Linux-Setup Digest #368, Volume #21 Mon, 4 Jun 01 07:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: LILO?? (Joal Heagney)
Re: linuxconf command doesn't work! (Joal Heagney)
Re: Newbie with a question (Joal Heagney)
Re: Newbie with a question (Joal Heagney)
Re: Linux newbie and USB modem: bad combo (Ole Lundsgaard)
Re: Install of SuSE 7.1 hangs in reboot (oz1dcv)
Re: kernel version number ("Duane Healing")
Re: [Newbie] Ximian Gnome/Nautilus Install Problem ("Duane Healing")
Re: RH 7.1 and Adaptec AHA-1542 ("Bluesky")
Re: LILO?? ("Duane Healing")
IBM ThinkPad 380D ("Gregory D. Horne")
Re: Can't fix resolver (Dave Uhring)
Linux Server overload problem during peak hours (Ken Fung)
Re: kernel version number ("Peet Grobler")
Linux Video conferencing (Subba Rao)
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From: Joal Heagney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO??
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:25:20 +1000
KCmaniac wrote:
>
> I was wondering if anybody could tell me what in the sam hill is going
> on in this LILO config file ...
>
> these two lines are confusing the hell out of me.
>
> *
> *
> *
> default=Linux
> *
> *
> *
> image=vmlinuz
>
> In the /boot directory the only "images" that are there is one called
> vmlinuz-2.2.19-idepci and another called vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17-idepci.
> There are two system.map files that looks like they represent these two
> images. There is also just a file called map.
>
> There is not a file called vmlinuz or Linux anywhere in this directory.
>
> When I use "uname -r" I get "2.2.19pre17-idepci".
>
> Can anyone explain how this version is derived through the lines in LILO
> that I showed above. I am using LILO to boot and it is installed in the
> MBR.
>
> I am using Debian. I ran apt-get update and apt-get install, not
> knowing really what to expect. It apparently wanted to install a
> kernal-image or something. It asked me if I wanted to make a boot disk,
> I guess in case of a problem. I did. I used the boot disk just to see
> what would happen. When the system booted up I used "uname -r" and it
> gave me "Linux"????
>
> I am really confused about what damn kernal I am using, how is it that
> it is being used and what in the hell is a kernal version called just
> plain Linux or just plain vmlinuz???
>
> Thanks for any insight ...
>
> RLH
Normally you have symlinks in your boot directory called vmlinuz and
System.map that link up to the version of each that you want to use the
most. Since you don't have these, you're lilo install chucked a hissyfit
because it couldn't find the file /boot/vmlinuz. You can either put in
the symlinks or reconfigure lilo to accept one of your kernels instead
of vmlinuz.
Joal Heagney/AncientHart
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From: Joal Heagney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linuxconf command doesn't work!
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:27:23 +1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello. I typed linuxconf, but nothing happens. Is there any reason
> for that?
>
> I am using:
>
> RedHat 7.1 (on hdc2)
> Gnome and KDE instolled (Using Gnome)
>
> I also have Win2K on hda1, having Lilo on the first sector of
> hdc2.
> Does this dual boot have anything to do with failing to do linuxconf
> command?
> I also tried as root, but was the same result.
>
> Any help will be appreciated , thanks.
>
> tsug
If you tried to use linuxconf from the menus and nothing came up, that
might be because something went awol and you couldn't see the messages.
What messages do you get if you try to start linuxconf from a terminal?
Joal Heagney/AncientHart
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From: Joal Heagney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie with a question
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:34:01 +1000
> > 3. I keep hearing horror stories of system crashes. How much risk of
> > crashing a system during an install is there and can it permanately damage
> > the system ?
>
> Permanent damage? What? a little sparks and smoke? Not for newbies but it
> happens to gurus. Wait few month till this will be an issue.
> Have booting diskette ready for EVERY OS that resides on your box and you are
> almost 100% safe.
Do a full backup on your data as well, and I mean a FULL backup. I've
lost a lot of information recently by going "Well that's all on the
windows partition, the install won't touch that." *pause, then the sound
of someone screaming*
Joal Heagney/AncientHart
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From: Joal Heagney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie with a question
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:31:14 +1000
Bit Twister wrote:
>
> I would suggest Mandrake 8.0.
