 1978, I've only been using Windows at home for  a
]little less than 4 years -- And I've never been a big fan of it).  That
]being so, now I'm thinking of just leaving the 13.5 GB as is and putting
]Linux on the 46 GB.

]    So, the question of the day is:  Besides the two partitions that'll be
]created when I install Linux (Root & Swap), should I partition the drive any
]more, or just go with the full 46 GB?  With Windows, it made sense to create
]more partitions due to defragmentation & performance issues (...I have 3 on
]my 13.5 GB); but from what I've been reading it looks like Linux avoids a
]lot of those problems.  Though I try to read as much as I can before asking
]questions, I'm sure you'll be hearing more from me as this project
]progresses.   :)    Any input is appreciated....


I would make a small ( 1GB) / partition, a larger (say 4GB) /usr
partition, and then say a 4GB /local partition. On the /local, I would
put my home (eg /local/home) and put in a link from /home to /local/home
(ie afte you have brought up linux having installed it, do
rm /home
ln -s /local/home/ /home)
That way you will have the stuff you yourself have created on a single
file system, and when you upgrade, you can wipe / and /usr to reinstall
without losing your own work.

For now, leave the other 38Gb or so unassigned. You can always partition
it and give it to whatever OS you want it to have after you have played
around a while. Both Linus and Win can use a partition on a second disk
anyway. I would leave this new one as the second disk, so that if you do
create a new Win partition on it (making sure it is a logical not
primary) you will not mess up all your drive letters under Win (except
of course your CDROM drive. ) It keeps driving me up the wall the way in
which Windows (and OS2) reassignes drive numbers with nothing you can do
about it. It is a completely insane feature.






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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netscape startup question
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:25:06 GMT

freedman wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2001 08:39:05 GMT, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >freedman wrote:
> >>
> >> When my netscape starts up it displays file:/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html in
> >> the location box.  How does one change what is used for the initial location?
> >
> >
> >In "Edit/preferences/Navigator" change Home Page
> >
> >--
> >Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
> >Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> >ID # 123538
> >Completed more W/U's than 98.990% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
> 
> Thanks, but the home page doesn't seem to be related to the initial display
> of file:/usr/share/doc/HTML/index.html.  My home is "http//www.netscape.com"
> --
> Dick Freedman

Are you talking about the "splash" screen?

If you are you can stop it with this.

Add this to ".Xdefaults" in user /home

Netscape*noAboutSplash: true

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 98.988% of seti users. +/- 0.01%

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederic Faure)
Subject: Apache w/ PHP and SSL: w/ PHP OK - w/out PHP NOK
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:29:00 GMT

Hi,

        I've been assigned the task of building an Apache server with
support for Sybase, PHP4, OpenSSL 0.9.6/mod_ssl ?, and apache 1.3.14.

I followed Israel Denis Jr/Eugene Otto's "The Soothingly Seamless
Setup of Apache, SSL, MySQL, and PHP" at DevShed, but compilation of
apache fails if I add PHP.  The same procedure w/out PHP works OK
(either port 80 or port 443.) As a non-developper, I'm totally in the
dark. 

[/home/samba/temp/Apache/apache_1.3.14]# SSL_BASE=../openssl-0.9.6
/configure --enable-module=ssl
--activate-module=src/modules/php4/libphp4.a --enable-module=php4
--prefix=/usr/local/apache

Configuring for Apache, Version 1.3.14
(snip)
-L/home/samba/temp/Apache/openssl-0.9.6  -o helpers/dummy
helpers/dummy.c   -rdynamic -Lmodules/php4 -L../modules/php4
-L../../modules/php4 -lmodphp4  -lpam  -ldl -lresolv -lm -ldl -lcrypt
-lnsl  -lresolv   -lm -lcrypt  -lssl -lcrypto
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmodphp4
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [dummy] Error 1

Any idea?

Thx
FF.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.dial-up,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: is a normal modem with linux 6.1 RH system with "weeee" sound when u dial 
up with a phone.
Date: 7 Jan 2001 20:38:15 GMT

In <93a9rs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Jennifer H Mulherins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:

>I have set up a linux 6.1 with Zoom 56K modem, I can't testing at home since
>I can't get someone to call in. I used a cell phone but it does not give
>"weeee" sound.

You do not want it too. besides annoying callers, the way to set up a
dialin system is by using mgetty. If you use mgetty you do NOT want the
modem answering the phone until mgetty tells it to. But it is not clear
what you want your modem to do for you. The better way of testing it is
to try to dial out with it, not phone in.

Note make sure it is NOT a winmodem. You will have nothing but trouble
if it is.


PS SEe
http://www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html
for detailed instructions for setting up ppp.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What about video adapter for RH 7.0
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:29:05 GMT

I posted a message about video problems in RH 7.0 installation and I
can't solved it. So, I think that's a problem with a video card 3DImage
975 w/  4 MB.... Si, I ask you: what a best video adapter for RH 7.0?
And what the bets NIC for this version?

Tks...


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: Martin Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting up Mandrake 7.2
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:39:19 -0600

I just installed Mandrake 7.2 on hdb1 of an intel-based PC.
It has a SVGA, and I'm running System Commander to boot 
several different OS's on this computer.  Currently the
installation includes Win98 and RedHat 6.2.  These two OS's
are installed and working fine, with both being bootable
from System Commander.  

Now that I've installed Mandrake, however, if I actually 
select to boot up Mandrake, I run into two immediate 
problems:

        1)  After logging out and shutting down from Mandrake
        linux, the system will no longer boot from the hard
        disk.  The message is " no active partition on hard
        disk, disk not bootable."  Then I put some other media
        into CDROM or floppy and have to restore the correct
        boot activation sequence.  Shutting down from RedHat
        doesn't produce this same problem.  What's the fix?
        I tried fiddling with lilo.conf, by setting e.g. boot=/dev/hdb1,
        then running lilo again, but to no avail.  I also tried lilo -u
        (uninstalls lilo) and that didn't work either.  

        2)  I have an SVGA, with 800x600 resolution set in the X-server
        for Mandrake.  This gives ok resolution, but lot's of the screen
        is mapped beyond the actual screen dimensions!  How can I fix 
        this?  In RedHat I've got it set at 640x480, which is ok since
        nothing's off the screen, but the resolution's not fine enough.
        What should the correct settings be and where should I change
        them?

Thanks in advance for any helpful information concerning these issues.

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