I'm not to sure about Mandrake 8.0. I and others have been having some
difficulty with the 2.4.5 kernels and not recognising PS/2 busmice and
COM-attached mice. If you got it to work with such a mouse, PLEASE tell
me. :)
Joal Heagney/AncientHart
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From: Ole Lundsgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux newbie and USB modem: bad combo
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:02:34 +0100
Laura Goodwin wrote:
>
> Look, I'm a newbie. I sure nuff do need major handholding to get my USB
> modem up and at 'em. I installed Mandrake 8.0 and it's very nice. I
> prefer Gnome to KDE, is that bad? Anyway, I'm stuck.
>
> I know how to install packages, I successfully changed my wallpaper and
> set up my mouse to be left-handed. This is the full extent of my powers
> (in Linux) (so far). I'm not even sure what questions to ask, OK? My
> modem, she's a no go. No worky. Me sad.
>
> It's not a winmodem. It's a Boca Tidalwave (hardware corrected) external
> USB modem. Sys specs on request. I built this computer myself, so I'm
> not a total idiot, I just don't understand the instructions I've seen.
> I'm all, "Duh? But what does THAT mean?" You dig?
>
> Can somebody give it to me in window-speak? Thank you.
>
> I have been told to do this:
>
> mount -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb
>
> Great, I'd love to, but what does that mean? Do I come in as root and
> type it in at a command prompt in terminal? I'm booting to either KDE
> or Gnome, although I like Gnome better. What will happen if I do this?
> Is it enough, or will there be more? I know how to set up kppp, I just
> want my modem recognized. Assume it's supported, and please don't ask
> me to check if it's supported. It's supported, OK? I just don't know
> how to enable it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Laura Goodwin
Hej Laura!
You have to log in as root and type the command in a terminal.
Then You type
CD /dev
and then
ln -sf input/ttyAMC0 modem (this make the choice dev/modem in kppp the
right one)
You then in kppp check that the modem actualy is recognised). You'll
eventually have to alter the initstring).
Hope this helps.
--
Med venlig hilsen/regards
Ole Lundsgaard
Egensegaardsvej 10
DK-5450 Otterup
Tlf: +45 64824993 (+45 21754993)
Http://www.olconsult.dk
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From: oz1dcv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Install of SuSE 7.1 hangs in reboot
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 11:26:36 +0200
On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 06:09:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (N. Yeamans) wrote:
>Happy to help. I just hope you're not getting too frustrated by now. :)
I was actually pretty frustrated, but your help gave me the moral
boost necessary to keep on trying. Thank you!
I finally succeded. Looking through the different files didn't really
helped much, so I borrowed another 32MB ram from another old computer.
That did not help with the 'minimal install', but a 'default install'
succeded.
The problem is that SuSE install program YaST2 is clever enough in the
first phase to figure out that there is insufficient RAM to make a
graphic install. BUT in the second phase, after reboot it tries to
start X, and that is where everything stops!
After once more Reading of The Fine Manuals, I found out how to start
the old YaST program where you have a lot more control of what is
happening, and with only a few quirks I finally made an install from
scratch with only 32 MB RAM.
I intend to use the computer as a firewall/gateway to Internet (hope
to get ADSL some time), so all the fancy graphics is just a waste of
resources.
Unfortunately it seems that everything is so centered around graphics
these days that a company like SuSE forgot to make a selection for
'Basic system with NO graphics'
In their distribution several packages, (emacs among others) depend on
some part of the X-libraries. That's just plain ridiculous.
Again thank you very much for your suggestions, I have learned a bit
more about linux. Now back to all the things I have skipped for the
last few days.
--
Yours
Hans Erik Busk
Registered Linux user #104633
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel version number
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 09:45:00 GMT
That number is usually vendor specific and represents their revision of
that kernel version. That's why the standard issue kernels don't have it.
--
-Duane
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "ulty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at
the keyboard thusly:
> As far as kernel versions go, say we have:
>
> 2.2.12-20
>
> we have the major number, minor number, and patch level, what does the
> -20 represent?
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Newbie] Ximian Gnome/Nautilus Install Problem
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 09:48:00 GMT
Ximian's installation program installs the packages off their site over
the network. If you want to install strictly standalone without
networking get a copy of the CD. See their website for details.
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "Jon A. Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
flailed at the keyboard thusly:
> Folks,
>
> I'm trying to install a copy of the Ximian Gnome package on Red Hat 7.0.
> When I try to run the installer, I get the message: "Error: Unable to
> resolve the DEPS server. Please ensure that your network connection is
> working properly."
>
> This is on my second home computer, which is on a 2-PC network, but I
> have no idea if my network is set up correctly (I'm basically just
> playing around with Linux, trying to learn it; I don't really need this
> PC to connect to my other system.) Why does Ximian require that I my
> network stuff configured properly before it installs? What if you're
> simply running a standalone system?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me,
>
> -- Jon
>
>
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From: "Bluesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 7.1 and Adaptec AHA-1542
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 18:53:38 +0900
it will search the scsi driver and install it automatically.
after that when you can recompile kernel, you will
see the option in kernel. However, it might be that the recompiled
kernel will not work well. I have this experience when building
support to usb device, and the usb mouse loose recognition, while
before recompiled it is recognized and worked.
Try it and post your result here, maybe others will come for advice.
Do not trust my experience.
SN
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"Huub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Can somebody please tell me how to install RH 7.1 on a SCSI-disk when RH
> 7.1 setup doesn't ask for any SCSI-driver? I already created the
> driver-floppy form DISC1 but that didn't fo anything. RH6.2 asked for
> SCSI so that did give any problem.
>
> Thanks
>
> Huub
>
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From: "Duane Healing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO??
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:02:44 GMT
Look in / instead of /boot. Debian puts the files vmlinuz* there (which
are just links to /boot/vmlinuz-whatever).
The line "default=Linux" is referring to the image lilo will boot by
default unless you press a key to tell it differently. Compare that to the
"label=" line for each image definition in your /etc/lilo.conf to
determine exactly which kernel that is.
I would guess that the reason you're getting "2.2.19pre17-idepci" as the
response to "uname -r" is that it is the kernel defined in lilo.conf
under the label "Linux". A likely excerpt from your lilo.conf might look
something like this:
...
image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
...
Then if you look at /vmlinuz you'll see that it is a link to
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17-idepci, and there you are.
Hope that helps.
--
-Duane
-DNAware SoftLabs
In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "KCmaniac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed
at the keyboard thusly:
> I was wondering if anybody could tell me what in the sam hill is going
> on in this LILO config file ...
>
> these two lines are confusing the hell out of me.
>
> *
> *
> *
> default=Linux
> *
> *
> *
> image=vmlinuz
>
> In the /boot directory the only "images" that are there is one called
> vmlinuz-2.2.19-idepci and another called vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17-idepci.
> There are two system.map files that looks like they represent these two
> images. There is also just a file called map.
>
> There is not a file called vmlinuz or Linux anywhere in this directory.
>
> When I use "uname -r" I get "2.2.19pre17-idepci".
>
> Can anyone explain how this version is derived through the lines in LILO
> that I showed above. I am using LILO to boot and it is installed in the
> MBR.
>
> I am using Debian. I ran apt-get update and apt-get install, not
> knowing really what to expect. It apparently wanted to install a
> kernal-image or something. It asked me if I wanted to make a boot disk,
> I guess in case of a problem. I did. I used the boot disk just to see
> what would happen. When the system booted up I used "uname -r" and it
> gave me "Linux"????
>
> I am really confused about what damn kernal I am using, how is it that
> it is being used and what in the hell is a kernal version called just
> plain Linux or just plain vmlinuz???
>
> Thanks for any insight ...
>
> RLH
>
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From: "Gregory D. Horne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: IBM ThinkPad 380D
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:22:45 GMT
When I close the cover of the notebook the screen resolution changes
from 800x600 to what I assume looks like 1024x768. However, the total
screen utilisation is less than 100%. How can I force this resolution
and use the full screen area? I already tried modifying the XF86Config
file.
TIA.
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't fix resolver
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 05:27:37 -0500
Mike Diehl wrote:
> Yes on both questions.
>
> Before I started to try to fix this, I flushed all of the ipchains rules
> with
> ipchains -F. The default policy is accept. I think I can eliminate the
> firewall as the problem.
>
> I've turned off the local DNS and the /etc/resolve.conf has the ip address
> of ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> my ISP's DNS server. I think I can eliminate bind as the problem.
>
> The IP address for my ISP's DNS is correct; it's the same one that my
> windoze machine gets when it connects to the Internet.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Thanx,
> Mike Diehl.
>
Is that a typo here or do you really have a file called /etc/resolve.conf?
And, since you didn't mention it, does /etc/nsswitch.conf have the line:
hosts: files dns
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Fung)
Subject: Linux Server overload problem during peak hours
Date: 4 Jun 2001 03:38:47 -0700
I got a Linux server with kernel 2.0.36, 128MB RAM, 128MB Swap,
PII 450. It's running Apache, sendmail, ipopd, telnetd, ftpd,
MySQL, PHP4 and Perl, mainly Apache, MySQL and PHP only.
This server handling a very popular web site. During the
beginnnig of the peak hours everyday (5pm-9pm), the loading
will raise from around 1 to 5. At 9pm-1am is the busy time.
The loading always around 7.
Sometimes, the loading suddenly raise from 8 to 150 in only
2 minutes. The highest loading I saw was 250. The server
was hanged up and extremely slow. The login prompt even couldn't
show up. If I was logged in already, it said "Out of memory!"
after I typed any command 3-5 minutes ago.
The loading will back to normal after the peak hours at around
2am.
I was using "top" to monitor the server when this problem
happened every night. The memory and the swap spaces were
ate up by something. The number of "httpd" processes raise
from 15 processes to more than 50. "mysqld" also increased
from 3 processes to more than 15 processes.
The file-max is 4096, inode-max is 12288 and freepages are
300 400 500. Is that a problem?
Does anyone got the idea what is going on? This is a commercial
server so it's unreasonable to have no service during these
hours. Actually this problem occured almost every night for
2 months, but I have no idea what's the problem.
This is the data from "top", hope this helps.
"top":
6:39pm up 28 min, 1 user, load average: 2.71, 2.30, 1.58
69 processes: 61 sleeping, 7 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 21.2% user, 13.0% system, 2.2% nice, 66.8% idle
Mem: 119636K av, 105260K used, 14376K free, 91076K shrd, 28656K buff
Swap: 130748K av, 4K used, 130744K free 32252K cached
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
958 nobody 9 0 3288 3288 2164 R 0 5.5 2.7 0:10 httpd
362 nobody 4 0 2944 2944 2160 R 0 2.7 2.4 0:14 httpd
370 nobody 2 0 2956 2956 2164 S 0 2.7 2.4 0:08 httpd
385 nobody 4 0 0 0 0 Z 0 2.7 0.0 0:14 httpd <zombi
315 nobody 2 0 3068 3068 2176 R 0 2.5 2.5 0:11 httpd
316 nobody 4 0 2912 2912 2172 S 0 2.5 2.4 0:13 httpd
360 nobody 3 0 2968 2968 2176 R 0 2.5 2.4 0:16 httpd
465 nobody 2 0 3024 3024 2180 S 0 2.3 2.5 0:14 httpd
369 nobody 6 0 3364 3364 2180 R 0 2.3 2.8 0:23 httpd
936 nobody 3 0 2972 2972 2156 S 0 2.3 2.4 0:09 httpd
2274 root 16 5 2124 2124 1332 R N 0 2.1 1.7 0:00 mysqld
358 nobody 2 0 3108 3108 2160 S 0 1.5 2.5 0:10 httpd
2163 root 3 0 748 748 544 R 0 1.3 0.6 0:02 top
352 root 5 5 2124 2124 1332 S N 0 0.1 1.7 0:00 mysqld
317 nobody 0 0 2944 2944 2172 S 0 0.1 2.4 0:15 httpd
340 root 0 0 228 228 188 S 0 0.1 0.1 0:00 update
1 root 0 0 376 372 316 S 0 0.0 0.3 0:03 init
Ken
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From: "Peet Grobler" <peetgr at absa.co.za>
Subject: Re: kernel version number
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:49:36 +0200
Why would a vendor want to revise the kernel?
Duane Healing wrote in message ...
>That number is usually vendor specific and represents their revision of
>that kernel version. That's why the standard issue kernels don't have it.
>
>--
>-Duane
>
>In a feverish moment of semi-lucidity, "ulty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flailed at
>the keyboard thusly:
>> As far as kernel versions go, say we have:
>>
>> 2.2.12-20
>>
>> we have the major number, minor number, and patch level, what does the
>> -20 represent?
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From: Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Video conferencing
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:49:56 GMT
I am looking for some information for setting up Video conferencing using my
Linux system. What devices are required for such setup? I do have USB ports
available. I am confused about WebCams and NetCams. Is there a difference
between these devices? Will this be streaming video? What software is
available to do the conferencing?
Any pointers and information is appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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